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When Diplomacy Turns Rancid

By Larry Johnson on November 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM in Current Affairs

Love this moment from today’s (Monday) press conference at State Department. Spokeswoman Nuland gets tuned up by a nasty white male and deserves every verbal lick she gets:

Cowering before Turkey is a non-starter. Israel, at least in terms of the current war with Hamas, is not a terrorist state and, in my view, has acted with remarkable restraint. Unlike the chest thumping and trash talking in the previous Gaza invasion, Bibi and company appear to understand the peril that an emotional invasion of Gaza would present.

Remember, the current missile barrage was launched at the instigation of Iran who wanted to create a worrisome diversion for the Arabs keen on deposing Iran’s Syrian ally, Bashir Assad.

Hillary and Obama would be better served by telling the Turks to shut the fuck up and act like an ally. Instead, they are play acting as aspiring muslim extremists. The EEC should think long and hard before allowing those muslim ass clowns into the EC.

  • HELENK2

    It is nice to see a reporter do his job. the sad thing is that today it is so rare that it deserves special mention.

    If only the so called journalists had callouses on their knees from investigating what the backtrack bunch sweeps under the rug rather than from kneeling to backtrack

    • elijahzabmom

      If you want to see more head over to YouTube, this guy is a breath of fresh air.

    • TeakWoodKite

      I thought they were on their knees for a different reason.

  • Sally Vaci

    Oh so THAT’s what you look like without the hat and sunglasses Larry… seems like that guy is either you, your body double, or a No Quarter reader… wow, he gets it.

    It’s all so painful and tragically predictable. I cannot bear to see such over-educated under-whelming puppets like that woman representing me and my country. Where does it end?

    Oh well. At least the Obama regime knows how to go to war against the really dangerous groups — business, pro-family God-fearing citizens, YouTube filmmakers and global warming!

  • elijahzabmom

    I think Obama is doing this on perhaps Every one wants to call him inept but I can’t believe he has no idea that Muslim extremists are in control of governments surrounding Israel. WWIII, here we come. Obama gets to realize his father’s dreams for the USA.

  • buzzlatte3

    I bet there’ll be crickets from the dems about attacking a woman because she’s white. The clip, if anything, is a ray of real hope that this country isn’t on it’s last legs…

    OT: Al-queda linked 4 arrested in CA on the news tonight. FBI sting. Hmmmmm

    • KenoshaMarge

      How disappointing. I was looking forward to the faux rage dance from the left about the big mean man picking on the poor little girl. Perhaps it’s as you say, she doesn’t have enough melanin in her skin to be worthy of the faux rage dance, or perhaps it’s because the big mean man appears to be an actual reporter who wants some answers and is tired of being fed the usual “talking points” as answers.

      Refreshing and sad that it is worthy of note only because it’s so damn rare.

    • getfitnow

      Al-queda linked 4 arrested in CA on the news tonight.
      ********************
      They’re on the run! They’re back on their heels! So says POTUS.

      • buzzlatte3

        But I thought Obama quelled the terrorists before the election…oh, you mean he isn’t thee messiah dude? And perhaps he lied???? lol!

  • KenoshaMarge

    Don’t be silly LJ, everyone knows, because the NYT tells them, that everything that goes wrong in the ME is the fault of those warmongering Israelis. Especially that damn Netanyahu!

    And how the hell did a reporter get in there? Doesn’t he know he’s supposed to gush and giggle like a school girl? Or is that only female reporters?

  • shelldoll2

    This is what happens when you have a bunch of inept ass kissers running the country.

    This is what happens when you have a POTUS that is ignorant, incompetent, and has no interest in actually governing the country.

    If this is a diplomatic mission that could lead to war then where in the world is Hillary? Is she no longer SOS?

    Can you say clusterf*ck? I knew you could.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      Obama sent Hillary to do the job. It’s a little too messy a situation for his clean hands.

  • Popsmoke

    While this is a mess indeed that Both sides have propelled. I can understand States refusal to get involved in trash talk between a nation that has an actual treaty with us and one who does not…. While Turkey is a linchpin for our assine Syian policy. The reporter was looking for a fight and a gotcha…
    Plainly, the tunnels leading to Gaza have to be closed and the blockade has to end. Its the blockade that Turkey was refering to. As far as the blockade stopping weapons. Well let’s say its only partically effective since thousands of rockets have dropped in to say Hi There…
    Let’s get real….

    • Fred82

      Why not simply close the tunnels and maintain the blockade.

      If the blockade was lifted, I guarantee weapons would start coming in by sea again.

      • Popsmoke

        It has to end on both sides. We have to stop playing politics with both Israel and Palistine…

        • Fred82

          The Wahhabis, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, and secular Arab dictators will never allow that to happen.

          Barring a miraculous disappearance of Wahhabis, a major change in Arab rulers for the better, and a genuinely constructive regime change in Iran, I say keep the blockade and close the tunnels.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Certianly, it’s a grand thing to say “it” should end, what ever “it” is. If wishes were horse shoes.

            It will stop when Iran is eliminated as any meaningful military aspect of the equation. It will stop when Islam is all there is to pray to. That is the final destination according to these wack jobs and Barry is all for it. Hell, he even gives ‘em weapons to kill with…and tells bold face lies to the American people when they do…
            I wish the oceans I sail were as smooth as glass and a steady warm wind at my back, but it doesn’t work that way, does it PopSmoke?

          • Popsmoke

            Fred
            We could end this pretty quickly if we told all the special interests to fuck off and started tightening the purse strings to all the countries involved and if Iran got in the way either we bring them to the table or we use the table as a weapon and we just deal with them.

            • Fred82

              That wouldn’t work.

              The Wahhabis, the MB, and Islamist groups like al Qaida are not dependent on US dollars. In fact, the Wahhabis appear to have more real financial power at their disposal than we do.

              Additionally, while I do believe that Iran is greatly overrated as a military threat, it would take a pretty serious action by the Iranians to make military action against Iran sellable to the American public. The US economy is in horrible shape and the will of the American public to engage in foreign interventions is quite low. Impending military cuts may also make war with Iran less doable.

              Of course impending cuts, the sad state of the US economy, and the American public’s lack of desire to engage in foreign intervention would also greatly weaken the US’s position at the negotiating table.

              • Popsmoke

                Fred
                Back in the 70s. We killed terrorism by going after its financing. We did it then and we can do it now if we wanted to no matter our economic situation since we fair a hell of a lot better than 99% of the other country are at this moment. As far as selling the americans public is concerned? If they can buy Obama for another four years. Then they can buy anything…

                • Fred82

                  Nah,

                  Many of them bought Obama again because he ran against a candidate that got no support from his party and whose party affiliation lumped him in with the likes of Akin, Murdock, and Santorum.

                  And I doubt we could kill the Wahhabis, AQ and Co, or the MB by going after their funding. The sources of funding are diverse, extensive trade is conducted in commodities, and truly stamping out funding from the Gulf States would require covert operations in the Gulf States. At the same time, there is no international consensus on the financing of terrorist and paramilitary groups. There are many international players who are happy with things the way they are.

                  Of course given the current jackasses in DC, I doubt we will even make serious attempts.

  • Mike Monroe

    “Remember, the current missile barrage was launched at the instigation of Iran who wanted to create a worrisome diversion for the Arabs keen on deposing Iran’s Syrian ally, Bashir Assad.”

    Did you just make that up or did you hear that on FOX?

    Of course the up coming Israeli election has nothing to do with the attack? Or using “missle barrage” and “defensive” invastion as cover to continue to expand the non-stop settlements and take land has nothing to do with Israeli’s action? Or the assisination of Hamas leader Ahmed Jabari, who actually through the Brotherhood in Egypt and Egyptian intellegence was actually working/negotiating a truce to contain the violence, had nothing to do with the “current missle barrage”.

    Thank god your views and those of American conservatives about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and the continual free pass you give to Bibi are becoming an increasingly minority view around the world. Israeli should watch their step here, as the world is watching and no longer believes their bullshit.

    Attacking Hama or invading Gaza just makes things worse, which for many in Israel and likely Bibi himself is the ultimate goal. You cannot pound 1.7 million people into submission.

    • HARP2

      Tell the Germans that.

      • buzzlatte3

        Score!

        • Popsmoke

          Eh….The Germans did not fair so well afterwards..

          • buzzlatte3

            Bibi is hardly Hitler any more than Barry O is a real leader.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Somehow the POS TUS saw fit to say Israel has a right to defend herself. Do you know what would happen if missiles came raining down on this country?
      Restraint is not in play book. Make matters worse?
      Iran is telling the US to fuck off via Hamas and Israel. What does that have to do with the Jewery in Florida?

      • HObama HObamanana

        Do you know what would happen if missiles came raining down on this country?

        Seriously, do you really want to go there? We would be hearing for months that it was workplace violence at a fireworks factory.

        What gets me about idiots like the resident Obot is that they seem to think that the only reason Americans become patriotic is when their particular religious or ethnic group is threatened. To them there is no such thing as having a moral backbone; standing for something merely because standing is the right thing to do, and therefore the only thing you can do.

        So much for Tribal Mike of the Klan Obot.

        • TeakWoodKite

          Having a moral backbone is a question of relative ethics… If it’s my relative it’s ok if it’s yours then no way….

          • buzzlatte3

            Close your eyes and imagine what President Alfred E. Neuman uh…Barry Soetoro….uh Barack Obama would do….nothing.

        • Mike Monroe

          So everyone has to agree with what Israel is doing? We should just give them a free pass to do whatever they want in Gaza? That Palestinians attempting to defend themselves against a worst than an apartheid level occupation is only wrong. I can only image if America was occupied like Gaza is and its civilians were continually attacked by the IDF or one of the most powerful militaries in the world. What would Americans be doing under those conditions

          Imagine this level of surpression:

          http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ioN43hW5vfWvhLReATBl4YQzcR5Q?docId=CNG.f4d4fec426309741ec996fb87c31f219.1391

          • Hokma

            on second thought a vegatable is a genius compared to you.

      • Mike Monroe

        You have to ask yourself why Hamas even shots missles at Israel? Do you have any clue about the living conditions in Gaza? Do you know the Israel is occupying Gaza? What would Americans do if they were occupied? You guys are truly clueless. Why don’t you do a little reading/research about what Israel has been doing to the people of Gaza?

        • TeakWoodKite

          I am aware of the “living” conditions in Gaza. It’s simple. There will never be a two state solution. Annex Gaza, send Hamas and the rest of the PLO and who ever else thinks that is way to peace to Allah.
          Next.

          • Mike Monroe

            Great lets have a single state solution. That means the Palestinians also get to vote. You are aware that the Jewish population is not growing and the Palestinian population is growing much faster. That would mean at some point the Palestinian vote will eventually outnumber the Jewish vote within a single state solution Israel. I think you are pretty clueless like almost everyone on NQ to the issues of the Middle East.

            • TeakWoodKite

              The solution to this issue is having a basic understanding of why Gaza is a cesspool of Hamas and PLO’s own making.

              There are way to many agendas being played out for there to ever be a two state solution.

              So, while it is unfortunate that you missed my snark, it is equally silly of you to suggest that the residents of Gaza, what ever you wish to call them, would get a vote because they are multiplying like rabbits. When has that ever happened in any Arab country you care to name? Islam is not capable of supporting or wants to support anything but Islam.

            • Hokma

              a vegatable has more sense than you.

  • elizabethrc

    I doubt that that gentleman was from the liberal press. Who is he and for whom does he work? Refreshing, to say the least. We need far more of this sort of confrontation, something almost completely missing for the past 4 years. If no one holds their feet to the fire, expect nothing different from them.
    This Nuland woman is typical of the self important state department puppets and, like most of them, she believes that her word (and state’s) must never be questioned because she and they are embued with a knowledge far superior to that of the common American riff-raff. They must have been hand picked by Obama.

    • buzzlatte3

      The administration of clueless wonders.

      • Theymustbemorons

        I love it! Sounds like a subdivision of the endlessly corrupt Ministry of Magic.

        • buzzlatte3

          LOL!

    • elijahzabmom

      Associated Press, go to YouTube for more.

    • Fred82

      Well,

      I fail to see how getting repeatedly bent over the table by al Qaida implies possession of superior intellectual capacity or great wisdom.

  • Mike Monroe

    “has acted with remarkable restraint. Unlike the chest thumping and trash talking in the previous Gaza invasion, Bibi and company appear to understand the peril that an emotional invasion of Gaza would present.”

    Again you completely misread what is going on. The last “Gaza invasion” pretty much turned out to be a disaster for Israel. Bibi has been doing plenty of thumping of his chest and trash talking over the last few days, but he may be being more cautions or “restraint”, as you say, because the last couple of military actions by Israel did not go so well. Hamas is now even daring Bibi to invade. Bibi is playing to re-election, but his entire “invasion/targeted-assassination” strategy could easily blow-up in his face depending on how the world reacts and how any further military campaign “succeeds”. Bibi could easily over-play in cards.

  • Hokma

    Could not agree more.

    For those who know the factual history of FDR, domestic policies, as well as trhe lead up to WW II the parallels with Obama and current events is extraordinary – disturbing – but extraordinary.

  • jrterrier

    So what do you think of this: “DNI cut “al Qaeda” reference from Benghazi talking points, CIA, FBI
    signed off”
    Isn’t DNI Clapper the same joker who didn’t know there had been a foiled terrorist attack in London the very morning he appeared on TV, & also the person who asked Petreaus to resign?

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Nope. Clapper denied doing that. There is an audit trail on this.

    • randi

      Looks to me like they have come up with a ‘reasonable’ sounding story. Unless you stop to ask the obvious. Why would it take more than a MONTH to figure this out and answer such a simple question? LOL Sadly..many will buy this and move along…

    • HObama HObamanana

      The CBS story has a few glaring holes. For one thing, Petraeus is stated to have approved the Al Qaeda language. Does it make any sense that he would approve such language if, according to this report, there was “not strong confidence in the person providing the intelligence”?

      • TeakWoodKite

        So the head of the CIA approves the wording and and a campaign staffer at Motel 1600 has the authority to change it?

        • HObama HObamanana

          I would almost be willing to bet money that Axelrod made the suggestion to change it and Jarrett OKd the change.

          • elijahzabmom

            Yup. Obama’s campaign advisers are granted access to sensitive intelligence. They leaked the cyber attack news, the bin Laden raid, outed a seal team, got a helicopter of them killed, and even cut a campaign ad about it. They are playing dirty and the GOP refuse to attack.

            • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

              See my reply to TWK.

        • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

          No; and therein lies the impeachable offense. (I stressed this distinction between the Executive branch (of government) and the ‘campaign’ in my series on the launch of O’s re-election campaign in April 2011, which hit the ground running on April 27 beginning with publication of the long-form political ad, followed by an appearance on Oprah, capped off with a private fundraiser in NY…)

          • TeakWoodKite

            So what about this manipolation by unelected peeps is an impeachable offense?

            • http://twitter.com/jbjdjbjd jbjd

              Article II, section 1

              “The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

              and section 2

              “The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States…; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive
              departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices,…”

              http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

              He cannot compel a particular opinion from an Executive appointee in the security service which is intentionally designed to suit his political agenda, absent a Constitutional job description (both for that appointee AND the CiC) consistent with this conduct.

    • binky354

      “Republicans have accused her of making misleading statements by referring to the assault as a “spontaneous” demonstration by extremists. ” – This kind of political double speak makes my blood boil. She lied, dammit, she lied.

  • HARP2

    Men dragging body behind motorcycle in Gaza City. They were yelling he was a spy for Israel.

    How long before the MSM show this ?

    • http://twitter.com/TheAngieNC2 Angie

      Half-past never.

    • KenoshaMarge

      For the sake of your well being, I would not hold my breath.

  • HObama HObamanana

    This is the same Victoria Nuland that claimed she was paid to be dumb.

    MS. NULAND: Look, I’m generally dumber than most of the rest of the government. I mean, that’s what I’m paid to be.

    So is Susan Rice also paid for being dumb or was she just filling in for Nuland?

    Oh, and I recently discovered where Popsmoke and this newest resident Obot, Mike Monroe, get their talking points about the rocket attacks in Israel. I guess it should be no surprise that they come from our dear friends over at MSNBC, that bastion of unfiltered truth telling.

    Now, we do not know exactly what started this most recent round of fighting, but we do know that an Israeli air strike killed the top commander of Hamas in Gaza on Wednesday. And we know then that that was followed by rocket attacks aimed at southern Israel and then Tel Aviv and then today, Jerusalem.

    You see, no rockets were attacking Israel until they assassinated the head of the Hamas military. Those damned Israeli warmongers.

    On a more intelligent note, I read perhaps the best explanation for what is really going on in the Middle East over at Sultan Knish. I highly recommend this.

  • HObama HObamanana

    The Turkey of today is not the Turkey at it’s founding or as it was when it became a NATO “ally.” For all intents and purposes Turkey is just another Islamic state, something it’s founder was completely opposed to.

    • Hokma

      But their timing is impeccable because they have a complete feckless capitulator in Obama.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2
    • randi

      Drip, drip, drip. Drones, NDAA …. this…

    • binky354

      Protector of the people, upholder of the Constitution!

    • Hokma

      This would represent THE most serious breach of privacy in history. But this is what is required under communism.

      • buzzlatte3

        You got that right.

    • HObama HObamanana

      The questions remains as to whether the Senate Republicans or, more likely, the House Republicans will take a strong stand against this. Politically speaking, it would be an important stand for them to take. Patriotically speaking, it may be our only hope at retaining our Constitution.

  • HELENK2

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/20/cbs-office-of-the-dni-cut-al-qaeda-and-terrorism-references-from-benghazi-talking-points/

    was it clapper or someone in his office that cut out the reference to al qaeda and terrorism from benghazi talking points???

    if so how soon will he be gone?

    • Van_Dessel

      So Clapper and Morrell play three blind mice at the hearings last week, now “appointee” , whatever that means, maybe the summer intern for Georgetown, changes the “language” and Clapper and DNI signs off.

      Hello – does anyone , R or D, have any cajones to call out these guys for lying, or being complete morons? These guys couldn’t run a fruit stand. If they can’t figure out this, how do they handle mound and mounds of data from different parts of the world?

      • DianaLC

        Not sure any have “cajones,” but I hope they have “cojones.” :-)

    • binky354

      IMO, whoever cut out the reference to al-queda and terriorism did it at the behest of the leader in chief, imo.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/obama-sending-hillary-clinton-middle-east-article-1.1204961

    backtrack sending Hillary to the ME.
    that will teach her to nap through his speech

  • HELENK2

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/11/19/mainstream-media-caught-in-snarl-of-tangled-benghazi-yarns/

    now that their boy got back in will the media ask the right questions about benghazi???

    • KataKimbe

      Hell No.

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/11/20/unbelievable-obama-nlrb-sues-nursing-home-to-reinstate-seiu-union-workers-who-sabotaged-patients-records-before-they-went-on-strike/

    backtrack’s NLRB goes to court to have SEIU union workers who sabataged patients records before they went on strike reinstated

    • TeakWoodKite

      So a federal offense gets rewarded?

      • HELENK2

        in this backtrack world it does

        • TeakWoodKite

          and we have another 4 years at least to experience this? creepy.

  • HELENK2

    http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/too-few-oppressors-too-many-victims/?singlepage=true

    this article will make you stop and think about America today
    the new divisions

  • HELENK2

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/anti-israel-protesters-scatter-like-rats-when-missile-alarm-goes-off-in-jerusalem-video/

    anti- Israel protesters scatter when air raid siren goes off in Jerusalem.
    why are they running?? msnbc said the hamas rockets do not do much damage. other protesters say the rockets are like firecrackers? you don’t think they could be wrong do you??

    • Hokma

      I would love to escort the MSNBC folks to southern israel and live for just line week in ground zero for Hamas rockets and then come back and make idiot statements like that. Or, let’s save some money, and just lauch one rocket into each of their homes.

  • jrterrier

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

    • Theymustbemorons

      Same to you and yours!

    • HELENK2

      all enjoy the day.
      we in this country do have so much to be thankful for even in these times

  • HELENK2

    unions striking at west coast port per Fox News.

    random thought
    how many cargo ships sail under the US flag and why so few?

  • HELENK2

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/11/20/what-price-will-obama-make-israe-gaza-hamasl-pay/

    what price will backtrack make israel – gaza=hamas pay??

    good article – good question

    • Hokma

      Interesting that they referenced the fact that Obama is expected to go back to his attacks on Israel and drop his election year charm offensive to get the Jewish vote. I do not doubt that.

  • HELENK2
  • HELENK2

    oston.cbslocal.com/2012/11/20/facebook-photo-of-plymouth-woman-at-tomb-of-the-unknowns-sparks-outrage/

    woman at tomb of the unknown solider shows such disprespect and sparks outrage.
    thanks to all that spoke out against this person

    what the hell has been raised in this country???
    at least her company had the sense to put her on unpaid leave

  • JohnnyTwoDog

    How about this BS lead from CNN:

    (CNN) — “The longstanding conflict between Israel and the Palestinian group Hamas reignited last week after Israel launched airstrikes against what it called terrorist targets in Gaza.”

    Really? What about the thousands of rockets from Gaza into Israel during the past decade which not coincidently increased following the US POTUS election with over a thousand in the past week?
    Didn’t those Hamas rockets have anything to do with the Israeli response?

    • Hokma

      CNN was the network that aired fraudulent pix of supposed Gaza victims and then had to retract them. They are in a tough fight with MSNBC to see can be the broadcast version of the NY Times.

    • HELENK2

      to some in the msm, the rockets in the ME only go way.
      Israel to gaza. It is just firecrackers that do no harm going the other way, gaza to Israel

  • http://www.facebook.com/je.colon.3 Je Colon

    I am so impressed to finally see a reporter with big balls. This guy needs a golden pen of journalist.

  • HELENK2

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57552687-38/leahy-scuttles-his-warrantless-e-mail-surveillance-bill/

    patrick leahy scuttlies his warrentless e-mail survelliance bill.

    look what can happen when journalists do their job and report the news. he scuttled it after it was made public

  • HELENK2
  • randi

    STATEMENT BY SENATOR JOHN McCAIN ON DNI AND BENGHAZI “I am somewhat surprised and frustrated to read reports that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence was responsible for removing references to Al-Qaeda from the unclassified talking points about the Benghazi attack that Ambassador Susan Rice and other officials used in the early days after September 11, 2012. I participated in hours of hearings in the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence last week regarding the events in Benghazi, where senior intelligence officials were asked this very question, and all of them – including the Director of National Intelligence himself – told us that they did not know who made the changes. Now we have to read the answers to our questions in the media. There are many other questions that remain unanswered. But this latest episode is another reason why many of us are so frustrated with, and suspicious of, the actions of this Administration when it comes to the Benghazi attack.”

  • DianaLC

    Nuland always does this “O.K.?” thing when she is not wanting to respond. It reminds me of the uptight Home Ec teacher I had in 8th grade. She’d do the same thing if she didn’t like a question and didn’t want to discuss something.