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Newtown CT School Shooting Open Thread–UPDATE

This is so mindless and senseless. It is one thing to be angry with your parent. When that anger inspires you to shoot your mother and her class of kindergarteners, that is totally insane. There is no “explanation” for this.

I cannot begin to imagine the horror and nightmare that is now reality for those parents who lost their child today.

I’m sure you have some thoughts.

UPDATE: Well, the usual suspects have shown up in the media with the inane, feckless policy recommendations — more school security and more gun control. Yes, if we lived in a magic world where no guns existed then it would be possible to eliminate firearms and prevent them from falling into the hands of criminals and crazies.

But we don’t live in “Magic World.” We live in the real world and there is no way to eliminate firearms. So, grow up and face facts. Guns are here to stay. While Barack Obama did a great job of being mourner in chief today, he fumbled it by his lame attempt to insist that the Federal Government must do something to stop this. He still does not understand human nature.

Then there is the hysteria about school security. JESUS JUDAS AND JOSEPH!! Has anyone paid attention to the fact that the school where this incident took place had a lockout policy in place? The kid who shot up the place was buzzed into the school by someone. A sad reminder that there is no such thing as fool proof security.

I’m sure some will insist a cop should have been at the door checking all people trying to gain entrance. That will be fine until the day comes that the cop at the door in some obscure part of our country has a mental meltdown and decides to go Columbine on the school he is supposed to protect.

Then there is the Geraldo Rivera hysteria. What a total ass he is. Rivera was describing this as the worst thing ever. Are you kidding me? Rivera believes this is worse than the ONE MILLION JEWISH CHILDREN exterminated during the Holocaust? Like I said, what an ass.

This was a terrible thing. We will find out in the coming days that the kid who did this probably attended this school and was considered emotionally disturbed. But the kid’s motives for going postal are irrelevant.

His actions are a stark reminder that there is shit in this world that is bad and, unfortunately, beyond our control. Deal with it.

  • bbf

    There have been reports that nearly all of the mass murder shooters in the US have been on prescription drugs..and that this is being ignored.

    AND…..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/17/us-killings-tragedies-pakistan-bug-splats

    Mere words cannot match the depths of your sorrow, nor can they heal your wounded hearts … These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change.” Every parent can connect with what President Barack Obama said about the murder of 20 children in Newtown, Connecticut. There can scarcely be a
    person on earth with access to the media who is untouched by the grief of the people of that town.

    It must follow that what applies to the children murdered
    there by a deranged young man also applies to the children
    murdered in Pakistan by a sombre American president. These
    children are just as important, just as real, just as deserving
    of the world’s concern. Yet there are no presidential speeches
    or presidential tears for them, no pictures on the front pages
    of the world’s newspapers, no interviews with grieving
    relatives, no minute analysis of what happened and why.

    If the victims of Mr Obama’s drone strikes are mentioned by
    the state at all, they are discussed in terms which suggest that they are less than human. The people who operate the drones, Rolling Stone magazine reports, describe
    their casualties as “bug splats”, “since viewing the body
    through a grainy-green video image gives the sense of an insect being crushed”. Or they are reduced to vegetation: justifying the drone war, Obama’s counterterrorism adviser Bruce Riedel explained that “you’ve got to mow the lawn all the time. The minute you stop mowing, the grass is going to grow back”.

  • bbf

    SCHOOL SHOOTERS ON PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fjLug2b-HM

  • Pat Douglas

    “the usual suspects have shown up in the media with the inane, feckless policy recommendations”

    Yeah, all those Republican morons have shown up to suggest that we arm the teachers and the personnel in our grade schools. Put more guns into our schools.

    We have clearly reached a tipping point and the country will no longer tolerate the merchant of death gun manufacturer lobbyist the NRA. The NRA actually had to take down their Facebook page. They will continue to feel the wrath of the American people.

    You want to carry water for the NRA and the gun manufacturers then go right ahead. Bloomberg defeated 4 out of 7 congressmen that he targeted with funds who supported the NRA in the last elected. More will follow.

    “The kid who shot up the place was buzzed into the school by someone.”

    You should check your facts. The murderer shot his way into the school by breaking the glass door with several shots and then walked in through the broken door.

    “Deal with it.”

    We will deal with it. We are going to inact much tougher gun laws. The NRAs days are numbered. They do not even represent their members any more.

    Reducing the number of guns in this society, eliminating assault weapons and large clips, and much tougher background checks will make a big difference and will be a good start

  • HObama HObamanana

    Another senseless episode of violence against innocents with politicians on all sides all too willing to act as if they actually give a damn. These innocent humans were murdered because a lunatic murdered them. Where was Obamacare to stop him, to save them, to protect us?

    If this lunatic had merely murdered his mother do you think a single politician would utter a word of concern?

    Let’s have an honest discussion about mental illness because that is what caused this senseless tragedy. Instead of politicizing the tragedy let’s pretend to be adults for a while and solve the cause of this madness.

  • MG6
  • Popsmoke

    It only gets worse…. Its not the threat maker… Its the guy who just does it….

    http://m.upi.com/story/UPI-62651355691683/

  • HELENK2

    off topic

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/12/gov-dossiers-on-us-citizens/

    I would not trust holder and his dept of crime with directions to the front door

  • HELENK2

    http://news.yahoo.com/connecticut-church-near-shooting-evacuated-bomb-threat-180742511.html

    sometimes I really do not like people. this idiot getting his jollies off at other people’s pain

    bomb threat at church near shooting

    • HELENK2

      Confirmed that threat phoned in to St. Rose of Lima in Newtown. All
      activities canceled for the rest of day. Scene under control.

  • Popsmoke

    The press is just as bad as social media in reporting this case. But most of these reporters are blowing smoke as in excuses when it comes to shoddy reporting. Bullshit they are all caught up in this tragedy! This has absolutely shit to do with getting caught up in anything but ratings, scoops and pultzers! Yeah, they are so caught up in the moment that these asses are interviewing 6 year olds….
    How the fuck producers and or executive producers as well as editors are allowing crap to go on the air or in print is dam near criminal.
    Three cheers for the CT State Police to blast away at this crap. But of course the Third Estate only heard the social media comment!

    • FloridaFI

      My question would be, “What Parent would allow any of their juvenile children appear on TV?!” Don’t they care about personal privacy or are their children just personal trophies to present to the world?

  • HELENK2

    http://ace.mu.nu/

    one major problem in trying to get treatment for mentally ill in this country

    • Hokma

      I was watching to morning shows and was impressed by some who understood that passing a gun law will do nothing – that this is a problem much broader to do with mental health and with a violent culture.

      There were some like the typical ignorant lefties that think that passing some gun law will be the cure or even do any good at all.

      But on MTP David Gregory was advocating a much broader look at this issue which included mental health and the culture of violence.

      Retiring Senator Joe Lieberman of CT had the idea of having a commission on mass violence to more thoughtfully look at this issue and arrive at more effective solutions. I think it would be a sound idea and Obama should name him to head such a commission.

      • wylrae

        Problem with Obama naming anyone to head a commission is that he will more than likely follow its recommendations much in the manner he has with his Simpson/Boiles(?) commission. Any findings or recommendations will just lay on the shelf collecting dust.

  • getfitnow
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  • getfitnow

    An excellent article by Jazz at HotAir. check out the last paragraph.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/15/a-second-mass-shooting-avoided-on-friday/