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Sy Hersh Exposes Obama Lies on Syria

He may be old but he’s still young at heart when it comes to investigative journalism. I am talking about that crusty, cantankerous guy whose record for breaking seminal news stories has no parallel. He was the first to expose CIA spying inside the United States during the Vietnam War. He broke the details about the mass murder of Vietnamese at My Lai at the hands of US troops in the 1970s and blew the whistle on US torture of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. And today? He’s out with a story in the London Review of Books exposing how Barack Obama lied to the American public and tried to build a false case for going to war in Syria last September.

Yahoo News boils down the key revelations:

The administration buried intelligence on the fundamentalist group/rebel group al-Nusra. It was seen, Hersh says, as an alarming threat by May, with the U.S. being aware of al-Nusra member able to make and use sarin, and yet the group – associated with the rebel opposition in Syria – was never considered a suspect in the sarin attacks. Hersh refers to a top-secret June cable sent to the deputy director of the Defense Intelligence Agency that said al-Nusra could acquire and use sarin. But the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Office of the Defense Intelligence Agency could not find the document in question, even when given its specific codes. . . .

The administration was learning about the attack at roughly the same speed civilians were. Hersh says the thorough daily intelligence briefings in the days surrounding the gas attack did not make a single mention of Syria, even as videos and photos of the attack went viral across the Internet. He added that there was revealed a sensor system in Syria that had, in December 2012, shown sarin production at a chemical weapons depot arranged by the Syrian army. Though it was unclear whether this was a simulation or not – all militaries, Hersh says, practice simulations of such things – Obama promptly warned Syria that use of sarin gas would be “unacceptable.”

‘If what the sensors saw last December was so important that the president had to call and say, “Knock it off,” why didn’t the president issue the same warning three days before the gas attack in August?’. . . .

The media succumbed to confirmation bias in response to a UN report on the attack. That report, which is less than certain in its terms, said that the spent weapon “indicatively matches” the specifics of a 330mm calibre artillery rocket. MIT professor Theodore Postol and other munitions experts later reviewed the photos and said that it was improvised, likely made locally, didn’t match anything in the Syrian arsenal and would not have been able to travel the nine kilometres from the Syrian army base that the media presumed it was fired from.

Amy Goodman, not exactly known as an Obama hater, had Sy on this morning to talk about the Obama Administration’s push back on the story:

The story reported by Sy Hersh is compelling and well documented. It merits the attention of thoughtful people.

UPDATE–Normally, I would let the inane comments of the Obot “TOM,” (his comments are below) go without further comment. But this is too funny. You need to know more about what total tool of a clown this pathetic soul is. Meet Fissherman Tom.

To reiterate the point I made about Sy’s article–it merits the attention of thoughtful people. This buffoon, Tom, is not thoughtful.

  • Tom

    This Larry Johnson post kind of reminds me of his original post promoting the BS 60 Minutes story on Benghazi, which proved to be completely false.

    How about this:

    “On Monday, Shawn Turner, a spokesman for the Director of National Intelligence, called Hersh’s reporting “simply false.”

    “The intelligence clearly indicated that the Assad regime and only the Assad regime could have been responsible for the 21 August chemical weapons attack,” he said in a statement to The Hill. “The suggestion that there was an effort to suppress intelligence about a nonexistent alternative explanation is simply false.”

    Hersh, a longtime contributor to The New Yorker, is responsible for some of the most groundbreaking reports on U.S. intelligence since the Vietnam War, having exposed atrocities ranging from the My Lai massacre to Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse. Still, the fact that his article ran in the LRB has raised some flags.

    According to reports, both The New Yorker and The Washington Post passed on Hersh’s article. The New Yorker did not comment on the decision; Hersh said he was informed by Post editor Marty Baron “that the sourcing in the article did not meet the Post’s standards.” He went to LRB instead.”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/white-house-sy-hersh-report-false-179164.html

    • Tom

      or how about this:

      Sy Hersh’s Chemical Misfire - What the legendary reporter gets wrong about Syria’s sarin attacks.

      http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/12/09/sy_hershs_chemical_misfire#sthash.6Ncd88CI.dpbs

      “Seymour Hersh, the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, published an article over the weekend that calls into question who really launched the chemical weapons attack that brought the United States to the brink of war in Syria. In particular, Hersh focuses on the munitions used in the Aug. 21 sarin strike, widely blamed on Bashar al-Assad’s regime. He raises doubts about whether the Syrian government would have used the munitions, which he claims were likely improvised and manufactured at a local machine shop; he asks whether they had the range to reach their targets from a distant military base; and he wonders aloud whether it could have been al Qaeda-affiliated rebels who carried out the attack.

      But Hersh is apparently unaware that there’s a growing body of evidence that answers these questions. Much of that evidence comes from the Syrian military itself — and it very strongly suggests that it was Assad’s cronies, not the rebels, who carried out the Aug. 21 attack.

      Since the attack, myself and others have been studying the vast amount of open-source information posted online on sites like YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, which has provided many more pieces of evidence about what happened in the Damascus suburbs that day. This information not only answers many of the questions Hersh’s article raises, but has also provided a much greater understanding of other events in the Syrian conflict. “

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        But you have not seen the classified info. Sy did have access to that. That’s part of the reason you don’t know what in the hell you are yammering about.

        • Tom

          You have a history Larry Johnson of promoting conspiracies that do not transpire into anything at all. That is what you do and what you have become. Sad really for a guy who use to have something to say. Now it is all about unsubstantiated accusations. Your “sources” are all dried up and/or all about politics like yourself.

          • Retired_from_SPOnaj

            Yeah, take that, Larryjohnson!

      • Deapster

        Obama is running scared. Hersh hit a home run.

        • Tom

          The Hersh story has gone exactly no where. Just like most of the BS on NoQuarter.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      You are a total fucking moron. Please show me the post on me promoting the 60 Minutes Story on Benghazi. You can’t asshole because I never posted on that because I saw nothing new in the 60 Minutes reporting.

      So typical of you–you just make shit up. As for the spokesman for Jim Clapper accusing Sy of getting his facts wrong, that’s rich. Clapper is a proven liar while Sy has a 44 year record of telling the truth. You want to believe the liar? Figures.

      • Retired_from_SPOnaj

        Larry, You are being stalked. Better start wearing steel briefs.

        • Tom

          Are you going to lie again….? It is a pattern with you. Your promote a BS story line on Benghazi, but then you were one of the first to write a post to say that Stevens was attacked by a mob and drag through the streets. You then conveniently washed your website of that first post by deleting it. You also straight out lie that you do not ban commentators or delete their posts, but you do it all the time. You promoted that BS 60 Minutes piece by initially writing a post on it and included the video. After it turned out to be total BS you came back and wrote a second piece admitting it was BS, but only after you had no choice and after your first promotional post.

          • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

            Haven’t washed anything. And, despite your delusion, I did not “promote” the 60 Minutes piece. Reporting that a report is going to air is called “news.” No where did I endorse or praise the 60 Minutes piece. Do you even actually read the posts or is your attention span limited to the headlines? What I did point out, correctly I might add, is that there is a continuing cover up by the Obama Administration. Included in this are lies by Hillary Clinton. Documented lies.

    • Deapster

      The CBS Benghazi program had one person who had conflicted testimony. That is not “completely” false”. You know it. We know it. Don’t waste your electrons, Tom.

      If CBS failed, it was because it plowed no new ground and the Logan was dressed like a hooker.

  • HELENK2

    is there no end to the just plain stupidty?

    white house picture from Manela’ memorial

    “We can choose a world defined not by our differences—but by our common hopes.” —Obama at Mandela’s memorial service: pic.twitter.com/GQdSdMLl8h

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      I’ve started a new thread on President Juvenile and his flirting with the Danish leader.

      • Deapster

        Obama looked like the kid who got noticed by the popular kids and is salivating to be as cool as they are. Not.

  • MG6
    • HELENK2

      good for him. wish more would speak out

  • HELENK2

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_FRANCE_AFGHANISTAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-12-10-08-12-47

    karzai complaining again against the US.
    screw him, bring the military home and do not leave on bit of equipment for him to sell or turn over to the taliban.
    as far as training the Afghans if they have not learned by now they do not want to learn

    • binky354

      That’s what we’d do, what we should do, but not those weasels at the helm.

  • HELENK2

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/12/10/obama-shakes-blood-stained-hand-of-mass-murderer-robert-mugabe/

    the other handshake that somehow got dropped from NBC news release

    • KlugerRD

      I watched it all on DVR and I don’t think Obama even knew who these people were. Remember, the only way he knows anything is when he sees it after the fact on TV news.

      • Deapster

        I think so too. Unless he has his teleprompte or ValJar running interference, any port in the storm is good enough for the Eternal Campaigner.

        Obama did not even know who his top bundlers were. Why would he know who the leaders of other countries are?

  • ME

    I wonder what the intelligence community is thinking about all this? Wapo had an article the other day about how the NSA was not feeling the Obama-love. Apparently he hasn’t visited them or shown any support since the Snowden revelations. The general public and the big tech companies are getting angry about privacy issues. Combine the spying scandal with the President’s cherry picking of intelligence and tendency to throw people under the bus and it seems like a storm may be brewing.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Having just spoken to selected acquaintances in the intelligence community during a recent visit to DC, I feel pretty confident in saying that the general consensus was that they are feeling abandoned by an unprincipled, cowardly POTUS who is completely “run” by his key advisors and fundamentally not up to the job of being either the CEO or the CIC. But then, what do they know? Some of them just have to meet with him twice a month or so.

      • binky354

        Abandoned? They of all people should have known better than to support him in the first place.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          It’s not a matter of “support” with regard to Obama. It’s a matter of “support and defend the Constitution of the United States.” That is what our oath says, and it’s a lifetime commitment.
          Most presidents understand the fundamental concepts of leadership with regard to the loyalty of the leader to his subordinates. President Obama seems to be an exception to this.

  • HARP2

    Barry will be riding in the back of Air Force One on the way home.

    • elizabethrc

      It’s when pictures like this and the one showing Sarkozy’s beautiful wife laughing while Michelle has an ugly scowl on her face, that we see the true Michelle.
      I don’t think she can abide white folks.
      She is truly a disgruntled misfit.

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        Not fair. I find her having a lot more class than Barry. She’s like any wife who gets pissed when her husband acts like a damn teenager with another woman.

        • elizabethrc

          You’re too generous! If you had a wife like Michelle, would you begrudge yourself the teenager thingy?

          • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

            I don’t mess with she who must be obeyed

        • DianaLC

          Agree–this is supposed to be a solemn occasion.

        • KlugerRD

          Agree. Michelle was the only one with maturity. Cameron and Obama were like two frat boys taking a photo with Miss Denmark.

          • Deapster

            Blond chicks still rule.

        • ME

          I can’t attack Michelle. I’ve never forgotten her honesty back when the Chicago press asked her if she thought hubby should run for president. She laughed and implied he simply wasn’t up for the job, so it was a ridiculous idea. They quickly got her some handlers.

    • KenoshaMarge

      How tacky. POTUS taking a selfie.

      • S7teen70six

        At least it’s not a selfie of his penis. ValJar is nowhere in sight.

    • HELENK2
  • foxyladi14
    • Deapster

      How many times did Obama bash Americans he does not like? He saved that nugget for his final flourish. The guy creeps me out.

      He needed a side trip to Zimbabwe to see how all that “wealth distribution” is working out if he wanted to bow and scrape before another petty dictator besides Raul Castro.

  • foxyladi14
  • Tom

    I actually like Sy Hersh. He is a good investigative reporter. A rarity these days. But, it is interesting that both the Washington Post and his usual outlet The New Yorker both passed on publishing this story. The WP said it did not meet their standards for reporting. I guess one to many anonymous sources. However, the story more than meets the Larry Johnson standard. By the way Larry Johnson, where is that Russian report you promised us that would prove that the Rebels were responsible for the sarin attack? Still waiting?

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      You are delusional. How can I make a promise about a Russian report I’ve never seen. My info has nothing to do with any Russian report. As Sy’s piece makes very clear, the US intelligence did not support the initial Obama claims that the Syrian military was responsible for what happened on 21 August. You clearly have trouble keeping even simple facts straight.

      • Deapster

        Your conclusions were obvious to anyone paying the slightest attention to the unfolding of events Obama needed to take the heat off his IRS and Benghazi scandals.

        WH created a scenario to try and make BHO look more important than mere domestic scandals blowing up in his face, and then tried to fit the facts to their necessary scenario.

        We saw this then and Hersh only proves this indeed is what thee BHO WH in fact did.

        The WH is all about trying to make BHO look good. We know who the players are but more importantly we instantly can see through their game. They have become too insular to know the rest of the world in growing numbers has also caught on.

        Loved that photo op of the ValJar phoning it in to Oblamo at Mandela funeral. Like Batman and Robin.

      • binky354

        What a nut case! The video did provide a minute of entertainment. :)

      • Tom

        Larry Johnson in one of your posts a few months ago you told us that you were expecting the Russians to shortly release a report that would prove that the Rebels were responsible for the sarin gas attack. Where is that report… probably gone the way of the Whitey Tapes I suspect…

        Why did the WP and the New Yorker refuse to publish this Sy Hersh piece…

    • Deapster

      Yippee, the obots prove they are worried big time about this bombshells in this Hersh expose of BHO. Big Time.

      Deny+Dismiss+Divert+Denigrate=Democrats

      • Tom

        just answer the simple question: what exactly did Obama lie about? Simple question!

        Any one?

        Any one?

        Funny, people talk a lot of smack on here, including Larry Johnson, but you all still cannot answer my simple question.. pathetic!

    • Deapster

      Fess up Tom, what is your personal vendetta against LJ all about. You are exposing yourself with every post.

      Should we wait it out until you by pattern of posting drop your smoking gun, or do you want to fess up now and save everyone’s time.

      You are out to get LJ; not clear up the facts. This has become painfully obvious you have something very personal in this game.

  • DianaLC

    Here is the most important thing I got from this post that came at the very end of the second video. In Hersh’s opinion Obama did NOT choose the American people’s opinion fro not bombing Syria. Hersh said Obama chose not to bomb Syria because he did not have a case and because there was push back from “Constitutionally-minded” people in the Pentagon. Thank God for those people.
    I am now confused as to why Hersh can still think Obama is a brillian POTUS. But at least he did know that what Obama tried to do was a very bad thing.
    And thank you very much, and I also am thankful that there are old-time crusty journalists like Hersh who don’t just ask the easy questions that don’t get anywhere.

    • DianaLC

      And to answer my own question about Hersh, I have to believe that the problem with the left is their basic secular “humanism” and their belief in the ability of human brainpower.
      The Father of Lies is very smart indeed. Some of the most evil people in the world–master criminals, brutal criminals, are very intelligent. The problem with that is that there is no humility and no respect for what humans can’t know and what only God can know–there is no respect for long-time moral truths that have held up over the millennia. It’s pure hubris.

      • Deapster

        Obama has a canny ability to position himself in what he judges is the most favorable light. The cumulative effect of his constant self-aggrandizement has become a national turn-off.

      • elizabethrc

        Obama suffers from amorality. Far worse than merely being immoral, he has no clue of anything regarding morality and seems to feel he has no limitations he need observe.

    • Tom

      As a completely independent reporter and completely outside the WH, how the hell would Hersh have any clue about why Obama made the decisions he did? By the way, ultimately Obama eliminated the chemical threat and got Assad to give up his chemicals without firing a shot… yes, brilliant Obama!

      • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

        It is called investigative journalism. That includes interviewing people who do have access or were participants in decisions. It also includes getting access to documents. But let’s turn this around, what the hell are your qualifications to question a proven journalist? What accomplishments do you have that entitle you to be taken seriously as a critic? Hell, I just posted a video of you wearing a bra on your head and pretending to be Jewish. You are an anti-Semitic putz.

        • Deapster

          WH hires low level staffers to monitor the social media. Tom gets paid to be a party hack and too young to know he is doing a disservice to his boss; and not helping BHO at all.

          But this fits the ValJar WH: do everything you can to make BHO look good. The Law of Diminishing Returns is the better name for this project.

      • DianaLC

        Yes, inddeed, Obama did that while Putin pulled him by the scruff of his neck to the table.
        See the video above and Larry’s comments below your first post.

      • noway

        my cat is smarter than obama. nitwit!

      • Deapster

        Russia brokered that deal, obot. Not Obama. Were you asleep during those trying days. Putin told Obama how high he had to jump, and Obama had to do exactly that.

        No point rewriting such recent history only a few short months ago. You simply cannot mess with living history. Too many of live outside the WH cocoon, Tom.

        Obama can only claim your super-powers status by tackling and cleaning up the messes he constantly creates himself. Though that would really be only a net effect; not a win but at least a chance to avoid more losses.

      • TeakWoodKite

        As a completely independent reporter and completely outside the WH, how the hell would Hersh have any clue about why Obama made the decisions he did? “

        Thanks for my first laugh of the day. So much for your critical thinking skills. That is funny as as all get.

    • Deapster

      Obama is not a buffoon. He is single-mindedly devoted to his own cause. Which is himself.

  • HELENK2
    • Deapster

      Perfect term of this WH Out House. The irony of that term so noted.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/saudis_to_obama_we_will_not_tolerate_a_nuclear_iran.html

    Saudi’s send message to backtrack…..we will not tolerate a nuclear Iran

  • elizabethrc

    This whole Administration has gotten out of control. Now they’re spying on our kids’ video games now.
    We are living in a police state, in case anyone failed to notice. It’s going to get a lot worse unless Obama is stopped.
    Where is our Congress, which swore to uphold the Constitution first and foremost? Have they abdicated?
    Can they be removed for violating their oath of office?

  • 0getfitnow1

    o/t but, does this idiot ever show up on time? and check the photo of him waving – at a memorial service. and FLOTUS in lace, well at least it’s black. No class.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521225/President-Obama-flies-South-Africa-Mandela-memorial-event-alongside-George-W-Bush-Hillary-Clinton.html

  • Popsmoke

    This the same group that McCain ane Graham wanted to arm as well? Throw all of the office holders out during the mid-terms to send a message…..

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      As one who used to do the arming, as well as one with a bit of experience in the Near East morass, I am quite skeptical about arming “sides” in Syria. The trouble is, the “side” that one is arming today might become the wrong “side” tomorrow. Or the wrong “side” might just kick “our” side’s ass to get the cool weaponry and gear that we have provided And if the weaponry is MANPADs or some other type of uberlethal, nondiscriminatory variety (MANPADs can’t tell the difference between a Syrian military aircraft and a Boeing airliner), God help us. I can’t help but remember being apprenticed to the Agency’s most experienced ordnance expert on my first assignment. Looking over a recently arrived shipment of “lethal.” (i.e., firearms), he remarked cynically, “Third time that I’ve issued this batch in my career.” Small wonder the guy used to brush his teeth and gargle with Scotch whiskey.

      • Tom

        Sounds like your views on Syria much more line up with the Democrat’s views than the Republicans, who have been pushing for a much more active role in Syria for years. Where would we be if McCain, the guy you voted for, was our President? Romney even supported a much more active role for the U.S. in debates, not ruling an active U.S. combat role. Obama at most has wanted a limited pin point short air campaign, a la Clinton in Iraq, to keep the chemicals contained. And you know that, he has managed to contain the chemicals without firing a shot.

        Here is a thought. If the Rebels really had some Sarin gas capability, then why have they not attempted a second try and do another attack that can be blamed on the Assad regime? Ratchet-up the march to war by the West…

        • DianaLC

          Try just for once NOT to make this the great battle between the Evil Republicans and the Angelic Democrats.
          Did you no listen to the interviews? A Democratic POTUS was going to bomb Syria and ignore the truth?
          No one on this site is really a firm old-guard Republican, as far as I know.
          What I feel is that, more Cosntitutionally-minded people should be in power, not brilliant but narcissistic humanists who feel the Constitution is too flawed to care about.
          I think Retired was agreeing with Popsmoke.

          • Tom

            ” ignore the truth”
            What truth would that be…

            • DianaLC

              The truth of the intelligence and evidence that cast doubt on his statements about the certainty that Assad released the gas in Syria.
              You must be the most dense obot ever on this site. It really is like responding to a nonliving thing. Someone forgot to program the meaning of “truth” into your circuits.
              Non cogito ergo obot sum.

        • noway

          well the first one failed. duh!

        • Deapster

          The rebels did not get the desired response with their recent sarin stunt. They don’t have the resources to be continually stupid; unlike the WH.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          “Tom” wrote : “Sounds like your views on Syria much more line up with the Democrat’s views than the Republicans, who have been pushing for a much more active role in Syria for years. ”
          A revealingly ignorant comment from one who gets his “news” from God knows where. As we write these comments back and forth, it is the Obama administration that is training and arming certain factions of the Syrian resistance, as it has been doing now for several months. They aren’t doing this at the behest of John McCain.
          No, I didn’t read it in the New York Times or the Washington Post. I got it in face to face conversations with former subordinates that I trained before I retired that are now doing the arming and training.
          To you I say, paraphrasing “The Most Interesting Man on Earth” commercials, “Stay ignorant, my friend.”

          • Tom

            Yes, you are correct that the U.S. under the Obama administration is helping the Rebels, although just today it was announced that that aid has been suspended. However, it is not the Democrats who have been pushing for a more active role in Syria for the past few years. Most Democrats in the House and Senate have been against any real involvement in Syria. It has only really been the Republicans who have pushed for a much more active role in Syria. It even became an issue in the Republican Presidential debates. Again, your views seem to line up much more with the Democrats than the Republicans. You just seem ignorant as to which party has been much more active in pushing for more U.S. involvement in Syria. Romney even said he could see U.S. troops in Syria in August 2012.

            • Retired_from_SPOnaj

              So, President Obama, who is doing the arming and training, is kowtowing to Republican pressure against his better judgement? I thought that he was a leader of principle, courage and resolve.
              By the way, contrary to the “announcement,” I’ve an acquaintance who has just been ordered to the resistance support operation (sorry, I can’t mention the location). Gee, could the administration be lying? Stay ignorant, my friend.

  • MJUdall

    Many supporters of Obama and the media are not thoughtful.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    Barry Soertero is a fking liar. what a shock

    not.

  • noway

    sy hersh the journalist’s journalist!

  • Deapster

    A good primer on How to Disagree from Paul Graham, with emphasis for online discussions, aka how to withstand an obot attack:

    http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html

  • S7teen70six

    Now I want to know the details of Kerry’s “unbelievably small” attack
    plan for Syria. I found the perfect theme song for Assad’s response.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdc0NGumVc

  • S7teen70six

    Thank you for providing this educational material. So few in our country are aware enough to even seek such things out.

    Hersh is the real deal. I didn’t sense a thing within him that was making anything up. Nor did I sense any part of him that had an axe to grind. What he said about journalists and journalism should be screamed from the rooftops. And what he said about Obama being willing to go to war to protect his ego and pride spoke volumes about the character of this man we call president. Or asshole in my case.

  • HARP2

    Way OT but too good not to share.

    WestJet Christmas Miracle

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEIvi2MuEk#t=305

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    Hersh’s report certainly raises some interesting questions, and one of the most intriguing is whether intelligence officers are willing to tell the White House unpopular truths, or whether they wait, test the waters, and then slant the intel to correspond with the White House’s preconceived notions. We already know from the Bush administration what happens when intel officers tell the White House what they think it wants to hear. People die.

    • Tom

      That is all it raises. However, no where does it say that Obama lied, as Larry Johnson claims. Hey, Larry Johnson we are still waiting for that Russian report you promised us that would prove that the Rebels were responsible for the Sarin gas attack. Where is the report Larry Johnson? Must be lost in the same place the “Whitey Tapes” were lost.

      • S7teen70six

        Nowhere in this sentence do I call you an idiot. That does not change the fact that you are.

  • HELENK2
    • Deapster

      Hope they have a 110 converter for Obama’s teleprompter. Have you ever seen a South African plug and outlet? Whoowhee, they can’t just roll in TOTUS unless he is now battery operated.

      http://www.amazon.com/Grounded-Adapter-Africa-Ireland-Certified/dp/B000BMC57I

      • HELENK2

        I had to steal that

    • binky354

      Did anyone else, when looking at Mandela’s picture at this link, see a resemblance between the POTUS and him, it was in the smile?

  • Deapster

    Next time we need to listen to the Little Woman, which was the last time the truth was ever spoken by the Oblamo pair: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyDqQW2adPk&noredirect=1

    • Justine00

      Mooch sure looks different now, doesn’t she?
      .

      • Deapster

        Meeshell is a very rich and powerful woman right now. Amazing what a tax payer funded “social” budget and staff can do for a woman whose husband who has never done anything……. yet.

        • Dave L.

          She still can’t buy CLASS !!!! This is the most tasteless woman to ever walk into the White House !

  • Deapster

    Remind me.

    What was the wag the dog issue that required Oblamo do a full court press to divert attention away from his string of domestic scandals that were closing in at the same time.

    Isssa and Benghazi and IRS? The heat was really pouring on Obama at that time, which is why we all immediately suspected the Syria CW was desparately needed to divert attention away from Oblamo’s own domestic nuclear self-destruction melt down.

    Like everything else Oblamo and ValJar do, they do it to protect him, work in haste and leave all sorts of loose ends in their wake. Ready to be picked up and exposed with a little diligence if someone can break through their after the fact stonewalling.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Deapster wrote: “…work in haste and leave all sorts of loose ends in their wake. ” Perfect characterization. Well done.

  • Deapster

    The die is cast. Obama has been lying since he staged those fainting ladies at his 2008 campaign rallies. And then hid behind a teleprompter once he thugged the nomination.

    Obama over-drew his credibility account years ago. Only difference is now more people have woken up and are finally noticing it.

    Never confuse adulation and zealotry with earned trust. Forced error. He is flailing to get back something he never had; which he chose to throw away himself.

    Nixon had the same problem. Obama is now firmly in the Nixon camp for personal character attributes; but without the real politik creds others around Nixon provided for him.

    ValJar and the Soros Sisters sure ain’t no Henry Kissinger.

  • Tom

    Where exactly is the lie? At most Hersh points out that there are reports that say that Opposition elements may also have had some form of sarin gas capability. That does not mean that the Assad regime was not responsible for the sarin attack. You have not seen the confidential intelligence. Again, where exactly is the lie by Obama? Please give us exactly what the lie was Larry Johnson? You accuse Obama of lying, but you entirely fail to tell us or even where Hersh says Obama lied. Classic Larry Johnson.

    • Deapster

      Ahhhhh … the obot tom-toms sound again.

      Old ancient method to send distress smoke signals that Big Heap Chief in Big Heap o’ Trouble. Again.

      Brave Hersh’s arrow hit its target.

      • Tom

        You cannot answer my question of where exactly is the lie, so you just make personal attacks…. classic NQbot..

        • Deapster

          Tom, no one has to answer a question just because you asked it.

          But I will discuss doing a trade with you: where was Obama between 20:00 and 22:00 on Sept 11, 2012?

          Let’s see if we can make a deal. You show me what you got; and I see what I can do to help answer yours.

          • Tom

            You do not want to answer the question of where exactly the lie is because you cannot answer the question. Larry Johnson accusations fall apart with one simple question. Typical for Larry Johnson. Full of extreme accusations, but cannot back them up. Very FOX News. Full of bullshit and deceit. All politics all the time and this guy worked in “intelligence”? After years of BS on NQ Larry Johnson no longer has any credibility.

    • KlugerRD

      The Obama cabal never produced any hard evidence that Assad’s people committed this act. I am still wondering why there were never any autopsy reports.

      For political points Obama set up red lines (imaginary ones) and when the attack happened he flinched and more than once. He put himself in a corner and felt forced to attack Assad based on, at best, flimsy evidence.

      LJ in the past has discussed the problems in the Obama assessment and Sy Hersh’s account provide more support for LJ’s questions.

      Sy Hersh practices an outdated profession called journalism which requires the ability to question whomever is in power, regardless of political views.

      • Tom

        “Obama cabal never produced any hard evidence that Assad’s people committed this act. ”
        It was classified, which I know gets all you tinfoil heads all excited. Many many Republicans saw the classified intelligence. If Obama was lying, then I am sure the Republicans, including Rand Paul who is no fan of attacking Syria, would have been all over Obama for “lying”. And they were not. Republicans largely agreed, based on the intelligence, that the Syrian regime was responsible for the sarin attack.

        Again, where exactly is the lying that Johnson is accusing Obama of? What is the lie? Hersh certainly never says Obama lied about anything.

        • KlugerRD

          The lying was that Assad committed the attack.

          Classified? hardly – non-existent

          • Tom

            Where is the proof that Assad did not commit the act? Hersh certainly does not say that Assad did not commit the act or that it was the rebels. What is Larry Johnson basing his statement that Obama lied on? nothing. zero. Larry Johnson has a long history of making accusation, but then failing to substantiate them. His accusations and predictions usually just blow-up in his face. He is just a complete bullshit artist. And you guys fall for it every time.

            • KlugerRD

              Get lost punk

            • DianaLC

              Here’s a term from the study of logic: the argumentum ad ignorantiam. You can’t expect a person to prove a negative. But then, you ARE an obot and can’t be expected to think logically. As Descartes said, “Non cogito ergo obot sum.”

              • Tom

                Just answer the question: What exactly did Obama lie about..? .any one..? any one..? simple question.

                • DianaLC

                  Here it is in terms an elementary student can understand–though that might be above your reading and comprehension level: Through his sock puppet Jay Carney he said they had no reason to doubt that the sarin was released by the Assad regime. Now keep in mind, I am not quoting, but he was basically saying that he felt certain that the gas attack was Assad’s doing.
                  This post above makes it clear that POTUS should have known that there was indeed doubt about who released the gas.
                  Now go release your gas elsewhere, please.

        • Deapster

          Here is clue obot, the next time your President wants to take this country in to WWIII again – hiding eyes only classified evidence just won’t cut it.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          No, it was not in the intel you moron. That’s the point. Specifically, nothing about Sarin, or the source of the Sarin, or the units that supposedly used the Sarin was reported, as Sy notes, in the Top Secret Daily Brief prepared for the Secretary of Defense and the CJCS. Not one single report. The only thing reported was on the 23rd of August, per Sy’s account, of the international political reaction to reports of a sarin attack.

          • Tom

            Wrong… you have not seen all the intel, say for example the captured communications between regime elements, etc. You have no clue nor Hersh has any clue what the actual intelligence was. Again, if the case against the Syrian regime was a complete lie, then why did not a single Republican make that big a deal about it and complain about Obama lying, when all the Republicans saw the intel. Only your buddies the Russians who are partners with the Assad regime, say anything…

            Larry Johnson we are still waiting for that report you said the Russians were going to produce that would prove that it was the Rebels who were responsible for the sarin attack. Where is that report Larry Johnson? Another one of your bullshit stories….

            And again you fail to answer the question: what exactly did Obama lie about? You accuse Obama of lying, yet you do not tell us exactly what the lie is. Again classic Larry Johnson!

        • TeakWoodKite

          “Many many Republicans saw the classified intelligence”
          You are an idiot? Who is the chair of the house intelligence committee? Don’t know? Figured… Did you also know he has stated publically that they were not briefed on any of this?

      • Deapster

        This photos were so odd and so out of character for Islamic burial practices, let alone not showing any of the physical distortions associated with chemical gas poisoning death.

        They looked staged, yet the photos alone shot around the world as “shocking proof”.

        This may well have been the same type of stunt in the same camp as Obama healing fainting ladies at his campaign rallies or facing down canned protesters calculated to make him look “presidential” just a few days ago in one of this pay for TV media ops..

        • KlugerRD

          “They looked staged”

          Which would not have been the first time radical Islamists did that

    • Deapster

      Here is a ditty to memorize Tom: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Clown, you haven’t even taken time to read Sy’s piece. Pull thy swollen head from your enormous ass.

      • Tom

        You are the one who has become a clown with your continued BS on this website. Again, answer the simple question: what exactly did Obama lie about?

    • beyond partisan

      WHY do you waste so much of your time defending Obama? Do you honestly think Barack Obama cares about you? You think someday he might invite you to the White House, give you a pat on the back, and say “Hey, Tom, great job you did responding to those bitter clingers on No Quarter”?

      Obama lied about something as simple as keeping your health insurance, and you honestly believe him on Syria? You’re like the cult member who does not want to believe the guru is sleeping with his female disciples despite report after report about it. Try to get a sense of self that extends beyond being a loyal Democrat for a change.

      • Deapster

        I think he might be one of those paid low level WH staffer whose job is to monitor the social media.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Monitor, not actively participate. Participation is supposed to be left (no pun intended) for those higher up the loyalty food chain, at least to the extent that they aren’t bailing out while the getting is good. Starting in 2014. when Obamacare blows up and millions of simple, trusting citizens are left holding their newly uninsured asses, “Obama administration” isn’t exactly going to be a great calling card, especially in this new normal high unemployment environment. I mean, let’s face it, Obamacare was apparently so important that Sebelius couldn’t get a face to face with POTUS to brief him on his signature law for three years after he signed it. It was only after October 2013 that she was called in between the 9th and 10th holes to explain what the fuck happened. By that time, the only thing that ACA’s target demographic (26-35, strong and healthy) knew was that they were being asked to buy something that they didn’t think they needed through a website that didn’t work. Their universal response was, ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME?” Back to the bar and promiscuous sex.

      • 0getfitnow1

        Simple lie: re; Uncle Omar

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      I kinda thought it was classic MacGruber. Whatever. O/T, but I’m kinda relieved that Ezekiel Emmanuel has explained that I can keep my doctor after all, I just have to be willing to pay four times as much as my old health insurance. What a relief.

      • S7teen70six

        You should also be relieved that Obama was telling you the truth all along.

    • TeakWoodKite

      Any two year old can tell a lie… such a pity you are not that old. You have been lied right to your face…how are those rates for cable TV working out?

      • Tom

        “Any two year old can tell a lie… ”
        So how about you tell us where exactly the lie is by Obama then..?

  • Deapster

    God love this man because he was the first to point out what a corrupt fraud Ahmed Chalibi and his ilk were, long before Chalibi became the darling of the Neo-Cons who pushed this country Iraq disaster, just to restore Chalibi’s family fortunes.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Actually, he was the first to point out Chalabi in public to the press. Those of us who had to deal with Chalabi (and his family) face to face never had any doubts about the fact that he was a self serving phony from the first meeting. By the way, speaking of Chalabi, what is it about these types of assholes that they always seem to attract wives and produce children who think that the world owes them a splendorous lifestyle?

      • Fred82

        I think you summed up much of the Persian community perfectly with that one, even though Chalabi is technically an Arab.I guess the House of Saud could qualify here too.

        When you think about it, I can’t help but notice that groups like Al Qaida and some of the Pasdaran are more appealing in many ways than these self entitled phonies. Hmmmmm.

        • Retired_from_SPOnaj

          Until they ask you to become a martyr and then stiff your surviving family on the promised lifetime support. Hey, shit, that’s Obamacare!

          • Fred82

            Oh yeah.

            There’s also that eugenics via martyrdom thing,

            Speaking of eugenics……….

            Any chance that the tide brought on by Obamacare will lead to a return of eugenics in some way, shape, or form?

            • Retired_from_SPOnaj

              Interesting question. Considering the current dysgenic trend, and the belief by Obamacare supporters that government intellectual elites know what’s best for us commoners, who’s to say what they may try to impose on us next? Eugenics has actually been tried in China–I know of two products of late 1960s era Chinese eugenic experimentation. Unfortunately for the reds, both (brother and sister) decided that they’d rather immigrate to good old capitalist America rather than be predesignated leaders in the Beijing bureaucracy. The brother became an overly shy computer engineer that got divorced because his (also Chinese) wife thinks that he can’t keep up with her sexually. The sister became a high end call girl in DC and, reaching that eventual day when all call girls must find the second chapter in their lives, now owns a day spa. But I’m sure that the Obamite version of eugenics with correct these irregularities.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Thanks for that comparison Retired…Spot on. What is the jihadist-in-chief to do?

  • Deapster

    Hersh, time to check out Benghazi as well.

    See if you can find out where Obama was between 20:00 and 22:00 on Spt 11, 2012. Then figure out why no one is telling.

  • KenoshaMarge

    One more lie in what is becoming a sea of them. Thank God their are still a few reporters around. Were it not for them all we would have would be the main stream press agents.

    Good for Sy Hersh. Nice to see there is still one journalist with some honesty and integrity.

    • Deapster

      Everyone has a bias – even Hersh. But he does bring a necessary balance to the discussion and he does his homework when motivated by what drives him. Thank goodness he is there, because he digs into what too many others also want to cover up.

      • KenoshaMarge

        I don’t give a rat’s ass about anyone’s bias so long as they report the truth. Covering up, spinning or lying for some damn politician demeans what was once a respectable profession.

        With the Obama/Matthews interview all decency went out the window.