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Get Out Now, or Get Out Later

(bumped up by Lena Grove aka nasuS from Thursday night, because this is a very, very important article that I hope someone prints out for PEBO and places on top of his reading material — and soon. During the campaigns, PEBO’s machismo saber rattling regarding Afghanistan and the Afghan/Pakistan border was so very silly and sadly naive. A good parent needs to have a sit down with the dangerously ignorant PEBO and tell him the “facts of life” regarding that region and its ferocious people.)



Originally published at AntiWar.com.

Author: Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, is a contributing editor to The American Conservative and a fellow at the American Conservative Defense Alliance. Philip Giraldi and Larry Johnson are longtime friends and associates.

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Either way, we’ll be leaving. Thanksgiving week was remarkable because it may have witnessed the last nails being driven into the coffin of America’s ongoing colonial enterprise. On Tuesday, Afghan President Hamid Karzai angrily denounced the creation of a parallel carpetbagger government to be run by the United States and NATO in his country. He demanded a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign soldiers, noting that his countrymen no longer understand what the fighting is all about, particularly as they hear of wedding parties and school outings being blasted by the helicopters and warplanes of their ostensible allies.

Karzai asked rhetorically how the insurgency can keep getting stronger when most of the world is united in an attempt to defeat it, and he reiterated his intention to negotiate with the Taliban leaders to bring peace.

On Thanksgiving Day itself, by a narrow margin, the Iraqi parliament voted for a new status of forces agreement (SOFA) with the United States that will go into effect on Jan. 1, 2009. The neoconservatives have predictably declared that the SOFA represents victory, even though they have not read the document itself, which no one outside of the administration has seen in its English version. Leaks of the Arabic version and the horse-trading that preceded the ratification suggest that the final agreement was something less than a triumph for the Bush White House. Thousands of Iraqis demonstrated against a continued American presence, and there was virtually no interest in permitting either the open-ended U.S. military commitment or the immunity for American forces Washington demanded. U.S. forces reportedly can no longer detain Iraqi citizens, and both soldiers and contractors will be subject to Iraqi courts for serious crimes. American troops will be gone from Iraq’s cities by June 2009 and completely gone from the country by the end of 2011. The four major military bases envisioned to maintain a long-term American presence will never materialize, and the huge embassy on the banks of the Tigris will serve more as a mausoleum to American ambitions than as a seat of power for a U.S. viceroy.

Intelligence sources are also gloomy in their predictions, with some assessments indicating that deeply rooted antipathy toward the U.S. presence could drive American forces out of Iraq sooner rather than later, the SOFA notwithstanding. Iraq will eventually find its own way forward, though probably with much blood and suffering, but if there is one thing for sure it is that the United States will in all likelihood be neither a friend nor an ally to whatever type of government emerges. Dislike of Washington runs deep in all the political groups that make up the country, with the exception of the Kurds, who are seeking to leverage American support into their own independence, an objective strongly resisted by both Sunni and Shi’ite Arabs. Likewise in Afghanistan the United States will almost certainly be eventually viewed as just one more in a long series of invaders, all of whom were eventually defeated and left the country.

That the Afghans are demanding a timetable for Washington to leave and that the Iraqis have already set a deadline is remarkable, and it speaks to the declining role and possible irrelevance of the United States to what is going on in the Near East. If the United States has retained a shred of decency, then it will hopefully be willing to go when it is asked to do so. Apart from shoring up the unpopular regimes in place in both Afghanistan and Iraq to permit some sort of political settlement, Washington is no longer the essential nation in a region that it had set out to dominate by force of arms seven years ago. In a regional context, the removal of Saddam Hussein coupled with a blundering occupation and a failed reconstruction in both Iraq and Afghanistan has reinvigorated the terrorist threat and has empowered only Iran.

So what does the turn of events in Iraq and Afghanistan mean vis-à-vis Barack Obama’s foreign policy? Obama is only a "peace" candidate in relative terms, having committed himself to negotiating before he bombs. He has said that he will stay in Iraq as long as the generals recommend it, and he has not explicitly disowned the current U.S. policies of preemptive warfare and nation-building. He appears willing to consider regime change if it is applied selectively. Ever resolute in his AIPAC-fueled pledge to stop the Iranian nuclear program, he has also supported intervention in new regions like Darfur where the United States has no conceivable national interest. He has even out-Republicaned the Republicans in his pledge to use U.S. troops to aggressively pursue terrorists inside nuclear-armed Pakistan, an act of war that would further destabilize that unhappy land.

Wanting to draw down in Iraq and increase troop strength in Afghanistan, Obama is embracing taking one failed policy and transferring it somewhere else in hopes that it will succeed. He is also ignoring sage advice. The British and French have already indicated that the Afghan conflict cannot be won in any conventional sense, making the NATO commitment to the war questionable, to say the least. Even Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has stated that the United States cannot kill its way to victory in Afghanistan, indicating somewhat obliquely that he does not believe any surge in troop levels will provide a long-term solution.

The fact is that Barack Obama’s foreign policy is just Bush-lite: it embraces the principle that the judicious use of force is a good thing and that Washington should properly be the world’s policeman. Many Democratic stalwarts, including party leaders Steny Hoyer, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi, are at heart interventionists. Obama’s foreign policy team is troubling, most particularly in the choice of Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff and of Hillary "Obliterate Iran" Clinton as his secretary of state. There has been some speculation that Obama is preempting criticism by AIPAC in naming two of the most pro-Israeli hawks in Congress to key positions, providing him with the political cover that he needs to pursue a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. The analogy of Nixon going to China is sometimes cited, suggesting that only someone with a sustained record of criticism of an adversary would have the political credibility to take the bold steps necessary to shift the political playing field. But that analysis ignores a critical element, which is that changing China policy did not lead to confrontation with a major domestic constituency seeking to block any agreement. AIPAC would oppose giving anything to the Palestinians at the expense of Israel, and it has demonstrated that it has a de facto veto over Washington’s Middle East policy. Can anyone truly believe that Hillary Clinton will take a hard line with Israel, demanding that Tel Aviv stop and even roll back its settlement activity? Without such a bold step, no viable peace agreement is possible.

The other Obama foreign policy hypothesis, that Hillary Clinton will serve as a dutiful and obedient secretary of state carrying out the president’s policies reliably and without demur, is also little more than speculation. On the contrary, Clinton’s history and her thinly veiled ambitions would suggest the opposite, and her husband, a perpetual loose cannon on deck, also cannot be relied upon to be a team player. It is much more likely that Obama, recognizing that he is vulnerable on foreign policy and knowing that he will be watched closely, has decided to pursue a foreign policy that both AIPAC and Hillary will be comfortable with, which means that the Palestinians can kiss the next four years good-bye and Iran better look to its defenses.

Or maybe Obama, an intelligent man who appears to have a conscience, will quickly discover that Washington no longer has the resources to intervene by force when and where it chooses. The United States might find itself compelled to bring home the regiments and aircraft carriers as the burden of empire becomes insupportable, as in Rudyard Kipling’s poem "Recessional" predicting the end of the British Empire: "Lo, all our pomp of yesterday is one with Nineveh and Tyre." Iraq and Afghanistan both want the United States to leave, but on their timetable. Perhaps it would be appropriate to move that timetable up in America’s own national interest and leave now before Washington truly becomes Nineveh on the Potomac.

  • caligirl

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24750906-23109,00.html
    Is this the “crisis” Biden and Powell were talking about? hmmmm

  • caligirl

    http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-12-03-voa15.cfm
    or maybe it’s this “crisis”!
    Let’s see how many Obama will have on his hands. May God help us all!!!

    • oowawa

      Here a crisis, there a crisis, oh well. I remember a certain president saying “Bring ‘em on.” It’ll be interesting to see how Mr. O responds to crises, how or if he can say “Okay, put your dukes up.”

  • Baba Rum Raisin

    So, “Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean,” becomes another quaint song on the order of, “Rule Britannia.”

    The coming Obamacracy will be grist for the Conservative mills, making O and M the new, “Big Hair and caviar,” gifts to the disenfranchised audience of Hannity, Limbaugh, et al as the question is raised: “Who Lost (fill in the blank)?”

    We did as well as could be expected gaining, as we did, the former British and French colonial empires for a Dollar Down and a Dollar A Week at the end of WWII.

    I think that the Japanese and Germans are rested up pretty well by now, and the Indians want to tread the boards at the Globe Theater of Geopolitik.

    Anyone have a translation of, “Laissez les bons temps roule,” into Punjabi?

    • oowawa

      Baba Rum Raisin, your blogname and the agility of your rhetoric are almost intimidating. It’s like you’re a calypso singer with a PhD in snarkology.

  • oowawa

    Obama, an intelligent man who appears to have a conscience

    Have we seen any convincing evidence of this “conscience”?

    At any rate, thanks Mr. Giraldi for the bleak sobering report. But the holidays are almost upon us. I think I need the opposite of “sobering” right about now.

    • Baba Rum Raisin

      How about the thought of never writing a check to the IRS for your support of, “GLOBAL POWER PROJECTION,” again?

      (“Pay no attention to the 600 ship Navy, tied up and rusting away in the James River behind the curtain!”)

    • Strawberrybitch

      Yeah, he pretty much lost me with that statement too, oowawa. A man with a conscience wouldn’t let the people in his own district die from cold and heat.

    • Andrew P

      A clear case of “appearances can be deceptive.”

      Not that I’ve seen any evidence myself.

  • caligirl
  • fiscalliberal

    Obama is on the record of building up Afghanistan. I wonder if NATO will be there to help us with the global recession affecting home fronts and Karzide making these type of comments.

    Powell at State followed by Rice has resulted in a net zero in the Middle East. Now we have Obama with the ultimate solution “Hope”.

    Some how I think Hillary is going to have buyers remorse in giving up the Senate.

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    • stodgie

      no, i don’t see a hard line with israel no matter what some of the obots want. it isn’t going to happen. there may and probably will be some softening around the edges for the arabs i think, but wholesale turn around? hell no!

  • thatsnottheissue

    “The other Obama foreign policy hypothesis, that Hillary Clinton will serve as a dutiful and obedient secretary of state carrying out the president’s policies reliably and without demur, is also little more than speculation. On the contrary, Clinton’s history and her thinly veiled ambitions would suggest the opposite, and her husband, a perpetual loose cannon on deck, also cannot be relied upon to be a team player…….”

    Because of this highlighted quote above, I’ll add my own speculation and say to you Philip Giraldi …… je rie nsi. Translated.. Go Eat Poop/Shxt/F#@ces/Dung. There! Take your pick.

    • oowawa

      je rie nsi. Translated.. Go Eat Poop/Shxt/F#@ces/Dung. There! Take your pick.

      Well, that’s certainly cutting through the rhetoric! That also bothered me–”a perpetual loose cannon on deck”–he was POTUS, and an army of opponents continually tried to undermine his presidency. He WAS the deck, but there were loose cannons all over the place trying to sabotage his presidency.

  • Helen with a T.

    I seem to recall that early on in the first Clinton administration or perhaps before it took office that Hillary Clinton was soundly criticized because she openly said that a two state solution was what should occur. It took a long time before anyone else would dare say this. And I recall how hard Bill Clinton worked to bring this about. I still have faint hopes that it will happen.

    • pm317

      I wonder why she ends up being so misunderstood. Even in this post, the author does not seem to appreciate what she has to offer in terms of her intellect and plain pragmatism.

      • scorbs

        Here, here pm317. I agree totally.

        I wish the clinton-bashers and the clinton-detractors (sneakier in their attacks with jabs here and there) were dismissed, but Chris Matthews apparently makes $5 million a year, and he made his name doing that.

  • ablebodied

    You know, I’ve learned to take unsubstantiated and unsupported ‘facts’, ‘opinions’, ‘predictions’, etc.. about the Clintons with ‘throwing some salt over my shoulder’. That’s to dry up the slimy slugs that want to follow you home uninvited.

    It’s like no-one feels the slightest bit compelled to provide anything in the way of support for what is claimed. When it’s concerning the Clintons, it seems to be supported with absolutely no push back.

    Sucks!!

    • JIB

      I think those who routinely Clinton bash are marked as kind of kookoo, and simply ignored.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    And now the original plan unfolds: the Husein card is out
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/speechifying-the-muslims/

    • stodgie

      obama is about as dumb as that nitwit on msnbc who thought that by electing obama, terrorism would stop. these people don’t give a horse’s behind about obama. that has already been shown and will be again and again. even the dumbest americans will get it after awhile. if the one actually thinks making a speech will help him with them, he is a major dumbo! i recall a cartoon out on obama during the campaign where all the bad guys were having a meeting and obama calls, they laugh at him and lie to him. i think it is pretty accurate even though it was a cartoon.

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Intersting read AND it scares the s**t out of me.

  • scorbs

    The Clinton comments turned me off to the import of what the author is trying to say.

  • Linda C.

    My biggest fear is that Obama approaches everything as if it was a Harvard Law Review meeting.