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Barack Obama isn’t a socialist. He only plays one to get liberals’ votes. A real bleeding-heart socialist knows food stamps won’t help without a home in which to cook and refrigerate food. This hard-working lady has been waiting 37 years. Obama, Pelosi and Reid could’ve added housing to food stamp legislation, but didn’t fight to keep Section 8 housing going.

Barack’s a capitalist whore to his pimps on Wall Street, as John Markman’s MarketWatch op-ed proves: “The stock market loves President Barack Obama. With all its cheating heart, and all its mercenary soul.”

More than that, actually — it adores him. The love story of Wall Street and Obama is a bromance like no other, a man-crush for the ages.

Despite his threats to soak the wealthy for more taxes, despite Fed Chairman’s attack on savers, despite even his threat to kill special treatment for dividends, institutional investors have thrown themselves at Obama’s feet as they have not done in the first term of any president in the past century. …

The S&P 500 has gained 76% since his inauguration in January 2009, while the Nasdaq 100 is up 128%. Compare that to the S&P 500’s 13% decline and the Nasdaq 100’s 45% wipeout in the first term of his predecessor, George W. Bush. [...]

The administration and the Federal Reserve run by his appointed chairman, Ben Bernanke, have systematically stuffed big banks’ pockets with cash in an unending rescue effort [which Mitt said he would end], slashed interest rates to the lowest levels of the past 300 years, diverted senior citizens’ savings to revive the moribund residential construction industry and showered drug makers and insurers with fresh sources of revenue from his health care overhaul.

[Wall Street] in the past two months has thrown a tantrum to protest the surprising advancement of challenger Mitt Romney in the polls.

Little wonder then that Wall Street cannot bear the idea of parting ways with the Obama administration, and thus in the past two months has thrown a tantrum to protest the surprising advancement of challenger Mitt Romney in the polls. …

If you’re interested, the rest of the op-ed advises you on how to invest your money.

One of my favorite Tweets Tuesday night:

Rubio is correct:

Yes, Rubio IS correct:

Hmmm …

LOTS of Tweets re Obama’s comments about global warming:

Another class act:

And another:

The fellow below has a point. Well, people tend to want to get what they can while it’s still around. I sure feel that way about health care. I’ve seen firsthand what being controlled by Medicare has done to a county hospital and clinic. MANY doctors resisted mightily. Including a fine general surgeon who did an amazing job on my appendectomy. One of the very few decent doctors locally. He was so angry about U.S. medicine… he’d even checked into Canada, he told me, and said he’d make more money up there. Now I fear that the best clinics will also be faced with having to sign up with Medicare in order to make it financially. So I want to hurry and get care while I can. THAT is why seniors voted for Obama. Yes, they should think of future generations. But, experience has taught them that they HAVE to look out for themselves too.

Even if we disagree with her, this is good:

Those are but a few of hundreds our blog received today. I wish I could read more Tweets. It is a great way to communicate quickly.

It’s a new day. We will be alright. Perhaps we here can figure out how to do better next time.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/da.ace1 Fabian Da Ace Sheppard

    WE should total up all The People over 100 yrs old that voted and count the number of the already dead that were counted as the living voting and start the process of Prosecuting the Guilty of voter fraud and Crimes worse than Grave robing!

  • Woody
    • http://www.facebook.com/mary.cusack Mary Cusack

      Well, if it was stolen, he had a lotta help and therefore a lotta favors to pay back. We know what happened to kennedy when he let his little brother the attorney general go after one of those owners of his I O U’s. Barry better be a good little boy.

  • MG6
  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

    Well, Wall Street is capable of the insanity that caused the meltdown. I chalk this all up to Lehman Bros, Team Obama’s MVP and largest in-kind contributor even from the grave. Lehman Bros, the gift that keeps on giving to Obama. The meltdown is all Obama ever had. For bringing down the U.S.A., I hope Lehman Bros and Bear Stearns spend eternity standing in for Osama Bin Laden’s 40 virgins in hell.

    We’ll die from debt now. My fear is the future American Putin, the fury that will rise from the ashes of a fallen superpower. China wins for now, but China should tread very carefully.

    • jrterrier

      i wonder how long they’ll be able to publish false unemployment #s before even their minions will reject the lies.

      • win43

        LOL… now the unemployment numbers are fake, too? Mercy me, what CAN we believe anymore??

        Washington DC doesn’t even exist! The Rose Garden is just a soundstage in Beijing! SERIOUSLY THIS GOES REALLY DEEP YOU GUYS

        • MG6

          Where are the jobs? Full times are going to P/T because of obamacare. Business are not hiring but doubling down.
          Watch the unemployment

        • jrterrier

          did you pass the bar exam or was that just bull? you were certain that Obamacare was constitutional under the commerce clause so you must have failed that question.

  • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

    First of all, I am sure this election was stolen. We all saw how Obama stole the nomination from Hillary, this is his MO. And ACORN, I’m told, is still active in Ohio and has a new name… I can’t remember but a Republican party member told me last night.

    I have so many Obamabots friends on Facebook who are still so clueless about what’s coming. While I am flinching at the destruction that will be occurring to America now…this is probably the only way they are ever going to wake up. Tough medicine. It sucks.

    • skinny_malinky

      Show one single piece of evidence that the election was stolen. This is the reaction of immature people: my candidate lost, so the other guy must have cheated. Accept the fact that what you wanted didn’t happen and start moving on. Don’t make baseless accusations just because you were wrong.

      • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan
        • skinny_malinky

          Six anecdotal reports by people who don’t know how to use touchscreens isn’t evidence.

          Look, if the Democrats were trying to steal the election, I’d be up in arms. But there is *nothing* to support that. If this is the best you can come up with, then you have nothing to support your paranoia.

          But there was a lot of evidence of attempts at voter suppression by Republicans. Oh wait, that doesn’t matter to you, does it?

          • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

            “Look, if the Democrats were trying to steal the election, I’d be up in arms. ” No, you wouldn’t be. You are just here to troll and argue with us. Come back to us four years from now after Obama is done destroying the country and we’ll see how smug you are then.

      • jrterrier

        why are you on here? are you new to this blog or are you one of the retreads under a new name? have you been commissioned to re-educate us? you disagree with everything anyone of us posts.

        my eyes saw huge turnout in republican areas; the politicians on the ground in OH, who just won their own races thought we would win.

        in WI republicans retook control of the entire state legislature yet R/R lost. how could that happen?http://mediatrackers.org/2012/11/06/federal-job-corps-vans-used-to-bus-voters-in-wisconsin/

  • MissMalevolent

    Well, that was a disappointment. But for me there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

    Obama is going to destroy the Democrat Party in the same way Bush Jr. has effectively destroyed the Republican Party…through overreach.

    Obama and his minions (if this messageboard is any indicator) view this election as a MANDATE (and trust the MSM will be pushing this narrative) JUST like Bush and his ilk viewed 2004 as a mandate. And what happened? The GOP was crushed in 2008 and has yet to fully recover 2012 if they ever do.

    Obama will do the same thing, he and his party have hated the Clintons ever since he ran for the Democrat nomination. He’s tolerated them so he can trot them out from time to time for those skittish Clintonites that still follow Bill’s words of leadership.

    However, as I’ve always said, the man is a narcissist. And egomaniac…and no egomaniac who has been given a second term, is going to care that only 50% of the electorate voted for him. He is going to take this ball and run with it and “spend this political capital” he’s got…much in the way Bush Jr. did in 2004.

    I’ve waited 22 years for a rise of a viable third-party candidate…and I know that Obama and his fanatics are going to run the Democrat party into the ground which will leave people as disillusioned with them, as conservatives were with Republicans.And in that…the rise of third parties can finally begin.

    And they know the formula for success. Don’t be specific, cause “politics are boring”, run the late night circuit. Do daytime talk and talk about fluff. And be the guy that celebs want to hang with. And when 2016 rolls around…blame Obama for everything.

    • skinny_malinky

      ” [H]e and his party have hated the Clintons ever since he ran for the Democrat nomination”

      Hilary Clinton works closely with your president every day. Bill Clinton campaigned very hard for Obama. But yeah, everyone hates the Clintons.

      Where do people come up with this nonsense?

      • wylrae

        Be assured that Bill Clinton had alterior motives in campaigning for 0zer0; it certainly wasn’t for the good of the country.

        • skinny_malinky

          Please, explain to me what his ulterior (yeah, it’s ulterior, not alterior. Alterior isn’t a word) motives are. You apparently have access to secret information. Why don’t you share?

      • MissMalevolent

        Obama uses the Clintons to hold onto the whites who have deluded themselves that Hillary is going to have a shot at the Presidency in 2016. I say they’ve hated the Clintons because his campaign called the Clintons racist when it was convenient to do so. I have forgotten that.

  • vinnie winkel

    Yes, the new normal of high debt, media laziness, corruption and high unemployment. Everyone says the economy was the #1 issue but decided to give the American Idol another shot at “creating” jobs. Hey, maybe this time he’ll actually hold meetings as opposed to hitting the links and basketball courts. The 50.1% want the gov’t to keep on giving out freebies. Why work, let’s all queue up for a hand out.

    • jrterrier

      no, no, no. this time he is going to ask Romney what Romney would have done, then ask Valerie to do it and then go off to the links.

  • jrterrier

    “Who re-elected Barack Obama? Who stepped into the booths around the country and pulled the lever for the incumbent, giving him the margin of victory many had predicted Gov. Romney would receive?

    We can’t say for sure because three out of the four most prominent swing states — OH, PA, and FL — did not require voters to show a photo ID to vote. (The fourth most prominent, which did require photo ID, was VA.)

    Think about it: In America, where the most powerful man in the world is elected every four years, you can walk into a polling place and cast a vote without truly identifying yourself. Sure, you have to give them a name, but you don’t have to give a photo ID to substantiate it.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/07/U-N-Election-Observers-Why-Don-t-These-People-Have-To-Show-ID-to-Vote?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    • HObama HObamanana

      I am all for E Verify and would like to see it instituted all over the country. Not just for working, but for elections. When we have national elections we need to have national laws that protect those votes.

  • buzzlatte3

    The fix is in. Obama is still a lousy president and we’re still fighting for integrity and honor. Apparently four years wasn’t long enough to get ALL the corruption exposed.

  • jrterrier

    “tonight you voted for action not just politics as usual” and the crowd roared. are they all zombies? did they not just live throught the ugliest campaign this country has ever seen?

  • TexMexSoup

    We all have our own ways of rationalizing what just happened. However one common ground we all share here is, we are awake to what Obama is doing to this country, the rest of the idiots, not so much. I’m in the I told you so mode right now, and not because I am rubbing salt on the wound, I am saying what I am because we are simply fulfilling prophecy.

    You can laugh, roll your eyes, spit on the bible or believe in it. I am not a bible thumper in any way. I read Psalms at the most. But something told me 4 years ago, something was just not right with the election of Obama and I simply began to look further into it. Obama is the “last king of the south” and the “leopard” from the book of Daniel, I won’t go further into it. You can always use the google or look up thirdeaglebooks on youtube, he explains it best. We are in for some royal punishment folks…… be prepared. God Bless to the ones who get it, the others burn in hell as you deserve.

    • HARP2

      AP didn’t do exit polls in 19 states, 15 of which are conservative.

      • Mencius

        If you leave near DC, can you recommend a good hotel I can book for Romney`s inauguration ?

  • tushdi

    Things just don’t add up. With such a high turn out in Gop areas, why don’t the vote count reflect this? In any case, it looks like Romney won’t look into the discrepancies as he thinks that would only divide the Nation further. With Obama’s Chicago machine now in full power looks like the US will go the way of Greece only the fall over the fiscal cliff will be a 1000 times worse and except for the rich elite on Wall Street & Hollywood we will all be in the poor house.

  • HObama HObamanana

    The difference between the people who won the election and the people that lost the election is evident within this thread.

    Those of us that lost are staying amongst ourselves, generally behaving and for the most part being civil. Those that won are being complete asses, acting like juvenile delinquents with no class whatsoever, calling people like us haters when all they do is demonstrate hate.

    These facts alone are reason enough for me not to give up. I refuse to allow the world and country I love to become overrun by a bunch of uncouth, immoral and classless lunatics.

    • skinny_malinky

      You’re going to pat yourself on the back for your civility? Two days ago I posed a respectful question and you responded to me with insults and general asshole-ishness. Now you’ve gotten your ass kicked. You should be humble. Don’t act like you’re one who always takes the high road. Take your beating like a grownup, not a mewling little kid.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I didn’t get my ass kicked. That’s the problem with idiots like you. I am not part of the machine. And you are just an uncouth little punk.

        I don’t remember your inane (or was that insane?) question but I am quite certain that it wasn’t asked respectfully. And me be humbled by you or Obama? ROFLMAO!

        I promise, I’ll try to be as respectful as I possibly can as I tell you, with all due respect: Fuck Off Obot!

        • skinny_malinky

          Here was my question: “I guess the other post I’d commented on got deleted, so I’ll ask the same question here: what will your reaction be if Romney loses? Will you give up on politics in frustration? Will you be even more resolute to stop Obama? Will you assume there was cheating?”

          Please tell me, what was disrespectful about that?

        • skinny_malinky

          And you can curse at me and insult me and say whatever you like. I know your words are the empty, desperate bloviations of a small, sad, irrelevant person. Go ahead, rage all you want. Call me names. I’m sure you think the term “Obot” is very clever. Good for you.

          Today I’m basking in the fact that my country made the right choice. My country will get stronger. And you’ll be rooting against that, all because you want to see your president fail. That’s right, he’s your president too. And you’ll work yourself into a frothing rage, sputtering and lashing out at anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you. What a great life you must have.

          • HObama HObamanana

            Apparently your brain is as skinny as your malinky if you think I am rooting against my country. Far from it. I also don’t apologize for it or a single one of our freedoms. So fuck off Obot. Oh, and did I tell you to fuck off?

            • skinny_malinky

              You’ll be rooting for your president to fail. That means you’ll be rooting against your country. And is “fuck off” the best you can come up with? I like how you constantly use that phrase and yet accuse others of being uncouth and uncivil. I’d explain to you why it’s ironic if I thought you could comprehend irony.

              • HObama HObamanana

                Fuck Off is shorthand for all kinds of shit I could say to an asshole like you if I felt like wasting any more of my time. If you would prefer sign language I can think of an appropriate gesture.

                • skinny_malinky

                  Man, if you had a decent vocabulary maybe you wouldn’t have to resort to spewing the same words over and over again. Oh well, I guess you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.

              • MG6

                He has already failed in his first term. He continues blame bush even when he is moving into the second term. Anyway! He isn’t the president it’s Val Jarrett. Obama is just the window dressing.
                Lets talk Socialism. First you jack up the gasoline (he said this) to about $6 and subsequently the food prices raise. Now you have government in control of the food and gasoline. Take over Education. Youth is the use idiots as Stalin pointed it out.

  • foxyladi14

    for all my friends that are grieving with me this morning.

    God grant me the
    serenity

    to accept the things I cannot change;

    courage to change the things I can;

    and wisdom to know the difference.

    Living one day
    at a time;

    Enjoying one moment at a time;

    Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;

    Taking, as He did, this sinful world

    as it is, not as I would have it;

    Trusting that He will make all things right

    if I surrender to His Will;

    That I may be reasonably happy in this life

    and supremely happy with Him

    Forever in the next.

    Amen.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Yep. We need to chill out and find the strength to regroup and fight another day.

  • http://twitter.com/geffbeck jbeck

    Four states – FOUR – passed marriage equality friendly legislation! What a victory after the crushing disappointment of Prop 8 in California four years ago. One big loser last noght – Ayn Rand!

    • tushdi

      No the losers are the America people who voted for more power and money going to D.C., Wall Street, and Obama’s corporate cronies

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Ayn Rand wouldn’t be against gay marriage…she was a radical libertarian if anything.

  • http://twitter.com/geffbeck jbeck

    Mitt Romney just learned that money can buy you a lot of things, but not everything.

    • jrterrier

      you are correct. obviously, no amount of money could buy civility & intelligence for someone like you.

      Thankfully for Romne, he has everything that money cannot buy — love, family, integrity, and a life-time of achievement and compassion. What do you have to show for your life?

      • Sharon Long

        Thank you jrterrier. You hit the nail on the head. I was so looking for a president with morals, knowledge and compassion and Mitt Romney was it. My thanks go out to both Mitt and Paul for their efforts and love of this country that I love so much. You know that something is wrong when your 11 and 13 year old grandkids moan when they heard who won the election. I also have to agree that something smells about the Ohio votes. It just doesn’t add up. Well, we just have to go forward and work hard to overcome what surely is heading our way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ted.atkinson Ted Atkinson

    Way to class it up. Such sweet, delicious schadenfreude. Where’s that tape, Larry?

  • Bill O’Reilly

    blah, blah, blah…. like a broken record as usual from Bronwyn. Enjoy the day.

    • randi

      Hope you moved your money somewhere safe.
      Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) -DJI
      12,940.82 DOWN 304.86 (2.30%) 12:17PM EST

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Wall Street bet wrong against Obama and now he does not owe them a thing. A it is absolutely a fantastic thing that Elizabeth Warren got elected despite all the millions that flowed to the male-model Brown. Warren is Wall Streets worst nightmare. It is about time we have a strong senator that will fight against the excesses of Wall Street and for the middle class. Way better than electing a Wall Street guy named Romney.

        Three things effected the stock market today; 1) comments out of Europe, 2) a drop in Apple stock and 3) some sectors of the stock market got hit because of the election (coal companies, HMOs, etc.). So tomorrow or the next day when the stock market is up what will you be saying then?

        My money is perfectly safe in the U.S. The U.S currently offers the safest financial markets in the world and my stock portfolio has done very very well under Obama.

  • shelldoll2

    Yes we can! No we can’t! Well we could but we won’t! (See dead Americans in Bengazhi) I wept last night.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I think that I am too mad about the Benghazi coverup to weep. The fact that CBS sat on Obama’s admission until 2 days before the election and then acted as if it didn’t mean a thing has me furious.

  • Popsmoke

    Here is 2012 election insanity…. $6bn spent in total aaaaaaand we ended up with basically the same result… just sickening…

    • Bill O’Reilly

      It is the GOP who are against election financing reform and it is conservatives who gave us Citizens United. Complain about your own side…

      • HObama HObamanana

        In the interests of national unity I’m not going to tell you to fuck off. But the more I think about it, I realize that you have no respect for unity so I might as well go ahead and tell you to fuck off. Fuck Off!

      • jrterrier

        Are you kidding me? Senator Obama was the first candidate since public financing went into effect, who rejected public financing so he could accept all the money he could from any sources.

        • HObama HObamanana

          You think this Obot cares about facts? They have a narrative carefully crafted by their master that they repeat over and over again, ad nauseam. Truth is just another word for something else to choose.

        • Bill O’Reilly

          Obama rejected public financing because he was going to be at an extreme disadvantage because of the all the outside money the conservatives were raising. The Obama people said to McCain that they would stay within public financing if McCain would do an all emcompassing deal including outside money to even the playing field. McCain and the conservatives said they would not, so Obama was forced to decline public financing to ensure that he was not at a disadvantage in total spending. Go read the history.

          • jrterrier

            Does that history also include a chapter on how the Bush tax cuts caused the housing/banking crisis of 2008?

          • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

            No; we are not saying, Obama stated no reason for declining public campaign financing to which he had previously agreed. Rather, we are saying, Obama, for whatever reason he stated, went back on his word.

            As for history, well, as I stated to you previously, with links; Obama went on to accept foreign donations, in violation of U.S. election law. And you don’t have to take his word for it; you can just look at his campaign filings with the FEC. (They even paid several hundred thousand dollars in penalties for accepting unverifiable donations.) http://www.rollcall.com/news/FEC-Launches-Obama-Campaign-Audie-205014-1.html

      • Popsmoke

        My side? LOL! Like your side complains? Look both sides abuse the hole and are at fault not just one or the other. But congratulations on the win. Now let’s fix the fucking thing or are we going to start gridlock right now?
        By the way, thanks for taking out West, Mourdock and Mr. A womans body can control rape. At least thats one good thing that came out of this $6bn boondoggle….

        • jrterrier

          it’s not a good thing if we are left with McCaskill, another DEM, who supports the 99%ers but whose husband made millions off the stimulus, for which she voted.

        • Bill O’Reilly

          We missed the greatest congresswoman in your party – Michelle Bachmann (although Palin who use to be the greatest is neutralized).
          My side just plays by the rules they have to work with. However, Democrats for years have attempted to push campaign finance reform. I don’t think you would find a Democrat alive who does not want at minimum full disclosure and spending limits. It is conservatives who have continually gone to the Supreme Court to block campaign finance reform or to strike down current rules. Go see the recent SCOTUS ruling involving the +100 year old Colorado independent state campaign rules which a conservative group took all the way to the SCOTUS.

      • beachnan

        You liar. When McCain wanted to have campaign reform, Obama said no. Typical Democratic lie.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

        Did you forget that in the 2008 general election, both O and Mc promised to stick to public financing of their campaigns; but O reneged? And that, after reneging, his campaign failed to institute the software which would have identified whether potential contributors were from another country and then, blocked their contributions?

        Obama Reneges on Public Financing” (Washington Post)

        Obama’s Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes (American Thinker)

  • HObama HObamanana

    I don’t care if I am called a conspiracy nut or whatever for what I am going to say. I’ve been crunching the numbers here in Ohio and some of this stuff just doesn’t add up. For one thing, 10,212 fewer people voted in the county I reside in compared to 2008. But I know for a fact that there were lines everywhere yesterday to vote. I reported as much right on this blog. And I also know for a fact that such lines didn’t exist 4 years ago. So this just doesn’t make any sense to me. And I have checked, double checked and triple checked my numbers.

    • tushdi

      I agree, things just don’t add up.

    • jrterrier

      Count me in as one of your conspirators. I kept on saying that the fix was in when Stephanie Cutter told the press not to be too concerned with the numbers as they came in. Wait until the finals.
      And the MSNBC crazies were very glum yesterday morning as if they had seen the internal polls and knew what was coming (which of course didn’t happen because of the fraud).
      And in almost every area, the early voting #s were not as favorable to Obama. In CO, Republicans were ahead in the early voting #s and still lost.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Once I am in a better place I will write what I have discovered from my number crunching. Right now I’m just trying to get a sense of how everyone is. And trying not to engage with this swarm of Obots. Trying. Didn’t say I wasn’t swatting occasionally.

    • skinny_malinky

      Gosh, maybe it was because of the early voting restrictions…nah, must have been a conspiracy by Obama!

      • randi

        Hey, if you cannot even recall a youtube video being promoted incessantly for 2 WEEKS that sure looks like a DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL DIVERSION FROM THE TRUTH, I doubt you are gonna understand where we are coming from.

        • skinny_malinky

          Are you referring to the anti-Muslim movie trailer, or another video?

          • HObama HObamanana

            I was going to guess the Obama-Clinton pro-Islam we are so very sorry that America sucks video. But yours works too.

    • randi

      I have also tried some crunching and Virginia does not add up. I am not stupid. And I know this state. This must be that ‘new math’..the math they use on Capital Hill? CP Math? For some reason, that youtube video issue just niggles at me. Something about the way the lie was tried and then when it wasn’t working – it was withdrawn as though it never happened. Most of the press helped with that magic trick. Candy was at Romney’s site last night. Numbers for specific parts of my State were delayed. Reminded me of 2008 – a few States with precincts that were delayed and where I noticed the numbers then pushed him right up nicely. I know this can happen – watched many returns on election nights. But there is a pattern to this..or am I nuts? Always, as he is losing..a few areas are not called (with enough in that they typically call) – then we wait – then magic! It is unnerving. Why does that make me uncomfortable? Either I need a tinfoil hat or there is a puzzle here and I only have some of the pieces. Anyway – felt good to vent.

      • HObama HObamanana

        The 4 counties in Virginia (Fairfax, Prince William, Chesapeake and Virginia Beach) that were kept open late due to long lines actually had 115,983 less voters than 2008. Or maybe I should play it safe and say that they had 155,983 less votes than 2008.

        Fairfax was down 76,732 votes, Prince William was down 3,107 votes, Chesapeake was down 10,051 and Virginia Beach was down 26,093 votes from 2008. Yet they had to extend voting hours?

        • beachnan

          Doesn’t make sense.

          • randi

            It makes perfect sense, nonsense! ;)

        • randi

          4 Hours. They extended voting for about 4 hours. More machines plus more staff plus longer lines = less people. Must be Chicago math?

          • randi

            Surely there must be a local journalist (I know, rare breed) or honest local politician (even rarer) that cares enough about the integrity of our election process to ask questions or look into this oddity? The lack of curiosity is, in itself, quite curious.

          • wylrae

            Or as Bill Clinton would say, the difference is the arithmathic!

    • jrterrier

      Here’s more evidence for your conspiracy: In Wisconsin,
      “Republicans recaptured the state Senate on Tuesday, once again giving them the complete control of state government that they used to enact sweeping changes in the last legislative session.” http://networkedblogs.com/EruDo

      How did Romney/Ryan lose?

    • jemblue

      I find it VERY hard to believe that Romney received fewer total votes nationwide than John McCain did four years ago, given that conservatives were far more energized this time around. That absolutely does not make sense.

      • randi

        Maybe there are fewer people registered to vote in 2012 than in 2008? Or fewer Republicans? Or the population has fallen considerably? Or the campaigns ran fewer ads this time? Perhaps there was less media coverage of this campaign? Or Mitt’s campaign did less ‘get out the vote’ effort? Or had fewer early voters? Or the incumbent had improved the economy so much that people had more money than when he took office? Maybe the economy just wasn’t an issue that concerned voters this time around? They were paying less in taxes? Gas prices were lower? More of them had jobs and were happy? Fewer were in poverty? There was so much more enthusiasm for the incumbent this time? Attendance at the opponents rallies was better than 2008? I mean..there just has to be a logical or emotional explanation for FEWER voters, right? Me? I’m guessing Twilight Zone.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Yep. Lots of things don’t make any sense.

  • Hokma

    This was not about a flawed presidential candidate or about
    a great campaign by Obama.

    This was, as it should have been, the most important
    election of our lifetimes and a distinct choice.

    This was not about the influence of a biased media or an
    unfortunate storm last week or the clearly self-absorbed New Jersey republican
    (small “r”) Governor and his single handedly making Obama look good for 15
    minutes.

    The re-election of Obama stands for a system of government
    that the majority of people in this country want, have had, and want to see
    fulfilled.

    Here are two forms of government:

    1. A system of
    government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single party
    holds power; state controls business ownership. ownership of property or
    capital while claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which
    all goods are equally shared by the people.

    2. A state in which the powers of the central government are
    restricted and in which the states, retain a degree of self-government, and
    ultimate sovereign power rests with the People.

    The latter was the system of government created by the
    founders of our country and was inscribed in the U.S. Constitution. The former
    has become the system of government we have increasingly lived with since the
    New Deal. The latter is called a federal republic. The latter is communism.

    Obama unabashedly said he sought to redistribute wealth,
    that individuals did not create their own success, and that the central
    government was best to run our economic and social institutions.

    I know that most people that comment here tune this out but
    this was a course first set during the Great Depression where that generation
    accepted a new direction for the United States which was to have the central
    government take care of our problems and make life easier for us. It was based
    on policies that FDR’s advisors saw in communist Russia and thought would work
    for us. FDR was the Barak Obama of his time.

    FDR got re-elected by creating divisions in this country and
    enticing groups to become reliant on government and therefore on him. Obama has
    done the same. The New Deal never resolved the economic depression and in fact
    extended it so that it became the new norm. Obama has done the same.

    That path was never reversed by the baby boomers and was instead
    enlarged by Lyndon Johnson and then by Bill Clinton. For all the folklore, Ronald
    Reagan did little or nothing to make a dent in that inevitable trajectory.

    Obama is just finishing the job and over the next 4 years
    Americans will realize their federal republic is no more and will learn to live
    and accept the socialism with an evitable path toward communism brought by
    Obama.

    Nixon defeated LBJ/Humphrey because of foreign policy
    (Vietnam) – not because of domestic issues. The same with Reagan over Carter.
    While the phrases may have been poetic, Carter lost because of foreign policy
    (Iran hostage crisis). And George W. Bush won because Al Gore was a jerk (and
    still is) and not for any policy reasons.

    This may have been a close election but there can no longer
    be any dispute that the majority of Americans want government to control our
    economic and social institutions. There are still states who still seek a
    federal republic but they are growing smaller with increasing population of
    people who want government reliance.

    In the end our financial systems will be heavily controlled
    by government which will limit capital risk which will continue the stagnant
    growth as well as place limits on entrepreneurialism. Our religious
    institutions will be subject to government mandates that may step on religious
    freedom but under Obama the Bill of Rights has been treated as a pesky
    impediment to his goals.. Our judicial system has already been corrupted to
    empower the executive branch’s goals. Our education system will be completely controlled
    by the federal government and we will, within a few years, have a fully
    nationalized healthcare system that will severely reduce our quality of care.
    And as far as the fourth estate, we have already seen that they are and will
    remain a tool of socialism.

    Beginning with the New Deal this people of this country have
    chosen a path toward collectivism and away from individualism.

    I was reading on different blogs how conservative pundits
    are making short term excuses or seeking a GOP soul searching and ignoring the
    obvious.

    This is what our country is now and it is something that
    will not be reversed – certainly not in our lifetime.

    As for me, I have one company left and will seek to exist
    that soon. At that point it is likely that I will move elsewhere after
    investigating tax codes, living standards, etc. This election solidified the
    fact that this is not and never again will be the United States that the
    founding fathers created. The next four years under Obama will cement that.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I completely understand your point of view and empathize with it. I’m not so certain that I am ready to completely give in or give up just quite yet. But I’m also not quite certain just exactly what it is that I am going to do. I do know that I am going to do some long overdue patriotic soul searching because neither political party truly speaks for or represents me.

      If there is anything to “hope” for it is that fellow Americans will wake up from this coma they’ve been lingering in while the country and everything it was founded for not so slowly slips away. Neither major political party really represents our best interests. They are both corrupt and will use whatever means possible to convince us otherwise so that they may retain power.

      • Hokma

        This is the trajectory we all grew up with. It is better to understand the reality of what the majority have voted for over decades and deal with that rather than continue to believe that this will ever be reversed.

        • HObama HObamanana

          And I participated in that voting, the worst of it while I supported democrats. I am not ready to give up on America regardless of the odds against it. I feel like hell today but I am not about to give in.

    • elizabethrc

      In spite of all the excuses made for Christie, he’s ended his further political career. I am utterly disillusioned with Christie.

      • Hokma

        As Laura Ingram said, do not be surprised if Christie formerly switches parties. He was an embarrassment as a key not speaker – as a surrogate – and as a suck up to Obama at the eleventh hour.

        You’re right. he is done in the GOP.

      • wylrae

        If I am still around, I know I will not be voting for him.

    • jrterrier

      You are still thinking and analyzing.
      This was an identity politics election engineered to squeeze every last vote. Truth and reason and right be damned. The president squeezed every last vote out of the African American community, who voted based on emotional identity. He lured recent Latino arrivals with the Dream Act executive order. He lured young women with all the talk about contraceptives & abortions (aided along by those Reps who seem to slip all over themselves whenever they have to put together a sentence with rape & abortion). He lured LGBTs with his same-sex marriage evolution.
      I don’t think Republicans will win so long as social issues dominate primaries. There just is not a majority for those issues.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I may be analyzing your comment too much, but it strikes me as how frightening it is that the government knows so much about the citizens it is supposed to protect that it is able to manipulate them at will. And what does it say about a media that knows from exit polling who won the election long before any of the votes have been tallied? And what of all this Twitter analysis of words sent back and forth? Do you really think that is all the information they keep track of and share to the highest bidder?

        • jrterrier

          It is frightening. We willingly expose ourselves to it also — even by posting on this site. Banks know more about my spending habits than I do. If I do a search for new cars, the next day as if by magic I receive unsolicitied emails from car sellers. 2001, a Space Odyssey & 1984 combined.

      • wylrae

        Have to pretty much with Hokma. I am fast approaching 75 and have witnessed this turn toward government to solve all problems instead of taking some individual responsibility. It didn’t take long for JFK’s “think not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country to be totally turned around. Certainly will not be another Tom Brokaw writing some equivalent to the “greatest generation” referring to this period in our history. IMHO the greatness that was America’s was that an individual could dream and pursue that dream. Government has turned those dreams into nightmares of paperwork, permits, regulations and approvals. So why bother anymore, government is on the path to totally controlling our lives — heck I would be willing to bet that government knows more about me than I know about myself.
        People the great experiment of freedom and liberty is over. Oh, it may sputter along for a few more years but it is done; people no longer are self reliant, instead most believe it is government’s duty to make them happy (maybe an extreme example: oh I partied all night and got blown away and now I am pregnant but want to continue being able to go out and party — it is government’s responsibility to pay for my abortion so I can con tinue being happy) and provide for them (I am not going to take a couple of menial jobs to provide for my family, it is the government’s responsibility to to provide the resources for me to provide my family with food, housing, transporation, health care, and entertainment).

    • mgm

      This is a thought-provoking analysis. I hope everybody reads it even if you think you don’t agree.

      • win43

        The idea that electing a moderate liberal to a second term has set us on an “inevitable path” to communism is deeply, even profoundly, stupid.

        • Hokma

          This is the kind of comment one would expect from a graduate like you of the Ajax Technical School for dimwits.

          Try coming back with a coherent defense of The New Deal or an intelligent understanding of communism. Or just read Obama’s own frigghin book. Or just shut the hell up dimwit.

          And if you do then don’t be upset when I slam dunk anything you do come back with.

          Obama and his followers are a direct result of an education system that indoctrinates and does not educate.

  • Hokma

    “Barack Obama isn’t a socialist.”

    No. He is a communist – understand what communism is and how to achieve it – he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

  • Hokma

    70% of Jews voted for Obama again and by doing so willfully turned their back on Israel who will be completely isolated under the Obama regime. Expect Israel to continue to become closer with Russia and possibly China and have greater distance from the United States.

    • scottymac54

      What happened to your “landslide”, Hokma?

      • Hokma

        How about we meet and “discuss” this.

        You always were an ignorant Obama loving communist and were too stupid to hide it.

      • jrterrier

        What happened to yours?

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Hokma was just full of shit, as he always is.

        Isreal has done very very well so far under Obama. Record military and intelligence cooperation. Continued big U.S. dollar grants to Israel. And Isreal has pretty much had a free hand in doing whatever it wants with settlements and the Palestinians. Israel has absolutely nothing to complain about and after backing the GOP and completely mismanaging his relationship with the U.S. and Obama, Netanyahu better watch his step.

        • Hokma

          How about we meet to “discuss” this issue keyboard coward?

    • win43

      Hey, Hokma! I guess the polls were right after all, huh?

      • stodghie

        with a soros owned company handling the vote count, do you honestly think your bs holds water. that is the story line the hapless uninformed americans are being fed. we are lied to and manipulated. obama was able to tell a story better cause the media says so. yeah right barf barf

        • win43

          Yes, it’s the greatest conspiracy of all time. Somehow they managed to fix the nationwide polling AND the vote count, and keep it all under wraps. Amazing!

          Probably they’re setting the stage for an alien invasion, am I right?

          • stodghie

            your sarcasm is lacking along with brain matter. LOL now you have a nice day enjoy obama’s amerika!

            • win43

              And you enjoy muttering dark conspiracy theories to yourself in this cobwebbed corner of the internet. Mind the black helicopters, now.

              • stodghie

                don’t need to mutter it in dark corners. it is the truth. you might figure it out before we go over the cliff i am not sure but considering what i see you write here i doubt you’ll ever get it.

                • win43

                  The idea that the vote totals from this election have been manipulated is both untrue and completely, laughably ridiculous.

                  If you believe otherwise, you are actually a crazy person. Like, schizophrenic, hearing voices… y’know, crazy.

                  • stodghie

                    sigh typical lib throw insults around. it isn’t worth my time talking to those who cannot and won’t think for themselves. have a nice day!

                    • win43

                      Typical crazy-ass conspiracy theorist response: “if you can’t see the OMG SO SINISTER truth, I’m not going to explain it to you!”

                      LOL

                    • Hokma

                      Understand who you are speaking to. win43 is a esteemed graduate of the Ajax Technical School of Law. He got his admission from the a book of matches and never had to leave his basement to get his degree.

                    • stodghie

                      ty hokma you have a fine way with words. have a good day

  • MG6

    Val Jarrett stated that she plans to take revenge…..Obama promised Putin WHAT!
    How much more in debt will Soros want us to carry?
    Israel is now on her own thanks to the American Jew. Iran thanks you, btw.
    To the AA community good luck with the unemployment rate.
    Have you every seen anyone look at you and lie in your face with such ease……watch Obama

    • HARP2

      I hope the young are happy with what they have sown. I`m sure they will enjoy further debt and rampant inflation.

      When the shit hits the fan don`t look to me to pay for it…….I won`t be here. That goes for any charities too…..I think I will enjoy telling them ….Go ask Obama .

      • MG6

        I believe these are our last free elections. If Obama doesn’t remain in power forever then he will pass the baton to Hillary in 2016. Of course there will be a pretend elections for the ignorant masses.
        The DSP will rig the machines and this republic will be no more.

        • jrterrier

          i think hillary will be a little too old. but someone like tammy baldwin, openly gay, good looking, articulate will win the next “emo” election.
          reason be damned.

          • MG6

            She doesn’t need to do anything…just like Obama she’ll take her orders from the politburo in Chicago.
            How do you cook a frog…..in warm water then slowly turn up the heat. The frog neves see what is coming.

        • mgm

          Wait! Hillary will be too old and relatively unknown by many in 2016. But Andrew Cuomo will be ready and if he can fix New York State’s monumental financial problems he will deserve consideration. He’s governing now as pretty much of a moderate and is getting high marks from both sides (76% approval.)

        • KenoshaMarge

          They don’t have to rig the machines. The schools don’t educate our children to think and the MSM doesn’t inform them so that they could think if they knew how.

      • elizabethrc

        I wonder just how long it’s going to be before the nation’s blacks start banging on the White House fence, demanding that all their freebees (“he give me cell phone”) be given back. It’s inevitable that as we fall deeper and deeper into his economic morass, those programs will disappear eventually. Who knows. Maybe it’s a good thing. If they get hungry enough they’ll actually try to find a job. Oh, wait! There won’t be any because business owners will not be able to hire (too many regulations), consumers won’t be able to buy (prices exhorbitantly high), and supplies won’t be there (manufacturing will greatly diminish).
        Obama has bitten off far more than he can chew and the anger the conservatives have felt over the past four years will spread to Liberals as well. Poverty doesn’t play favorites and this is the gift Obama will have given us when this is all over. He will rue the day he won a second term. You think there was anger at Obama before? Just wait until he gets it from both sides.

      • wylrae

        Pretty much my feelings also; am thinking of sending breast and ovarian cancer research requests for donations back with a note to the effect “ask the women’s party to take care of this.”

    • Cold&Tired In PA

      so.. who thinks Valerie Jarrett will be the next Pres nominee for the Dems?

      • jrterrier

        not me. she is not attractive enough.

        maybe eva longoria. this isn’t about substance. it’s about looks, perceptions, identity politics.

        • wylrae

          It will be someone who can talk the talk (or read the teleprompter), not someone who has walked the walk. Demos and Obots don’t give a damn about past performance or achievements, only about pretty promises.

    • wylrae

      “Have you every seen anyone look at you and lie in your face with such ease……”
      How about Bill Clinton, maybe?? Had pretty much respected him as a politician and as president (certainly not as a person) until he decided campaigning for “party” was far more important than country. And he did a pretty good job of misrepresenting, skewing, or whatever you want to call it — well alright, lying — out stumping for 0zer0.
      In my book, both Bill and Hillary Clinton as individuals are pretty much in the top layer of the scum of society. They are the poster children for the “me, me, me…” attitude which is now dominating our society. And by no means am I excluding 0zer0 from that group. I know that if there is any kind of world disaster where Bill Clinton is asked to head up a request for donations, I will not be opening my wallet; let his “party” take care of it! Is pretty much my feeling about any contributions in the future to breast cancer and ovarian cancer research charities also; let the women’s “party” take care of it!
      Very sad, but the main chapter about the road to the downfall of the American experiment in freedom and liberty that has shown brightly, at least in the early part of most of our lives (well, for us older people), this decade in our history will dominate that chapter.
      As for those who voted for 0zer0, I hope you enjoy “Obamacare”, continued high unemployment, the lack of good job opportunities, and the increased role government will be playing in your lives. If you really think this government gives a sh-t about you, then take a look at Benghazi and our four dead Americans.

    • mgm

      Revenge for what?

  • Jim Gocht

    The “Tea Party”…
    Kicks arse…
    …and takes names…!

    Old soldier sends…
    Hugs Mamma…!

  • HObama HObamanana

    Bronwyn, I don’t think that Tammy Baldwin being the first openly gay Senator elected is a good thing. Granted, I may have been living under a rock or something but I didn’t even know that she was gay until you made a point of it. I don’t judge (or congratulate) people based upon their sexual inclinations. That is their own business and I would prefer that they not make it mine.

    • jrterrier

      you were living under a rock. baldwin made a big deal of it.

      • HObama HObamanana

        That’s her problem, not mine.

    • skinny_malinky

      Are you really so dense that you can’t see why this is important?

      • HObama HObamanana

        A person’s sexuality is not important to me.

        • win43

          It’s evidently important to you that they keep it to themselves, though. Wonder why?

          A person’s sexual orientation isn’t a reason to vote either for or against them. However, given the historical marginalization — and not even all that long ago, outright persecution — of gays and lesbians, it’s a marker of social progress that an openly lesbian woman can be elected to the Senate. That’s a good thing.

          • MG6

            We already had an openly gay person in congress….Barney Frank.
            BTW, not all gays vote Dem since most of us have jobs and are more worried about our nation.

            • win43

              Oh, well, since there was one token gay in the House, I guess there’s no reason at all to be pleased that there’s now one in the Senate! Is that your point? If not, you’re not actually responding to anything I said, and I’m ignoring you.

              • MG6

                Marker of social progress…If that is important to you, then bless your little heart.

                As a gay woman, I am more concern with having a qualified PERSON in the Senate and/or House. You now thw kind that works for country and not for special interest group.

                Not an ideologue. You know the kind Honour Duty, and for Country.

                And Win43….It’s not over!!!

              • wylrae

                “…and I’m ignoring you.”
                Then quit commenting on the subject!

              • KenoshaMarge

                Evidently you weren’t aware that Tammy Baldwin was in the House. Maybe you should know what the hell you’re talking about before you start lecturing others.

            • KenoshaMarge

              Tammy Baldwin was in the congress.

          • HObama HObamanana

            It is obvious that you aren’t nearly as old as I am. I have long accepted gay people, probably for much longer than you have been alive. To me, a person’s sexuality isn’t a big deal to me unless they make a big deal out of it, which apparently you do.

            I judge people by who they are and what they do, not who they have sex with and how, unless they are total pervs. And I’ve known a few of those in my life. People have the right to be who they are. I also have the right not to be subjected to their sexuality if I am so inclined. Tolerance and respect is a two way street.

            • wylrae

              “Tolerance and respect is a two way street.”
              Obviously not if you are of the wrong political persuasion!

              • HObama HObamanana

                Apparently.

            • skinny_malinky

              How are you “subjected” to any politician’s sexuality?

              • KenoshaMarge

                When they insist on telling us about it.

          • beachnan

            Only in your mind have they been persecuted for ages. Just like all the Blacks who think that we are still living in the 1950′s. Kids today do not look at the world with the same judgements. That’s the point, quit rehashing shit that doesn’t matter to anyone anymore. I don’t care if someone is Black and I don’t care if someone is gay. I care about their character, and the Democratic party is sorely lacking in character.

            • skinny_malinky

              Oh for God’s sake, if you don’t think there has been persecution of gays and lesbians, then you’re just willfully ignorant. The country is starting to treat gays & lesbians equally. This is a recent development. Pay more attention.

            • win43

              The Supreme Court only ordered states to de-criminalize gay sex in 2003. In the early 20th century — really not that long ago at all, in historical terms — some states castrated offenders.

              Either learn your history, or shut up about it.

              • beachnan

                So that was nine years ago-how long are you going to let yourself feel persecuted. I don’t care if gays marry, I love a lot of gay people. It still comes down to character. Shouldn’t you worry that Obama promised dadt and then didn’t do anything about it till it was politically expedient to do so. Why don’t you shut up.

          • KenoshaMarge

            That’s your opinion. I voted against her because she waaaaay too liberal for me. I don’t give a rat’s ass who she sleeps with. Most people don’t.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Are you really so dense you can’t understand that to some of us it isn’t important?

    • KenoshaMarge

      I agree HoHo. I voted against her and am heartsick that she won because she’s so damn liberal. I wish she would keep her sex life to herself. I am just not interested.

  • getfitnow

    Found this interesting comment.

    ******************

    POTUS VOTE TOTALS:

    1996 – 94,683,948

    2000 – 101,455,899 (+7%)

    2004 – 121,069,054 (+19%)

    2008 – 129,389,711 (+7%)

    2012 – 115,562,372 (-11%) <<< WTF?

    So after at least 7% voter growth every election since 1996, in 2012
    we drop 11%!!!! Has anything like this ever happened before? If you look
    at voters as a % of population the drop is even more staggering.

    And yet, polling stations had to remain open extra hours because of their sheer volume of voters?

    • HARP2

      4 years ago

      Obama
      received a total of 69,456,897 (52.9%) popular votes.

      McCain received a
      total of 59,934,814 (45.7%) popular votes.

    • skinny_malinky

      You know all of the vote hasn’t been counted yet, right?

  • getfitnow

    This hurts. I was so looking forward to a president I could be proud of.

    I’m glad Thanksgiving is coming up. I need to remember my blessings. Badly.

    • foxyladi14

      Grieve with us but remember God gave us this day to carry on.So carry on we must.

  • Sabinal

    The Reps did a good job (apart from Akin – Murdock just made a statement that got purposely twisted by the MSM) Americans are too scared to take risks in this economy. The talk of updating Medicare scared people. Plus the lies that many MSM commercials did persuaded many that Republicans are eeeeeevil.

    It will have to take real fiscal pain for Americans to understand that you can’t get something for nothing. But Romney et al were popular. People want something to believe in and don’t find sweating it out.

    I’m a liberal, but do not like the way my party is going. We’re going from the Democrat Party to the Gimmedat Party and we cannot afford it. I see us being like the UK before long – high amounts of debt, race tensions with constant riots, and massive dissapointment

    • elizabethrc

      the outcome for Obama is predictable: disillusionment with him is going to be profound eventually and his second term will be his living hell. This time the anger won’t just be coming from one side. it will surround him, scorch him and blacken the legacy he so wants.

      • HObama HObamanana

        If the stock market today is any indication of things to come, we are in for a very rough ride. Not optimal Will Robinson!

    • HoosierinDixie

      I think you are right about it taking real fiscal pain for Americans to understand what was and is at stake. The AA community will continue to be marginalized as Latinos will be the target demographic for the future of the Democratic Party. When the looming EPA regulations are passed manufacturing will move abroad and the unions in the Midwest will suffer increased unemployment. Ditto for anyone in Coal country. College students will have even less opportunities in the job market after graduation. Current employees will see layoffs or be reduced to part time status because employers will do what is necessary to avoid the cost of healthcare mandates and penalties. Seniors and others who depend on social services will feel the pain when there is less money in the coffers to sustain these programs. Finding a doctor of their choice will becoming even more difficult with current MD’s retiring rather than absorbing the cost of Obamacare. Women won’t see any gains because they never do and their votes are guaranteed by a simply threat to over turn ROE v. WADE. How many times has that happened in the last 40 yrs? Oh that’s right….it hasn’t and won’t. Military contractors will finally send out those notices about layoffs soon to take effect because of sequestration. The list goes on and on. What will they do? Tax the evil 1 percenters? They will just move abroad. Yes it may just take real fiscal pain to wake people up and realize it’s true, you really do reep what you sow.

    • win43

      “Gimmedat”? Race riots?

      Ugh.

      • MG6

        There will be riots….give it time….but for race but for food…

        • win43

          No, there won’t.

          • MG6

            Raise the gas at $6 (as Obama stated he wants). Close down the coal mines. Restrict oil drilling (lose jobs).

            • win43

              Uh huh. Right. All of those things will happen, and then the food riots will start!

              OOGA BOOGA BOOGA, SO SCARY YOU GUYS

              lol

              • MG6

                Raise gasoline prices raises everything else such as food (for example). Economics 101

              • MG6

                Economics 101….
                Raise gas at about $6 or more. Eliminate coal and stop drilling. Due to obamacare, F/T position are now going to P/T. Business not hiring due to the uncertainty.
                All of this will bring the economy down.
                So yeah it will happen.
                But don’t be concern, FEMA has bought millions of hollow bullets…..?

    • skinny_malinky

      There are constant race riots in the UK? I don’t think you know what happens in the UK

  • POdVet

    Sad to say I knew this was coming. I predicted exactly what would happen with the LSM playing 24/7 anti Romney crap and that’s exactly what they did.

    • getfitnow

      This loss isn’t Romney’s fault. Even with the uphill battle, I thought R&R would prevail. It sure felt like it.

      Mitt ran a good campaign, picked a bold VP with big ideas, and had maybe the best debate performance in televised history.

      We got a true choice in this election, and too many Americans decided they want to be in a social welfare state. It is what it is.

      • skinny_malinky

        He didn’t run a good campaign. Obama was soooo vulnerable, and Mitt ceded the whole summer to him. Mitt let himself be defined by the Democrats and he never came back from that.

        He also cemented his demise by publishing that op-ed against the auto bailout, which lost him Ohio and possibly Michigan. After all, Romney has strong Michigan ties, but he never stood a chance of winning that state.

        Then he said illegal immigrants should self-deport. Bye bye Latino vote.

        That’s the whole problem with the Republican party. Their candidates have to be so far right in the primaries that they can’t believably go back to the center, where most of the country is.

        Romney was the best candidate the Republicans could field, other than possibly Huntsman. They still couldn’t beat a President who’d pushed through unpopular healthcare legislation, bombed in the first debate, and over-promised on improving the economy. And his middle name is Hussein! If the Republicans couldn’t win in this election, then they’re in huge trouble in the future.

        • mgm

          “Their candidates have to be so far right in the primaries that they can’t believably go back to the center, where most of the country is.”

          I regret to say, I think you have a point.

      • wylrae

        Well come on, you don’t really expect that people would want to work and sweat to achieve something when they can continue to suck from the government’s teat do you?

  • Dave L.

    Even my dogs are walking through the house with their heads down !!

    • jrterrier

      smart dogs.

  • csuzeq65

    Obama says he wants to work with Mitt romney. Are you learning impaired? Obama says a lot of crap and does none of it. Obama can suck it. No one needs to come crying to Mitt now, they didn’t want a better future so let all Obama voters have exactly what they voted for and then some. I will enjoy watching them starving to death in the streets and I am not sharing any of my food with any one of them.

    Actually, I hope Romney tells him where he can shove it.

    • binky354

      What do you think Obama meant, he wants to work with Romney. The POS probably wants to pick his brains to try to come up with a fresh idea or two. I wonder who they’re going to take revenge on.

      • SamR

        The pirate ship Revenge?

      • elizabethrc

        Somebody sure needs to give Obama a lesson in economics!

      • HoosierinDixie

        He probably wants to make him his business czar. God knows Obama himself doesn’t know a damn thing about it.

        • jrterrier

          Get your terms right — Secretary of Business is what he called it.
          Idiocy.

          • HoosierinDixie

            Tomato-tomatoe.

            • jrterrier

              :)

          • wylrae

            Yeah, SOB for short!

    • randi

      Honestly, I am gonna have to respectfully disagree. Our economic situation affects hundreds of millions of people, here and around the world. If Romney – or anyone can help..I hope that they do. One thing I grew to really like about Romney was that he is less about who gets credit and more about ‘let’s get it done’.

      • wylrae

        Has always been my feeling about Romney also. Is a prime characteristic of a good manager (leader).
        I really doubt that 0zer0 will be asking for any advice from Romney on what should be done. People are really delusional if they believe 0zer0 gives a s–t about them. He only cares about himself and being able to live like a king on someone else’s dollar. Don’t go asking him for help, he has got what he wants — 4 more years to tool around in AF1 and play like he is president. Too bad we can’t ask those four dead Americans from Benghazi how much 0zer0 cares about individual Americans.

      • csuzeq65

        You all seem to believe that Obama wants the country to succeed. What is your evidence of that? There is none. It cannot be incompetence because if that were true, Obamatollah would have sought out the help of experts long ago. He hasn’t.

  • KenoshaMarge

    If we want to get rid of trash like the POS that returns to the White House, to further destroy and disgrace out country we need to start with the MSM that elected him.
    As long as conservatives support the MSM news programs the truth will never be told.

    Work with Obama? NEVER!

    • Dbb3

      So you’re grandkids think you’re racist but they’re worthless welfare trash. So I’ve picked up from your posts. To which I say they ought to know and look who they issued from.

      • csuzeq65

        WTH are you talking about?

    • HObama HObamanana

      Unfortunately, now that politicians have figured out that they can control the MSM there is no turning back. Sure, some will continue to bitch, but once in power they will do the very same thing. Face it, other than citizen journalists there are no journalists, or damned few.

    • binky354

      I don’t bother with MSM at all; in fact I think any news channel will be off limits from now on except for the weather. I’m going to become ignorant about the world and be happy as shit. My children can fend for themselves. And if I’m not dead by the time I spend my savings on useless gadgets and toys for entertainment, I’ll apply for Food Stamps. Heck, I may even get a big screen tv for watching Dancing with the Stars and American Idol. And, I may get an iPad; it seems all the rage now. I’m through; let the little stupid darlings worry about a job or get on welfare. Their choice. After another 4 years of Obama, this country can never come back to greatness as it once was. I expect we will be attacked again, since I read yesterday that another Russian submarine was sneaking around our East Coast. Let the Muslims take over, institute sharia, and we’ll be happy being dumb and we might as well smoke a little weed every day. I hope MSM will like what they’ve wrought. They earned it. Do I sound down? Better believe it. I’m through with caring about the country.

    • elizabethrc

      Marge, what weapons do we have, other than writing the sponsors of msm news programs? How effective will it be to hit them in the pocketbook?
      Let the House do thorough investigations of the Benghazi affair. If it comes out that Obama willfully let these patriots die, impeach the swine. Surely even the msm can’t not broadcast impeachment hearings and maybe, just maybe the truth they’ve tried to hide will reach the American people.
      Whether he is ousted or not, given his pathological ego problems, he may not recover from the disgrace and maybe a few eyes will be opened.
      Just what will it take for the Democrat Congresspeople to be Americans first and politicians second?

      • jrterrier

        The NYT is almost bankrupt — financially & not just morally.

        • MG6

          Well that explains their tone deaf with Obama!

        • wylrae

          Guess since it is too big to fail the government better step in and bail them out. Are the workers union? If so, need to make sure that the union pension fund owns the operation after the bankruptcy proceedings.

        • mgm

          Now THAT’S good news! The financial bankruptcy, I mean.That newspaper deserves to be shut down–remember its role as cheerleader in the run up to the Iraq war? The number of bogus “reporters” that have been outed? The death of the NYT is long overdue.

          • jrterrier

            No way. The NYT was for Bush’s war? You must be mistaken. The NYT is full of hugely intelligent people who wouldn’t support such evil doings. Bush took us to war all by his lonesome. Colin Powell didn’t go to the UN to advocate for it and the DEMS in the Senate did not vote for it.

            Bush also loosened banking regulations, retroactively of course because it happened under Clinton’s watch but we all know that Bill wouldn’t lie about anything.
            And Bush also gave away the farm to Fannie & Freddie and Chris Dodd & Barney Frank didn’t have anything to do with it because we all know that a CT Dem and a Boston liberal would never do such a thing.
            I’ll send you the revised version of the last 20 years in the mail if you will you send me $20 (make it in gold please because $20 ain’t worth what it used to) and I’ll throw in a deed for part ownership of the Brooklyn bridge for good measure.

    • Dave L.

      Unfortunatley, I see what just happened in the election as an ongoing problem for conservatives. As long as they have a platform that wants to control abortion, worries about what the gay couple down the street are doing in their own home, and allow religious wackos to set the platform, they will lose a majority of women voters in every election. The Republician Party needs to tell the nut jobs that want to control other peoples bodies and thought prossesses, to take a frigging hike !! If the party can’t change, the election process we just went through, will be an ongoing process from now on.

      • wylrae

        “…control other peoples bodies and thought prossesses…”
        Is that sort of like Obamacare and its panel which will determine what procedures and treatments are best of us?

      • stodghie

        ooops dave you missed the whole point in that you are now more controlled than at anytime in you life and will be even more later. the story told by the liberal media sure did a number on you. oh well

        • mgm

          No, stodghie, I think you’re wrong. And I agree with Dave L. It’s the desire for governmental control of women’s bodies that is creating the abyss. It gained publicity this time because of a couple of Republican religious extremists and it may have lost Romney the election. It certainly cost Republicans some Congressional seats. I’d say women have spoken on this. And the Republicans will have to accept it or go the way of the Whigs. (If I hadn’t known Romney’s record in Massachusetts I would have had a problem voting for him myself, even though I believe he was by far the better candidate.)

          • stodghie

            mgm naw that is not how it works. we are on a financial cliff and the debt limit has been reached. we have debt our grandchildren will be paying. women already have won. i fought for the true war on that so don’t preach down to me. and that pathetic self serving fluke that they pranched around is a damn joke. the dem party will be destroyed along with our country. wake up and smell the damn failure or else your nose is dead.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I kinda agree with you. It’s one aspect of the GOP that has kept me from joining the party as opposed to only supporting them. I certainly do understand why people object to abortion. And I personally oppose federal funding for it. I don’t support abortion but I am pro-choice. I don’t believe that anyone has the right to tell an adult what they are allowed or denied to do with their own body. The solution to fewer abortions is better education, stronger families and more responsible sexual activity.

    • beachnan

      Marge, I am so depressed this morning. I look around I don’t see joy on anyone’s face. If so many people elected this guy, then why aren’t they thrilled? I am not entirely convinced that the Democrats didn’t steal this election. If they truly treasured every vote, then they would support voter id. Why are we allowing same registration, and voting? That is ripe for fraud. Someone said this morning that Tampay paper had Romney by 6 and I think it was Juan Williams that there were now 250,000 more hispanics from Puerto Rico and South America in Florida. Are they legal? Are they supposed to be voting? There is something wrong with an electorate that still believes that 59% to 39% that Bush is responsible for our bad economy. The problem is the younger generation is learning that they don’t need to take responsibility for their own actions. These are the people who are going to lead us forward. God help us all.

      • skinny_malinky

        This race went exactly as the most polls predicted. Were there a few polls that showed different margins? Sure, that’s always going to happen. Random sampling means there will be outliers.

        • randi

          skinny, apparently, anyone can make or fake a poll. A poll is a snapshot, and can show trends when methodology is consistent.

          What is curious..to me…is that my lying eyes saw more people voting in my precinct/county than I have ever seen (lived here since the 1960′s) – we had more machines plus more staff plus long lines and extended the voting for 4 hours. Yet, we had over 100,000 less vote than in 2008?

          • skinny_malinky

            If I could ask, what part of the country do you live in? A lot of the long lines that were seen in Florida & Ohio were due to reduction of early voting periods. It’s plainly obvious that this was done to try to limit accessibility to voting for working people.

            • mgm

              I wrote this at the end of the last thread. If you don’t mind, I’ll repeat it.

              Within the next four years the country needs to put in place some uniform voting regulations. The utter nonsense of waiting days for Florida votes to be counted should end right now. Early voting, the number of days and hours, should apply to all states or none. As in most countries, voter ID should be required and same day registration and voting should be abolished completely. The bitterness of losing would be easier to absorb if we had the sense that everyone was playing by the same rules. As it is, the razor thin margin of Obama’s victory in a few key states is leaving me with a residue of uneasiness.

              • randi

                Very practical. I would heartily support some standardization. I am guessing that as long as people insist that only the other side is cheating or that it is not really happening – nothing will change.

              • beachnan

                I agree, and I also think they should hand count ballots with both parties present. Anyone can flip a machine.

            • randi

              Sure. Fairfax County – in Northern Virginia. I’ll look at the numbers again..maybe I am too tired today and am missing something. This morning – it just did not add up.

          • win43

            Where do you live? Did your state make any changes to early or absentee voting since 2008? Did your state make procedural changes (ID, type of ballot, etc.) that made the voting process itself take longer? Did your county decrease the number of polling places?

            Etc., etc. There are many possible explanations for what you are describing, all of which are more plausible than poll workers systematically discarding hundreds of thousands of votes.

            • randi

              That’s a nice list of possibilities to look at. Thanks. For the record, I never accused anyone of anything. I am just looking into the discrepancy with a few others that are as curious. I’ll let you know what I find.

          • beachnan

            Thank God people are talking about it, because it doesn’t make sense. Long, long lines, and lots of interest and then supposedly less votes. It’s not logical.

        • stodghie

          if you can run false numbers in polls. garbage in and garbage out then you can do the same in an election. do you not recall that a company controlled by soros was in charge of the vote count?

          • skinny_malinky

            What is more likely, that polling companies (which have no incentive for publishing incorrect poll results) colluded with the government, which then fixed all the voting results to match those same polling results? Or that the numbers are true?

            People on this site love to call Obama an idiot, and to call the government incompetent, and then turn around and say they somehow masterminded a huge conspiracy to steal the election. Talk about math not adding up…

            • win43

              Yeah, it’s pretty funny.

              On the one hand they say Obama can’t be trusted to run a public library. On the other hand, they say Obama has engineered the biggest, most utterly incredible conspiracy of all time: the systematic rigging of both polling (by dozens of independent firms) and vote tabulation (by hundreds if not thousands of county boards of elections)… all without anybody breathing a word of it or leaving a scrap of proof behind.

              It’s just amazing the lengths to which some will go in order to avoid confronting the fact that they’re in the minority politically.

              • mgm

                I understand your position, except that most polls, especially the national ones, showed the race as too close to call.

                • win43

                  No, they didn’t. That’s what the media told you, because the media was selling election coverage and close races sell a lot more coverage than not-close races.

                  But look at Nate Silver’s model, which is nothing more complicated than weighted poll aggregation. Silver had Obama winning the popular vote by 2.5% (actual: 2.6%). Silver called 50 out of 50 states correctly.

                  The polls, averaged together, showed a projected result very, very close to what actually happened.

                  • randi

                    I am not disputing Nate’s model. I am questioning that the turnout was lower in 2008 than in 2012 in my area. I was there most of the day for both! One of those numbers is off. That’s what I actually saw! It has absolutely nothing to do with a poll. It is math. Mine versus whatever process reported numbers. It’s all the talk at water coolers and the stores..dems and reps are equally dumbfounded. Are we missing a bunch of votes that somehow did not get counted? That’s what people are wondering.

                    • HObama HObamanana

                      I don’t see how we couldn’t be missing votes. But trying to convince an Obot is like talking with a potted plant. They sit there and look pretty but don’t comprehend a single thing you say. Actually they are worse than a potted plant. Most potted plants I’ve known would have tried to understand if they had the capacity. Obots, not so much.

              • randi

                win43, With respect. I saw what I saw and I know what I know. This is not a partisan wish – this is reality based. I cannot just pretend I did not see an anomaly. I actually care very much about the integrity of our election process. It’s amazing what lengths some people go to try and make me believe that I did not see MORE people actually voting rather than less. I saw the 2 weeks of pushing that youtube video too. What is so frustrating is that whether you realize it or not, you are adding to the unease I feel about this. Perhaps you really are just trying to find alternative plausible explanations? I am just more logical than emotional so stuff that does not make sense just won’t go away so easily.

                • win43

                  Sorry, you’re not showing the slightest sign of being “logical,” if your first impulse is to assume that an American presidential election has been rigged.

                  • randi

                    I am using ‘logical’ as it is defined in a US dictionary..so perhaps we do agree? ;)

              • beachnan

                Idiot-it wasn’t Obama himself that engineered anything. It was the goons that work for him. Boy are you stupid. Where would Obama be without Axlerod or Jarret? Nowhere.

            • HObama HObamanana

              You can believe whatever bullshit you have to. What I know from personal experience is that there were more people voting in my district than ever before (we never had lines, ever) and yet there were fewer vote totals counted. And I have the printout from the county of every single precinct, so I kinda know what the hell I am talking about. Like I said before, Fuck Off Obot!

              • skinny_malinky

                It’s like you’re a little kid, so proud to be able to say “fuck”. Yes, it’s a naughty word. It makes you feel so big and bad to use it, doesn’t it? Anyway, as I posted in another thread, I’m leaving this place, never to post again. This site is irrelevant, just like you, so I’m not going to waste my time here anymore.

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      I disagree. Let’s assume, people know all they need to know about the man, and want to vote for him, anyway. But, given our unscientific perceptions, we believe more people voted for his opponent. So what?

      We need to start with (educating people about) the voting process. Suspecting fraud is one thing; but we don’t even know what was the real vote; and, with electronic voting, there is no paper trail.

      • HObama HObamanana

        I don’t know what the machines in your state are like but in mine they do produce a paper trail. You can watch as it is being printed. Now what is actually done with this I haven’t a clue.