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Was Jill Kelley an Agent of Access for Foreign Intelligence

By Larry Johnson on November 13, 2012 at 9:50 PM in Current Affairs

UPDATE: Larry is on John Batchelor’s Show live in a few minutes — about 10 minutes from now (9:57 ET).

The story of Jill Kelley is especially curious. She is not your typical suburban mom. In fact, the picture emerging of Jill, who is a Lebanese Catholic and first generation American, is very curious. When her name was first bandied about over the weekend she was portrayed as “State Department’s Liaison to JSOC.” I knew right away that was total horesshit. Why? I have firsthand knowledge that State Department does not have a liaison officer assigned to JSOC. To label her with that is very odd.

Now we are told that Kelley was “unofficial social liaison to U.S. Central Command.” That is odd too. CENTCOM, to my knowledge, has never advertised such a position. What did Kelley do? She regularly hosted parties/dinners and social events for General Officers assigned to CENTCOM and SOCOM. Both commands are located on MacDill Air Force Base.

Last night we learned that General Allen, who has spent time at CENTCOM, was under investigation for his email exchanges with Kelley. What the hell is going on?

Let me suggest one possible and interesting hypothesis–Was Jill Kelley an Access Agent for a Foreign Intelligence organization? An “Access Agent” is someone an intelligence organization recruits for the purpose of arranging meetings with people that have access to intel you want. An “Access Agent” may or may not be witting of what they are doing. What do I mean?

The person may not realize that he or she is working for a foreign intelligence organization. They might be led to believe they are working for a business or a charitable organization. They might be persuaded they are working for a particular country they favor, say Israel, when the actual organization running the op is actually Russian.

Are you catching my drift?

So, we have at least two possibilities.

Scenario One–Jill Kelley is a good hearted ingenue who, out of love for her country, wanted to provide friendship and food to our soldiers, sailors and marines. She just happened to like to focus on Generals and Admirals.

Scenario Two–Jill Kelley is an unwitting “Access Agent” being used by a foreign intelligence organization to collect strategic and tactical intelligence on senior U.S. military commanders responsible for CENTCOM or SOCOM. Her mission was simple–strike up and maintain a personal relationship with these commanders and their families.

I don’t mean to suggest these are the only possibilities, but they are sure worth thinking about. More importantly, this could explain why the FBI is investigating this matter so aggressively. It ain’t about email, it is about counter intelligence.

  • Dissentispatriotic

    Pardon my ignorance, but I can’t figure how she is wrapped up in the Petraeus/Broadwell matter. Why would she have been on the receiving end of harsh emails from Broadwell? Are those two tied together in any way? If we, who read NQ regularly, are having trouble following this thread as it unravels, the public at large will quickly lose interest if they can follow the dots.

    • jrterrier

      No way. The public & the media are following this because of the salacious details.
      The story line is that Broadwell perceived that Kelley was her replacement, the new object of P4′s amorous attention.

      • Hokma

        What I find interesting that all of this is suddenly brought to light the day after the election and at a time when hearings were to happen concerning Benghazi.

        illicit sex inside the beltway is not uncommon and not unknown. And it is used when politically opportune.

        Suddenly Patraeus cannot testify and Hillary can’t testify because she is at a wine tasting.

        This is clearly Obama denying a delaying the truth about Benghazi.

        Eventually the truth will catch up to Obama.

        • elijahzabmom

          Well I don’t believe the truth will ever catch up to Obama.

          • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

            Maybe not, but karma will. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

        • jayhg

          here we go…….desperation to tie this to President Obama. Give it a rest already. You’re embarassing yourself.

          • mergeright

            And just who is responsible for the government then?

            • wylrae

              Good question! If I were to hazard a guess I would say maybe some jidhadist organization in the ME that has ties to the administration. Farfetched? Probably but then who really knows. A while back I would have said Soros and that still maybe true.

          • JohnnyTwoDog

            I though you left to ask Beckel about a video tape.

    • TeakWoodKite

      At somepoint Broadwell met the Kelley’s. If she was a trained intel officer…basic suspisions / alarms would be set off for the very reason Larry highlights. I do not know the ins and outs of who is who but Broadwell should have as LArry and others in the field do…
      Someone is lying and someone is playing dumb to avoid being busted as a spy, who is in VERY close contact with with some VIPs… I want to know if Valerie Jarrett knew her in Chicago….

  • jrterrier

    One of the stories mentioned that Kelley knew the FBI agent from a previous interaction with him. Was Kelley working as confidential information or source for the FBI as a result of a prior criminal investigation against her or her husband?

    • sowsear1

      And weren’t the Kelley’s short of money…up a financial river?

  • jrterrier

    Would explain Broadwell’s father comment to the media that this was all a smoke screen for something bigger & that he stood by his daughter.

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Three observations:

    1. Access agents are not necessarily just used for intelligence. The are also used to provide access to those who can be used to achieve covert action objectives, particularly influence operations. As targets rise in position in government, they often become more influence assets than foreign intelligence access.

    2. Broadwell dabbled in the intelligence and security millieu. When she emailed Kelley “I know what you’re doing,” was she referring to Kelley’s access agentship?
    3. It sure was smart and disciplined of Petraeus to not have an adulterous relationship with Broadwell prior to his retirement from the Army. Otherwise, he might’ve been subject to prosecution for violation of Article 134 of the UCMJ. The temptation to enter into such a relationship when Petraeus was in Afghanistan away from house and home and in daily close contact with Broadwell must’ve been very strong. Of course, that would’ve been illegal under the UCMJ.
    But all of that having been said, I, along with most Americans, can’t help but wonder: How did Petraeus and Broadwell like to do it?

    • jrterrier

      1) can we believe that Petraeus’ relationship didn’t start until after he left the army? or is he just trying to play the media?
      2) answer to your last question, “all in”

      • MarkFtLaud

        Yes. He violated military regs. We will see if he has honor left when he must testify very soon. guess the corrupted ones will push this for awhile.

        • scottymac54

          Military regs, almost always otherwise disregarded….

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        It started in Afghan. Refered to a as a well understood secret wink wink. Redefines embedded.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Question , Doesn’t the access agent work both ways? A known known? I wonder what connections to Syria, even by degree is in play ….

      • MarkFtLaud

        Absolutely Teak. She spoke the language. My guess “pilllow talk”.

        • TeakWoodKite

          Can you imagine the conversation between Broadwell and Petreaus?
          Broadwell, from what I can tell, was warning the generals about the potential “risks” and now she is the one getting hammered? Ironic.

          • MarkFtLaud

            Teak. Couple of points. One for Larry’s line: what if Paula knew what Kelley does? my guess Petdick “continues to help Mrs. Broadwell (as reported) on her PD is to keep a pre-army affair guiet. He is a dog and just one of many; PC generals.

            • TeakWoodKite

              naw mate just missing the brass ring and a “trophy” wife.

              • MarkFtLaud

                Yeah your right. Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely. Shame. Lance Obama and this and more to come. We Americans after last election may have lost the Republic. Time will tell. We will start again. Not sure. Plato said when the 49 percent goes to 50 with Dole republic gone. We are almost there. Shame just 250 years for us.

                • TeakWoodKite

                  There is a figurehead of a Phenoix carved in my bow.

    • MarkFtLaud

      Under the desk. For the life of me Retired how and where? Jeez, he was the D of CIA…you cant just go to a Motel 6. I also think unfortunately, this started way back…

    • beachnan

      Someone was on Fox today-McFarland? She stated when she visited Afghanistan and Patreus was still in the military, it was rumored that he was having an affair with Broadwell. So, he may very well have been in violation of that article. Funny how she and others knew about the affair, but our President had no clue. Clueless?

    • Popsmoke

      Access agents are also used domestically by our own folk…..

  • jrterrier

    WTF to the nth degree. Gen Petreaus & Gen Allen each wrote a letter on behalf of Kelley’s sister, Natalie in support of Natalie’s custody battle over Natalie’s child. The allegations were that Natalie was an unfit mom & court awarded primary custody to the father. Do you know how bad a mother you have to be to lose primary custody. And these two generals sent letters on Natalie’s behalf to the court in Sept 2012???

    WHAT? what is the head of the CIA and the soon-to-be general in charge of Afghanistan doing sending letters in a personal custody battle. WHAT? http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/battle_john_allen_also_helped_jill_YjkEYUNY2INC4smBMEYqUI

    How close were these people?

    • scottymac54

      THIS is where they might be screwed, if these reports prove to be true. They’d be shown to be acting in concert, which would open up a can of worms the panel would ordinarily choose to leave undisturbed.
      Not to dabble in the sordid tabloid aspects that are on the table, but, the American people will tolerate extracurricular sex, “mistresses”, etc….but if it is revealed that there were instances of “swapping”, group sex in multiple variations, rituals, etc., all bets are off, the public will rise up at disgust on their dime, no matter who set it all up.
      Still won’t affect the president, though. There’s no linkage, no intentions, no participation.

      • TeakWoodKite

        “Still won’t affect the president, though. There’s no linkage, no intentions, no participation”

        ROLF… The president would rather watch an episode of “Homeland” instead of doing his job.

        • scottymac54

          Perhaps! But I’ve evolved on how concerned, or unconcerned, about what Barky does on his free time, given the cold splash of reality at what this nation just dodged.
          I’ll still continue to criticize him when it’s called for, but I’m a lot more jaded and cynical about the motivations of those for whom, Obama bashing has become a raison d’etre.
          For the time being, at least nominally, he has my support.

          • TeakWoodKite

            good luck with that.

            • scottymac54

              Thanks….it’s a question of making the best of an adverse situation, and hoping that Hillary will have the strength to emerge unscathed for 2016….
              It was the response to the storm, and what I saw unfold, right here in my backyard, that solidified my focus, and brought it all down to the local level.
              I couldn’t go on, in a spirit of bitterness, and being part of the problem.

              I forced myself to grow, and adapt, when I saw so much suffering. I needed to get back to a milieu where I could at least try to make a difference.

              • beachnan

                Sorry Scotty, you got played.

                • scottymac54

                  Not at all. I didn’t vote for a losing candidate, who wasted all that money, claiming he could “straighten” our economy out!
                  I saw a marked improvement in Obama’s performance for a six-month period, prior to the election. At the same time, I saw the negative comments from opposition blogs become more baseless and rooted in a highly personalized form of anger and hatred I no longer could relate to, as I felt Barky was doing the best he could with what he had.
                  Finally, I followed the Romney campaign carefully, and concluded that he just wasn’t right, now, or ever (I’d reached the same conclusion about Barky, four years earlier).
                  I continued to read articles and opinions from these types of blogs, even though the writers’ judgements no longer jibed with the reality on the ground, and I realized the unchallenged statements, unrealistic projections for absolute victory, and the quality of reasoning had long since gone over the top, much as I’d seen at DU, Wonkette, MR, Kos, Slate, etc., so I moved in this direction, that proved to be right, for all the wrong reasons.
                  When Hillary began to be demonized, it almost felt as though the partisan circle had been completed, and the illusion of support for the Clintons, that had felt like a cup of hot chocolate after 2008, had totally disintegrated, and I realized I no longer had hope for Republican politics in general.
                  So, I went back, like so many others who commented here, just because it’s the only hope for progress and economic stability, where the “other” is not always Satan, where social justice and self-criticism aren’t forbidden concepts.
                  I hope I’m right.

                  • beachnan

                    No your guy is just a loser and therefore, we all lost. Voter fraud and cheating won the day for Obama. You were looking for a reason to vote Obama. You are a liberal and the storm gave you a perfect excuse to say he acted like a leader. It was a photo-op and nothing else.

                    • scottymac54

                      Look, today Paul Ryan told Obama he won, fair and square…who, actually, would have to come down from on high, that you’d trust to accept the truth? Which is, there was minimal voter fraud that simply wasn’t enough to sway the vote, in the other direction.

                      In truth, I knew it was over, the day Mitt admitted to the “47%” sentiment, without immediately expressing remorse for it

                    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

                      I don’t know what Paul Ryan did or did not say nor do I care. If I were a public figure with a wife and family to be threatened, not to mention, Romney’s got to know that his challenging the election results could start riots and a civil war, what any mainstream GOP person says publicly about election results doesn’t really mean diddly squat.

                    • scottymac54

                      Fortunately, this election has rendered the entire American right irrelevant, regardless of whether they are “mainstream” or not.

                    • HObama HObamanana

                      Mitt spoke the truth about the 47% so there was no reason to be remorseful. You know, the question asked before he responded (the context of the matter) was never exposed. I wonder why?

                  • jrterrier

                    “marked improvement” in the last 6 months? are you kidding? he was copying Mitt Romney, just as he did to Hillary at the end of the primaries in 2008.
                    But really, why would you believe anyone who changes his tune just before election time?

                    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

                      Obama didn’t improve, the media and various reporting agencies faked, fudged and falsified numbers as well as buried stories to help Obama win. We’ll see gas prices and unemployment going up very soon now.

                    • HObama HObamanana

                      Potty-crack is just a liar. He never was not for Obama. Not even once.

                    • scottymac54

                      Because he never really goes off campaign mode….it’s just been continuous, and I take that into account.
                      His opponent wasn’t really any better, which was invaluable to me in research….I was able to see almost a dozen different versions of the man, and match up what positions he used, while he portrayed each one!
                      I had also taken that personality trait into account, when weighing the viability of a Romney presidency, several months earlier.
                      I was anxious to make my vote count for something real, and to send a strong message that at least reflected my basic principles.
                      The administration’s response to the hurricane in my state more or less sealed the deal. I’ve never seen such a rapid, cooperative response to any disaster in my life.

                  • randi

                    This must be the new effort to try and convince people to ‘come back’.

              • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Larson-Gonzales/708649430 Sandy Larson- Gonzales

                Jesus, I don’t know you, but are you for real?

                • HObama HObamanana

                  No.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Absolutely right potty-crack. None of these folks work for the President. He didn’t have a thing to do with placing them in positions of power so none of this can touch him. Glad you have that vision thing.

        • shelldoll2

          Exactly. This is a POTUS who knew nothing, knows nothing now, is responsible for nothing and yet he’s “improving things”.

          Don’t you kinda have to have a clue about what’s going on around you to accomplish anything? Or will blissful ignorance carry you through?

          I see how this works. Obama floats above the fray with his unicorns and rainbows. Then, suddenly, magically he waves his hand and all is well. Does any of this sound familiar? 2008 redux.

          • HObama HObamanana

            Unfortunately it all sounds too familiar. But it is the typical Obama modus operandi. Remember when he used his chairmanship of the NATO subcommittee as proof that he had foreign policy experience? Then it was discovered that he not not convened a single meeting. His excuse? I was too busy campaigning. And the media smiled, nodded their heads and moved on. As if nothing was wrong.

            Obama is the Commander in Chief that is not responsible for the actions of his subordinates, even those that he picked to be in those positions of power. The very first in American history. And our nation is not outraged?

    • TeakWoodKite

      Swingers?

      • sowsear1

        See Jill, her husband, and Mrs. Petraeus. Guess which one is Jill…

        • TeakWoodKite

          :) lol

        • http://www.facebook.com/margaret.maree Margaret Maree

          Is that a Victoria’s Secret nightgown she’s wearing, or a slip?

          • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

            That “dress” is really scary…no bra either. Eeuw. Her machine gun-like arms make me wonder if she’s some sort of military trained spy.

        • jrterrier

          “tilty-head” thing (putting in quote because i’m steeling from another blog). in every picture Jill & her sister are doing the tilty-head thing.

    • MarkFtLaud

      Read about her. She is a nut job like her sister.

      • jrterrier

        You bet. the twins are both crazy. DId you hear the 911 tape where she calls because there’s someone on her lawn and tells the 911 operator that she has consular protection.

        • MarkFtLaud

          Jrterrier. Even better one on internet. She is a status ego driven social climber that has bankrupt her family -4M. Even house in foreclosure. She will cash out in Movie.

          • TeakWoodKite

            “The Kelley family has hired attorney Abbe Lowell, who represented John Edwards,
            and crisis manager Judy Smith, who worked for Monica Lewinsky.”

            Link

            • MarkFtLaud

              Right Teak. Movie man. Unless jail.

            • mergeright

              ROFL! So she’s a democrat and a moron.

  • Theymustbemorons

    Very, very interesting stuff, Mr. J. Jennifer Griffin, on the Shep Smith broadcast right now, has just raised the possibility that the reason the FBI (which has originally said the investigation was complete), is now saying it’s an ongoing investigation, is that they might be looking into the possibility that a “foreign entity” might be involved.

    • MarkFtLaud

      God knows. If I were a foreign entity I would be in balls up…oops…how about I restate as “all in”.

  • jrterrier

    Look at the NY Post article. They are reporting ties between Natalie Khawam & DEM fundraising. Why would these 2 men involve themselves in a custody dispute relating to Jill Kelley’s sister? Their letters indicate only limited contact with Natalie Khawam. Why would these two high-profile men involve themselves in such a messy issue. BAD JUDGMENT with capital letters.

    “And in court documents filed by Kelley’s sister Natalie Khawam, she name-drops both Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island — who both have ties to a Providence, RI, lawyer/lobbyist who loaned a whopping $300,000 to Khawam.

    Khawam claimed in a July 12 letter to her estranged husband that she took their son “on vacation last year to Martha Vineyard,” where their son and “I had a great time at the DSCC [Democratic Senate Campaign Committee] event.”

    Of course, according to the NYPost the judge in the custody dispute also found that Natalie Khawam “lied repeatedly under oath.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/battle_john_allen_also_helped_jill_YjkEYUNY2INC4smBMEYqUI/1

  • mergeright

    If the original ‘threatening emails’ did not result in a criminal offense, what justification is there for continuing to investigate private emails? Wouldn’t that require a warrant? Who is this Jill Kelly and why does she have such power over top officials?

    • MarkFtLaud

      exactly. WTF is going on.

      • mgm

        Suspected breaches of national security.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Legal gobbledygook explaining how the FBI proceeded.

      • mergeright

        Thank you.

        From the article:
        “In order to get the content of the email, the stuff you write in the body of an email, the FBI needs a judge to issue a warrant, which requires that old chestnut, probable cause.”

        What probable cause was there in the emails Jill Kelley had received?

        And even more intriguing, what judge granted access based on a “stay away from my guy” sternly worded email?
        Rights of privacy aside, perhaps our top secret, secret CIA and military should text and delete rather than put everything in written, verifiable, and traceable communication.

        All of this is very Twighlight Zone-esque.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Totally agree with your last sentence. It seems likely to me that the communications that were suspicious will never be revealed because they expose something the Administration doesn’t want the public to know about. It’s not something that can be blamed on Bush.

        • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

          Wrong. I will explain in my post…

          • mergeright

            Thanks, jbjd. The manner in which this was all exposed is just so curious. Thank you for your effort to make some sense of it.

      • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

        ‘Legal’ info is wrong; although this is perhaps understandable, given the fact, it appears to be based only on the author’s speculation as to the FBI’s authority, and not on the news.

        Am putting up a post shortly…

        • HObama HObamanana

          Great, thanks!

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  • foxyladi14

    food fr thought

  • exmaple

    She may just be an eager social climber.

    • mergeright

      Hard to conceive of a socialite having the sway to persuade not only top military, but FBI, Senators, and legal representatives.

      • exmaple

        hmm..I agree! Fresh from the Washington Post:

        “A military officer who is a former member of Petraeus’s staff said Kelley was a “self-appointed” go-between for Central Command officers
        with Lebanese and other Middle Eastern government officials. She was a fixture at social and charity events involving Central Command officials
        in Tampa.

        The officer said Kelley’s presence was often a bit
        puzzling to Petraeus’s staff, but the officer said there was never any indication that her relationship with the general was anything more than social.

      • sowsear1

        And Kelley sister’s being invited to Petraeus’s house for Christmas…with her child..so they could see what a good mother she is.
        Holly Petraeus must be deaf,. dumb and blind!

      • JohnnyTwoDog

        Not really. They are all amoral whores.

  • sowsear1
  • http://www.facebook.com/je.colon.3 Je Colon

    If men would learn to not marry in their early years and try a few women before they commit themselves to one, maybe, things like this cheating would not happen. Second, if women would present themselves cute and sexy for their husbands all the ‘time’ this type of cheating behavior would not happen to them. I am sorry to say but looking at his wife and then looking at that bombshell that he cheated with- what do you expect? Can’t blame the man. He probably was seduced and didn’t realize that he was being seduced by a snake who wanted information. Once he found that the snake “probably ” told him that she wasn’t serious about him, he ran to his best friend “the wife”, and hope she stand by him after having his pants down. Larry, good story,,,,

    • sowsear1

      Are you kidding, seduced?

      • scottymac54

        No, the only way I could see these extracurricular activities affecting his performance in that role, is that he might find himself acting a bit more decisively, and aggressively, feeling less disheartened about neglected aspects of his personal life.
        In that case, I’d suspect someone within our own command structure, far more than solely abroad, or elements within our structure, in conjunction with foreign nations.
        The election results would provide a motive for this, and there are no shortage of partisans and other operatives, within or without, to drive this administration into chaos.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      You are an amoral idiot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/margaret.maree Margaret Maree

    A jogger discovered Paula Broadwell’s driver’s license in Rock Creek Park. As if there weren’t enough loose threads to ponder…

    • exmaple

      …Rock Creek Park—Chandra Levy?

      • MarkFtLaud

        yes. but this was as they say just “sex in da park”.

        • TeakWoodKite

          dead drop gone bad?

          • MarkFtLaud

            Haha. Not funny. She is just a cheater in this sordid drama. Hope her hubbie Scott kicks her to curb as Holly P should and Scott Kelley should

            • TeakWoodKite

              I hope he forgives her. And calls a cab.

              • MarkFtLaud

                Maybe he is like our political and military leaders a cuckold? Hope Doctor Broadwell is not a pussy. I need a HERO in this farce!

              • MarkFtLaud

                And the same holds true for P’s wife. Enough. She is 60 and can move on. All terrible.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Link?

    • MarkFtLaud

      thats where she put her boardback down with David.

      • sowsear1

        No, that was under a desk…

        • MarkFtLaud

          Sowsear2. I still can’t figure where and when. 10′s of people must know for years. Can’t just go to Motel 66.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Only at Motel 1600.

            • MarkFtLaud

              Funny thing Teak. 1600 knew all this already long time ago. Just Chicago Politics my guess. Corrupt. Shame on us.

  • sowsear1
  • sowsear1

    Petition signers threatened with loss of citizenship and exile:
    (What country is this again?)

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/wh-petition-calls-stripping-citizenship-and-exile-anyone-who-signs-petition-secede_663282.html

    • jrterrier

      Right, because the President’s Executive Order trumps the First Amendment, which guarantees our right to petition the government and to freedom of speech.

    • Hokma

      Actually none of those online petitions carry any weight. So it’s just a lot of ranting.

      • sowsear1

        Threats, but scary anyway.

      • stodghie

        hokma i remind you that oak trees from lttle acorns grow. the level of discontent is showing up everywhere.

        • Hokma

          I was only referring to all those online petitions.

          • stodghie

            yes i know. i don’t think anything serious will necessarily come from online petitions. however i think it does represent the growing disconnect, anger, and building decision by many this has gone too far and has to end. hence my my comment about the acorn and the tree.

            for dc to ignore what we the people say they do at their own peril.

          • stodghie

            yes i know hokma. i don’t expect much from online petitions. however i made the comment as i believe it is a manifestation of the growing discontent and desire for this nightmare to end in this country. we have a growning anger and determination not to lose our country growing in the population. hence my comment about the acorn and the tree.

      • DianaLC

        Texas met its required number of signers. That means, supposedly, that O must give an answer. We all know that’s another rule he won’t follow, as he (I believe) set this up as a PR device. However, there is now a petition by someone in Austin to be allowed to stay in the union if Texas is allowed to secede. I signed the one for CO last night and since then there have been over 2,000 more signing. I noticed that SC and Missouri (I believe) have almost reached their magic number. But I just checed the two petitions about deporting people who sign do not have very many signatures at all, at least right now.

        When everyone was really angry with GW, was there this much concern about our country and this much dissent? I do believe it’s a lot of ranting but it’s not doing much for O’s PR.

        • sowsear1

          Perry says noway will they leave the USA

          • stodghie

            perry has swung both ways. my guess is if things go south, which they will, he’ll sing another song.

          • DianaLC

            As I wrote, I know this is not going anywhere, but I like that so many are voicing their frustrations with this administration so publicly. Perry also said he understood and sympathized with the frustrations the petitioners.

  • elizabethrc

    This whole mess is curiouser and curiouser! What General has time to send out 20-30,000 emails? Was he on extended vacation? Why wasn’t he doing his job?
    Will Petraeus testify or not? Now that we know Hillary can’t make it because she is going to be socializing with friends in Australia, we get an idea of just how important the administration thinks all of this is. Oh, and apparently we’re going to be grace for 4 more years with Holder’s presence as AG/
    Nothing Obama is going to do is going to change things for the better for the average working American. I say “working” because he’ll certainly pour more freebies to his no account constituents who would rather take than work an honest job.
    Neither of these two military men have a vestige of personal integrity. They may be considered military heroes, but those are two completely different scales on which to weigh the measure of a man (or woman).

    • jrterrier

      Here you go. Some people will benefit from the Pres’ policies: http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

      • akaPatience

        OMFG. What a joke.

      • mgm

        And they want to cut Medicare and “revise” social security. Words fail…..

    • MarkFtLaud

      David our dear favorite General no more will be legally reguired to show up even thou he wishes not to due to the “circus” as he says. I asked my family that includes a 3 star and Officers of Merit why our Military leadership did not fall on their swords from reducing the Navy, AF and Army to all this shit. Sorry to say they told me what I already knew. The Military leadership is all PC. And our buddy Petdick was not all that special.

    • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

      Both Secretary of Defense Panetta and Secretary of State Clinton are in Australia “for annual defense talks aimed at deepening military and political cooperation between the two nations.”

      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/clinton-panetta-visit-australia-for-defense-talks-2012-11-13

      • elizabethrc

        I read that she was visiting old friends. Maybe she’s doing both!.
        Let’s see if when she comes back, she actually appears for testimony. She’s got a lot to lose.

        • mgm

          What does she have to lose? She’s getting out of politics. Anyone who thinks she will run in 2016 needs a reality check. There will be all sorts of young Turks like Andrew Cuomo who want the job. Why should she put herself through the meatgrinder of Washington politics again? She owes the Democrats nothing!

          • elizabethrc

            Name me one high level politician who isn’t concerned about his or her legacy. THAT’s what she has to lose. As to 2016, I think the woman is frankly exhausted. After all, she’s pretty much run this country’s foreign affairs single handedly, what with Obama’s lack of experience of knowledge and lack of interest .

      • HObama HObamanana

        I think that Clinton went there to watch the Eclipse. She’s trying to get used to the idea of what her political future will be.

    • shelldoll2

      Four stars don’t do their own correspondence. Ever. They have secretaries and aides for that. . Evidently he had his own separate computer/account and let his staff do the rest.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Let’s hope so. Having someone else do your phone sex emailing for you is just plain tacky.

        • shelldoll2

          LOL!

  • Popsmoke

    Good heavens ..

  • sowsear1
    • jrterrier

      Not to worry, the President will stop in Israel on the way back.

      • Hokma

        But only for a cup of coffee or maybe never.

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          maybe he’ll bend over at the wall and kiss his own ass.

          • JohnnyTwoDog

            the ultimate narcissist, he who cannot resist kissing his own ass.

            • HObama HObamanana

              Probably slips it the tongue as well.

            • sowsear1

              BO loves BO

      • sowsear1

        Can’t stop there now…bombing going on.

  • jrterrier

    CNN is reporting that a Broadwell anonymous email went to Gen Allen warning him off Jill Kelley. And that Gen Allen then let Jill Kelley know about the email.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Beggin’ your pardon but Google has just informed me that a famous porn star has that name as well and rates higher than the “unnoffical” socialite. You sure the good General didn’t have a fan club going for the troops?

      I was looking for “Jill Kelly’s husband”…. go figure….

  • sowsear1
    • TeakWoodKite

      This women thinks she has some type of diplomatic status?
      Were ever would she get that “notion”?

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        Perhaps from her license plate, which begs the question: For what foreign protecting power is she an Honorary Consul? Normally, Honorary Consuls with such license plates are non-US citizens living in the United States who are temporarily (as opposed to career) appointed to the Consular Service of their country of citizenship to perform some consular role in the protection/servicing of citizens of their country who are in their geographic area of jurisdiction within the U.S. This bears more research, as someone had to sign the application to get her that license plate. Who might that have been?

        • TeakWoodKite

          Thanks Retired…to bad I don’t have someone like Brennan who can go snooping in someones Visa info… Why would Rep Peter King say he met Kelly at a British Embassey several times? Why would he need to get in front of it?

          If she is a passive asset then who was been playing her? If she is a NOC for a foriegn gov which one?
          Why do I get such a wafting smell of “Ode de Joanne Herring”?

      • buzzlatte3

        From Valerie Jarrett who thinks she’s the president?

    • jrterrier

      So which one is the crazy twin? Maybe both?

  • sowsear1
  • MarkFtLaud

    Larry, my guess she is both scenario 1 and 2. Family is broke. I bet she received a check or two from a few ME countries. I cannot fathom 20,000 – 30,000 emails with Allen. God knows about the sex angle. I really don’t care besides broken honor and vows. This story is ugly and getting worse by the day. Kelley’s sister is a nut case. By the way, why and how….Congressman King of NY even knows Kelley. Said he met her 1 or 2 times a the British Embassy. WTF? What the fuck is going on. How nice there will be no leaders in Washington for the hearings Thursday. Hillary bitch is in Aust. “visiting friends and drinking wine”. Oh my God. Defense secty absolutely overseas. POTUS going on vacation and out of town. This Kelley smells, looks and acts like a honeypot. Maybe it is all cuckold God knows at this point.

    • MarkFtLaud

      On second thought about the agent scenario and i think she is just naive and stupid. She may or may not be sleeping around but I think she craves status and yaks alot about all she knows ….. an inavertant agent. Agent none the less. A crass social climber is has bankrupt her family and maybe more bads things ….

    • getfitnow

      Honeypot?

      • MarkFtLaud

        Old intell word used for female agents that use sex. KGB were pros at this. It continues to this day.

        • JohnnyTwoDog

          The Romans were good at it too. And before them, the Greeks used boys.

          • MarkFtLaud

            Johnny; I’m sure boys, girls and God knows continues. Kelley probably gave intel to Foreign countries thru stupidity and ego. She is a social climbing and trash. Sorry to say. Actually all of them for breaking honor and vows are trash.

            • JohnnyTwoDog

              That is all so true. God help us all.

              • MarkFtLaud

                Yes. I was in shock after 11-2 (moochelles date). Even thought about reversing my 3 flags. No way. We continue and honor. Don’t give up. I’m 53 and I aint.

        • Fred82

          The MSS and DGI aren’t too bad either.

          Tourist hotels in Cuba are known to contain swallows nests and I have heard a few stories of visiting US military personnel being met by Chinese welcoming committees that included prostitutes.

          • MarkFtLaud

            Jeez! Good one Fred and true. When u mentioned Cuba. I thought of the Ranchro I will buy on SW coast when they are free. Good opportunites

            • JohnnyTwoDog

              I have the same plan. Lets try to keep it secret.

              • MarkFtLaud

                Sorry. We all in South Florida (4m+) have the secret. Still cheap.

      • jrterrier

        Love Winnie the Pooh & Piglet.

  • Popsmoke

    Well I can bet the FBI ain’t looking to good right now and this so-called agent whistleblower looks like the fool…

    • jrterrier

      Does Broadwell have any obligation as a reserve army officer to grant permission to FBI to search her home? Does she face disciplinary action if she doesn’t?
      Newsreports say the search of her home last night was consensual. At this point, if I were her, I wouldn’t consent to any more intrusions into her privacy.

      • Popsmoke

        Her lawyer more than likely gave the nod and no if the FBI comes knocking you have a right to refuse unless they have a search order…

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    Larry, exactly what I was thinking even before I saw she was foriegn born. She and her husband heavily in debt and a cinch to compromise. The soirées they threw were an intelegence hunters paradise.
    This is going to turn into the biggest National security breech of all time. All falling to traps older than civilization. Send the pretty girl to lure the big egos into telling all. What dopes.
    And the WH knew of Patraeus’s philandering before he became CIA director. They need people they can control and manipulate.

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    There has to be a lot of misinformation being pumped and leaked to cover tracks. It is a task to filter.

    • TeakWoodKite

      lots of moving parts….

  • sowsear1
    • akaPatience

      Thanks for the link. It’s good to know we’re not alone in how we feel about the pathetic state of our union.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      “Is there one honest person in Washington left?”
      NOPE.

  • sowsear1
    • jrterrier

      That investigation had been ongoing for some time. From what I had read, this was just out and out theft (or embezzlement).

      • randi

        Yeah, so instead of firing him for theft..we just take one star. Keeps health plan and pension for life? Not like a 4 star General is an authority figure or role model or anything.

        • jrterrier

          you are right. anyone of us would be charged with theft of govt property or embezzlement & be looking at a felony & prison time.

  • MarkFtLaud

    God HelpUS

  • Fred82

    Well……

    If this was an intelligence operation, any ideas on potential suspects?

    • HObama HObamanana

      Stephen Baldwin, Gabriel Byrne, Benicio del Toro, Kevin Pollak and Kevin Spacey.

  • HObama HObamanana

    I’m certain that Obama will straighten us all out tomorrow during his afternoon press conference. No doubt in my mind.

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      Thanks for the chuckle

  • Sandy

    At least 15 to 20 million votes flipped and missing.

    Historical data on all previous elections indicate massive fraud. This data available for anyone to research and easily available. Out of 56 presidential elections there were only 7 elections that voter turn out was down from previous elections for a combined total of 13 million votes less then 1% of all elections combined. These 7 elections had all had explainable events for a drop in voter turnout such as war of 1812, Civil War, WW2, stock market crash etc.

    The average growth in all presidential
    elections is 2.9 million per election.

    The average growth in the last 5
    presidential elections is 8 million per election.

    The Total growth in the last 5
    presidential was 40 million.

    In 2008 131 million votes were counted.

    On Nov 3, 2012 Gallop reported that
    this election mattered more to democrats 66% independents 62% and republicans 85%.

    2008 voter turnout 131 million + 8
    million average rate of growth for the last 5 elections + increased voter interest would generate at least

    (139 million + increased interest) for 2012.

    Only 122 million votes were counted for 2012 ????

    THATS A SHORTFALL OF at least 17 MILLION VOTES!!!!!

    Where are they ? Everyone lets put on our thinking caps and why are we being distracted by so many different issues?.

    Without this resolved

    It is no longer a government of We The People by the people to form a more perfect Union, establishing, Justice, and insuring domestic tranquility. All men then are NOT created equal, that they are NOT endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness will no longer protected by government.

    NOTHING ELSE MATERS!!!!!!

    Does this touch you in your core?

    Sandy

    • HObama HObamanana

      I have absolutely no question in my mind that this election was rigged. But I have reached a conclusion that I can’t do a damned thing about it and I’m unwilling to waste any energy trying to fight a battle I have no hope of winning. There are better battles to fight somewhere down the road. Not sure exactly what they are or when they will occur. Just know that I need to be ready for them when they start. And that ain’t now.

      • Jill Branson

        “I have absolutely no question in my mind that this election was rigged. ”
        Looney NQ reply of the day. You conservatives with your conspiracies are all the same. You will continue to lose elections until you start being honest with yourselves and get out of your bubble.

        • beachnan

          You didn’t mind complaining in 2000 and 2004 about supposed cheating by the Republicans, so shut your piehole.

          • scottymac54

            But there was rampant, unrestrained fraud in 2000 and 2004, and everyone knew it…there was concrete proof for all to see (remember the locked doors in that Florida building, with everyone running around?)
            Here, there’s not enough verifiable evidence so far, and absolutely nothing that rises to an actionable level, at all, apart from a few inner-city precincts that would have no Romney supporters at all.
            Even the candidates know better than to embarrass themselves in this manner.

            • Nobody Special

              Well I guess you’re unaware of the locked doors in St. Lucie County, Florida this go round.

              The truth is both sides cheat, that’s why we need voter ID laws and paper ballots.

              BTW 2000, 2004….you left out 2008 in your trip down memory lane

              • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Holley/550626733 Ryan Holley

                Voter fraud was at record numbers around the country, primarily in swing states that Obama needed. Something is wrong. My gut instincts tell me this election was stolen. May never be able to prove it, but I’d bet my life savings on it.

                • HObama HObamanana

                  I didn’t witness any voter fraud but what I did witness were long lines in precincts where there had never been lines before (ever), yet the vote totals were somehow significantly less than the last go round. So it isn’t just my gut telling me there was fraud, it is my brain.

                  • scottymac54

                    That’s true. If you are in one of the midwestern “swing” states, I particularly believe it.

                    But both the mainstream GOP, Kochs, “Tea Party” groups, etc., spent unprecedented amounts in order to take steps to prevent such abuses, yet they appeared to be few in number, there were hardly any reports from the field, as there were from the Soros-paid watchers, so what do YOU think happened?

                    So many reports, from earnest Romney supporters and volunteers, have come out baffled about the failed ORCA program, which undercut their efforts on the ground. Apparently, that was yet more donor money, pissed away, and a key part of GOP strategy that inexplicably failed. It’s easily to get conspiratorial, but how could such a failure occur, on the only day that mattered?
                    I believe Bev Harris’ conclusions on “Black Box Voting”, but I also know the nation was evenly split, and long experience has taught me how the GOP uses election fraud and high-tech trick-nology to steal elections without a hint of shame, so I can’t get excited over opportunists jumping on the fraud train, when they hide behind the skirts of the ones who fostered this culture of corruption in the first place….
                    What true instances of fraud exist cannot be differentiated from the “fraudulent frauds”, when the “watchers” are ideologically pre-programmed and devoid of integrity.

                • jrterrier
                  • HObama HObamanana

                    I don’t need a study to demonstrate that intestinal reactions are the source of Democrat policy.

            • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

              Hey Scottymac, I guess you missed the memo – LameCherry has already stated – and in fact he said so BEFORE the election – that Karl Rove helped Obama cheat with a computer algorithm to flip votes. So none of what you said discounts voter fraud NOW, because it could be the *same damn people* who cheated before.

              • HObama HObamanana

                Potty-crack is nothing more than a concern troll Obot.

              • scottymac54

                Well, as long as “Lame Cherry” says so…..
                Incidentally, I don’t necessarily disagree with that conclusion, only that it had enough of an effect to matter.
                I remember repeatedly stating that this would be a close election, but so many naive, misinformed Romney supporters (even those not so supportive) allowed themselves to be convinced that they were entitled to a landslide victory, and conducted themselves accordingly, without taking into account varied, balanced sources of information, and opinions that differed from their own.
                My guess? The “Breitbart” types will pin it all on inner-city blacks, and the few moderates left to speak will quietly acquiesce, because that strategy has “worked” before, to build solidarity from within.

            • jrterrier

              So, locked doors is proof of fraud? then what of the republican polls judges kicked out of the Philly precincts? They went to court, obtained court orders & still were barred. Those were the same precincts with near 100% voting turnout (in 2008, turnout did not go above 70% in any Philly district) and near 100% pro-Obama votes.

              http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/fraud-in-pa-obama-got-over-99-of-vote.html

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Larson-Gonzales/708649430 Sandy Larson- Gonzales

            When you ignore the Troll, they disappear

            • Sandy

              Thanks so true but sometimes I fall off the wagon.
              p.s. love yor name

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          You Obamabots are all the same. Somewhere there is some sort of software that basically lights up your desktop when someone on the net talks about voter fraud, and then you come running over here to spread your disinfo and astroturf. Today it’s you, tomorrow it will be someone else.

          • randi

            coordinated effort for sure. The no-longer-free press has left us vulnerable.

          • scottymac54

            There’s hardly much motive, is there?
            The election is over. And nobody truly convinces anyone of anything else, on political blogs.
            Voters are convinced by what they experience in their day-to-day lives, and the experiences of those they know, trust, and love.

        • jrterrier

          I’m always intrigued why you (and others like you that come on here from time to time) choose to read & post on a blog that you believe is full of looneys. Do you also visit your local mental health facilities to speak with the patients?

          • HObama HObamanana

            Do you also visit your local mental health facilities to speak with the patients?

            You totally cracked me up. I am still laughing. Tears in eyes and everything. Thanks!

      • beachnan

        The problem is, if we don’t fight for voter id and paper ballots, it won’t mean a damn thing. They will keep bussing ineligible people to the polls, they will keep falsifying papers, (just like that Dem congressman’s son was caught on tape telling someone how to do), and they will flip machines. Something has to be done, or we will repeat this same scenario over and over and over again.

        • HObama HObamanana

          Absolutely agree with you. I just don’t think that this exact moment is the time to be fighting for these things. At least not publicly. And we have to contend with being able to communicate the fight with a bought and paid for media standing in the way.

        • jrterrier

          It’s more than that, though. For example, there were laws passed about how ballots are supposed to get to military voters but when they are not followed, nothing happens.
          There have to be laws and a way to enforce them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Larson-Gonzales/708649430 Sandy Larson- Gonzales

        It is the ONLY battle. If your vote doesn’t count, nothing does

        • HObama HObamanana

          I’ll put it to you this way Sandy, I don’t have the fight in me at this moment. As I stated, there are other battles coming and I need to rethink strategies. A head on fight at this point in time is a sure loser and a waste of my time.

          There are many ways to win. A federally required Voter ID, something akin to E-Verify is one way. Reverting back to chad-less paper ballots that must be counted with witnesses present is another. Demanding that the people be put in charge of elections rather than the political parties is another.

          Exit question: Why did the League of Women Voters quit sponsoring the presidential debates?

          Hint: The answer is part of the solution.

          • scottymac54

            No point in fighting. Your candidate lost.
            Maybe it’s a good time to look inward, take responsibility for WHY Americans have rejected conservatism, and put yourself in the position of someone whose struggles have been different (not to mention, unaddressed, for a longer period of time).

            • HObama HObamanana

              The only time it is, is for relaxing and recuperating. And if there is any question to be asked it is: Why are so many Americans so absolutely willing to trade a false sense of security for their freedom?

    • JohnnyTwoDog

      Obama losing 8 million voters makes sense. The 1.8 million that Romney lost compared to McCain does not make sense especially given the enthusiasm.
      The 8 million voters that Obama lost went back to sleep and were not Romney voters anyway. But where did the 1.8 million McCain voters go?
      Government has authority over the public by trust or by force. Ours is rapidly losing trust. We may become ruled by force if we are not there already.

      • Jill Branson

        “does not make sense especially given the enthusiasm.”
        There is no proof that there was any “enthusiasm” on the Republican side. Maybe in your NQ bubble. The only enthusiasm was with all the women, minorities and youth who turned out in bigger numbers than in 2008 to re-elect Obama. Most Republicans did not even like Romney. That was clear in the primary where he never had more than 40% support among his own Republicans and he was pretty much the default candidate. It it was not for his big money donors he would not have been able to squash Perry and Gingrich so easily in the primaries.

        • beachnan

          Nice try Jill, but there were polls showing the high level of enthusiasm. You are full of it, if you believe that the Dems had all the enthusiasm. Then why didn’t they vote in larger numbers. Let’s do a recount and see where it lands, it you are so sure of yourself.

          • buzzlatte3

            Jill’s one of the bubble wrap people. ~ wants to be wrapped up in gov’t programs to feel safe and secure yet doesn’t want to pay for it. Ooooh, it’s so fun to pop the bubbles!

            • randi

              Great term – Bubble wrap. Let’s start our own offensive maneuver – and whenever a ‘bot’ (as opposed to a supporter – the difference is a bot runs through a site posting many posts in a short time – all with intent to incite or disrupt) – just write BUBBLE WRAP!

        • Sandy

          Jill,

          your right there are so many bubbles it
          hard to see through to the facts.

          Fact 1. Enthusiasm

          On Nov 3, 2012 Gallop reported that this election mattered more to democrats 66% independents 62% and republicans 85%.

          Fact 2. Turn out

          Obama down a whopping 7.25 million votes mind you that’s a solid 10% defection before the fraud of counties reporting 140% turnout.

          Fact 3

          To put this in proper perspective Bush
          in 2004 was up 12 million votes over 2000 lets do the math Obama down-7.25 million second election Bush up+12 million second election well is a hair shy of 20 million spread. Obama doesn’t look that popular when you pop that bubble.

          Fact 4

          Historical data shows At least 15 to 20
          million votes flipped and missing. 56 elections over 200 years of factual numbers tell us massive fraud. So when we clear away the bubbles the many many bubbles of this administration we will finnaly
          get to the truth and facts so you can see clearly again.

          Sleep tight it will all be OK

          Sandy

          • Jill Branson

            Let me address your so-called “facts”:

            Fact 1: A Gallup Poll before the election means nothing. In fact, Gallup had a terrible track record at predicting the 2012 election. That poll and poll question quote was stupid and gives no indication of actual enthusiasm or voter turn-out. It was wrong.

            Fact 2: In 2008 Obama got 69,456,897 votes. According to CNN in 2012 he got
            62,613,405 . That is a 6,843,492 less votes or a decline of 9.8%. Total vote count was down 5.9% and Romney got less votes than McCain. So less people voted for Obama, which is not surprising for a second term election. But that does not reflect a heck of a lot of less enthusiasm. Obama had record levels of votes from the youth, minorities and women. There was plenty of enthusiasm for Obama, certainly a lot more than there was for Romney. Romney could not even get more votes than McCain.

            Fact 3: Obama is very popular. He just won a very convincing election. He got about 51.4% of the vote (close to his 53% in 2008), beating Romney by 3.5 million votes. Not surprising Bush did better in 2004 than in 2000, as Bush did very badly in 2000, actually losing the popular vote to Gore in 2000 and handed the election by SCOTUS. Bush got 47.9% of the popular vote in 2000 (Obama got 53% in 2008) and then Bush got 50.7% in 2004 (Obama got 51.4% in 2012). Obama beat Bush in both elections and Bush only did better in 2004 than in 2000 because he did so badly in 2000, he started from a much lower base benchmark first election than Obama does. It was a record win for Obama in 2008 and was going to be impossible to beat in 2012.

            Fact 4: Good luck with your conspiracies. Adjust your tinfoil hat.

            • TexMexSoup

              I know of at least 3 minorities (Hispanic and female) who voted for Romney, myself, mum and my office assistant. The ratio of yard signs which is a good indicator on the pulse was 3 to 1 for Romney

              I’m sure all the illegal union workers (no papers but work with Tax ID’s) were bussed in to vote for Obama since there are no voter ID laws in place. I watched the pathetic lies and fear mongering on the Spanish channels here in Las Vegas. Something is definitely askew.

              But does it matter in the end? Romney rolled over pretty easily as they [POTUS and Romney ] work for the big banks anyway.

              • scottymac54

                “But does it matter in the end? Romney rolled over pretty easily as they [POTUS and Romney ] work for the big banks anyway…”
                Thank you.

            • Guest

              f that shit obama is popular. polulat poresidents do not get 3000 people at their rallys the night before an election. popular oresidents get 30000 people like Romney did. the election was stolen.

            • http://www.facebook.com/sirmrks Mark Dormann

              f that shit obama is popular. popular presidents do not get 3000 people at their rally’s the night before an election. popular presidents get 30000 people like Romney did. the election was stolen.

            • buzzlatte3

              Jill, what vodka are they paying you in these days? Will you vacation in Moscow at the request of Putin? Bullshit stinks, Jill.

        • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

          Jill Branson. Today’s Obamabot. How come we rarely see all of them online at the same time? Where’s win43 or that jayhg guy who was hammering the last story yesterday?

          • randi

            They work different shifts.

          • Stefanie Fletcher

            What?! maybe you should go “there” to “the story” yesterday to post… this article isn’t about Obama… goodness grief people!

          • http://www.facebook.com/sirmrks Mark Dormann

            they are paid bloggers by the obama spin machine. their IPs and locations of posting should be tracked and once known banned.

        • jrterrier

          Are you kidding? Did you see the crowds? During the last weekend, Romney got crowds of 20 to 30,000 everywhere he went.
          In Cleveland, with Stevie Wonder, the president got fewer than 200 people. The next day at another venue in OH, he got fewer than 4000, in a venue where McCain had drawn more people in 2008.

          • Jill Branson

            Size of rally crowds means absolutely zero. Fine the GOP was good at busing in people. Whether you get 20,000 or 5,000 at a rally tells you nothing when over 100 million people are voting. You are very simple minded.

            • Amjean

              Joseph Stalin said that it didn’t matter who voted, only who counted the votes mattered.

              • buzzlatte3

                Jill is the voice of communism. Spent too many years in a heavily unionized state and job listening to this kind of crap that is meant to diminish the credibility of anything that tarnishes the politburo. The Jills of the world are freeloaders and unintelligent lemmings.

              • backtoK

                that’s 100% true. having come from the evil empire, can attest to it.

                • Amjean

                  OMG, that must be terrible, escaping one regime and finding out that our government is
                  hell bent on emulating socialistm/marxism/communism standards.
                  I apologize on behalf of the citizens of this country. Over half don’t want this, however, with the other half not paying attention, not caring, or committing voter fraud, or being in on the crime, it is tough. However, don’t despair, we will find a way out of this mess…we always do. Right now we are looking for leaders who are more concerned about the health of the country than the amount of power and money in their bank accounts. We just need to figure out what to do. We aren’t there yet, but we will be.

            • beachnan

              Republicans don’t get bussed in. They don’t need to be told what to do. You must have meant the Dems bussed people in or were forced to go by their unions. We don’t need coercion, we go for love of country.

              • scottymac54

                Nonsense! Try “love of money”…..

    • sheprez

      Kind of what was in my mind. A lot is wrong with the election and here we are distructed by the “4* scandal.” There is no way Romney got less votes than McCain and Benghazi is a major scandal. Sad, sad, sad !!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandy-Larson-Gonzales/708649430 Sandy Larson- Gonzales

      I believe in my heart this election was stolen

      • Sandy

        You, I and millions also intuitively and concisely know this is massive voter fraud.. How many still remains to be discovered. This is the key issue. Many other issues are important and are related in different ways. A fraudulent election cuts threw all issues and becomes the common denominator for our constitutional republic’s survival. Our republic now remains intact only in the hearts and minds of we the people and what I call the relational revolution is where and how it shall be restored in government.

        Without this resolved !!!

        It is no longer a government of We The People by the people to form a more perfect Union,establishingJustice, and insuring domestic tranquility. All men then are NOT created equal, that they are NOT endowed by their Creator with
        certain unalienable Rights, that Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness will no longer protected by government.

        NOTHING ELSE MATERS!!!!!!

        Thanks for all your post you are part of the relational
        revolution.

        Gods speed

        Sandy

    • Stefanie Fletcher

      Ummmm, Sandy… did you post to the wrong article? I see a few others did….

    • Guest

      HERE’S HOW TOUCHSCREENS KILLED ROMNEY VOTES

      You won’t believe what machine expert claimsPublished: 15 hours ago

      by BOB UNRUHEmail | Archive

      Bob Unruh joined WND in 2006 after nearly three decades with the Associated Press, as well as several Upper Midwest newspapers, where he covered everything from legislative battles and sports to tornadoes and homicidal survivalists. He is also a photographer whose scenic work has been used commercially.More ↓

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      A Chicago voting-machine tech is sounding the alarm, claiming he witnessed multiple error messages on the voting touch-screens this election – but only in cases where people voted for Mitt Romney.

      Steve Pickrum said he worked for Chicago’s election system during the early voting and Election Day voting for the 2012 race.

      As an equipment manager for the system, Pickrum said, he responded whenever there was a glitch with a voting machine.

      “On early voting, when I did work on the floor when voters needed help using the equipment, I was able to see the preference of the voter, and every time that I saw [a] voter voted for Romney a ‘voter save failure’ message came up on the screen,’” he reported.

      See the Big List of vote fraud reports.

      Then when he went on Election Day to cast his own vote, he picked Romney and experienced the same error message.

      Pickrum said he worked at both the Matteson voting area as well as in Precinct 70, and although he discussed the anomalies with his boss, had not yet filed a formal report.

      He said when he voted, he was told by a precinct worker to just go ahead and assume that his vote had been tabulated, despite the error message. But since he knew the operations of the machines, he asked the poll workers to check the vote report, and they found his vote had not been counted.

      He insisted on completing his ballot on another machine, he told WND.

      Curiously, he reported he never saw the error message when the voter was choosing Barack Obama.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sirmrks Mark Dormann

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscreens-killed-romney-votes/
      by BOB UNRUHEmail | Archive

      A Chicago voting-machine tech is sounding the alarm, claiming he witnessed multiple error messages on the voting touch-screens this election – but only in cases where people voted for Mitt Romney.

      Steve Pickrum said he worked for Chicago’s election system during the early voting and Election Day voting for the 2012 race.

      As an equipment manager for the system, Pickrum said, he responded whenever there was a glitch with a voting machine.

      “On early voting, when I did work on the floor when voters needed help using the equipment, I was able to see the preference of the voter, and every time that I saw [a] voter voted for Romney a ‘voter save failure’ message came up on the screen,’” he reported.

      See the Big List of vote fraud reports.

      Then when he went on Election Day to cast his own vote, he picked Romney and experienced the same error message.

      Pickrum said he worked at both the Matteson voting area as well as in Precinct 70, and although he discussed the anomalies with his boss, had not yet filed a formal report.

      He said when he voted, he was told by a precinct worker to just go ahead and assume that his vote had been tabulated, despite the error message. But since he knew the operations of the machines, he asked the poll workers to check the vote report, and they found his vote had not been counted.

      He insisted on completing his ballot on another machine, he told WND.

      Curiously, he reported he never saw the error message when the voter was choosing Barack Obama.

  • buzzlatte3

    Oh my, does this mean Obama’s ‘Sing Kumbyah and Bow’ foreign policy is under the microscope?

  • akaPatience

    Well Jill Kelley seems like quite the operator. And her twin sister’s a real piece of work too. Judging from what I’ve read about them so far, it sounds like one way they’ve ingratiated themselves in these military/political circles is by giving the appearance of having substantial wealth (mansions, Mercedes, sable coats and other bling), even though they’re bankrupt (the twin) or near-bankrupt (Jill). There’s nothing politicos like more than hanging out with rich people.

  • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd
  • seattlegonz

    what about this whole “the cia was keeping libyan prisoners at the annex/consulate and that the attack was a move to get them released.” This said by broadwell. Clearly she was getting top secret info and this whole thing is to distract from those secret operations.

    Is the US interrogating and torturing prisoners in our consulates in other nations?

  • mgm

    I don’t know about anyone else, but shivers run down my spine at the total lack of judgment, the reckless stupidity, of two four-star generals in getting involved in any way with these demonstably unstable women.

    It’s damn scary that these men are actually in charge of our military and our national security. I could care less if they have affairs, but they could at least use some judgment and choose women who are reasonably sane. The pathologically jealous Broadwell started the whole unraveling with her spiteful emails (although maybe we should thank her) and the other two sound like they should be on serious medication. What in god’s name were Petraeus and Allen thinking?

    • scottymac54

      I couldn’t care less, if any of these old cranks choose to pillow half the Middle East! That’s not what this is all about.

      Petraeus, the genius, and the “surge”. All those troops. What do you suppose we pay for it all with? Baking soda?

      This is all job “stimulus”, evangelical welfare, with not a whit of logical strategy or legitimate foreign policy objectives behind it. Is it any wonder that the conflicts get bigger, the atrocities remain ever more well hidden, the body bags come back with nary a word, and each successive conflict ends with our total defeat?
      The CIA, in Libya, to fund Syrian “rebels”. Really?
      Over a decade, with no tax increase to fund any of it, in all this time?
      Fine, I’ll say it. It’s no longer enough to defund the beast. The military itself, must be purged, from top to bottom.
      Why is this bloated, ineffective machine always the sacred cow, when all evidence reminds us it doesn’t deserve the level of hero-worship it has gotten for the last twenty-five years?

      • HObama HObamanana

        Yes, words of wisdom from an anarchist Obot.

        • scottymac54

          Just loving the whole “I’m with the general, when I’m not against the general” spin that’s being developed here (I thought collectivism was a dirty concept?)

          • HObama HObamanana

            I came out against Petraeus some time ago, before any of this “scandal” broke. So I am not a part of your imagined collective.

            • scottymac54

              I was referring to the “groupthink” collective in general, not the Petraeus scandal in particular.
              And that’s definitely not a figment of my imagination.

            • shelldoll2

              Actually Gen P was “Betrayus” when he worked for GWB as labeled at numerous liberal/progressive websites. I know. I read them.

              As soon as Obama tapped Gen P to continue in his current role these same liberal/progressive sites were singing his praises.

              There’s the hypocrisy HO HO. But these Obots? the truth always seems to escape them.

              • HObama HObamanana

                Well I think that you are slightly wrong. The libs/progressives can’t be hypocrites because that would require them to have a conscience and be conscious. Obotology 101!

              • scottymac54

                Oh, not just at those sites….try a full-page ad, in the New York Times!
                (I was antiwar, and had a bully pulpit at the time, but I did not speak on it, because I couldn’t figure out why, specifically, Petraeus was being targeted, and I’m still not sure).
                People don’t understand this, but within the antiwar movement, the majority of our supporters basically “retired”, after Obama got in…..it was as if they collectively said to themselves, “Well, we got OUR war president now, he MUST know what’s right…
                I still don’t understand this mentality.
                That’s when I began to deal with antiwar writers and critics, who were of a more paleoconservative/libertarian mindset.
                I learned more in two years, than in the prior eight, because every development was looked at, from a whole new perspective, the people were older, and had more of a frame of reference, regarding past geopolitical shifts.

    • randi

      Interesting that you are so quick to believe this is Broadwell’s fault. The whole thing seems quite the set-up to me. Next, we will be told that Petraeus made specific decisions ‘all by himself’. Like take hostages or prisoners and run a detention center, etc.. All alone. Not a single Democrat, I mean official knew anything about this. And 90% will believe. Because the media primed people. Broadwell is discredited. Watch the bots and you can see a pattern.

  • buzzlatte3

    This isn’t an attempt to damage the military and the CIA in one big swipe, is it?

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      That’s what Glenn Beck has been saying.

    • Fred82

      I think you might be on to something.

      The Soviets probably spent more resources on certain active measures, subversion, and influence operations than they did on traditional intelligence gathering.

      The Nazis were also into the whole art of influence warfare and character assassination.

      At the end of the day, what would be more damaging?

      Intelligence gathered from these dinner parties or taking down a man seen by many Americans as an American hero and the overall commander of ISAF Afghanistan?

    • getfitnow

      I said on another thread, it smacks of a reverse coup.

      And I also believe it’s a coverup of what was actually going on in Benghazi and why.

      And in both cases, it seems to be blowing up in their faces.

      This POTUS needs to be, someone said, WATERGATED!

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      Glenn Beck has said this…and he predicted they were going to take Petreaus out before it happened. Beck was saying that they need to destroy our confidence in the last remaining institution that has any credibility – the military. (Though I would submit the military has been damaged since Bush but I see what he’s saying.)

  • sowsear1

    REVENGE TIME:
    Lockheed Martin exec angers Obama, now found to be having an affair…..how extraordinary!

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po…

    http://washington.cbslocal.com…

    • randi

      Yeah..the list is growing. Housecleaning?

  • Jill Branson

    All Petraeus all the time on NQ. This website is just as superficial as most of the media. Larry Johnson goes from getting his ass handed to him in the election to covering this shit. It is a sex scandal and nothing more, although I am sure Larry Johnson will find some way to blame Obama for it. Love all the election conspiracy story comments by many NQ followers. This website attracts a lot of nuts.

    • buzzlatte3

      Well Jill, let’s satisfy your prognosticating ways!

      “It’s all Obama’s fault!” Because, sweetie, it’s all about him now!

      By the way, did Valerie Jarrett give you your crystal ball or did you Call Miss Cleo before you made an azz out of yourself?

    • scottymac54

      If you see allegations or wild figures you know are out of bounds, simply ask for a source.
      They are not used to being questioned.

      • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

        “They are not used to being questioned.” Seriously? Are you kidding? I battle Obot brainwashing on Facebook and other places on the net, and it’s the Obots who can’t handle questions. And the minute you bring up actual facts about Obama, they’ll deflect. Like, if you mention Obama’s drone strikes, suddenly, you’ll see a long string of comments about how Romney supposedly gave jobs to China at Bain. Gee, if I didn’t know any better, I’d wonder if MoveOn or some other Democrat-propaganda machine wasn’t actually *training* Obamabots to use deflection and ridicule in online comments….hmm…

        • scottymac54

          No, I’m not kidding! You “battle…”…Dear God.

          Stereotypes as you mention exist, and they were here, in full force, in 2008.
          Not so, this year. ALL challenging voices were either set up for instant ridicule, or stifled entirely.
          And let’s not kid ourselves, that you weren’t a member of the subgroup of commenters, calling for suppression.
          Voters can be forgiven for taking exactly that attitude, and holding it against any prospective candidate, which is exactly what happened this year.
          I don’t have to take a strict ideological bent and pretzel up the facts to suit my own purposes, because I’d already figured out the different angles of each issue for myself.

    • HARP2

      You really have no clue as to what is coming down the financial pike ..do you ?

      Thanks to your kind the middle class will be destroyed.

      Oh well. You still have your lady parts. You may need to sell them in the future, just to eat.

    • Sandy

      Jill Jill Jill

      Let me guess paid ObotRobot. The
      giveaway no Facts no Truth no Contributions. Just the runaway emotion of fear frozen neurons causing spewing critical convulsive responses factless baseless and wrapped in incompetence.

    • randi

      Oh, goody…Team ridicule and discredit is back. Gotta prepare the masses to fall for the next ‘youtube video’ story. LOL Follow the ‘bots’ and you follow the story – funny how the bots manage to coordinate their attacks and memes.

    • HObama HObamanana

      This website attracts a lot of nuts.

      That does explain why you are here.

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      It’s still quite astonishing to me how the Obamabot astroturfers manage to each take ONE story per day and hammer on it in the comments. (Scottymac, while being a bit annoying, is actually a real person, I believe, and not on a payroll.)

      So Jill B is tasked with trolling this story, while jayhg was given the assignment of trolling the last story, and the day before, it was win43. It must be some software they have on their computer that pulls up the stories they are supposed to troll for the day. I found one person doing this over at Breitbart too – this Obot was trolling ONE story on the site, and ignoring another story about a similar topic. But on that one story, the Obot was responding with snarky comments to *everything* posted. It’s getting to be quite transparent.

      (BTW, I encourage people here to call these folks out when and wherever you see them.)

      • scottymac54

        Thank you.
        And, remember, ALL political blogs and websites have commenters that are compensated and paid to shape opinion, even this one.
        From ALL political persuasions.
        And there’s no point in getting all exercised about it. Because, even if these discussions seem “rigged” to a certain degree, even their “hints” bring valuable ideas to the table, and that’s far better than having to duck and weave through some pointless control grid.

    • randi

      Bubble Wrap! :)

  • LastoftheZucchiniFlowers

    After hearing this gal on the phone discuss her ‘diplomatic status’ it’s clear to me that she is a complete numbskull, better suited to be the next ‘Real Housewives of Uncle Sam’. The silliness factor actually oozed from her comments. I guess the husband/surgeon is too busy in the OR to deal with his wife and her wacky sister. WHO cares for her young children which is the SAME question I have about Paula Broadstone’s two young sons. These gals are NOT getting Mother’s Day cards this year! As for the two (homely) generals: as my grandmother always said – there is no fool like an old fool! You said it, Grandma. But Jill is dumb enough to be used by an organization along with her sister (a lawyer who keeps getting fired for being unstable and unable to make decisions). I suppose that is why she lost custody of her young son. Honestly, Generals….REALLY? Couldn’t you just grab off a piece somewhere? You HAD to bang these fatal attraction broads? DUMB and DUMBEST – who will now have to get radio talk shows to supplement their military retirements as they will skulk off in disgrace. Ugh. Glad I’m retired!

    • akaPatience

      I agree except I wouldn’t say the Dynamic Duo allowed themselves to be “used by an organization” — quite the opposite. It seems to me that Gen. Allen, by corresponding with Mrs. Kelley so frequently while he’s been IN COMMAND OF THE AFGHAN WAR, may have inadvertently divulged something that could’ve been of value to the enemy — even if it was as little as revealing the actual time (and amount of time) he spent fooling around on his PC. But if he’s anything like his predecessor, he may have divulged much much more.

  • jrterrier

    Greta played a clip of Rush Limbaugh tonight which was one of the best commentaries on this whole mess. Rush asked how it was that the FBI had spent longer last night at Broadwell’s house than it had spent at the Benghazi consulate?

    • akaPatience

      Huh. I have to admit that’s a good point!

      • buzzlatte3

        Despite the fantasies of the left, I never listen to Rush. He makes a great point.

    • HObama HObamanana

      Damn, if I had heard that while it was being said I would have stood up and applauded. Not exactly a Rush fan but that was awesome.

  • jrterrier

    Congressman Lamar Smith (Rep- Chair of House Judiciary Committee) sent letter to AG Holder & FBI Director Mueller with 15 questions re the Petraius investigation & requesting a response by Nov 26:

    Please respond to the following questions and requests by November 26, 2012:

    1. On what date did the investigation begin?

    2. On what date did the investigation first implicate classified intelligence information?

    3. On what date did the FBI first become aware of contrast between Mrs. Broadwell and General Petraeus?

    4. When were you first notified of the investigation? When were you first notified of General Petraeus’s involvement in the investigation?

    5. Did you or anyone within the Justice Department notify the President or anyone within the White House of the investigation? If so, on what date?

    6. To the extent that there was a gap between the date that you were first notified and White House officials were first notified, why was there such a delay?

    7. Did you discuss the investigation or whether to disclose the investigation with FBI Director Mueller? If so, please provide the date and describe the nature of those discussions.

    8. Please provide the names of all individuals outside the Department of Justice and the FBI with whom the Department of Justice personnel discussed the investigation before Director Clapper was notified, and the dates of those discussions.

    9. Please provide all legal analysis conducted within the Department regarding whether you were obligated by the National Security Act or other law to report the investigation to any person outside the Department and the FBI.

    10. When did the Department first engage in an analysis of potential obligations to disclose the investigation to persons outside of the DOJ or FBI?

    11. When did the Department of Justice make the decision to notify Obama Administration officials or Congress about the investigation?

    12. Has the Department concluded that General Petraeus is not the subject of any criminal or intelligence-related investigation? If so, on what date did it reach that conclusion?

    13. Is the Department pursuing an investigation into allegations that Ms. Broadwell was in possession of classified materials and the source of those materials? Is General Petraeus a person of interest or subject of any such investigations?

    14. Please provide any other information that would aid the Committee in reconstructing the timeline of the investigation and the decision by the Department and the FBI to delay notifying outside individuals about the investigation.

    15. Please make the Department of Justice officials and supervisors with the greatest knowledge of the investigation’s timeline and the Department’s decision regarding when to disclose the investigation available for interviews on or before December 3, 2012.

    http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/11/13/fncs-chad-pergram-reports-rep-smith-asks-for-answers-from-muellerholder-on-petraeus/

  • MG6

    So, it’s bad to have an affair unless you are a Democratic politician? Wasn’t there a Dem Senator who had a sex party down in the DR? I think there were more than one. Yet, these people are still in office.

  • getfitnow
    • HObama HObamanana

      We’ve all been speculating about the same thing ever since the news broke. Krauthammer is a little late to the party.

  • getfitnow

    I do hope the Congress works on behalf of the PEOPLE on this–grow a spine and let the evidence take it where it may. Both sides should be outraged and afraid, frankly, afraid of what’s happening.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/nov/13/pruden-obamas-web-of-deceit-begins-to-fray/

    • HObama HObamanana

      Got a feeling you are going to be hoping for a while longer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/margaret.maree Margaret Maree

    Petraeus will voluntarily testify, per Fox News. Wow, maybe we have a hero after all?

    • HObama HObamanana

      He is hardly a hero for volunteering to testify.

      • jrterrier

        It will be interesting. Reports are that during his first appearance before congress (about 4 or 5 days after 9/11) P4 blamed the attack on a flash mob. We have since learned that the CIA station chief in Libya said as early as 9/12 that it was a pre-planned terrorist attack. So what is he going to say now? I lied? My analysis was wrong? I misspoke?

        • HObama HObamanana

          I am looking forward to his testimony but doubt that we will know what he actually reveals because it will be behind closed doors and likely classified.

      • http://www.facebook.com/margaret.maree Margaret Maree

        Hoping for an epiphany resulting in candid testimony, but maybe I’m just straining to find something good in this mess.

        • HObama HObamanana

          I would love to believe that something good will come from all of this. But I have absolutely no faith whatsoever in the people running our government. Maybe I will be surprised. It would be a welcomed change. But what I suspect is that even the truth that will be revealed will in all actuality be a lie.

  • jrterrier

    Thank god for Alan West challenging St Lucie County results. Maybe they’ll find fraud. Supposedly several thousand votes disappeared.

    • HObama HObamanana

      I am glad he isn’t backing down. Someone needs to get to the bottom of things. If he loses then he loses. Let’s just verify the facts first. This is why I support Voter ID.

    • Jill Branson

      Allen West should be the new leader of the Republican Party. He should help you win many elections. Go for it!

      • HELENK2

        he does have the backbone that is missing in a lot of our so called representives

      • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

        Folks, remember Jill Branson is an Obamabot. She was being sarcastic here. And she may not know that Allen West is black either.

    • foxyladi14

      YES!!! Good for West.

  • foxyladi14

    Wow that’s all that is on the news.

    They want all the juicy details about his SEX life.

    • randi

      It’s frustrating – you know it’s a diversion, right? Still waiting for a plausible explanation about why the Obama administration lied to us and diverted our attention with a ‘youtube video’.

      • HObama HObamanana

        Wait until the Petraeus sex tape starts making it’s rounds. I mean if you are going to stage a diversion you might as well go full monty.

      • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

        The mainstream media makes me so sick now. I just don’t watch them or go to their websites anymore.

  • HELENK2

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/obama-spurns-iraqi-prime-ministers-congrats-on-re-election/

    backtrack spurns Iraqi prime-ministers congrats on re-election.
    Biden takes call

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    http://townhall.com/columnists/terryjeffrey/2012/11/14/how_long_does_it_take_to_tell_a_president_his_cia_director_is_under_investigation

    just how long does it take to tell a president his CIA director is under investigation???

    a good article on backtrack taking petraeus from the ME and moving him to DC

    • randi

      Awww, Helen…why are you asking questions? You know that Obama was very busy running for re-election and this stuff is just not that important except to Fox news and they hate him so who can believe them? (sarcasm)

      • scottymac54

        The White House is not a tenement.
        There are protocols and channels, concerning communications.
        It’s not Millie, hanging out the window, screaming at Marie, not to forget to pick up the dinner rolls, and a bottle of Clairol Blue…

        • buzzlatte3

          Are you sure? I mean, after all, Moochelle lives there.

        • mgm

          Believe it or not, there are internal telephones. So let’s try this again. How long does it take Eric Holder to pick up the phone and tell Mr. President that his CIA director is under investigation?.

          • scottymac54

            My understanding is that Holder is out of the loop, has been so for many months, and will be leaving soon (they call him the “Showhorse”, which I was surprised by…..either they’ve dismissed him in uncharitable fashion and are open about it, or they want everyone to think this).
            There was a period of a few unfortunate “miscommunications” that got out during the summer, that led me to believe that he was on his way out (or, they want their opposition to think that).

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/14/petraeus-mistress-paula-broadwell-i-had-access-to-everything/

    broadwell says ” I had access to everything”

    he was thinking with the wrong head and she wants her 15 minutes of fame. what a pair

    • HObama HObamanana

      Rumor has it that Joe Francis is starting a new enterprise called: Generals Gone Wild.

  • EllenD818

    I actually am more interested in Larry’s hypothesis on Jill Kelley. These days with the success of the Kardashians (I still think of their father hiding OJs stuff) it seems you can easily create any persona if you have the chutzpah. (Remember that couple gate-crashing the White House?) No one thinks these people are out of the ordinary because that has become the new norm.

    But they all seem to be dark haired with middle eastern connections – not a blond scandinavian among them.

    Am I the only one wondering why no one is looking at this phenomenon?

    • HObama HObamanana

      Political Jeopardy for $666 Alex: Who said: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction?

      • EllenD818

        Yes but she is a Lebanese Catholic. Lebanon was originally set up as a safe country for the Marionite Christians.

  • http://twitter.com/PennsylvaniaRed PennsylvaniaRed

    O/T

    IDF Pinpoint Strike on Ahmed Jabari, Head of Hamas Military Wing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6U2ZQ0EhN4&feature=youtu.be

    • Hokma

      There is a limit to just how many rockets Israel will be tolerant of before they make sure their citizens are protected. And for those Israel haters, Israel does not occupy Gaza. It is totally controlled by the Iran funded terrorist group Hamas

  • HELENK2
  • jrterrier

    The media are toadys. The first question assumed the party line that the President had not been told about the Petraues situation until the after the election. So, the President was allowed to give a squishy answer about waiting until the investigation was over.
    Why not ask just the simple question, When did you first learn about the investigation? Then you would have him on record.
    I may be a sore loser but I cannot stand his two-facedness. You just ran an election where you said Gov Romney was a bullshitter & you also allowed your campaign to accuse him of being a felon and a murderer. And now he says that that Gov Romney had some good ideas & that had particular skill-sets, ie, turning around the Olympics. Give me a break.
    I am not going to be able to stand this baloney for another 4 years.

  • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

    You know, I just read this again…”Now we are told that Kelley was “unofficial social liaison to U.S. Central Command.” ” – Are we looking at another Heidi Fleiss? Like, maybe she was arranging prostitutes for these guys or something? I can only imagine this story getting weirder.

  • jrterrier

    First good question, Ed Henry — families of 4 dead Americans have been waiting for 2 months. What happened? Answer — blah, blah, blah. . .

  • http://www.facebook.com/sirmrks Mark Dormann

    bwahahaha obama is going to wack his supporters: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/nov2012/obam-n14.shtml
    Trade union leaders met Tuesday with President Barack Obama to give their support to his plans for massive cuts in social programs upon which tens of millions of workers depend.
    The hour-long, closed-door meeting at the White House was the first act in a carefully orchestrated campaign to convince the public that unprecedented cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, food stamps and other welfare programs are the only alternative to economic disaster in the form of the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

    he cant be trusted to feed his own dog…

    • http://twitter.com/beyondpartisan beyond partisan

      OK this is interesting…I read this comment on HillBuzz right after the election…here it is:

      palinpatriot says:

      2012/11/07 at 4:41 pm (Quote)

      The rich corporate families in America control everything. THEY pick the person they want to be president and the president pretty much does what they tell him. They picked Obama because entitlements are going to be taken from the poor. Only a black man will be able to accomplish this. Can you imagine a rich white man taking entitlements from the poor blacks? THAT is precisely why Obama was chosen. I have inside info that the DuPonts, Waltons, and other Corporate ruch families made their choice. Reliable inside information. And what was a Democrat talking about on NPR today? Cutting entitlements. Just watch. We are not just fighting Leftists and the media, we are fighting the rich families of America!

      Read more http://hillbuzz.org/did-the-ron-paul-revolution-stay-home-last-night-84239

      • randi

        Isn’t John Kerry a Dupont?

    • binky354

      Well, well, well…and so many people were afraid R-R would destroy their Medicare. So, Obama’s going to hit the elderly and the poor too.

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/14/report-patraeus-mistress-broadwell-had-classified-documents-in-her-home/

    broadwell had classified documents in her home. she is supposed to have worked for Army Intelligence, does not seem too intelligent to me

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    jill kelly’s base pass revoked TODAY.
    locking the barn door after the stock got out??????

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Check out the photo of Kelley leaving her house. Either it was a cold day, or something/someone has got her excited. Perhaps she’s headed to the base?
    http://news.yahoo.com/fla-socialite-center-generals-sex-scandal-184457817.html

    • FloridaFI

      Lebanese diamond cutters. And yes, it was a bit chilly this morning.

  • Andy_Lewis

    Agent of access to her privates is more like it.

  • MG6
  • twobits2

    Jill Kelley is a military groupie – just like sports groupies or police groupies or whatever other groupie you can think of. She was turned on by the uniform and the power. Bored Tampa housewife – husband at work (MD), kids, thankfully at school part of the day – with a lot of time on her hands to flirt. I odn’t know about her being an access agent. She is certainly dumb enough to fall for the line – very inflated sense of herself and her power.
    Could also make sense if money was offered, since she and the hubby have a massive debt they were having trouble paying off. That said, she’s not the sharpest tack.

  • arturo_ui

    “Let me suggest one possible and interesting hypothesis–Was Jill Kelley an Access Agent for a Foreign Intelligence organization?”

    God forbid the rubes who eat up your nonsense go a day without being dragged into yet another of your swamps of lies and innuendo.

    • Mike Monroe

      NQ and Larry Johnson is one long stream of “whitey tapes”… He just continues to embarass himself.

  • twobits2

    One thought that keeps recurring is: these Generals have too much time on their hands. We have noncoms fighting and risking their lives and the bosses are sending emails. What’s wrong with this picture?

  • Mike Monroe

    This is just another example of Larry Johnson mouthing off with his ridiculous opinions about issues that he knows nothing about and before the actual facts come out.

    It is a pattern with Larry Johnson. A continuous flow of “whitey
    tapes” accusations by Larry Johnson on NQ. Keep digging that credibility hole. You have no credibility.