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Benghazi and the Swing States: “In Real Time”

The national likely-voter polls continue to show a distinct advantage toward Mitt Romney, while the state polls of critical swing states, OH, VA, NH, show strength for POTUS.

What can explain this disconnect? I am told that the last week will see the independents decide the race in OHIO as they always do, choosing all the successful candidates in gubernatorial and presidential races over the last cycles. What can move the independents?

There is a suggestion in the approval and disapproval that there is more than the economy making an impression on the public.

Benghazi in Real Time.

The strange silence of the White House and POTUS on the Benghazi tragedy also looks to create conditions that can change the direction of the contest.

Voices of the uniforms and the retired military are getting louder (see below and ad in right column) about the events of September 11, 2012.

There are unconfirmed reports that gunships, special forces, warplanes, Navy elements, were in place and ready to launch on Benghazi during the gunfight and yet were restrained (see below)?

There are unconfirmed reportsthat a great number of situation rooms were able to watch the Benghazi gunfight in real time, because there were one or two surveillance drones over Benghazi? Eli Lake of Newsweek reports that there are video records from inside the residence and in the compound of the attackers and the siege. When do we see the video evidence of the assault teams?

AP reports that there were 150 attackers in military gear and riding in trucks labeled “Ansar al Shariah.” Where is the evidence of this? There are unconfirmed reports that SecDef Panetta has blocked the testimony to Congress by the four uniform commanders on station that day of the attack, why? There are unconfirmed reports that AFRICOM General Ham was suddenly relieved of duty that he began March 2011, because he refused to obey orders from the White House during the Benghazi crisis.

What we have so far is the statement by SecDef Panetta that the sitrep on September 11 was “too confusing” to act. We have no evidence of this confusion, nor do we have multiple voices from the dozens in the situation rooms for those hours whose job was to analyze the chaos. We do have timelines of the attack, but there is no confirmation of the reports that the second attack on the CIA “annex” was an ambush of the rescue forces as it arrived from the residence with the retreating survivors — and …

Without Ambassador Chris Stevens?



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Benghazi and the Swing States.

Will the Obama administration’s puzzling and suspicious response to the Benghazi questions change the decision-making by the independent voters in OH, VA, NH, CO in these last hours of the campaign?

Conventional wisdom argues that no one votes foreign policy. Conventional wisdom argues that the last, few undecided voters in America will vote for their pocketbooks.

The challenge to all this wisdom is the theme of trust. Can you trust Candidate Obama over and against trusting Candidate Romney?

The Benghazi mystery does present a problem of trust. Is it sufficient to change votes? Unknown. Is it sufficient to confirm an undecided voter in a direction away from the status quo ante? Unknown.

It is certainly strong enough to make the questions continue for the next SEVEN days. And make POTUS and VPOTUS avoid all unscripted interviews that are not about a storm named Sandy.

- From the blog for the John Batchelor Show, airing nightly on WABC.com (9:00 to 1:00 a.m. ET), where you can listen live or to its podcasts. (Click here to find the link to the Podcasts towards the top of the page, in the “header.”)

  • http://www.schoolanduniversity.com/ schoolanduniversity.com

    1 Colorado guy is all that will stand up for dying patriots. Blood on all your hands

  • MrLynn

    Pat Caddell on Howie Carr’s show (WRKO, Boston): “Who ordered the stand-down?”

    We need some reporters to start shouting that at Obama’s campaign events. Over and over.

    /Mr Lynn

  • beachnan

    I am hating this storm. I apologize to all on the east coast, but honestly, the coverage of this event has been so consuming, you would think it was the entire country facing this storm. I turned on Fox last night and this morning and it was like the world came to a stop. I am not saying that it wasn’t big, but I wonder if storms were battering the midwest would we have had the same coverage? It has halted this election and at the same time Romney’s momentum. Obama should be getting hit over the head for his handling of Benghazi and instead we get to see Christie complementing Obama on finally acting like a President. I am not saying that the East Coast doesn’t deserve our thoughts and our prayers, but we have an entire nation that needs saving and every minute of devotion to the storm coverage is a minute taken away from Obama’s miserable record. Sorry to all those on the East Coast–just a little bit frustrated on the West Coast.

    • wylrae

      A little OT, but in regards to both campaigns being shut down for two days (read that somewhere yesterday), I find it interesting that I read somewhere a little while ago that Pres. Clinton would be campaigning today in Colorado. Frankly, IMHO Pres. Clinton campaigning does more good for Obama than Obama does when he campaigns. Anyone else read anything like this today?

      • HObama HObamanana

        I think we should dispense with the notion that the Obama campaign shut down. Having Bill Clinton out there reminding people how thin skinned offended Obama is because of that mean ole Mr. Romney isn’t exactly calling a truce. In fact, many of the things Clinton has said completely politicize the storm and the response, something the Obama campaign claimed they weren’t going to do. But what do you expect from Democrats?

    • mgm

      I agree with you. And I live in the east. There’s no reason for this endless hour-upon-hour coverage of the storm, especially since most of it consists of repeating the same photos and stories over and over.

    • HObama HObamanana

      The getting hit over the head will resume again. Not to worry. This has been a terrible storm and lots of Americans were affected by it in the worst way. But I do agree with you that the nonstop repeat of the same photos and stories gets a little old. And, of course, if the media devoted even one quarter of the time and attention they’ve spent on this storm on Benghazi, then perhaps we might have an informed public capable of making rational decisions instead of all these sheeple.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

    John is right in questioning anything from the AP. (“AP reports that there were 150 attackers in military gear and riding in trucks labeled “Ansar al Shariah.” Where is the evidence of this?”)

    I followed the link to get to the AP site.

    “The past week, the AP has gathered accounts from five witnesses, including one of the embassy guards and several people living next door to the consulate compound who were present when the militants first moved in. Most spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals for talking about the attack.”

    No mention of speaking with our personnel on the ground; or reviewing the tape…

    • Justine00

      Good point, jbjd. Have we heard ANYthing from the Benghazi personnel that were rescued and survived? Where are they — the US or Libya?
      .

  • TeakWoodKite

    Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.

    Link
    That is just dandy. Hey Mark are you a coward too?

    • Penngirl

      I went to SOS’s FB page and “shared” the article that says FB censored Navy Seals. If everyone liked this and shared it on their FB page the word will get out –FB will probably delete it eventually, but it will be posted long enough for others to see. FB can kiss my ass!

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      Google censors its search. Not just in China. Here. In the U.S.A.

      • TeakWoodKite

        “SAFE SEARCH” Lol.

  • MG6

    Val Jarrett being scrutinizes by the Canadian free press…

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50684

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      CFP is neither Canadian nor free.

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        Didn’t cost me anything to read that link, eh.

    • FloridaFI

      Makes you wonder what Palantir Stone, Iranian born Jarret gazes into when she is alone at night. BTW, who elected this wormtongue?

      • HObama HObamanana

        I heard that when Obama is up having a late night snack she reads dog entrails. But that’s only a rumor, as far as I can tell.

  • HObama HObamanana

    This is a rather interesting turn of events. Facebook Censors Navy SEALS to Protect Obama on Benghazi-Gate

    We created and posted this meme on Saturday after news broke that Obama had known and denied SEALS the backup they requested.

    Once the meme was up it garnered 30,000 shares, approx. 24,000 likes, and was read by hundreds of thousands of people — all within 24 hrs. On Sunday, I went into the SOS Facebook page to post something else and found a warning from Facebook that we had violated Facebook’s Statement of Rights and Responsibilities with our meme. So I copied the warning, put it on the meme as as caption, and re-posted the meme to the Facebook page.

    ~SNIP~

    Ward said Facebook pulled the re-posted meme down within 7 or 8 hours and suspended the SOS account for 24 hours.

    In other words, Facebook put the Navy SEALS in timeout in order to shield Obama.

  • MG6

    People! This 13 yr old girl’s project on Obama and Romney is amazing.

    http://hillbuzz.org/13-year-old-jenny-gives-obama-and-romney-report-cards-must-see-video-33211#more-46742

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      I don’t know who paid for this ad but, I find it terribly misleading.

      The girl ostensibly compares/contrasts the records of both President Obama and Governor Romney, and gives them grades. Romney gets A’s; Obama gets D’s. But under the heading, “Health Care,” while she disses Obamacare – she correctly calls it a “tax” – she fails to examine Romney’s record on the subject, as Governor of Massachusetts.

      In fact; Gov. Romney signed into law universal health care. But I have found that, many people who don’t know better assume that his objection to Obamacare stems from the fact, he objects to universal health care, in principle. The record shows, he does not. He just wants the states to ‘do it,’ instead of the federal government.

      Either the people putting out this ‘ad’ don’t know the facts; or, for some reason, they are intentionally concealing them.

      • wylrae

        Surely an ad could not be misleading! Couldn’t open the link above so have not seen the ad, but it is more than likely more truthful than most of the Obama ads I have seen on TV. Frankly if you want truthfulness in ads, I think a super PAC should put out an ad using Obama’s statement to a group at the Red Cross today (paraphrasing) “When Americans are in need we leave no one behind.” Of course to be truthful the super PAC ad should conclude with: “except when you are an American needing help in Benghazi!” Now that would be truthfulness.

      • shelldoll2

        She’s a child. She’s entitled to her opinion. She’s also an American citizen.
        I know, I know. We The People are not entitled to our opinion, facts be damned under the Constitution. No one gets everything correct including we adults.

        But the measure of a society is how you treat your young and old.

        I’d give us solid D

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    If it was “too confusing to act” “the fog of war” “not enough real time information” “Too much risk”,
    Then why goose step for weeks to the drum of “it was the video”? Why the Rose Garden, UN, View, Letterman and Pakistani TV ads “Blame the Video” tour?

    Rhetorical of course. We know the answer.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      Had OFA been more Transparent in the Rose Garden he could be trouncing Romney now.
      But, if Obama had an ounce of transparency the economy and the state of the Union would not be up the Creek.

      He would be what people call a Leader.
      But, he’s not.

  • HObama HObamanana

    I’m not sure what country you are in but in mine we vote in 7 days, not 9.

    The answer to most of the questions posed here is: It depends on whether or not more shoes drop in the next few days. I am certain that there are people that have information the Administration is hiding from us for political expedience. And I am certain those that have this information would like it to get out. Not because it would hurt Obama but because it would help our country. I do think we may need to wait another day or two before anything is revealed due to the physical disaster we are just now beginning to heal from. But a lot can happen in 7 days. A whole lot.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      John posted this a couple days ago. I will amend that. THANK YOU for proofreading! I was proofreading many things in his post, primarily how to make the font not so large, ahem. One of these days I hope to straighten that al out. I just need a book and some time. (Fixed … took a bit because I can’t search in the WordPress writing area — doesn’t work there. So I copied/tasted the text in TextEdit and searched for the word days. Voila. Thanks! I didn’t know if he wrote 9 or nine, so I used days first.)

      The next SEVEN days matter so much. I was angry with Chris Christie, practically endorsing Obama for a second term. He is a brilliant man but there is a big disconnect between his brain and his mouth. It was good to mention Obama, but he didn’t need to go on about it for 1.5-2 minutes. It was a 6-minute interview — Fox & Friends thanked him for being with them that long. I missed the first 3-4 minutes of it because I took MUTE off my TV (which I do so I can concentrate, think, imagine, etc. … that’s how I decided to put a link to the retired SpecialOps guys in the upper right corner, and I hope a lot of people are donating, whatever they can. Someone told me I shouldn’t donate, but it was a few dollars and it made me feel like I was helping.

      Also: Last night, I got a call from an especially nice young man — I think I commented about that too. I told him that I couldn’t donate and that he should call people with money, but i mentioned the blog and said i’d posted four images. I hope people watched them, especially the first one — “Momentum.” I teared up as I watched it, as I wrote about it, and then when I replied to DianaC’s lovely comment about the video. I pray he is running that ad 24/7.

      ‘nuf for the moment :)

      • BronwynsHarbor

        The Special Ops video is here too … and I added a link to Larry’s post about it, etc.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I didn’t think that what Christie said about Obama was endorsing him. He acknowledged that Obama had done what was asked of him which is what ANY President should be expected to do. It’s not as if Obama actually doing his elected job for a change is something that great. Besides, Christie needed help that only the federal government could supply. Sometimes you have to suck up for the sake of a state. Additionally, sometimes we have to drop our partisanship and act like Americans first. It doesn’t make Christie a turncoat or Obama a hero. None of this erases what Obama did (didn’t do) in Benghazi.

        • akaPatience

          HH, I agree about the need to suck up for the sake of NJ. It would be stupid to bite the hand that FEMAs.

  • FloridaFI

    What is becoming clear is that an 18-Delta Medic would have saved Steven’s life. Sean Smith was probably doomed to perish in the consulate compound fire. Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, who were killed during the evacuation, would/should still be alive. Three Flag officers of the US Military have thrown themselves on their swords in protest of their betrayal by their superiors.

    LJ, and the rest of you here at NQ, do not let up! What is happening right now is unprecedented in American History. Your posts and comments are very important to what will happen over the next six days.

    God, I’m glad this website exists!

    • TeakWoodKite

      Three? Ham, the CO of the Stennis group and who else?

      • FloridaFI

        Gen. Dunford, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corp.

        • FloridaFI

          Dunford nominated to position of Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps on 10-23-11. He was left on 10-18-12. This is normally the last step to being the Commandant of the Marine Corps. He was young, 57. He was in line for the top position. This is usually a two to three year posting.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Thanks. Missed that one. BO is a coward and these fine Officers are not.

            • FloridaFI

              What BO is goes way beyond cowardice. I may be wrong, but I believe the correct term would be, “Criminal Dereliction of Duty.” He, and only HE, could rescind a Standing Order.

            • FloridaFI

              TeakWoodKite,

              Just wanted you to know that I’m new to this. I’ve never participated in a blog before. Please excuse me if I fail to follow correct protocol. Hell, I’m not even sure that this message will get to you. There are a lot of methods that I do not understand concerning your posting of links and other information. Thx.

              • TeakWoodKite

                Say what’s on your mind. That is the protocol.
                For myself, I say welcome.Salutations. Your doing fine. :) You can open the DisQus.com Dashboard, log in under your account and follow all the comments and responses.

                • FloridaFI

                  Very kind. I’ll continue to try and contribute from time to time. If I err, it will only be through ignorance of the medium and not intention. I cannot tell you how important this site has been to opening a window on current events. You and yours are the best. As I am sure that Larry knows, there is a current “breath-hold” going on right now in our nation’s Military. Tell Larry to yell louder.

                  • TeakWoodKite

                    Back at ya.

    • BronwynsHarbor

      FloridaFl. I hope you are dry and high… off the ground, I mean. You can be high in other ways too, if you wish :)
      Dry or wet too :)

      Thanks! Larry is working on a major project at the moment. “Radio silence,” I call it. But I bet he’s checking the blog, and seeing who’s been naughty and nice. All I want on November 6 or 7 — and for Christmas too — is that Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan be elected.

      My ballot is in my purse. I need to drop it in the mail. But out of sight, out of mind. It’s easy … drive through the nice lanes, paid for by the USPO + taxpayers, and toss it in the mail box. It should arrive Thursday or Friday — mail always takes 2 days here, no matter where it’s sent to and from, because it is hauled about a 100 miles down a lot of two-lane mountain highways, gets sorted, and gets back up here for delivery. It’s actually amazing they can do it in two days. Or I can stop at City Hall, but I’ve never been there and don’t know where their drop box is.

      Hope to do one more post, and then take care of some phone calls, etc. I called DSHS to help a neighbor at @ 2:50 p.m. They are only taking calls 8:00-2:00 p.m. We tried yesterday but I got disconnected four times. Monday is always a bad day to call places like that … and with all the people needing assistance these days … but I thought to myself, “I bet that DSHS is feeling the pinch. Obamacare is coming, too many people truly need help (and a lot of bums who are addicts, whatever),” … so now they have put that staff on part-time — six-hour work day. And that saves them a lot of money.

      Later! Hugs! Be well.

    • NoQuarterUSA

      FF, I am sending you an e-mail. Please look for it. THANKS! (Hope I have the correct e-mail address. If not, please pop into disqus.com and change it. Thanks!

      • FloridaFI

        Got it. Honored to be responded to by both you and Teakwoodkite. This site is always a glass of cool water at the end of a difficult day. I’ve been a fan for four-five years.

    • Sally Vaci

      My head just exploded. Wait for it . . . . wait for it . . . .

      Who spoke these words today, without a hint of shame or irony:

      “we leave nobody behind”

      This is not a joke:
      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/30/Obama-Leave-No-One-Behind-Sandy

      • TeakWoodKite

        Twisted.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

        someone who commented on this site said that it doesn’t take long for Oblahblah’s arrogance to mess up a good crisis.

  • TeakWoodKite

    rescue Americans under fire.??? Obama???

    HEADLINE: Obama sacks the two SENIOR Officers who went all John Wayne on Obama’s ass attempting to save the lives of fellow Americans!
    I am no expert, just an ignorant kite. Common sense tells me they were refusing an illegal order from POTUS.