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What is the White House Covering Up in Benghazi?

Bumped Up

The David Petraeus saga is just beginning. Tabloid America loves the sex scandal–a seemingly squeaky clean, straight arrow General was actually banging his biographer. His ironically titled biography, ALL IN, apparently had a back story with lots of in-and-out-and-in-and-out. Whose your Daddy?

Paula Broadwell’s speech at the University of Denver over a month ago attracted little attention at the time. Once she emerged as the femme fatale in this national security drama, folks took a second look. And Broadwell was caught on tape making some remarkable assertions:

“The challenge has been the fog of war, and the greater challenge is that it’s political hunting season, and so this whole thing has been turned into a very political sort of arena, if you will,” she said. “The fact that came out today is that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements.

“They were requesting the – it’s called the C-in-C’s In Extremis Force – a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the consulate and the CIA annex. Now, I don’t know if a lot of you have heard this but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner, and they think that the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get these prisoners back. It’s still being vetted.

“The challenging thing for Gen. Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya, within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

This quote exposes the limitations and knowledge of Broadwell. She is dead ass wrong about the CIF aka the Counterterrorism In Extremis Force. The CIF is a Special Forces unit that is part of EUCOM and AFRICOM–i.e., the US military commands responsible for Europe and Africa respectively. The CIF is not REPEAT NOT comprised of “Delta Force.”

Although she does not know what she is talking about with respect to the CIF, her comment about the CIA annex being used to imprison “a couple of Libyan militia members” is explosive. That info was not in the public domain. Although CIA came out today with a strong denial (they said nothing at the time when Broadwell made the claim), FOX NEWS has confirmed from sources with direct knowledge that there were in fact Libyans being imprisoned at that site.

Broadwell clearly had access to information known only to CIA personnel. Who did she know at CIA that could have given her such info? (Note, jrterrier reminds me that Fox reported the info that day, but I don’t think it likely that Broadwell gleaned it from that source.)

What most of the media have missed (not Fox) is the so-called CIA annex. Consider this. What if the activities at that site contained both CIA and a separate entity, foreign owned, that was being used to move weapons to Syrian rebels. Why use a foreign group? If the operation involved a U.S. organization or U.S. personnel, then Barack Obama would have had to sign off on a Presidential Finding authorizing the covert activity.

But what if the Saudis were funneling money for weapons to a foreign entity in Libya that was under the control and direction of the White House? That is called political dynamite.

We already know that the United States via the CIA was helping arm the Syrian rebels. According to the New York Times in a 14 October 2012 article:

Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar al-Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster, according to American officials and Middle Eastern diplomats. . . .

The United States is not sending arms directly to the Syrian opposition. Instead, it is providing intelligence and other support for shipments of secondhand light weapons like rifles and grenades into Syria, mainly orchestrated from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The reports indicate that the shipments organized from Qatar, in particular, are largely going to hard-line Islamists.

Note the date. By October 14, more than a month after the attack at the so-called “Annex,” the Administration was putting out the word that it was perplexed and puzzled by the weapons falling into the hands of jihadists.

Guess what? U.S. concern was heightened after its operation based in Libya to help the Saudis funnel weapons to the rebels was destroyed.

Dave Petraeus was right in the middle of this. He went to Turkey on 2 September 2012. Per the New York Times:

American officials have been trying to understand why hard-line Islamists have received the lion’s share of the arms shipped to the Syrian opposition through the shadowy pipeline with roots in Qatar, and, to a lesser degree, Saudi Arabia. The officials, voicing frustration, say there is no central clearinghouse for the shipments, and no effective way of vetting the groups that ultimately receive them.

Those problems were central concerns for the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, David H. Petraeus, when he traveled secretly to Turkey last month, officials said.

The C.I.A. has not commented on Mr. Petraeus’s trip, made to a region he knows well from his days as the Army general in charge of Central Command, which is responsible for all American military operations in the Middle East. Officials of countries in the region say that Mr. Petraeus has been deeply involved in trying to steer the supply effort, though American officials dispute that assertion.

One Middle Eastern diplomat who has dealt extensively with the C.I.A. on the issue said that Mr. Petraeus’s goal was to oversee the process of “vetting, and then shaping, an opposition that the U.S. thinks it can work with.” According to American and Arab officials, the C.I.A. has sent officers to Turkey to help direct the aid, but the agency has been hampered by a lack of good intelligence about many rebel figures and factions.

Ambassador Chris Stevens was meeting in Benghazi, just prior to the attack, with a Turkish Ambassador. This piece from Business Insider in October takes on even more meaning in light of the Petraeus affair:

In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.

In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.

Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.

It is no coincidence that Stevens is meeting in Benghazi with a diplomat from Turkey while Petraeus was doing the same in Turkey. They were delivering a message to the Turks that more control over the weapons being funneled out of Libya had to be in place.

Did Congress get a Presidential Finding authorizing the movement of weapons? The answer on that front is probably no. That’s what Obama and his team are desperate to cover up.

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  • Upstate new york

    Is this hate speech. Any chance of racism. Possibility of both

    seriously in this is administration same as Clinton same as Nixon there will be no truth aboutit

  • http://twitter.com/ChocChipsMusic The Chocolate Chips

    something people need to think about when hearing/reading right wing conspiracy theories: “aren’t these the same people that were positive Romney was going to win the Election?” … they were wrong about the Election and they’re totally off base with their baseless conspiracy theories.

    • scottymac54

      “Landslide”, chips. Still waiting for the “landslide”….
      Meanwhile, in the reality-based world…..
      Not ONE fucking battleground state.

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  • jrterrier

    Good feel story about a soldier on a day that we can all use it:

    http://www.rightspeak.net/2012/11/this-is-why-america-is-greatest-country.html

  • sowsear1
  • randi

    oh for crying out loud..the only thing missing in this soap opera drama was an ‘evil twin angle’….http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232407/Petraeus-Allen-helped-Jill-Kelleys-twin-sister-bitter-custody-battle.html What next?

    • randi

      updating the tally. So far….Jill Kelley, an unpaid, social, military liaison has taken
      down a CIA Director, the ISAF Commander General, an FBI special agent, Paula Broadwell, and her twin sister.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Jill Kelley does have a twin sister.

    • sowsear1

      She may be evil or not, but Kelley does have a twin!!!

    • nickoury

      Aside from the real life Jill twin, I covered that angle yesterday:

      If anyone here has ever seen the FX show “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”, have you noticed an oddly strange similarity?

      Talk about separated at birth, Broadwell and Glenn Howerton could easily be considered TWINS, or possibly even the SAME person. Don’t take my word for it, have look for yourself:

      http://www.fxnetworks.com/sunny/cast/dennisreynolds

      I swear there’s something eerie about a Paula/Glenn match up.

    • jrterrier

      i thought you were being funny with the “evil twin” comment. for crying out loud for sure.

    • jrterrier

      Have you noticed that all pictures of Jill & her sister show them with their head slanted, posing for camera. Who are these women. They look like phoneys. Why didn’t Petreaus & his wife see through them?

  • akaPatience
    • HObama HObamanana

      Yeah, I read his reasons for reluctance. I didn’t see the obvious one: that he would be under oath.

      • akaPatience

        For sure.

    • mgm

      Too damn bad if he’s “reluctant.” He got himself into this mess and now he wants special consideration?

      • KenoshaMarge

        Maybe he should have just taken a page out of Billy C’s book…

    • jrterrier

      I’m at the point where I am unwilling to believe what the media is feeding us. Unfair or not, why should the MSM’s pronouncement be trustworthy at this point.
      Is it Petraeus or the administration who is reluctant for P4 to testify?

    • jrterrier

      from your abc news link, Patreaus’ investigatory trip in October to Lybia “was so recent that the CIA has told the Congressional Intelligence committees that the trip report has not yet been completed.”

      Not yet completed? Guess it takes longer to make up stuff than to just write the facts. What has happened to P4′s vaunted military discipline? Shouldn’t the report have been completed asap?

    • sowsear1

      He is being squeezed…no pension, possible military punishment/prison , wife’s job loss..etc

  • http://twitter.com/ChocChipsMusic The Chocolate Chips

    imagine if there was this kind of dirt digging after 9/11 … that was a rah rah America at war time… why is now different? oh yeah, because we have a Democratic President that the right wing will stop at nothing to destroy.

    • randi

      The Obama administration set off this set of inquiries by trying so darned hard to distract us with the ‘youtube video’. Then they turned around and tried to tell us they never did that. So…blame the Obama Administration and some of the Press for this one. It was too obvious for the rest of us to ignore.

      • jayhg

        Liar……stupid birther liar.

        • randi

          LOL. That just cracked me up. Do you have a manual with a list of talking points? When you run out of ridicule and insults, do you just start at the top of the list again? FWIW – I’m not a birther. Just an inquisitive American. C’mon Jay..now that this story is on Non-Fox networks/newspapers like ABC and WashPo – aren’t you the least bit intrigued?

          • jayhg

            Nah…..you’re a birther.

            • randi

              Racist, liar, birther. Lather, rinse and repeat!
              Oh, and you all are so full of hate and conspiracy theories. Don’t forget to throw that one in. I just wonder why President Obama and his administration lied to us with “It was the ‘youtube video’ ” And I wonder why most of the no-longer-free-press is in collusion. And I wonder why Obama supporters are so filled with hate..what extraordinary effort Obama supporters make to squelch any dissent. Support Obama or else. You must not question Obama. Racist, liar, birther. Lather, rinse and repeat!

              • jayhg

                Yes, keep going.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      You make a false assumption that those of us who don’t like Obama were Bush fans. I most certainly was not.

      • HObama HObamanana

        ditto!

      • jayhg

        Liar…..I don’t think you former Hillary “fans” were ever democrats. I think you’re all trolls who think that folks would believe that anyone who was a fan of Hillary’s would ever hate President Obama, since his and Hillary’s policies are the same. Hillary is a liberal. You guys here at no quarter are just plain old stupid birthers who hopes that no one notices. Pathetic.

        • randi

          Why are you so angry? I go way back in my respect for Hillary. I left the Democrat Party May 31, 2008 – as did many that day. Financially I may be a bit conservative. But socially – yeah – liberal. FYI, there are very good reasons for progressives to oppose Obama. NDAA.

          • jayhg

            I know u we’re never a democrat the second you childishly said “democrat” party. You birthers crack me up think that bothers democrats. It just makes you guys look stupid.

            • randi

              nice try. NDAA, Obama’s Kill List, Drones, O’s war on whistleblowers, etc…

              • jayhg

                Huh? Right wing nut job birthers sound more demented with each successive post. Successive means post after post after post.

    • scottymac54

      When the allegations against Herman Cain first came out, I remember many of his supporters claiming that it was all a big smear job, that none of it mattered one whit anyway, and blamed the media in general for destroying his campaign.
      How are many, if not virtually all, of those same aggrieved Cain supporters, have suddenly rediscovered their indignance, and are singing a different tune with Petraeus, today?
      How many of them claimed to have supported Hillary in 2008?
      It’s all partisan, all political.

    • jayhg

      Yes, and Larry could REALLY destroy this president if he would reveal the whitey tape that he promised to release in 2004.

      • Daniele Dubroca

        Why do you care so much about Obama as opposed to the citizens he is supposed to be serving? Elected officials are servants of the JQ Public, not the rulers. And besides, he’s got the whole MSM to take care of him and get him where he needs, and protect him from disastrous irresponsiblity such as Benghazi. , Because he sure couldn’t do it himself. I doub’t he can negotiate the WH loo by himself.. So why do you care? Do they pay you?

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    One has to wonder what Kelley (and her husband) got out of being an “unpaid social liaison” for military flag officers based in and transiting through the Tampa, Fl area. Perhaps she was paid, just not by the US government. “Liaison” between which parties or entities?

    • sowsear1

      Saw that she and husband need money…mortgages unpaid, etc

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      There is cash stashed without a doubt.

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  • akaPatience

    With today’s news items about Gen. Allen, it does seem possible that a huge salacious smokescreen is being employed to distract from the main issue that Larry has outlined above. While Petraeus and Broadwell admitted to having an affair, the same doesn’t apply to Allen and Kelley. Yet. The WP article linked on Drudge and below includes claims that refute an affair between Allen and Kelley as well as claims that the number (20-30,000) of emails and documents exchanged is exaggerated.
    Though the Congressional inquiries into Benghazi and L’Affaire Petraeus evidently will take placed behind closed doors, if something as serious as Larry has suggested is revealed in those hearings I can’t imagine it won’t become public. This wouldn’t be something easily swept under the rug even by the Palace Guards.

    • jrterrier

      Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the chair of the house foreign affairs committee has said (on one of the cable shows) that she wants to hold public hearings on benghazi because if not the Administration is free to leak info & they cannot respond. Her committee is the one that has asked Hillary to testify because that’s the committee that has oversight over State, I guess. Ros-Lehtinen said that they are negotiating with Hillary to see when she would be available.

  • Sarah

    Their is no longer any integrity for journalist because they choose their journalists by how they look on TV..Most are as dumb as dirt but they look good on TV..

  • jrterrier

    And this: Hamas Continues To Rain Rockets Down On Israel, More Than 160 Fired Since Saturday…
    I wondered when the Arab Spring would spill over into all out war against Israel. I guess they needed to wait until after the election.
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/13/hamas-continues-to-rain-rockets-down-on-israel-more-than-160-fired-since-saturday/

  • jrterrier

    Meanwhile back on the continent: “Radical Islamist cleric Abu Qatada was freed from prison on Tuesday after a UK court ruled he cannot be deported from Britain to Jordan to face terrorism charges. Qataba has been dubbed Osama bin Laden’s right-hand man in Europe. ” http://www.france24.com/en/20121113-radical-islamist-cleric-abu-qatada-free-uk-prison?ns_campaign=editorial&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=reseaux_sociaux&ns_fee=0&ns_linkname=20121113_radical_islamist_cleric_abu_qatada_free

    Seriously, someone please wake me when this nightmare is over.

  • Eyes Wide Open

    Now General John Allen is snagged in this mess. Strange all the top guns being taken down in some fashion. Why was the FBI involved in investigating a terrorist attack in a foreign country? Solidifying their power? Power in whose favor? Do they answer to Holder?

    • jrterrier

      FBI has jurisdiction over crimes committed on American soil, i.e., the US Embassy in Libya.

      • Eyes Wide Open

        I wondered about that, thanks. That said they are still under Holder.

  • jrterrier

    Really, Hillary instead of testifying about Benghazi, you are going to be in Australia on business & pleasure? Hope we aren’t paying for the security on this:

    ” US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton poised to visit friends in Adelaide next week

    Few details of Ms Clinton’s visit on Wednesday and Thursday have been revealed, but it is understood she will visit close friends, one whom is connected to the Carnegie Mellon University. It also believed that:

    THE 150-strong entourage is likely to visit Penfolds’ Magill Estate for either a wine tasting session or private function.
    THE entourage has booked more than 100 rooms over several floors at the Intercontinental Hotel on North Tce.
    HEAVY traffic restrictions are likely from late Wednesday ahead of her anticipated arrival that night.
    HER entourage will leave Adelaide on Friday morning.

    While Ms Clinton will be protected at close quarters by her own US Secret Service detail, dozens of AFP protection officers and STAR Group officers will be involved in protecting her motorcade and any venues she visits.”

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/exclusive-us-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-poised-to-visit-friends-in-adelaide-next-week/story-fndo471r-1226512913666

    • scottymac54

      But there’s nothing for Hillary to testify about. Her hands are clean.
      Even if she were being overtly targeted, any testimony would take place behind closed doors, due to the nature of our presence in Libya, and ongoing efforts in Syria.
      Anyone who is promising sensationalized headlines and fodder for the opposition is feeding you a line.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Just peachy. She will not be testifying because she will be visiting friends half way around the world. Nothing at all suspicious about that. No wonder her office didn’t pay attention to the urgent requests by Ambassador Stevens for added security. She was too busy jetting around seeing friends.

      And I actually passionately supported this woman for President at one time. Quick, someone give me a lobotomy. STAT!

      • jayhg

        Oh please. You’re just jealous. Why don’t you get a job that pays enough so you can jet around to see friends??? Opps……you don’t have any….

    • jayhg

      We will pay for Hillary as we’ve paid for all our other leaders of the country when they travel overseas. Just because she’s a Democrat, you’re suddenly all concerned about cost. You right wing nut jobs are pathetic…..and so transparent that it’s embarrassing.

  • Popsmoke

    Well it was going to either be neocons and dolts or neowilsonians and dolts….. What a mess the next four are going to be! Sam Powers UN Ambassador? Mike Vickers D/CIA? Or Brennan? Kerry SecDef? Who wants to bet that SecState is offered to Dick Lugar?
    http://m.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-considers-john-kerry-for-job-of-defense-secretary/2012/11/12/8a0e973a-2d02-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines

  • Popsmoke
    • scottymac54

      Neocon op. With a little nookie thrown in, as a deliberate distraction.

  • MG6
    • binky354

      The election was a sham; we need voter ID law in every state and similar voter regulations. But then, the Constitution is pretty much gone anyhow. Obama has used EOs to circumvent the Constitution and Congress has allowed it.

      He just did it again:

      http://www.independentsentinel.com/2011/08/obama-passed-his-un-treaty-and-not-a-word-from-congress-executive-order-13547/

      • Sharon Long

        I totally agree with you about voter ID. We do have it here in AZ. What really annoys me is some states allowing instant registration, etc. Call me old fashioned but I still think a person should be 21 to vote and there should be cut off dates on the registration and I mean longer than 1 day. Why not try at least 3 months like it was when I registered. Actually I almost didn’t get to vote my first election because my birthday was very close to deadline time. At the time June 30 was the cut off. Can you believe that? I don’t want to hear the old story about if a person is old enough to go to war etc that has kind of always been a problem, hasn’t it? I also am for putting a limit on the amount of time to campaign. 3-6 months max! Well, I better get off the soapbox now and get back to the current situation. The whole mess is pretty vulgar in my book. Are there no morals anymore?

      • jayhg

        Shut up you stupid birther……

        • binky354

          You’re on the wrong site to be telling me to shut up you sorry POS!

          • jayhg

            No I’m not. And you would not be calling for ways to disenfranchise people if your guy had won. You right wingers are so pathetic. Can’t win the usual way, by working hard. Noooooo, you have to try to turn the clock back to only being able to vote if you own property. Pathetic.

            • binky354

              You’re still a sorry POS and you’re ignorant and illiterate. Nowhere did I advocate having to own property to vote. You’re stupid as well.

              • jayhg

                …but no where near as stupid as you, you birther….I mean, right wing nut job birther….sorry, I didn’t mean to forget that part…won’t happen again.

        • beachnan

          Larry we really need to get rid of jayhg. Sharon just made a heartfelt comment about elections and this asshat calls her a birther. I really think we can do without his inane commentary.

          • binky354

            I think he was telling me to shut up – but I agree, it’s time for him to go. I don’t know where he came from but all he does is make stupid comments and doesn’t contribute anything.

          • jayhg

            Stop whining. So what if I disagree with you. Grow up and stop trying to get folks banned. You look weak.

  • jrterrier

    WTF, WTF.

    Now this, the general who is supposed to replace Petreaus in Afghanistan Gen. John R. Allen, was also obsessed with the Jill Kelley woman — sent her between 20,000 & 30,000 emails. Someone on this site recently mentioned the corrupting effects of a 12-year war. Well here it is, exhibit 2, exhibit 1 being Petreaus. Bring McCrystal back. At least he was honest & not screwing around.

    Seriously, so Jill Kelley receives 20 to 30,000 emails from a general but doesn’t rat him out; she receives a few questionable anonymous emails and tells her FBI friend & she is so enticing that the FBI friend then becomes obsessed with her & screws up his own career. This is becoming a very bad movie.

    Or perhaps it’s just human nature & war. Wasn’t Eisenhower rumored to have had an affair with his secretary.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/scandal-probe-ensnares-commander-of-us-nato-troops-in-afghanistan/2012/11/13/a2a27232-2d7d-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html

    • MG6

      On the other hand, is this all a set up to discredit the generals like they do in Venezuela, Russia, China and any other dictatorship?

    • randi

      So far….Jill Kelley, an unpaid unpaid, social, military liaison has taken down a CIA Director, the ISAF Commander General, an FBI special agent and Paula Broadwell. Impressive.

      • jrterrier

        unbelieveable. and just for conspiracy theorists — Kelley is of lebanese extraction.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Lebanese Christian extraction–this distinction is important. Hmmmm, who are the Lebanese Christians tied in with?

          • jrterrier

            Who?

            • HObama HObamanana

              I going to guess and say Assad.

    • HObama HObamanana

      At this point I would nominate General Hannibal Lecter.

    • akaPatience

      20-30,000 emails and DOCUMENTS. That could mean an email with 10 photos attached would equal 11 among the count. I don’t know, the WP (BTW uber liberal) article included claims that Gen Allen and Kelley didn’t have an affair and also that the number of emails and documents was exaggerated. I’m going to wait and see on this one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/je.colon.3 Je Colon

    Good article….but nothing will be done to this adminstration. They are thugs and thugs stay in power. Union leaders are thugs and I don’t see them going anywhere. As much as I want this man impeached for these things I hate to say that it will be impossible. Congress is nothing without the full control of the senate and since we have “blacks” in the intelligence department overseeing this scandal we will never hear the truth. I can see that bald headed black gentleman saying outloud behind the desk ” But, you can’t prove that the President knew this, huh?” Black intel will never see Obama for what he is- a thug

  • Popsmoke
  • getfitnow

    Michael Hastings ‏@mmhastings

    This is a powerful video of Allen giving speech to troops. “Now is the time to look deep inside your souls…” http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battle-rattle/2012/02/25/video-gen-john-allen-motivates-soldiers-after-deadly-attack-fueled-by-koran-burning/

    Video: Gen. John Allen motivates soldiers after deadly attack fueled by Koran burning

    February 25th, 2012

    ********************

    http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battle-rattle/2012/02/25/video-gen-john-allen-motivates-soldiers-after-deadly-attack-fueled-by-koran-burning/

    ===================

    Chris Geidner ‏@chrisgeidner

    RT @DianneG: @chrisgeidner Took 2 computers & half a dozen or so
    evidence boxes from home…. plus, who knows how many photos. @kjridley

    hris Geidner ‏@chrisgeidner

    Wow. RT @DianneG: my photog—> “@kjridley: A total of 10 FBI agents were at Broadwell’s home for about 4 1/2 hours. http://twitpic.com/bcsp0s

    ============================

    Rebecca Berg ‏@rebeccagberg

    This Senate Armed Services Committee hearing just got awkward…(h/t @BuzzFeedAndrew) http://www.armed-services.senate.gov/hearings

    /event.cfm?eventid=7ae425ba6ea916adbdef16c24f4594bf …

    http://www.armed-services.senate.gov/hearings/event.cfm?eventid=7ae425ba6ea916adbdef16c24f4594bf

  • getfitnow
  • getfitnow

    11/12/2012 @ 11:43PM

    FBI Search of Paula Broadwell’s Home Live-Tweeted by Local News Reporter

    ************
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkantrowitz/2012/11/12/fbi-search-of-paula-broadwells-home-live-tweeted-by-local-news-reporter

  • DianaLC

    Great summary of what’s behind all this mess. Maybe the Ariadne we’re looking for in this labyrinth is this ditzy sounding Broadwell. Now we just need some hero in Congress to take on the role of Theseus to get us through the maze of deceit and bring the truth back out to the light of day.

    • sowsear1

      I don’t think Broadwell is the ditzy one…look to Kelley, the unpaid social person.

  • jayhg

    Stop trying to make Benghazi happen Larry. It’s not gonna harm the president, but it IS making you look like a desperate fool. Also, where’s the whitey tape. Lets see it, okay?!

    • randi

      I’ll give you this – you are a hard worker – over 700 comments all over the Internet in the past few days. Your efforts at this blog to ridicule and discredit Larry and distract us from what happened in Benghazi ain’t working, Jayhg. The harder you (and others) try to deflect – the guiltier this Administration looks. A huge effort is being made for this cover-up. Starting with the ‘youtube video’. If you honestly believe there is nothing there – you would chill out and let the investigations prove you right. Instead, you are working feverishly (along with others) to ridicule, discredit, distract and dismiss. That’s interesting..to me.

      • DianaLC

        Exactly, I enjoy thinking of this moron as he/she/it moronically and maniacally types away in the WH basement and all he has is to try to descredit Larry by asking Larry to come up with something that Larry admitted long agao he DIDN”T have. No logic whatsoever in these bubble-headed obots.

        • HARP2

          The FBI recently posted jayhg`s picture but said not to worry since he dosen`t have the intelligence to be dangerous to nobody but himself.

          • jayhg

            No, that’s not me. I looked real close and it looks kinda like Larry. Wonder if the whitey tape is in than box where his computer is sitting.

      • jayhg

        If you want to give me something, make it the whitey tape……get Larry to give it to me already!

  • Scorpio

    ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT — The FBI probe into the sex scandal that led to the resignation of CIA director David Petraeus has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

    According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” e-mails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/scandal-probe-ensnares-commander-of-us-nato-troops-in-afghanistan/2012/11/13/7955fea4-2d54-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html

    • randi

      um…so, Jill Kelley (unpaid social liaison) reports anonymous emails to an FBI agent friend that is so determined to ensure those emails are investigated that he alerts Eric Cantor (House Majority Leader). FBI investigation of anonymous emails leads to uncovering an affair between Gen. Petraeus (scheduled to testify on the Benghazi incident) and his biographer Paula Broadwell (anti-terrorism professional). Classified information (not from Petraus) is found on her computer yet she is not arrested. The Washington Post is reporting today that the FBI has uncovered 20-30,000 pages of ‘potentially inappropriate’ communication between Jill Kelley and Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan. Phew! So, Jill Kelley takes the initiative to involve the FBI and never thought to clean her own computer???

      • randi

        The good news is that the ‘sex scandal’ aspect has awoken some of the comatose non-Fox News journalists..and the digging has begun in earnest. We may get to some answers..stay tuned! :)

        • KenoshaMarge

          Don’t expect the Obama Cockroach Media to report anything that connects Obama to the scandal. Liberal corruption is covered up by the corrupt media. As much as they can.

          Then there are liberals so stupid even the liberal media can’t cover their stupid ass. Anthony Weiner comes to mind.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Maybe she should change her last name to Kardashian.

      • randi

        The tally so far…..Jill Kelley, an unpaid unpaid, social, military liaison has taken down a CIA Director, the ISAF Commander General, an FBI special agent and Paula Broadwell.

        • mgm

          What needs to be done is to cut off these guys’ supply line of free Viagra.

  • akaPatience

    Larry, is there any likelihood the FBI would destroy evidence that incriminates Obama?

    • binky354

      I’m so pessimistic about the FBI I’d readily accept that they would destroy evidence incriminating to Obama and administration.

      • jayhg

        … because you’re desperate to believe anything you are told as long as its anti President Obama.

        • DianaLC

          If Obama looks like a duck and acts like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s hard to believe he’s not a duck. (Put any word you want into the noun place marker in my sentence–you know, the “duck.” )

          • KenoshaMarge

            So we have reached the point where wanting to know the truth is anti-Obama. Typical liberal bullshit! Just like not liking Obama policies are racist. Critical thinking is not their strong point. But then a liberal can’t help what it is.

          • jayhg

            Oh please. You sound alternately ignorant and demented.

            • DianaLC

              When a person whose brain stopped working long ago tells me I’m ignorant and demented, I can clearly see that he/she/it is speaking from his/her/its alternate mental world so I take it as a compliment. It must be a mold or fungal infection in your brain from all the Cheeto crumbs and and Kool Aid drippings that have built up in the dank and smelly basement of the WH.
              What rhymes with “duck” by the way? Can you answer that one?

              • jayhg

                Yes, you take that as a compliment. That’s what birthers normally do when they are bent on staying in their alternate universe -the one where President Obama will be frog marked out of THEIR white house….any….day…now.

                • DianaLC

                  I am not a birther—because I do believe O was born in Hawaii. However, I do believe he played the foreign student card during college. I do believe that if much of that type of information had been given out and had been transparent, some may have thought differently about voting for him in the first place because it does show his divided loyalties.
                  However, I do not believe that you are into rational discussion. You just want to annoy and call people names and pretend we are the haters.
                  So don’t expect that I will ever reply to you again except to hit the thumbs down arrow.

                  • jayhg

                    Nope…that foreign name thing means you ARE a birther!!! Use the voice Maury uses when he says “You ARE the father!”

                    • DianaLC

                      Last time I respond to you…..
                      I said nothing to you about his name. Heck, most everyone in the U.S. has a “foreign” name, as most of us are not Native Americans. I don’t know who in the heck you are referring to with this Maury guy.
                      But the facts are that for a long time before he was not in the national eye, he allowed his publicist to claim he was Kenyan born. That doesn’t mean he’s Kenyan born, it means he definitely lied for a long time…I believe it was over 16 years or so. Just recently, of course, his publicist had to come out and make up some excuse like it was the fact checker’s fault, though most budding authors would be looking at those press releases and wouldn’t have allowed it to say something false for so long.
                      Obama is a liar about many things, and I believe that he has gone on so long lying that even he is convinced he never lies because he’s not been made accountable. Eventually, however, all the people who have been lied to finally get enough and make the lying narcissist face the mirror.

                • http://twitter.com/mimimayesTN Mimi Mayes

                  Frog-marked?

            • KenoshaMarge

              Oh look, a talking cockroach. AKA as an obamacrat.

              • jayhg

                Oh my….yes, that does look familiar. I was checking on the intrawebs, checked the google for KenoshaMarge and VIOLA!!….that very image popped up. Thanks for confirming!!

                • KenoshaMarge

                  Oh my, a talking, stalking coackroach.

          • jayhg

            If you guys look like birthers/right wing nut jobs and sound like birther/right wing nut jobs, you might be, oh, I don’t know….birthers and right wing nut jobs!! Yawn…..that was easy….

            • DianaLC

              Wow! Those don’t rhyme with “duck” at all. Go back to kindergarten where you belong.

              • jayhg

                No those words don’t. Damn, do I have to tell you right wing nut job birthers EVERYTHING!

        • randi

          Of course there are some that want to believe anything anti-Obama as there are some that want to believe anything pro-Obama. Me, I just want to know what the heck is happening – the level of corruption in America is astounding. Most chilling is the level of acceptance of this corruption by so many citizens and so many members of the no-longer-free-press. Too many seem to excuse behavior by those they like and condemn that same behavior in those they dislike. I want the press to be free to question all authority and to report their findings without censure. That’s all. A free press uncovers stuff early and that protects us all. I believe that had there been a more balanced and honest reporting on the financial situation over the past ~10 years – we would have likely addressed our finances earlier. Ridiculing and dismissing those that were calling out the financial disaster was not helpful. As your approach is not helpful now. Let the investigations continue. We do need to know what is going. We do need to keep asking questions.

          • elizabethrc

            Well stated, randi. I fear that the free press have strayed so far from their historic mission that they’ll never come back. The only recourse is more conservative leaning outlets. Think about it: other than FOX, where can people go to view another opinion? The internet political sites, such as this attract a large audience, but it’s small in the scheme of things. Most people would rather watch a reality show, a football game or American Idol! Those are the ones who likely voted for Obama. someone once suggested to me that those with the least knowledge usually have the strongest opinions.

            • HObama HObamanana

              The problem with your suggestion is that the conservative media outlets have their biases too. So we would be merely substituting one bias for another.

              I prefer objective reporting and presentation of facts. And let adults make up their own minds where they stand.

              • jrterrier

                I think we are past objective reporting & there’s no way to squeeze the toothpaste back into the tube. The most we can hope for is biased reporting on both sides to counter each other & we get to sort out the truth.

                • HObama HObamanana

                  You are probably correct.

              • elizabethrc

                Yes, even FOX has a bias, but they at least are open about it. The msm keep protesting that they are unbiased, laughable on it’s face.
                At least FOX allows guests to get their points out there whereas the msm do not. They used their conservative guests for target practice and ridicule.
                Guess which ones demeans themselves.

            • jayhg

              Those with the least knowledge…..you mean you birther nuts who make shit up in your head and 3 minutes later, that made up crap is FACT………you mean THOSE folks with the least knowledge????

          • jayhg

            Nothing’s happening. You guys are just wishibng something was happening so you went from wishing to conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. So what else is new in birther world.

        • Popsmoke

          I am desperately wondering who signed that silly little presidential finding that is allowing the extremists in Libya to be armed and shipped to fight in Syria?

        • elizabethrc

          Yet another liberal incapable of honest assessment of this president. You’re on the wrong site because the conversation here has at least a modicum of intelligent thought behind it. Yours? Simpleminded trash talk.
          Move on. There’s nothing for you here and people won’t take you seriously.

          • jayhg

            There is not one person among you nuts who is even moderately intelligent enough to realize that your hatred of a man you don’t even know personally is pathetic and desparate.
            You guys don’t take me seriously…….as if I care. See, it’s because I am intelligent that I get that I didn’t like George Bush, but he wasn’t the antichrist, unAmerican or a dirtbag or moron. To me, he was just not the guy I wanted as president……that’s where it began and that’s where it ended for me. But you guys act as if President Obama kicked your puppy or something. It’s pathetic, and so I laugh at you and if anyone is not taken seriously, it’s you birthers.

            • elizabethrc

              Goodness me, where to begin?!! While not comparing Obama to Hitler, I didn’t personally know Hitler either. Is that your only requirement for a President?
              No, we don’t take you serously, nor will we. If you didn’t care so much what we think of you, why do you post over and over on a site where you add nothing to the discussion? I think you want very much to be liked and respected, neither of which is likely here.
              Few of us here liked GW, but we didn’t think of him as the antiChrist or unAmerican. Indeed, unlike your boy, we had no reason to doubt his loyalty to this country. Obama’s actions condemn him. His own writings condemn him. He stated in his book that if (paraphrasing – you DO know what paraphrasing means, I hope) if it comes to it, he’ll side with the muslims. I didn’t write that. HE wrote it.
              People like you, with no credible argument are so quick to name call. Birthers? Really?
              Never has a candidate for president been as un-vetted as Obama. How would you feel if it comes out (and I do not know if it will or not) that Obama doesn’t meet the Constitutional requirement to be president because of where he was born? Do you think that the guiding principles of that document should be forgotten just because of your particular candidate? What happens after Obama’s gone when someone LIKE a Hitler, who doesn’t meet those constitutional standards? Are you going to give him a pass, too? How very patriotic of you!
              This is my last post to you. I’ve wasted far too much time on your tripe.

        • binky354

          I’m not “desperate” to believe; I’m jaded. I’ve observed too much corruption this past decade to believe any government agency is about truth and honor.

          • jayhg

            No, I checked and you’re definitely desperate. If you weren’t, I could find post of yours talking about all the Bush II corruption as well during all the weapons of mass destruction crap. But there aren’t any. Wonder why???

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      No. They will follow the investigation where it leads.

      • getfitnow

        So when was Muller (sp) (head of FBI) obligated to have advised POTUS of the situation?

        • jrterrier

          By every account, Mueller is the last remaining honorable man in DC. He probably notified his boss, AG Eric Holder as soon as he was required to.

  • HARP2

    The FBI should be looking at Jarret`s computer.

  • akaPatience

    Larry, this makes me even angrier that the MSM willfully refuses to speculate and connect the dots. I can’t imagine they’d ignore the elephant in the room if a Republican were POTUS.

    • randi

      That is the most infuriating part of all of this. I understand many people don’t know much as they rely on the no-longer-free press that has done a great job of avoiding providing much of the news and truth. I do NOT understand journalists without any intellectual curiosity. If you question nothing – why would you even want to be in journalism??

      • getfitnow

        Yep. I thought the journalist’s job is to find out stuff and report it–to inform and protect the public Very few are doing their job.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Their “job” as they saw it was to get Obama re-elected. Now their job is to protect the POS they re-elected. Inform and protect the public? Surely you jest.

          • http://twitter.com/ChocChipsMusic The Chocolate Chips

            haven’t you guys noticed that the only people involved in this “scandal” so far are all Republicans? … Petraeus = Republican (have you already forgotten the old GOP fantasies about Petraeus as presidential candidate for the Republicans?) then we have two GOP congressmen who knew about this before the Election (including Eric Cantor!) … and it seems quite likely that Mitt Romney himself knew too.

            somehow you guys take all of this information and it leads you to back to President Obama… your judgment is seriously lacking. I bet you thought Romney was going to win the Election too?

            don’t you guys ever question your own wrongness? how many times can you be wrong before you realize that your way of thinking is screwy.

            • KenoshaMarge

              Stinking cockroach obamatroll is back. Someone get the bug spray.

    • HObama HObamanana

      If I am going to be angry about something it is that this sex scandal is being used to divert our attention away from what has really occurred. Every single media outlet is using this sex scandal as the headline. Not a real word about the Benghazi investigation other than how it is linked to who boinked whom, when and how often. And who knew about it and whom they told and why. All very intriguing mind you. But none of it explains why 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi.

    • http://twitter.com/ChocChipsMusic The Chocolate Chips

      yes! why won’t the media make up conspiracy theories like your favorite right wing bloggers?

  • Popsmoke

    How much you want to make a bet that Benghazi was a Petraeus fuck up? I have always had a COIN policy issue with the General….

    • randi

      If the Benghazi ‘incident’ were that simple, it is unlikely that Obama would have instructed his Administration to deceive and distract with a ‘youtube video’. The deflection by the administration and press is what set off this story. It just did not make sense.

      • getfitnow

        Did Obama trade Benghazi prisoners for Ambassador? Then bungle it?

        It’s horrible to th

  • HARP2

    Congress should be sending out subpoenas like Christmas cards.

  • Popsmoke

    What a mess…. now let’s see what happens….

    • elizabethrc

      I’m getting too old for this crap. I guess human nature will never change!

      • KenoshaMarge

        There will always be human beings with the moral fiber of mink. We all know some in our own community if we admit it. It’s only when we somehow expect those in leadership positions to be better that we are disappointed.

        And let’s face it, most Americans are only interested in the lurid details of sex scandals not scandalized or appalled by them. Our moral fiber as a country is no better than General Petraeus. So for the media to chase him and this story is just more hypocrisy.

        Most Americans will await those lurid details eagerly and have no idea of any further implications.

    • scottymac54

      I’m appalled at how this is being hyped and played out in the public square, before an impartial, fair investigation into the facts of these matters, has been pursued.
      I am hardly a Petraeus fan, but the only logical conclusion is that this administration’s opponents are willing to risk driving him to eat his gun, out of desperation and hopelessness…
      Would this be the final demented horror to the unhinged partisan hatreds that have rendered this nation unrecognizable to itself?
      This is not a movie. You couldn’t make this up, if you tried.

      • mgm

        So you have no problem with the CIA Director being involved in an affair that could very well jeopardize national security and probably already has done? It’s already been documented that Petraeus took his mistress on a trip to Paris paid for by us taxpayers. I don’t know about you, but that annoys me.

        An impartial fair investigation? Where do you expect that will come from…when the hearings are being held in secret? I agree that ungrounded idle speculation is unfair, but Petraeus himself has openly admitted the affair and intelligent human beings are nothing if not curious.

        Regardless of party affliiation, this is not the mayor of Desert Flatts under investigation. It’s the Director of the CIA whose judgment is appropriately being examined. Makes no difference whether he’s Democrat or Republican.

        • scottymac54

          “So you have no problem with the CIA Director being involved in an affair that could very well jeopardize national security and probably already has done?…”

          Absolutely not! It pales in comparison to the sort of sexual peccadilloes that occur, and will occur, constantly. It’s a pretext to discrediting this administration, and was only revealed once the much-heralded “landslide” failed to happen, the accusations of voter fraud were proven insufficient to overturn the election results, and it had become apparent that neither Barky nor Hillary could be held culpable for the Benghazi caper.

          Hillary warned of “a vast-right wing conspiracy” two decades ago, and this observation proved as prescient now, as did Eisenhower’s admonishment regarding the “military industrial complex”…

          Too many Americans have wised up. If there can be a “Fast and Furious”, obviously there can be a Libyan CIA op in which Stevens not only knew about, but facilitated, that resulted in shipping arms and militants to Syria for the next ill-fated military debacle, which is more a symptom of failed Western foreign policy in the Middle East, then anything else.

          God alone only knows what sort of torture domes will be uncovered in Libya, as having been administered to by our own forces.

          I can only imagine the automatic peals of wailing from the right, hurled at the “commies” and “terrorists”, who would have dared question similar stunts, by a Republican president’s administration.
          Yet I do not see voices on the left, who would be naturally predisposed to go after Petraeus on ideological grounds, making foolish statements or gunning their engines.
          Why?
          Because they get that there is no “there” there, neither from a moralistic, legal, or even national security perspective.
          Trying to make the Libyan scandals into more than they could ever have been, is in no small part, why the election results came out the way they did.

  • jrterrier

    Larry,

    This is from the Oct 26 report that FOX published. So it’s not clear that Boradwell’s comments about Lybian militia detainees at the CIA annex wasn’t from this report. She did refer to a Foxnews report:

    “The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi’s fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2C4n5gFUk

    • Nobody Special

      Broadwell indicated in the video that the attack on the “consulate” was because of the hostages at the annex.

      I understand what you’re saying, but if the hostages were the attackers? Then how does that square with the hostages being the reason for the attack in the first place?

      Also, LJ why do you think the FBI raided Broadwell’s house?

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        Looking for classified info.

        • Nobody Special

          LOL, thank you Captain Obvious

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      If the Fox report had come out a day earlier I’d agree with you. I doubt if she was glued to Fox or reading their website before giving her speech. It is possible, but not likely.

      • jrterrier

        She may have been trying to cover for the real source of her info, but in her tape, just before she mentions this point, she also mentions the FOX news reports.

        “Well, just to create some context for those in the room. As you know, the ambassaador in Benghazi was killed along with a couple of security agents who happened to be CIA security, paramilitary forces. That just came out today in Fox News.

        But the challenge has been the fog of war. And the greater challenge is that it’s political hunting season, and so this whole thing has been turned into a very political sort of arena, if you will.

        But the facts that came out today were that the ground forces there at the CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting reinforcements.

        They were requesting the, what’s called the CINC’s in extremis force — a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the consulate and the CIA annex that were under attack.

        Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.”

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          This may be the angle the FBI is investigating.

        • HObama HObamanana

          For someone that was supposed to be a military intelligence officer she is either very ignorant of certain well known facts or deliberately spinning a false storyline. I’m voting on the later.

        • jayhg

          Keep going with the conspiracy. In a minute, you’re going to start looking at your mother funny. If this. Maybe that. You guys crack me up!

    • HObama HObamanana

      That is the way I remember the initial reporting too. They captured some of their attackers and were holding them at the Annex. But after that the story just disappeared until a convenient rewrite by Broadwell and now FOX.