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		<title>By: Sometime-CIA-Defender</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/74/chickens-come-home-to-roost-on-cheney/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Sometime-CIA-Defender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYTimes reports that Libby got Plame&#039;s name from Cheney.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/politics/24cnd-leak.html?hp&amp;ex=1130212800&amp;en=db7d02c93e5913ef&amp;ei=5094&amp;partner=homepage&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/politics/24cnd-leak.html?hp&amp;ex=1130212800&amp;en=db7d02c93e5913ef&amp;ei=5094&amp;partner=homepage&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYTimes reports that Libby got Plame&#8217;s name from Cheney.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/politics/24cnd-leak.html?hp&amp;ex=1130212800&amp;en=db7d02c93e5913ef&amp;ei=5094&amp;partner=homepage" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/24/politics/24cnd-leak.html?hp&#038;ex=1130212800&#038;en=db7d02c93e5913ef&#038;ei=5094&#038;partner=homepage</a></p>
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		<title>By: beth Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/74/chickens-come-home-to-roost-on-cheney/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>beth Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting For The Valerie Plame Wilson Grand Jury (John Dean says indictments unlikely)
findlaw ^ &#124; Oct 21 05 &#124; John Dean

It is difficult to envision Patrick Fitzgerald prosecuting anyone, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, who believed they were acting for reasons of national security. While hindsight may find their judgment was wrong, and there is no question their tactics were very heavy-handed and dangerous, I am not certain that they were acting from other than what they believed to be reasons of national security. They were selling a war they felt needed to be undertaken.

In short, I cannot imagine any of them being indicted, unless they were acting for reasons other than national security. Because national security is such a gray area of the law, come next week, I can see this entire investigation coming to a remarkable anti-climax, as Fitzgerald closes down his Washington Office and returns to Chicago.

In short, I think the frenzy is about to end -- and it will not go any further. Unless, of course, these folks were foolish enough to give false statements, perjure themselves or suborn perjury, or commit obstruction of justice. If they were so stupid, Patrick Fitzgerald must stay and clean house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting For The Valerie Plame Wilson Grand Jury (John Dean says indictments unlikely)<br />
findlaw ^ | Oct 21 05 | John Dean</p>
<p>It is difficult to envision Patrick Fitzgerald prosecuting anyone, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, who believed they were acting for reasons of national security. While hindsight may find their judgment was wrong, and there is no question their tactics were very heavy-handed and dangerous, I am not certain that they were acting from other than what they believed to be reasons of national security. They were selling a war they felt needed to be undertaken.</p>
<p>In short, I cannot imagine any of them being indicted, unless they were acting for reasons other than national security. Because national security is such a gray area of the law, come next week, I can see this entire investigation coming to a remarkable anti-climax, as Fitzgerald closes down his Washington Office and returns to Chicago.</p>
<p>In short, I think the frenzy is about to end &#8212; and it will not go any further. Unless, of course, these folks were foolish enough to give false statements, perjure themselves or suborn perjury, or commit obstruction of justice. If they were so stupid, Patrick Fitzgerald must stay and clean house.</p>
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		<title>By: beth Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/74/chickens-come-home-to-roost-on-cheney/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>beth Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting For The Valerie Plame Wilson Grand Jury (John Dean says indictments unlikely)
findlaw ^ &#124; Oct 21 05 &#124; John Dean

It is difficult to envision Patrick Fitzgerald prosecuting anyone, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, who believed they were acting for reasons of national security. While hindsight may find their judgment was wrong, and there is no question their tactics were very heavy-handed and dangerous, I am not certain that they were acting from other than what they believed to be reasons of national security. They were selling a war they felt needed to be undertaken.

In short, I cannot imagine any of them being indicted, unless they were acting for reasons other than national security. Because national security is such a gray area of the law, come next week, I can see this entire investigation coming to a remarkable anti-climax, as Fitzgerald closes down his Washington Office and returns to Chicago.

In short, I think the frenzy is about to end -- and it will not go any further. Unless, of course, these folks were foolish enough to give false statements, perjure themselves or suborn perjury, or commit obstruction of justice. If they were so stupid, Patrick Fitzgerald must stay and clean house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting For The Valerie Plame Wilson Grand Jury (John Dean says indictments unlikely)<br />
findlaw ^ | Oct 21 05 | John Dean</p>
<p>It is difficult to envision Patrick Fitzgerald prosecuting anyone, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, who believed they were acting for reasons of national security. While hindsight may find their judgment was wrong, and there is no question their tactics were very heavy-handed and dangerous, I am not certain that they were acting from other than what they believed to be reasons of national security. They were selling a war they felt needed to be undertaken.</p>
<p>In short, I cannot imagine any of them being indicted, unless they were acting for reasons other than national security. Because national security is such a gray area of the law, come next week, I can see this entire investigation coming to a remarkable anti-climax, as Fitzgerald closes down his Washington Office and returns to Chicago.</p>
<p>In short, I think the frenzy is about to end &#8212; and it will not go any further. Unless, of course, these folks were foolish enough to give false statements, perjure themselves or suborn perjury, or commit obstruction of justice. If they were so stupid, Patrick Fitzgerald must stay and clean house.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/74/chickens-come-home-to-roost-on-cheney/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney did an end run on sanctions in business with Saddam and other lands facing restrictions/sanctions.

He also was close to Oil for Food, diverting it to Sauds who kept the Trans Arabain Pipeline flowing post peak. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/6/43844/47575&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/6/43844/47575&lt;/a&gt;

Halliburton provides nuclear well head penetrators and has several discrepencies in audits of them.

Halliburton provides subcontracor or subsidiary assistance to many nuclear proliferation fields and other countries not compliant with full IAEA standards.

The billing of military functions for Halliburton saw its shares double so outing Plame allowed the war to stay on a fast timetable.

Brewster Jennings was too close to ARAMCO for Cheney and Condi&#039;s liking. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/26/479/57368&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/26/479/57368&lt;/a&gt; Especially the Afghan pipeline trail that GH Venture Partners placed initial bids on in the 90s.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/31/2623/52967&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/31/2623/52967&lt;/a&gt;

Also the Jennings contacts were too close to South Africa where OPEC&#039;s focus was placed post peak, especially Venezuela. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/3/92340/19627(Colin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/3/92340/19627(Colin&lt;/a&gt; Powell was in South America on 9-11 meeting the deposed Afghan King and other OPEC/pan-arab sympathizers)

All told the motivation for outing:
1)Saud Peak Diversions
2)Oil for Food billing discrepencies
3)Saud Putsch in Northern/Central Africa
4)OPEC&#039;s South America expansion and attempted cessation of Venezuela
5)Trans Afghan pipeline/UNOCAL
6)Cheney&#039;s sanctions runs in Iran(and other countries)over oil
7)Sanctions runs with Iraq by Cheney&#039;s company over oil

8) Sanctions end runs involving nuclear materials for  well head penetrators, subcontractor work, preproduction material,         postproduction,            hazardous waste. 

Multiple Motives, multiple contacts in the press to overwhelm initial opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney did an end run on sanctions in business with Saddam and other lands facing restrictions/sanctions.</p>
<p>He also was close to Oil for Food, diverting it to Sauds who kept the Trans Arabain Pipeline flowing post peak. <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/6/43844/47575" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/6/43844/47575</a></p>
<p>Halliburton provides nuclear well head penetrators and has several discrepencies in audits of them.</p>
<p>Halliburton provides subcontracor or subsidiary assistance to many nuclear proliferation fields and other countries not compliant with full IAEA standards.</p>
<p>The billing of military functions for Halliburton saw its shares double so outing Plame allowed the war to stay on a fast timetable.</p>
<p>Brewster Jennings was too close to ARAMCO for Cheney and Condi&#8217;s liking. <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/26/479/57368" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/26/479/57368</a> Especially the Afghan pipeline trail that GH Venture Partners placed initial bids on in the 90s.  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/31/2623/52967" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/31/2623/52967</a></p>
<p>Also the Jennings contacts were too close to South Africa where OPEC&#8217;s focus was placed post peak, especially Venezuela. <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/3/92340/19627(Colin" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/3/92340/19627(Colin</a> Powell was in South America on 9-11 meeting the deposed Afghan King and other OPEC/pan-arab sympathizers)</p>
<p>All told the motivation for outing:<br />
1)Saud Peak Diversions<br />
2)Oil for Food billing discrepencies<br />
3)Saud Putsch in Northern/Central Africa<br />
4)OPEC&#8217;s South America expansion and attempted cessation of Venezuela<br />
5)Trans Afghan pipeline/UNOCAL<br />
6)Cheney&#8217;s sanctions runs in Iran(and other countries)over oil<br />
7)Sanctions runs with Iraq by Cheney&#8217;s company over oil<br />
 <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> Sanctions end runs involving nuclear materials for  well head penetrators, subcontractor work, preproduction material,         postproduction,            hazardous waste. </p>
<p>Multiple Motives, multiple contacts in the press to overwhelm initial opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: eRobin</title>
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		<dc:creator>eRobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But it is harder still to allow oneself any joy at the misfortune of others, when the focus needs to be placed on the huge damage already done to our country, its values, and its reputation.&quot;

Amen: &lt;a href=&quot;http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2005/10/stop_with_the_s.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2005/10/stop_with_the_s.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it is harder still to allow oneself any joy at the misfortune of others, when the focus needs to be placed on the huge damage already done to our country, its values, and its reputation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen: <a href="http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2005/10/stop_with_the_s.html" rel="nofollow">http://casadelogo.typepad.com/factesque/2005/10/stop_with_the_s.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney had multiple reasons to out Brewster. 

That Peter Jennings was allowed to travel with the African trip and be part of stories that had multiple overlapping talking points involving proliferation ,nuclear material, African politics, geopolitical trade, all led to Brewster&#039;s existance for anyone searching the stories out from the trip.

The White House should have vetted this better. Their attempt to give press passes in return for parroting war lies  included a name that would allow inquisitive minds(and paid watchers of other INTEL agencies) to connect the dots.

Why so?

Halliburton and Bechtel and other Cheney/Rumsfeld interests were big parts of the Oil for Food scandal(which Judith also provided cover for). The ability to earmark oil through the Trans-Arabain pipeline after short transfer from Iraq kept the wall street investors in the dark about true post peak numbers. Most likely you&#039;ll see a few corroborations on any google search satellite information for a visual archive of tankers in the region, something evidenced by the refusal to release naval logs that tracked the oil for food shipments which profited the Houston circle greatly.

Halliburton was big in the network of nuclear subcontractors and has subsidiaries helping to proliferate through third parties. Especially the nation of Israel and their allied interests of South Africa where Cheney has vested business dealings.

Aside from deceased Hussein Khamel&#039;s suspiscious testimony that was integrated into Ghorbanifar&#039;s burn list information the most likely sourcings would be from South Africa or Israel.

Israel is not on the list of transparent nations dealing with Nuclear materials, the most likely accomplice to North Korea.

South Africa has many strong ties to Israel and the Halliburton/Bechtel portfolios of Cheney/Rumsfeld. Look there most likely you&#039;ll find the match(if any) for logisitical information and forgery links.

Paging Mr. and Mrs. Ledeen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney had multiple reasons to out Brewster. </p>
<p>That Peter Jennings was allowed to travel with the African trip and be part of stories that had multiple overlapping talking points involving proliferation ,nuclear material, African politics, geopolitical trade, all led to Brewster&#8217;s existance for anyone searching the stories out from the trip.</p>
<p>The White House should have vetted this better. Their attempt to give press passes in return for parroting war lies  included a name that would allow inquisitive minds(and paid watchers of other INTEL agencies) to connect the dots.</p>
<p>Why so?</p>
<p>Halliburton and Bechtel and other Cheney/Rumsfeld interests were big parts of the Oil for Food scandal(which Judith also provided cover for). The ability to earmark oil through the Trans-Arabain pipeline after short transfer from Iraq kept the wall street investors in the dark about true post peak numbers. Most likely you&#8217;ll see a few corroborations on any google search satellite information for a visual archive of tankers in the region, something evidenced by the refusal to release naval logs that tracked the oil for food shipments which profited the Houston circle greatly.</p>
<p>Halliburton was big in the network of nuclear subcontractors and has subsidiaries helping to proliferate through third parties. Especially the nation of Israel and their allied interests of South Africa where Cheney has vested business dealings.</p>
<p>Aside from deceased Hussein Khamel&#8217;s suspiscious testimony that was integrated into Ghorbanifar&#8217;s burn list information the most likely sourcings would be from South Africa or Israel.</p>
<p>Israel is not on the list of transparent nations dealing with Nuclear materials, the most likely accomplice to North Korea.</p>
<p>South Africa has many strong ties to Israel and the Halliburton/Bechtel portfolios of Cheney/Rumsfeld. Look there most likely you&#8217;ll find the match(if any) for logisitical information and forgery links.</p>
<p>Paging Mr. and Mrs. Ledeen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah D. Wail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah D. Wail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Ray McGoven put it:

&gt; &gt; The investigation has long since morphed into size “extra-large,” which is the only size
&gt; &gt; commensurate with the wrongdoing uncovered—not least, the fabrication and peddling
&gt; &gt; of intelligence to “justify” a war of aggression.

And as Mr. Murder pointed out:

&gt; &gt; They&#039;ve been knee deep in the quagmire for quite some time. The ILF/INC &#039;overlapse&#039; of
&gt; &gt; Ledeen/Ghorbanifar contacts must be brought into the light of Justice.

And that IS the real  &quot;worm in the oinment&quot; ....

Published today 10-20-05:

From James Moore -

James Moore is an Emmy-winning former television news correspondent and the co-author of the bestselling, &quot;Bush&#039;s Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.&quot; He has been writing and reporting from Texas for the past 25 years on the rise of Rove and Bush and has traveled extensively on every presidential campaign since 1976. He is currently writing a book on the long term consequences for America of Bush and Rove policies, which will be published next year.

: : The Most Important Criminal Case in American History

: : [snippet]
: :
: : Fitzgerald has reportedly asked for a copy of the Italian government’s investigation
: : into the break-in of the Niger embassy in Rome and the source of the forged documents.
: : The blatantly fake papers, which purported to show that Saddam Hussein had cut a deal
: : to get yellowcake uranium from Niger, turned up after a December 2001 meeting in
: : Rome involving neo-con Michael Ledeen, Larry Franklin, Harold Rhodes, and Niccolo
: : Pollari, the head of Italy’s intelligence agency SISMI, and Antonio Martino, the Italian
: : defense minister.
: :
: : Is Fitzgerald is examining the possibility that Ledeen was executing a plan to help his
: : friend Karl Rove build a case for invading Iraq? Ledeen has long ties to Italian intelligence
: : agency operatives and has spanned the globe to bring the world the constant variety of
: : what he calls “creative destruction” to build democracies. He makes the other neo-cons
: : appear passive. He brought the Reagan administration together with the Iranian arms dealer
: : who dragged the country through Iran-Contra and shares with his close friend Karl Rove a
: : personal obsession with Machiavelli. Ledeen, who is almost rabidly anti-Arab, famously
: : told the Washington Post that Karl Rove told him, “Any time you have a good idea, tell me.”
: :
: : The federal grand jury has to at least consider whether Ledeen called Rove with an idea to
: : use his contacts with the Italian CIA to hatch a plan to create the rationale for war. Ledeen
: : told radio interviewer Ian Masters and his producer Louis Vandenberg, “I have absolutely
: : no connection to the Niger documents, have never even seen them. I did not work on them,
: : never handled them, know virtually nothing about them, don&#039;t think I ever wrote or said
: : anything about the subject.” It is strictly coincidence then that some months after he and
: : his neo-con consorts and Italian intelligence officers met in Rome that the Niger embassy
: : was illegally entered and nothing was stolen other than letterhead and seals. And equally
: : coincident that forged papers under those letterheads were slipped to Elisabetta Burba, a
: : writer for an Italian glossy owned by Silvio Berlusconi, Italy’s prime minister, and a backer
: : of the Bush invasion scheme. Unfortunately for the pro-war neo-cons, even an Italian
: : tabloid would not publish the fake documents and turned them over to the CIA and US
: : government in Rome.
: :
: : (the entire article may be found at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/9d9jf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/9d9jf&lt;/a&gt; )

Who&#039;s elephant is that standing in the corner of the room?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Ray McGoven put it:</p>
<p>&gt; &gt; The investigation has long since morphed into size “extra-large,” which is the only size<br />
&gt; &gt; commensurate with the wrongdoing uncovered—not least, the fabrication and peddling<br />
&gt; &gt; of intelligence to “justify” a war of aggression.</p>
<p>And as Mr. Murder pointed out:</p>
<p>&gt; &gt; They&#8217;ve been knee deep in the quagmire for quite some time. The ILF/INC &#8216;overlapse&#8217; of<br />
&gt; &gt; Ledeen/Ghorbanifar contacts must be brought into the light of Justice.</p>
<p>And that IS the real  &#8220;worm in the oinment&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>Published today 10-20-05:</p>
<p>From James Moore -</p>
<p>James Moore is an Emmy-winning former television news correspondent and the co-author of the bestselling, &#8220;Bush&#8217;s Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.&#8221; He has been writing and reporting from Texas for the past 25 years on the rise of Rove and Bush and has traveled extensively on every presidential campaign since 1976. He is currently writing a book on the long term consequences for America of Bush and Rove policies, which will be published next year.</p>
<p>: : The Most Important Criminal Case in American History</p>
<p>: : [snippet]<br />
: :<br />
: : Fitzgerald has reportedly asked for a copy of the Italian government’s investigation<br />
: : into the break-in of the Niger embassy in Rome and the source of the forged documents.<br />
: : The blatantly fake papers, which purported to show that Saddam Hussein had cut a deal<br />
: : to get yellowcake uranium from Niger, turned up after a December 2001 meeting in<br />
: : Rome involving neo-con Michael Ledeen, Larry Franklin, Harold Rhodes, and Niccolo<br />
: : Pollari, the head of Italy’s intelligence agency SISMI, and Antonio Martino, the Italian<br />
: : defense minister.<br />
: :<br />
: : Is Fitzgerald is examining the possibility that Ledeen was executing a plan to help his<br />
: : friend Karl Rove build a case for invading Iraq? Ledeen has long ties to Italian intelligence<br />
: : agency operatives and has spanned the globe to bring the world the constant variety of<br />
: : what he calls “creative destruction” to build democracies. He makes the other neo-cons<br />
: : appear passive. He brought the Reagan administration together with the Iranian arms dealer<br />
: : who dragged the country through Iran-Contra and shares with his close friend Karl Rove a<br />
: : personal obsession with Machiavelli. Ledeen, who is almost rabidly anti-Arab, famously<br />
: : told the Washington Post that Karl Rove told him, “Any time you have a good idea, tell me.”<br />
: :<br />
: : The federal grand jury has to at least consider whether Ledeen called Rove with an idea to<br />
: : use his contacts with the Italian CIA to hatch a plan to create the rationale for war. Ledeen<br />
: : told radio interviewer Ian Masters and his producer Louis Vandenberg, “I have absolutely<br />
: : no connection to the Niger documents, have never even seen them. I did not work on them,<br />
: : never handled them, know virtually nothing about them, don&#8217;t think I ever wrote or said<br />
: : anything about the subject.” It is strictly coincidence then that some months after he and<br />
: : his neo-con consorts and Italian intelligence officers met in Rome that the Niger embassy<br />
: : was illegally entered and nothing was stolen other than letterhead and seals. And equally<br />
: : coincident that forged papers under those letterheads were slipped to Elisabetta Burba, a<br />
: : writer for an Italian glossy owned by Silvio Berlusconi, Italy’s prime minister, and a backer<br />
: : of the Bush invasion scheme. Unfortunately for the pro-war neo-cons, even an Italian<br />
: : tabloid would not publish the fake documents and turned them over to the CIA and US<br />
: : government in Rome.<br />
: :<br />
: : (the entire article may be found at: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/9d9jf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/9d9jf</a> )</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s elephant is that standing in the corner of the room?</p>
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		<title>By: J i O</title>
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		<dc:creator>J i O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,

Reading your commentary, it&#039;s easy to see there&#039;s a deep animus existing between the V.P. &amp; CIA. Serious, long term animus.

Which side, DI or DO, do you think feels most aggrieved? 

Knowing you probably can&#039;t answer, do you have a counterpart in the DO we never hear from? How would you conjecture this person(s) has been contributing to CIA&#039;s struggle with the V.P. now and in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Reading your commentary, it&#8217;s easy to see there&#8217;s a deep animus existing between the V.P. &amp; CIA. Serious, long term animus.</p>
<p>Which side, DI or DO, do you think feels most aggrieved? </p>
<p>Knowing you probably can&#8217;t answer, do you have a counterpart in the DO we never hear from? How would you conjecture this person(s) has been contributing to CIA&#8217;s struggle with the V.P. now and in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One wonders who gained what by outing Brewster Jennings &amp; Associates. One wonders why Novak had to do two articles, the first outing Plame and then after a short delay a second specifically outing Brewster Jennings.
One wonders if the flow of information was from Judith Miller not to Judith Miller.
One wonders if Mrs. Wilson has been deposed.  One wonders if Ms Miller knew of the work of Brewster Jennings &amp; Assoc. through Ms. Miller&#039;s foreign associates and/or through her association with Laurie Mylroie.
One wonders why all the emphasis was on the IIPA instead of the Espionage acts 18 USC 793 and 794.
One wonders how many other NOCs and foreign assets were burned or turned by the outing of Brewster Jennings &amp; Assoc.
One wonders if Judith Miller is actually an agent in place ( a NOC if you will or agent of influence ) of a foreign power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wonders who gained what by outing Brewster Jennings &amp; Associates. One wonders why Novak had to do two articles, the first outing Plame and then after a short delay a second specifically outing Brewster Jennings.<br />
One wonders if the flow of information was from Judith Miller not to Judith Miller.<br />
One wonders if Mrs. Wilson has been deposed.  One wonders if Ms Miller knew of the work of Brewster Jennings &amp; Assoc. through Ms. Miller&#8217;s foreign associates and/or through her association with Laurie Mylroie.<br />
One wonders why all the emphasis was on the IIPA instead of the Espionage acts 18 USC 793 and 794.<br />
One wonders how many other NOCs and foreign assets were burned or turned by the outing of Brewster Jennings &amp; Assoc.<br />
One wonders if Judith Miller is actually an agent in place ( a NOC if you will or agent of influence ) of a foreign power.</p>
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		<title>By: Manndibles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manndibles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the unsurprising revelations that Cheney&#039;s office had been conducting a concerted, team-effort to discredit and slander the Wilsons, I also wonder what exactly will come of the unprecedented case of espionage discovered, against a fmr. Marine who had been retrieving information from the said office, for the Filipino opposition in the police force.


They seem to be under fire on all fronts, of which many of these scandals are of major proportions.
Nothing less than the 22 indictments should satisfy us. This second term is going to be a long, painful one for Mr. Bush.

Insha&#039;alla. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the unsurprising revelations that Cheney&#8217;s office had been conducting a concerted, team-effort to discredit and slander the Wilsons, I also wonder what exactly will come of the unprecedented case of espionage discovered, against a fmr. Marine who had been retrieving information from the said office, for the Filipino opposition in the police force.</p>
<p>They seem to be under fire on all fronts, of which many of these scandals are of major proportions.<br />
Nothing less than the 22 indictments should satisfy us. This second term is going to be a long, painful one for Mr. Bush.</p>
<p>Insha&#8217;alla. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: What Do I Know?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Do I Know?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Outsourcing Your Reading Pleasure&lt;/strong&gt;

Cutting corners, but never quality, here at WDIK: Natalie at Philobiblon has compiled the Carnival of Feminists inaugural post. (These blog carnivals are popping up all over the place. For those of you not aware, they&#039;re compilations of posts on
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Outsourcing Your Reading Pleasure</strong></p>
<p>Cutting corners, but never quality, here at WDIK: Natalie at Philobiblon has compiled the Carnival of Feminists inaugural post. (These blog carnivals are popping up all over the place. For those of you not aware, they&#8217;re compilations of posts on</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzales overheard other matters dealing with this previously, some of their renderings helped make this happen, one in Italy, to be exact. He should have to recuse self entirely just as Ashcroft had, his dealings with Gitmo proceedings alone can be considered a countenance of prejudice towards this action, it isn&#039;t just about Plame and Bush its broader context would involve review of potential fixed testimony in the form of torture...

A cleric was kidnapped and rendered with extreme prejudice. This to the point Italy put warrants out to distance self from backlash within the Muslim community of mid-south Europe. Or for Italian ambitions overseas in developing Muslim lands.

People on payroll are listed in warrants. Clearly NATO members, coalition members, UN members, wish to put space between Bush&#039;s abuse of human rights and their policies. Ashcroft already bungled one sure fire conviction of a terrorist linked to Atta&#039;s 9-11 cell in Germany as one example of our failure to work with EU and UN/NATO countries against terror.

The collateral damage effects everyone but Bush in real time terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzales overheard other matters dealing with this previously, some of their renderings helped make this happen, one in Italy, to be exact. He should have to recuse self entirely just as Ashcroft had, his dealings with Gitmo proceedings alone can be considered a countenance of prejudice towards this action, it isn&#8217;t just about Plame and Bush its broader context would involve review of potential fixed testimony in the form of torture&#8230;</p>
<p>A cleric was kidnapped and rendered with extreme prejudice. This to the point Italy put warrants out to distance self from backlash within the Muslim community of mid-south Europe. Or for Italian ambitions overseas in developing Muslim lands.</p>
<p>People on payroll are listed in warrants. Clearly NATO members, coalition members, UN members, wish to put space between Bush&#8217;s abuse of human rights and their policies. Ashcroft already bungled one sure fire conviction of a terrorist linked to Atta&#8217;s 9-11 cell in Germany as one example of our failure to work with EU and UN/NATO countries against terror.</p>
<p>The collateral damage effects everyone but Bush in real time terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roberts is the new Bork.

Anyways the Star Chamber could perhaps rule on the matter of an ongoing trial?

Obstruction and conflict of interest should prevent Bush from being able to issue the pardons.

Who exactly could Cheney insert, since he was Ford&#039;s chief of Staff and Gerald R.Ford&#039;s recent birthday party guest list was also subject to Subpoenae and has been held in what constitutes contempt under a claim of Executive Privilege?

They&#039;re a bunch of C.R.E.E.P.s in sheep&#039;s clothing...
By the way anyone else see the Iranian Liberation Front lately? The Paris-based group, a part of Iran/Contra and the October Surprise...

 
They&#039;ve been knee deep in the quagmire for quite some time. The ILF/INC &#039;overlapse&#039; of Ledeen/Ghorbanifar contacts must be brought into the light of Justice.

As for a noble cause... Let&#039;s instead consider a Nobel cause... eu tu, Judith? Clearly the loophole of giving her clearance was a clever way to set up a patsy.

But someone above her cleared material to Judy above and beyond the call. Senior Staffers take accountability. Including Senator Santorum&#039;s Staffer, Mrs.Ledeen, and each Executive Cabinet position. Of course someone&#039;s Goss should be cooked at the CIA. Hadley and Libby&#039;s immediate bosses as well.

Condi&#039;s NSA and Cheney&#039;s Veep office. They&#039;ve had paws on the interior, the oil industry, the war lobby, and now foreign affairs with Condi at State and Liz Cheney in Mid East affairs for the same.

Somewhere beneath the avalanche of RICO warrants is the next snowflake baby of the neocon empire war...

One day soon, thanks to technology upgrades, our kids can fight for war of oil in Venezuela and other South American lands where OPEC has expanded, post peak. This after the media creates false scandals like they used on the Clintons before helping usher in AWOL and bring integrity back to government. Perhaps another terror attack&#039;s warning go unheeded, or better yet false warning made and acted upon like in Oilraq.

 Diebold will be ready for that day...

In the meantime, will AWOL be able to sit in Cheney&#039;s lap again? 

&quot;Who could have imagined?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberts is the new Bork.</p>
<p>Anyways the Star Chamber could perhaps rule on the matter of an ongoing trial?</p>
<p>Obstruction and conflict of interest should prevent Bush from being able to issue the pardons.</p>
<p>Who exactly could Cheney insert, since he was Ford&#8217;s chief of Staff and Gerald R.Ford&#8217;s recent birthday party guest list was also subject to Subpoenae and has been held in what constitutes contempt under a claim of Executive Privilege?</p>
<p>They&#8217;re a bunch of C.R.E.E.P.s in sheep&#8217;s clothing&#8230;<br />
By the way anyone else see the Iranian Liberation Front lately? The Paris-based group, a part of Iran/Contra and the October Surprise&#8230;</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been knee deep in the quagmire for quite some time. The ILF/INC &#8216;overlapse&#8217; of Ledeen/Ghorbanifar contacts must be brought into the light of Justice.</p>
<p>As for a noble cause&#8230; Let&#8217;s instead consider a Nobel cause&#8230; eu tu, Judith? Clearly the loophole of giving her clearance was a clever way to set up a patsy.</p>
<p>But someone above her cleared material to Judy above and beyond the call. Senior Staffers take accountability. Including Senator Santorum&#8217;s Staffer, Mrs.Ledeen, and each Executive Cabinet position. Of course someone&#8217;s Goss should be cooked at the CIA. Hadley and Libby&#8217;s immediate bosses as well.</p>
<p>Condi&#8217;s NSA and Cheney&#8217;s Veep office. They&#8217;ve had paws on the interior, the oil industry, the war lobby, and now foreign affairs with Condi at State and Liz Cheney in Mid East affairs for the same.</p>
<p>Somewhere beneath the avalanche of RICO warrants is the next snowflake baby of the neocon empire war&#8230;</p>
<p>One day soon, thanks to technology upgrades, our kids can fight for war of oil in Venezuela and other South American lands where OPEC has expanded, post peak. This after the media creates false scandals like they used on the Clintons before helping usher in AWOL and bring integrity back to government. Perhaps another terror attack&#8217;s warning go unheeded, or better yet false warning made and acted upon like in Oilraq.</p>
<p> Diebold will be ready for that day&#8230;</p>
<p>In the meantime, will AWOL be able to sit in Cheney&#8217;s lap again? </p>
<p>&#8220;Who could have imagined?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I was afraid of - that Bush&#039;s crony Gonzales fires Fitzgerald.   

Would there be a loud enough outcry?

Surely they can&#039;t make this all just disappear?  Because they have the majority in the House, Senate, Executive and Judicial branches?

What a scandal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I was afraid of &#8211; that Bush&#8217;s crony Gonzales fires Fitzgerald.   </p>
<p>Would there be a loud enough outcry?</p>
<p>Surely they can&#8217;t make this all just disappear?  Because they have the majority in the House, Senate, Executive and Judicial branches?</p>
<p>What a scandal!</p>
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		<title>By: Toby Tobiason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby Tobiason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know that Robert Bork was the person that ended up firing Aribald Cox. Robert Bork, the mythic right wing hero? He made his bones defending Nixon? Unbelievable. You couldn&#039;t write novels with these sorts of plot lines; they just wouldn&#039;t be believable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know that Robert Bork was the person that ended up firing Aribald Cox. Robert Bork, the mythic right wing hero? He made his bones defending Nixon? Unbelievable. You couldn&#8217;t write novels with these sorts of plot lines; they just wouldn&#8217;t be believable.</p>
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