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Obama’s Benghazi Fail Ain’t Going Away

By Larry Johnson on October 30, 2012 at 10:22 PM in Current Affairs

Barack Obama turns out to be a hell of a comedian. He went on TV today vowing to, “leave no one behind” to face the menace of Sandy the Hurricane. Wasn’t that special. But when it came to Americans under terrorist attack in Benghazi on September 11, Barack left them on their own and took off to Las Vegas to raise funds for his fading Presidential campaign.

Since I last wrote I have learned some new things and want to update you.

First, what about the possibility that Iran was behind the hit? While Iran clearly had the motive and means to do this, there is another explanation. Another former CIA colleague contacted me and offered up an alternative explanation that pins the blame fully on Ansar Al Sharia. My friend was an accomplished ops officer and is very knowledgeable when it comes to Libya.

According to my friend, while the circumstantial evidence can be used to build a case that the CIA was arming jihadists, he insisted that the CIA base in Benghazi was focused on trying to help the Libyan Government get the upper hand on the Eastern tribes and jihadists. This includes trying to weaken Ansar Al Sharia. My friend is not some CIA puppet nor is he an Obama supporter. After hearing him out, I think he makes a plausible case that Ansar Al Sharia carried out the dual attacks without guidance or assistance from Iran.

So what about Turkey’s Ambassador showing up in Benghazi? Well, Turkey also has a stake in trying to promote a more mainstream Islamic solution in Libya and is working with the United States on this matter.

If journalists (Fox excepted) were interested in doing their job, they would be pressing the Turks to explain what their man was doing in Benghazi.

My point about why State did the minimal in security at Benghazi was dead on. Yes, Ambassador Stevens felt it important to have a U.S. presence in Benghazi, but since the focus of our activity revolved around the CIA mission the Department of State did not want to spend money there that it could divert to other areas where State was in charge. This is typical, normal bureaucratic bullshit that makes the U.S. Government so damn dysfunctional.

The response issue is where David Petraeus and Barack Obama are facing more trouble. There was a drone that eventually got to the scene. Unfortunately, that drone had no offensive capability. It provided real time video of the situation on the ground and gave the CIA personnel at the “Annex” the ability to see what was going on around their perimeter.

Embassy Tripoli did succeed in sending additional “security” personnel to reinforce the CIA Annex. But the force did not have the weapons sufficient to keep the attacking Ansar force at bay.

Here is the point where both Petraeus and Obama failed. The folks at Annex requested additional support. Because the only assets that could respond were under the control of U.S. Africom, Petraeus passed the buck. So his spokesperson is technically correct–the CIA did not refuse to deploy forces (although the CIA did order its personnel not to go to the aid of Ambassador Stevens). That decision was passed to DOD and the White House.

Obama, with the support of Panetta, turned down the request. An AC130 gunship could have been on station within an hour of an order from Washington. It apparently stayed on the ground. An Africom Speical Ops force also was within reach. They could have been on the ground within two hours.

Here is where Panetta is lying. He claimed, “we did not have sufficient intel” to allow an informed decision to put troops on the ground. That is complete horseshit. With a drone overhead providing live video, coupled with voice communication, including secure teleconferencing, the “Commanders” in Washington had more information then would have been available ten years ago. They could see with their own eyes what was going on.

A knowledgeable friend told me that this is going to get worse for Obama. It was a shameful failure of leadership. Obama left our people behind to fend for themselves and two died because of his dereliction.

  • Dave L.

    I think this is going to be the millstone around his neck that finally drowns this lying bastard !!

    • wylrae

      But the question is will he drown before Nov. 6th? If not, sort of doubt if he will drown. You know our wonderful media will help keep him afloat by not reporting anything that will hurt him and if he should win re-election with it sounding like the Senate will still be in Democratic hands I doubt anything in the area of impeachment, etc. would be likely.

      • stodghie

        i don’t think the senate will remain in democrat hands.

        • wylrae

          Sure hope you are correct.

        • foxyladi14

          me either

      • getfitnow

        Well, even after he leaves office, he’ll have to live with blood on his hands. I’ve heard that LBJ was haunted by his Viet Nam war decisions and really was broken after leaving office.

        On the other hand, this POTUS doesn’t seem to have a caring bone in his hollow body.

    • randrand run

      GREASED HILARY’S CAREER!

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    Whatever the circumstances were. Once our Seals were under attack, why were they not helped? It seems to me, someone, either Barry or Panetta said no to helping our people. If Barry says, he did everything to help our people, and Panetta disregarded this order, then Panetta is at fault. Or Barry himself lied and actually said no help for our people, so there was no order/directive for the military to follow.

    Both Barry Soetero and Panetta cannot be right.

    Saying “I said to do everything to help” and not actually giving an order to do so are 2 different things. I imagine such orders are written down or something, there has to be a paper trail or something, right?? Or if they were told to stand down, there has to be a paper trail for that too, I would think?

    I just cannot get over the fact, 2 of our bravest pleading for help and no one came, help was there, but no one came, because Barry said no. No one came to help our guys. 3 times they kept asking for help and were told no.

    I just find that gut wrenching. May the truth come out for the sake of our bravest who gave their lives.

    • Justine00

      When Obummer said to do everything to help, and it comes out that he did nothing to help the SEALS, he’ll parse the answer to mean that after they died he said to do everything to help. [Traitor/murderer!]

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        That’s an interesting question. Let me answer it with a question. Historically, when the White House couldn’t use the CIA or DoD for a covert action because it wanted to forego Congressional notification and oversight, who handled it? Think back to Iran Contra.

        • FloridaFI

          However, POTUS as CIC is a member of the Military. In this capacity, is the POTUS subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice?

          • HObama HObamanana

            Specifically speaking, the POTUS is a civilian that commands the military. So he would not be subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

          • Retired_from_SPOnaj

            Practically speaking, no. Even if he weren’t a civilian, every court martial must be convened under the authority of the commander with appropriate jurisdiction (for an example of this, see the murder trial of Major Nidal Hassan). In Mr. Obama’s case, this would require him to convene a court martial on himself, as there is no commander with jurisdiction over him.

            • FloridaFI

              10-4. I spoke with a JAG friend of mine today and he said the same thing and added that POTUS has the power to make the rules under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

              I just thought that rather than impeachment, there might be a backdoor through the UCMJ. What Obama has committed should be prosecuted. Win or lose next Tuesday, he should stand trial.

              Thank you and HH for the info.

        • Daniele Dubroca

          He wasn’t much of a “lawyer.” Never wrote any opinions–how did he get to be “editor” when he never wrote a damn thing on record? Go figure. Anyway, I wouldn’t bank on his being sure to come up with “legally” defensible angles on his actions. He’s never really needed to so far, as he’s been so protected by MSM. It’ll depend on howlong that protection lasts.

    • TeakWoodKite

      “so there was no order/directive for the military to follow.”
      There are standing orders. It my understanding that only the POTUS can countermand them. (but I am an ignorant kite and have been known to be wrong)
      Obama is the asshole who said let them die. It got back to him real quick and that is why BO said he doesn’t leave anyone behind. Utter bullshit. Dericlication of duty and criminally negligent homicide can be spun.

      • Popsmoke

        The GOs have no honor. AfricaCom should have moved the moment word hit the street..

  • HARP2

    Just an observation.
    When Cindy Sheehan lost her son, the media made her a celebrity.
    Mr. Woods………never heard of him !!

  • mgm

    This story is not getting out. It’s like the tree-falling-in-the-forest conundrum–when the tree falls does it make a sound if there is no one in the forest to hear it? For the majority of Americans, Benghazi was only a minor past event because newspapers and network television are not carrying it. Obama’s grip on the news media is keeping them quiet at least until the election is over. In the last thread it was posted that even Facebook is censoring the special ops veterans’ video. Is it possible to get that video to FOX?

  • Sally Vaci

    Welcome home Larry. I note that you mention Africom several times but you do not mention General Ham, leading me to suspect there is a story behind Ham’s sudden departure. Also wondering why you specified “two died” because of Obama’s dereliction, instead of four.

    I’m quite relieved that Iran wasn’t the perpetrator. That seems to me a small silver lining in this whole godawful mess.

    Did you appear on John Batchelor tonight?

  • Justine00

    So, excuse my ignorance, but is it unusual for an ambassador to work hand-in-hand with the CIA? Wouldn’t that confound diplomatic efforts, if the other side figured CIA was involved?
    .

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      That’s an interesting question. Let me answer it with a question. Historically, when the White House couldn’t use the CIA or DoD for a covert action because it wanted to forego Congressional notification and oversight, who handled it? Think back to Iran Contra.

    • nickoury

      Please pardon the question, but do you live under a rock? Almost every embassy in every country, no matter what nation it represents, is basically considered a spook center. It’s never overtly broadcast but silently understood.

      Do you remember the US Embassy that was being built in Moscow after the fall of the USSR? A virtual top of the line high tech listening post for it’s time.

      All embassy personnel are involved either periferally or directly and are potentially at risk. Does Iran 1979 ring a bell?

      The job has it’s perks, but there exists a great deal of intrigue and danger in countries that are not so friendly. Diplomacy, tact, deception, intelligence gathering, shelter and safety are all balanced in the embassy facade. Some nations can recall people when things get to hot, but sometimes that can’t be done.

      In this case help was available but never sent, just six-plus hours of video, reports, updates, aide requests and, I would venture guess lots of popcorn, snacks and booze. Throw in some weed as well, CHOOMBA, CHOOMBA, and yo be in da hood.

      The administration stood by, doing nothing except planning their own cover for a disaster that they could have provided at least the appearance of lending assistance to those in desperate need of support.

      It’s great to know who they really care about, themselves or the citizens for whom they only have platitudes to offer.

  • seattlegonz

    I heard a radio story saying that the operative who was painting the target had to believe that there was someone in the sky available to take out the target. That the act of painting the target is what made him vulnerable to being killed…it gave away his position.

    Larry could you comment on that. Could it be possible that we had an armed plane or drone in the sky that simply didn’t fire?

    • http://twitter.com/skymominmass SkymomInMass

      One other thing that came to mind. When “Clueless Joe” Biden made the crass comment to Ty Woods dad that included the “cue balls” reference, why would he say something like this, unless he was aware that Ty had gone to help those under attack and was trying to paint the target for help that never came. If he wasn’t aware of the specific circumstances, is there any reason he’d make this point? (It’s a given that SEALs are made of the sternest stuff, so it seemed to be a specific reference to what happened.)

      • KenoshaMarge

        Hard to tell why a vulgar creature like Joe Biden says anything. He just spews. Some where in the back of his pointy little head there may have been some connection to some information he had heard.

  • HObama HObamanana

    It’s interesting that you mention Turkey’s attempts to promote a more mainstream Islamic “solution” in Libya. Their efforts at promoting a “mainstream” solution within their own country isn’t going over very well.

    While many praise the diminished power of the military, critics say these struggles have also laid bare the deficiencies of Turkey’s democracy, pointing in particular to the Islamist-leaning government’s crackdown on dissent and the press — there are more journalists in jail here than anywhere else in the world. That has given rise to a chorus of frustration that was on vivid display in the streets Monday as Turkey celebrated its birthday.

    In Ankara, the capital, thousands of secularist protesters clashed with the riot police after they went ahead with a rally to celebrate Republic Day, the holiday marking Turkey’s founding as a republic in 1923, that had been banned by the government of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, vaguely citing intelligence reports that the gathering could become violent.

    It’s probably worth noting that the founder of Turkey (and it’s namesake), Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, was a staunch secularist. He believed strongly in the separation of church and state.

    And just how did our NATO “ally” Turkey behave when a known militant showed up at a Turkish airport with bogus documentation right after the September 11, 2012 attacks in Benghazi? Were we notified? Not exactly.

    A Tunisian man arrested in connection with the deadly attack Sept. 11 on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was identified by the internal surveillance video recorded during the attack, senior U.S. intelligence officials told Fox News.

    Ali Ani al Harzi and one other suspect were detained at an airport in Turkey in the days after the attack while travelling with false documents, and Harzi now has been identified as being present at the attack using the images obtained from the consulate compound video, Fox News’ sources say.

    So the Administration talking point promulgated by Bob Beckel on The Five that all they could see was burning buildings and shadows appears to be ripped to shreds.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Bob Beckel is a lying POS. I now DVR The Five so that when he, or Juan Williams speak I can zip past their bullshit.

      Seeing Beckel makes me happier every day that I am no longer a Democrat. If he’s one, I sure as hell do not want to be.

      That this hate-filled pustule would try to excuse the Obama Administration for this epic failure tells you all you want to know about his integrity and character. As in he has none!

      • Woody

        You are fortunate to have DVR capability so you don’t have to watch those two boobs. Beckel is who he is, a miserably unhappy man with hemorrhoids. But Juan is exhibiting behavior he obviously learned since his enrollment in the Joe Biden Academy of Charm. If you thought Juan was annoying before, boy howdy you should see him now. When he’s not rolling his eyes and smirking like a snotty teenage girl, he grins wildly at inappropriate times, interrupts, shouts, and is generally argumentative, rude and obnoxious. Just like Joe. Soon as Juan’s face appears on my TV screen, I grab the remote.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Even when not on DVR I can go from zero to mute in .04 seconds.

          I agree with every word you said, am still chuckling and wish I had said it first.

          I have often wished hemorrhoids on lefty loons I dislike. Perhaps my wish came true?

          Joe Biden Academy of Charm? That explains a lot.

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        Beckel just tried to dismiss the “Newt rumor” about a stand down order coming from the National Security Advisor’s office as “making no sense whatsoever.” Actually, for those who have been in this millieu, an order from the National Security Advisor in this type of situation makes perfect sense. Who does Beckel think was giving the orders for Iran Contra? Similar situation, this,

        • Popsmoke

          Ollie….

        • KenoshaMarge

          Beckel, like most bloviating assholes never lets his ignorance get in the way of his mouth. Nor does he let honesty interfere with his bloviating.

          Also thought his remarks about a “pagan” Holiday were odd.

          Besides I thought he was too busy stuffing his face with Halloween candy to say much of anything. If gluttony were brains he be the smartest person on the set.

  • KenoshaMarge

    The epic failure of the MSM to cover the story of Benghazi should be repulsive to every decent American citizen. That so many chose a political party and a politician over the truth about the murder of Americans tells me more than I wanted to know about the people of this country and what they have become.

    The media, and most citizens, were silent and uninterested when the parents demanded, and are still demanding, the truth about what happened to their son be forthcoming. That the so-called Department of Justice, which is all actually just a political arm of whatever party holds the White House, stonewalls, obfuscates and downright lies, shows me what will happen to Tyrone Woods father’s demands for the truth.

    The truth doesn’t reside in our media. Political agenda’s, political bias, bullshit and lies are what the media has become as far as the eye can see.

    We regard in amazement the few reporters who actually report and near wet ourselves when a liberal reporter tells a truth that doesn’t pander to Obama.

    What we have become is frightening. When brave men and women risk, and lose, their lives they deserve so much more. The truth at the very least.
    We know we can seldom get the truth from a pol. From the media we should, and must, demand it!

  • KenoshaMarge

    Uh-oh, one member of the MSM seems to think the American people are owed some answers. Are we now all supposed to swoon when one damn reporter actually sorta does his job? I am underwhelmed!

    Clarity Needed on Benghazi

    By
    David Ignatius – October 31, 2012

    link:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/10/31/clarity_needed_on_benghazi_115986.html

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      KM, I have found more and more articles linked on RCP which are now calling for answers on Benghazi. And these articles usually include reference to FOX’s lone coverage of the issues!

      • KenoshaMarge

        Every crack in the Media Firewall around Obama is helpful.

    • HObama HObamanana

      The only real reporting he does in this story is contained in the headline. Otherwise, he presents observations that have not otherwise been released, with no actual attributions. Observations that contradict what was reported by FOX.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Ignatius is a member of the MSM and as such probably a member in good standing of JournoList. As such he helps to cover Obama’s useless ass.

        My point was he asked a question in the Washington Post. It ain’t much but it’s a start. Not excited by this but will take what we can get.
        Is it enough? No. Is it a start? Your guess is as good as mine. My gut feeling is that some of the media are starting to see that their ignoring of this story may further harm their all ready teeny weeny credibility.

        They may drag their feet until after the election but I feel that sooner or later they will have to report. That they will try to delay it until after an Obama win is more than likely their plan. And even then we all know that it won’t be his fault because nothing ever it.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Senator Graham made some interesting points on Greta last night and said that he had very good connections in Tunisia and had already made some calls. He finds it just the least bit suspicious that we are not being given access to this person they have identified as being a part of the attack. I expect that he will be following up and making some news very soon. Gingrich also mentioned that someone had informed him that a few media outlets are in possession of emails confirming calls for assistance that were turned down. And he suggests that this information will likely see the light of day soon.

          Maybe you are right about Ignatius. But my own instincts are that he is acting as a mouthpiece for the meme the Administration wishes to set in motion before the election so that it “appears” as if they are coming clean, being transparent and honest with the American public.

          Yes, I am a cynic. But I am also a realist that has watched as this O dude and his Administration and allies have lied to the American people about any and everything that wasn’t beneficial to their cause. I don’t expect that just before an election they suddenly had a change of heart or moral conversion.

          • KenoshaMarge

            I don’t think they had a change of heart or suddenly had a moral conversion that dictates that they act like “real” reporters instead of press agents. I suspect it’s simply self-protection for when it all hits the fan. And I believe it will. In time. In time for the election? I don’t think so.

          • Popsmoke

            Graham is one of the Marx Brothers….

    • TeakWoodKite

      Mr. Ignatius is a questionable mouthpiece for Obama.

  • Popsmoke

    Unless the rest of the MSM picks up on this story and starts to ask the RIGHT questions it will go unfortunately no where. Fox being the only outlet reporting on this will do just more damage to a very serious incident.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      You are so wrong. Fox, for once, is doing the right thing.

      • Popsmoke

        Yeah I know Larry I am always wrong. What the hell do I know about how Fox handles its news? There is a difference between the reporters (EXCEPT Camron) and the rest of the bafoons in that outlet and its those bafoons who screw up and make matters worse. Besides there is a split in both the military and IC community on how and what was possible with any CIF or Mike Force operation and I note Pat Lang and his folk and their comments.
        No matter the truth is being lost to politics and holding ANY and A L L who had authority to take action will also get lost as well as taking any corrective action with the policy that caused this event.
        But what the hell do I know?

  • HARP2

    How convenient that the bad guys attacked AFTER the Turkish fella safely leaves the grounds.

    What luck for him…….

    • HObama HObamanana

      Yep, a real coinkidink!

    • http://www.facebook.com/margaret.maree Margaret Maree

      yes, some luck. And a very good point I read (somewhere, perhaps here, though I’ve read so much I can’t recall) was that the Turkish Ambassador would have had to have hit a roadblock upon his departure.

  • arabella_trefoil

    Obama went off to Las Vegas? No surprise there.

    “Show biz kids makin’ movies of themselves, you know they don’t give a fuck about anybody else.
    D. Fagen 1973

    That’s what the world’s come to. Thought, conscience, criticism, art, protest: those are so quaint. Dissent and individualism are the old codger stereotype for the aging Boomers. The Greatest Generation had “get off my lawn.” We have Steely Dan.

    I’m tired and need sleep. I thank God for No Quarter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9QVNbUPzgM
    (skip the intro commercial)

    • HObama HObamanana

      Great music selection. Thanks!

      • arabella_trefoil

        Thanks! Next to Frank Zappa, Steely Dan is my fave. Here’s another one I like, but it’s obscure. From that wonderful year 1969:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3tzxKoxrM

        It has bad words in it. Larry might ban me now because this goes WAR beyond my offense of posting the lyrics of “Whitey on the Moon.”

        • HObama HObamanana

          You would more likely get banned for posting some of FZ’s lyrics. I’m a big fan of the master as well. I watched him do a cover of Whipping Post yesterday and loved it.

  • HoosierinDixie

    Larry thank you and your friends for the efforts to keep this story alive. Judging by the way Obama was spiking the Osama football, it stands to reason that he would of sent help if for nothing else than to put another feather in his cap. Remember this is an administration that operates on the idea “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” I am not trying to diminish the deaths of those four Americans in any way, but I can’t help think there is something far more sinister at play here than we already know or can even imagine. I believe your knowledgeable friend is absolutely right that this will get much worse for Obama. Please keep pushing for the truth.

    • mergeright

      Far more sinister indeed. This much political risk would never be taken unless the appearance of a cover up was the least of their worries.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Very well put.

      • HoosierinDixie

        Yes, that is exactly my point.

  • fb274

    My theory back on Sept 12, was that obama had hatched a plan with the “so-call jihadist friends” to facilitate a kidnapping of Stevens and others to stage a replay of Carter’s Iran hostage situation–except this time he would get Stevens released for the Blind Sheik, Marsi even called for his release. This could be the reason the security teams were pulled out prior to 9-11. With the guards not being armed at the ‘consulate/CIA’ location kidnappers could easily cover the storage which housed the weapons from those in the barracks, holding them at bay and making off with Stevens and others. IMO someone got more aggressive and started a fire fight
    Remember, all roads leading to this ‘consulate’ were block to eliminate more transportation to the location. Someone needs to interview Marsai to see what he knows.

    The above could be the reasoning for no activity to help when all H.e.l.l. broke loose.
    Why did Petraeus tell the Committee on the Hill 2 weeks after the incident he was of the firm opinion the video cause the protest? Sounds like story was hatched in the situation room and they all stuck with the story for as long as they could.

    • lela

      I am just a housewife, so don’t bank on what I say, BUT wasn’t there criticism of Obama during the period leading up to the Benghazi incident that Obama hadn’t taken his intelligence briefings in about 2 weeks because he was too busy campaigning? It stuck in my mind as peculiar because I have never heard it broadcast that any president wasn’t taking those briefings. At the time I asked myself what is with this. It just seemed odd.

      • fb274

        I read that as well.  Supposedly instead of personal briefings he was having them sent to his IPAD  (and can’t those IPADs be hacked).  He supposedly started personal briefings when it was announced Romney was due to receive daily briefings.

  • binky354
    • binky354

      The photo of the ribbon didn’t come through. Sorry.

  • MrLynn

    All it would take to force the MSM to trumpet this abject failure of Presidential leadership would be for a very high member of the Administration to blow the whistle. Petraeus? His credibility is heading down the toilet with every day this scandal festers. /Mr Lynn

    • elijahzabmom

      This is going nowhere until someone gets on the record and shows their face.

  • Hokma

    Despite the fact that only FoxNews has reported on this seems to be having an affect – possibly because 60% of Americans do not trust the MSM.

    I still find your original scenario more plausible but in the end it is still Obama failing in his oath of office and leaving men behind to die

  • john anthony

    He left upto 25 people in harms way if you count the 22 people that the seals rescued. If the seals had not disobeyed orders there would have been a massacre or a hostage taking.
    This needs to get out, the press is not doing its job apart from Fox.

  • randrandrun

    I AM THE ONE SECURITY AGENT WHO GOT TO ENACT THE “MAKE MY DAY” CLINT EASTWOOD SCENARIO IN THE LINE OF DUTY-EXACTLY–AND DIDN’T HAVE TO “SPLATTER THE MATTER”..AND FROM WHERE I STAND ON THIS SITUATION—”SOMEONE FORGOT THE GUNS AT A GUNFIGHT”!!!!

    • FloridaFI

      First of all, stop yelling. Second of all, fix your sentence structure and your grammar. Third of all, nothing you say makes any sense. Fourth of all, this site has been reserved for adults. Please return to your local PBS affiliate, coddle up to Big Bird and pray that Obama wins.

  • getfitnow

    I picked this comment up elsewhere. No link. Anybody know abut this?

    *****************************

    Breaking: From Bret Baier’s Special Report…Cable sent to Hilary’s office
    from August saying there was an ‘emergency meeting’ about concern about
    Al Qaeda training camps nearby and possibility of attack and how poorly
    they were prepared for one in Benghazi.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Oops!

    • HObama HObamanana

      I’m a little surprised we don’t have a full post up about this yet.

  • elijahzabmom

    As a young civilian I want to ask what may be a stupid question. How much of a constitutional crisis would it have been if the military had simply defied the supposed order Obama gave to stand down? I know Obama is the CIC and our founders set up the country this way deliberately. We don’t want to be ruled by a monarchy or a military dictatorship. I imagine it had to be difficult to HEAR the cries for help, have the ability to help, and offer no aid or assistance.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Those with military experience would be the proper ones to answer it in specificity. I’m a civilian too and my understanding of the law would indicate that any officer that ignored a direct order from the C-I-C would be subject to Article 92 of the UCMJ and a court martial. I assume that any soldier that ignored such orders would be subject to this as well.

      • elijahzabmom

        True but I wonder if they should have risked a court martial in order to help those in danger. When the American people found out the truth we would have supported them. Especially when I hear there might have been an armed drone. I know I am being too flippant with this, defying the CIC is serious.

        • HObama HObamanana

          As a citizen I feel exactly as you do. Obama holds the title of C-I-C. He actually is everything but.

  • Bill O’Reilly

    Only one who cares about this bullshit and faux scandal is Larry Johnson. You tried to make this a big story for month now and you have gotten no where. This tragedy simple does not rise to the level of the President. Full stop.

    • HObama HObamanana

      This tragedy simple does not rise to the level of the President.

      With this one sentence you have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that you are a fucking idiot. I don’t suppose you are aware of something called our Constitution. As an American citizen I feel I have an obligation to remind you what it says about stuff like this.

      We have a President. He is the Commander in Chief. That means he is the top General of all Generals. He sets foreign policy. That’s his job. He commands our military. That’s his job. And when shit goes wrong he accepts responsibility. That’s his job too.

      Now I don’t know what socialist or communist or anarchist government they have where you live, but here in the good ole USA we have a government based upon a Constitution that is very specific as to who holds what position and what their responsibilities are. Maybe in la-la land where you reside rules and the law don’t matter. Here they do. So with all due respect: Fuck Off Obot!

  • randrand run

    I TOTALLY agree with myself!