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Protect Obama At All Costs, Ignore Sy Hersh

Which of the following matters to US National Security:

1. Oscar Pistorius breaks down weeping on the witness stand while describing how he shot his model girlfriend.

2. Malaysian Flight 370 is still missing and no one has found a shred of wreckage.

3. Chris Christie remains the target of MSNB, er, the Justice Department over allegations that he’s fat and may have known something about closing a couple of lanes on the George Washington Bridge.

4. Sean Hannity berates a American muslim for protesting leaflets passed out at his kids’ elementary school advertising an Easter Egg hunt.

5. Sy Hersh exposes the failed attempt of Barack Obama to insert the United States into the civil war in Syria by lying to the American people about who used chemical agent similar to sarin against Syrian civilians in August 2013. In addition, Sy details the Obama Administration’s covert operation, in league with the Brits, to help Turkey arm Syrian rebels, including members of Al Qaeda.

The answer? Malaysian Flight 370? Are you shitting me?

The feckless irrelevance of the US media was on display this week as they averted their eyes and ignored the damning article by Sy Hersh. Taking America to war is the most serious matter there is. Doing so on false pretenses should awaken the slumbering public and evoke a demand for accountability. But not in America. Hell, the mainstream media, including conservative outlets, do not even want to engage the debate.

This is dangerous. The concept of a free press is critical to a functioning, healthy democracy. Journalists are supposed to provide a check on Government by exposing lies and misrepresentations. But we have lived to witness the transformation of journalism into a lap dog for the governing power. Right now it is serving the interests of Barack Obama. Few are willing to blow the whistle on his foreign policy debacles. Actual whistleblowers who do try to raise the alarm end up being prosecuted by the Obama Administration and how does most of the media react? They do nothing. They sit silently or, worse, make excuses to justify the abuse of power by their beloved Obama.

I will state this clearly–if you think it does not matter that President authorizes the CIA to put together a covert plan to provide arms to radical Islamists intent on ousting a secular ruler then you are a moron. If you think it does not matter that the President lies about intelligence and uses this fiction to try to persuade the American public that they should back a military strike in Syria then you are a moron.

I am terrified at what American has become. We are enamored of petty, meaningless scandals, both real and imagined. We are unwilling to demand accountability of our government. And when someone of the stature of Seymour Hersh produces a heavily documented, multiply sourced exposé on the failed attempt of Barack Obama to start a war, there is not even a collective yawn, we are in trouble.

  • Deapster

    Obama makes the US an ineffectual regional power; no longer a global power. (As he promised he would do in 2008.)

    http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/4/barack-obama-us-declinerussiasaudiarabia.html

  • Deapster
  • Deapster

    Explantion for the media’s refusal to handle the Seymour Hersh article exposing BHO’s perfidy: abject terror over the control Obama has over the media?

    NYT Jill Abramson discusses this current WH media climate:

    http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/new-level-secrecy-and-control-nytimes-chief-jill-abramson-obama-white-house/

  • samb1

    OFF Topic-
    Martini Friday-
    Enjoy-
    Martina McBride – Independence Day lyrics
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkDQ4uslrzg

  • samb1

    Standing in line at the grocery story in 2012 looking at the tabloids,
    I see Hillary Clinton front and center on the cover,
    I turn to the woman next to me and she smiles and says to me
    “I Don’t Trust Her and I Never Will.
    Now I know she was right, as long as we continue to see
    Glam instead of Truth this will always happen.

    Lets face it macaroni and cheese will always be comfort food,
    it’s bad for you but it tastes really good and the powers that be
    know this and use it to their advantage.

  • S7teen70six

    Sometimes only a little American born music will quench the soul. Alison Krauss at the Bluegrass Jam. Wowzers!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBwbjyVW_jI

  • FloridaFI

    Anyone who has received a military brief on Militarized Nerve Gas would have known immediately upon seeing the news video that Militarized Nerve Gas was not used in Damascus.

    Militarized nerve gas is deployed in a binary warhead and it is combined upon firing/launching the warhead.

    It is then dispersed upon impact by an explosive (usually plastic explosive).

    Militarized nerve gas attacks are characterized by fatalities caused by fragmentation from explosions and exposure to the nerve gas.

    If you survive the explosions, the nerve gas kills you.

    Militarized nerve gas remains lethal in a crystallized form on the hair and clothing of victims for a very long time.

    It is reactivated by moisture, with lethal results to the person applying the moisture (which could be as simple as a sweaty finger tip).

    “Bathtub” Nerve Gas is highly unstable and must be used very quickly before it breaks down into it’s original chemical components.

    These caustic chemical components can be flushed from the eyes by water.

    If you re-review the news videos after the nerve gas attack, you will witness victims flushing their eyes with bottles of water.

    There were no reports of deaths or injuries as a result of dispersion explosions (fragmentation).

    There were no reports of first responder deaths

    On the news video you witness people carrying and moving victims with no apparent secondary nerve gas effect.

    If this was Militarized Nerve Gas the news video would have shown people dropping like flies every time they touched a victim.

    The Syrian Armies’ Nerve Gas is Militarized in binary explosive warheads.

    Sy Hersh is merely confirming what many in the military already knew.

    We were being lied to so that Obama and Kerry could attack Assad.

    The question that needs to be asked of Obama or Kerry is:

    WHO ON YOUR STAFF KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MILITARIZED NERVE GAS AND “BATHTUB” NERVE GAS!

    I’d bet every member of the Joint Chiefs knew the lie as soon as they saw the news video of the Damascus Nerve Gas attack.

    • Deapster

      The photos of the alleged victims did not look like nerve gas victims, nor were even in proper Muslim burial practice with shrouded faces. The whole thing looked staged for effect.

      Nerve gas exposure leads to distorted figures in various states of extreme muscle contracture. These bodies were laid out almost in a serene and benign photo op pose.

      • FloridaFI

        I agree.

        However, if you get to the victims before rigamortis sets in, you would be able to re-position the limbs.

        Which, of course, supports the theory that the victims were moved very soon after the attack. And, that Militarized Nerve Gas was not used.

        Our military is trained to not even go near a Nerve Gas attack area without full NBC suits.

        If the Damascus Nerve Gas attack was done with Militarized Warheads no one would have survived exposure to the area for at least 24 hours.

        There would have been no bodies to film, because they would still be where they had fallen.

        Any first responders would have died unless they were wearing NBC (Nuclear – Biological – Chemical) suits.

        Also, no one would have been touching the bodies of the victims after they were brought to the morgue.

        Therefore you would not have seen the bodies carefully wrapped in sheets.

        Militarized Nerve Gas is nasty stuff and it is designed to keep killing for a very long time.

        It is an “Area Denial” weapon.

      • S7teen70six

        Not to mention that they would have piss and shit themselves if it was real.

    • S7teen70six

      Thanks. Though most of us here appreciate the clarity you bring in great detail, the political machines of both parties prefer obscure, baseless claims that allow them to create imaginary enemies so we will ignore the stark fact that but a few of them care enough about their oaths of office to tell us the truth.

      I remember when they first started reporting these chemical attacks, before the one during the UN inspection. It always struck me how few people died during those attacks, leading to the obvious suspicion that these were not launched by the Syrian military.

      None of this matters to these people because truth obscures the bamboozle they are sworn to perpetuate.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      It seems that the Obama administration is more capable at weaponizing the Federal bureaucracy against its political opponents and common citizens than recognizing militarized chemical weapons.

      • FloridaFI

        Amazingly, no one seems to care that this obvious False Flag operation was intended to start a major war throughout the Middle East.

        I think that Larry would agree that a well executed False Flag leaves even the intended target wondering whether one of theirs may have actually done the dirty deed.

        This was so blatantly obvious from the start, it makes one wonder about the entire Political and Military Leadership of the US.

        We were once a country that sometimes were forced to do bad things for the right reasons.

        We are now viewed as a bad country that does bad things.

        You and I grew up through this change.

        The lack of uproar has me very concerned.

        And, in total agreement with your statement.

        • stodghie

          true but underneath is a financial battle going on about being solvent and asset backed currency in the world. the usa doesn’t want to comply so a lot of look here and not there goes on. old game but new rules where our endless bs won’t win the day.

    • Fred82

      Not necessarily.

      There are different strains of nerve agents designed for different missions. GB aka Sarin is a rather non-persistent agent whose primary use is as a vapor hazard. Sarin is used to cause instant casualties and/or facilitate breakthroughs. GD aka Soman is more toxic and persistent than Sarin and requires one to take NAPP pills as a means of boosting the effectiveness of the NAAK kit.

      VX on the other hand is a persistent agent designed to slime one’s rear areas and/or force enemy forces to adopt MOPP postures which greatly inhibit their combat effectiveness.

      Generally eye contact and/or inhalation are the most lethal avenues of exposure when it comes to nerve agents. Skin exposure takes somewhat longer for symptoms to show up, though small amounts of G series nerve agents can cause death via skin exposure while V series nerve agents are far more toxic regarding skin exposure.

  • Deapster

    Tony Podesta, brought in to refurbish Obama’s already badly tarnished image, now has a super meltdown of his own spread across the Beltway’s gossip devouring media:

    http://freebeacon.com/columns/divorce-beltway-style/

    Good call, Barky. ValJar must be loving these new optics for her Man.

    • DianaLC

      This reads like exaggerated fiction. It’s mind boggling how corrupt the people surrounding the Dems are. And HR worries about the Koch Brothers. Good grief, I am just worried I can end up leaving a little “smidgeon” to my children aft all the taxes and regulations take most of what I’ve got.

      • Deapster

        ValJar brought in this man to clean up Barky’s fading image. The irony is stunning.

        Like when philandering Jesse Jackson counseling Bill Clinton on infidelity.

        Are you seeing a pattern in the Democratic sense of integrity?

  • beyond partisan

    Sy’s article needs an infographic, Larry. People just don’t read anymore, and what they do read, they cannot comprehend.

    • Deapster

      He needs to ditch the early paragraph with the mind-numbing litany of names and places and stick with the narrative which comes later, which was clear and fascinating. I suspect many could not get past those first few dense paragraphs.

  • KenoshaMarge

    OT but had to show great Branco cartoon on the latest blowback from the “mastermind” in the White House

    http://legalinsurrection.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/WH-wages-590-LI1.jpg

  • S7teen70six

    Talk about being terrified….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhRV0lfh4E

    • Dave L.

      This could turn into a disaster real quick if some idiot was to do something stupid !! Another Waco in the wings !!

      • pumagsd

        I saw where oil/fracking leases are behind the removal of the cattle. The county commissioner who made the statement
        “they better have burial insurance” could/did have something to do with the approval of these leases. Money, money makes the world go around. I support the rancher.

        • pumagsd
          • Deapster

            Sorry, posted my link before I read you already brought this up.

            • pumagsd

              2 is better than 1!

          • stodghie

            it is more about a shady deal involving land and harry reid. btw the deal was struck when the old administration in china was in affect. i wouldn’t be too sure about the current rulers there liking the dems like harry reid. no matter mooch pranced around over there.

    • Deapster

      Yikes, this land was supposed to go for a political crony of Sen Majority Leader Harry Reid for a solar farm???

      http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

      • S7teen70six

        If I was Bundy I would claim to be Hindu and declare that the removal of the cattle is a religious desecration.

  • kmansfield

    Don’t confuse the free press with the corporate press, which is just another leg of the government. The corporate press are owned by elites and multinational/international companies or people who are so rich they are emancipated from citizenship responsibilities. The media monopolists don’t even have to turn a profit. They are sponsored by GE and now by Amazon, or Rupert. The “reporters,” analysts, spokesmodels, and demagogues are a part of a bureaucratic class who can move from elected government or managerial positions, to unelected sinecures, board seats of companies who are beneficiaries of government largess, or the well paid speech circuit and back again.

    The free press is this blog right here or a thousand other non corporatized sites. it’s twitter, and the posters pinned up on light posts and fences on the freeway, or printed flyers that the White Rose Club threw off the balcony.

  • binky354

    Uh, oh…very disturbing:

    CBS reports that militias from Texas, Montana, Utah, New Hampshire, and Florida will be standing with Bundy against the Bureau of Land Management.

    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04/10/militias-route-2nd-american-revolution-starting-bunkerville-nevada/

    • Deapster

      Get Obama out of that Texas fund-raiser and tell him to go draw a red line and stop them. Oh, wait I think he is on his way to China. Oh, well. Some other dude then.

      • Justine00

        It does sound like the feds are coming down much more strongly on an old cattle rancher than on the muslim terrorists, doesn’t it?
        .

  • HARP2

    NY Times 2007.

    If the Justice Department refuses to enforce the subpoenas, as seems likely, Congress will have to decide whether to do so. Washington lawyers are dusting off an old but apparently sturdy doctrine called “inherent contempt” that gives Congress the power to bring the recalcitrant witnesses in — by force, if necessary.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/opinion/04tue4.html?_r=0

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Hey, this “inherent contempt” concept is interesting! I wonder where old Lois would be locked up?

    • stodghie

      inherent contempt should be applied to holder. lock his whining buxx up!

  • Deapster

    Breaking: HHS Secretary Sebelius resigns.

    • Deapster

      Could the threat of a Congressional subpoena also have influenced her decision to resign at this particular moment?

  • Deapster

    Hell hath no fury, as a beard scorned. Reggie Love speaks out:

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/10/reggie-love-on-life-after-white-house-like-a-drug-to-be-out-of-there/

    What knives did the Night-Stalker stick in his back, when he was in the WH? His drug must have been Love Potion #9.

  • Deapster
    • HARP2

      Inherent contempt

      Under this process, the procedure for holding a person in contempt involves only the chamber concerned. Following a contempt citation, the person cited is arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House or Senate,brought to the floor of the chamber, held to answer charges by the presiding officer, and then subjected to punishment as the chamber may dictate (usually imprisonment for punishment reasons, imprisonment for coercive effect, or release from the contempt citation)

      • Deapster

        Gowdy nailed the questions Lerner herself put into controversy.

  • DianaLC

    I woke up so very depressed this morning. I feel that I am not living in the U.S. but in some futuristic apocalyptic novel where up is down and down is up, black is white and white is balck, dark is light and light is dar. You get the picture.

    • Deapster

      Since the obot showed up here trying out his dog and pony spin show, you can believe this article is getting traction in all the right places.

      He never shows up here unless they know they have a weak backside to defend, and try their latest revisionist theories on us first.

      Victory for our side whenever the obot shows up and plays his hand. Someone is very, very worried about the Hersh article. You can count on that.

    • Deapster

      On a lighter note, try MOTUS and spin with your dog or pony:

      http://www.michellesmirror.com

    • stodghie

      twelve angry men was on tv last night. what a pleasure to watch! i had just yesterday recommended it to a friend.

      • S7teen70six

        The Original with Henry Fonda?

        • stodghie

          yes it was and i love that movie.

  • elizabethrc

    This is off topic, but I’ve been reading a lot lately about instances where outfits like the Bureau of Land Management has sent their goons in with high powered armaments to remove the cattle of a rancher who’s family have been grazing their cattle there since 1870. They have been killing the cows, leaving the calves to die while bulldozing the dead ones. This has been done to ‘protect the desert tortoise’. Then there is the small town in Iowa whose police force has acquired a military tank. There are more and more ‘law enforcement’ agencies across America who are gearing up like storm troopers and overstepping their rights to treat citizens like chattel.
    How is it that they do this invasion against their own people? Where are the voices against this takeover? I do not understand why these people, whom I assume go home at night to their wives, husbands and children, do not rail against this and resist. Do they think it’s not going to hit them and their loved ones, too?
    This is something that is building and like the Hersh crickets, no one is saying anything about it.

    • FloridaFI

      The beginning phases of Tyranny / Totalitarianism always involve the Militarization of local police.

      See Germany in the 1930′s

  • BannedAgain19

    “Protect Obama At All Costs, Ignore Sy Hersh”

    The only problem is that no where in the Hersh piece does he say that Obama did anything wrong or was negligent about anything. At best Hersh just providing some background information to events if what he is reporting is even true….. no big deal and a far cry from what Larry Johnson claims as being some ground-breaking article that make the Obama Administration look bad. Far from it. In fact, the Obama Administration looks pretty good here. They threatened Assad and then got him to give up his chemical weapons without a shot being made. Now your Republican buddies who all but wanted to invade Syria look pretty bad as normal.

    I hardly think a threat of a series of airstrikes to disarm Assad of his chemical weapons was taking the U.S. to war.

    “I will state this clearly–if you think it does not matter that President authorizes the CIA to put together a covert plan to provide arms to radical Islamists intent on ousting a secular ruler then you are a moron. If you think it does not matter that the President lies about intelligence and uses this fiction to try to persuade the American public that they should back a military strike in Syria then you are a moron.”

    1) the United States government publicly state that they were helping the Rebels in Syria. Not sure how covert that is. Not quite like your boy Ronnie Reagan arming the Contras, which I am sure you personally are quite familiar with.

    2) No one lied about any intelligence. The United Nations all but said themselves that Assad Regime used sarin gas.
    Interesting that Hersh cannot get his articles published in the New Yorker or the Washington Post, his normal outlets. They must of passed on him. The best he could do was a review on books in a U.K. paper.

    “His claims about Turkey’s support for al-Qaeda-related groups are not based on any evidence except the highly questionable personal testimonies and statements of “anonymous intelligence sources” – sources with which you can write any story but certainly not one of serious journalism. Turkey never supported terrorist groups within the nation, Syria or elsewhere. It itself has fought against them. After 9/11, Turkey was the target of several al-Qaeda attacks on its own soil. Moreover, Turkey never wanted to go to war with Syria, and, in spite of Syrian provocations, did not. If Turkey wanted, it would have had many reasons to do so over the last two years. Despite the failure of the international community to stop the war and help the Syrian refugees, Turkey shoulders the economic and humanitarian burden of a bloody and costly war along its 911-km border.

    Mr. Hersh mixes up information culled from different sources to write a highly imaginative script fit for a Hollywood feature film that serves well the brutal Assad regime and its supporters. His claims, based on conjecture and imagination rather than facts, have been denied by U.S. and Turkish authorities.”

    http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2014/04/09/the-assad-regime-sarin-and-the-facts

    http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2014/04/09/hershs-claims-proven-baseless

    • Deapster

      Putin ate Obama for lunch.

      This seems hard for you to digest. But it turned Putin into an action-hero doll. And your boy into mom’s pants on a bicycle.

      Keep living off those fumes, obot. I hear it is a good weight loss technique.

      • BannedAgain19

        “Putin ate Obama for lunch”

        How do you figure..? if it was up to Putin I am sure he would have let Assad keep his chemical weapons… Obama forced Assad to give up his chemical weapons. A pretty good outcome. A victory for world stability and in fact for Israel.

        Now if we listened to your Republican buddies or if Romney was President, we would likely be much much more involved in Syria. Obama did exactly the right thing.

        • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

          Reading comprehension ain’t your strong suit. As Sy wrote, the Russians offered this deal in 2012 and Bubblehead Barack rejected it.

          • BannedAgain19

            “Russians offered this deal in 2012″

            Was that before or after Assad acknowledge they had chemical weapons in July 2012?

            Was that before or after Obama drew the red line in the sand in August 2012?

            Was that before or after the first gas attack that occurred in December 2012?

            If they offered a deal in 2012 it was only because they were worried about Obama’s red line in the sand. Again, it was Obama’s pressure which forced them to give up the chemical weapons.

            You need to up your game, as your analysis continues to get even more and more thin, as it is increasingly based on speculation and your failure to truly understand events? I guess that is what happens when you sit on the couch running a bogus website full of back slappers while talking to your fellow retired right-wing ex-CIA guys so far removed from the action.

            • Popsmoke

              Hey left wing neo-liberal… This from the ICC Mad Dog herself….

              “Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.”.

              Dear, dear Carla would hang her grandmother if need be and so your duckspeak is full of duckshit….

              By the way, you the cousin of Victoria “release the flying monkeys” Nuland? Or the uncle of Freddy “Kruger” Kagan?

              Worried about Obama line in the sand! Yeah they THE PENTAGON were….

            • Deapster

              Obot, you need to check in with Breitbart California. Your entire Democrat Party is falling apart out there.

              Might want to have a career plan B sorted out pretty soon. Just sayin’.

        • Deapster

          Putin ate Obama for lunch, and the whole world was watching.

          Putin in fact created an out for Obama to grab since Obama finally was coming to grips he had relied on shit-poor information about the alleged sarin attack.

          Putin had Obama’s nuts in his hands and gave him a gratuitous squeeze just to let Obama know who was in charge. Were you living in a cave when this was all going on in full public view?

          • BannedAgain19

            created an out for Obama? why because he helped negotiate a deal with his buddy Assad? he would not have been negotiating any deal in the first place if it was not for Obama and the West drawing a red line and forcing Assad’s hand..

            funny how you righties are now buddies with Putin… just hilarious, particularly for Mr. “Coldwar” Larry Johnson to develop a bromance with Putin…

            • Popsmoke

              Was not for Obama…. Do you have any clue to what the US/Russian body count would have looked like if we engaged each other? If just that thought does not scare the hell out of you then my lefty neo-liberal whack-a-mole need help…

            • Deapster

              Cold War has long been over. The Grand Chessboard has a whole new set of players. The battery must have run down in your decoder ring, obot.

        • Popsmoke

          Another two-faced post… your no different than Rove….By the way, coward, when are you going to call out Israel and its nuke weapons? Or that does not matter? Especially since they stole that technology from us….

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      QED

      • Popsmoke

        You have to excuse Banned he is a student of common core mathematics….

    • DianaLC

      So we can assume that the sarin attack by Al Nusra because of Obama’s making the stupid threat of the red line and the deaths involved are, in your opinion, a good thing? And where did those little pesky “rebels” get their manpads? Do you feel confident that these jihadists are now friendly because we made sure they had our weapons? Do you have any compassion for the Coptic Christians–or for the one in jail who was falsely blamed for causing the deaths of four Americans?
      I am now sure you are worse than a jellyfish. Not only does a jellyfish not have brains but it also doesn’t have a conscience. A jelly fish isn’t expected to have those things. A human is, and you choose to go with the LIAR.

      • BannedAgain19

        yes, warning Assad to not use chemical weapons and then threatening air strikes is a good thing.. ultimately it made Assad give up his chemical weapons, which is also a good thing..

        do you have any proof that the U.S. has armed any “jihadists” as you say in Syria? the U.S. has certainly helped select groups that are largely secular and friendly to the U.S.

        • Deapster

          Wow obot, you really played your hand here unwittingly revealing all your bogus talking points.

          Keep it up, obot. Your sound-bite previews are good to get into public debate early.

          You are wrong on all counts, but that is what makes your posts valuable because this is all you have. Nothing but cotton candy spin. Munch.

          • BannedAgain19

            “You are wrong on all counts”

            and what counts would those be…? funny how none of you ever actually have an intelligent counter argument to anything that I question or point out, including Larry Johnson.. either all grade three level personal insults or a grade three level comment like “you are wrong just because”…

            • Popsmoke

              Intellient counter point? To do such there has to be a logical intelligent point to debate with in a common frame of reference in the first place. Since you have zero understanding of CBRNe issues the points you are making are none foundational and since the root cause or issue at hand is all CBRNe your points at best lack any form of intelligence on the matter….

            • Deapster

              We never argue with women who are still wearing their hair long, with headbands. They cry. Waste of time.

        • DianaLC

          Tommy, I am finished with you. I will simply be the red down arrow under your posts. When I feel the influence of the Father of Lies, I ignore him. I now know that you have no compassion or sense of right and wrong, good and evil. You are the follower of the Liar in Chief in the WH, a true disciple of the Father of Lies, as far as I can tell. So I must in turn ignore you.

        • Popsmoke

          What? How do you sleep nights doing the bio-solid shuffle? Obama forced Assad to give up his CW? What rubbish… What was he going to do? No Fly Zone? With who’s AC? Our? You cool-aid drinking kiss butt..

          You think the Russians who have a defense pact with Syria would have said no problem? You think Syrian air defenses are garbage? Why you box of rocks.. You have some neo-liberal nerve to use our sons and daughters as your neo-liberal political pawns..

    • KenoshaMarge

      down arrow for long-winded idiot troll!

      • foxyladi14

        up for Marge.

    • Popsmoke

      My gosh man or gal your proving the point you “can’t fix stupid even with duck tape”…

      Where the hell are your morals? You were one of those screaming for Bush’s head for what he did (rightly so) and now that Obama is doing the same thing you are doing the duckspeak dance in defense.

      How do you sleep nights knowing that real people are suffering for YOUR imperial empire neo-liberal ideology? Who the heck do you thnk you represent?

      “The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason.” Murder in the Cathedral – St. Thomas Becket.

      Iraq, Syria and the Ukraine are for the wrong reasons…

    • S7teen70six

      Clearly the Obot has outdone itself in stupid comments. But I expect no less from cut and paste phenomenons. Next…

  • Popsmoke

    Free Press? Larry you of all people know that the 4th Estate is in foreclosure. Its a big ugly game today. The days of the old search’em down newspsper reporter are so dead that it will take the second coming to bring it back alive. 95% of reporters today are dumber than sandy dirt… Most producers and researcher make a box of chocolate look bright. Of the 5% that are good are so over burdened with work that to see the light at the end of the tunnel would take the hubble telescope and the special interest groups attack them mercilessly. Let’s not talk about Editors…

    But this stupidity is just not limited to the press. Lets take a look at the 4 Bangers in the US Military. So here is General Breedlove CinC USAREUR and the NATO Supreme Being talking stupid crap of which the reporter either is clueless or a suck-up.

    “However the Russian contingent might ultimately be used, it’s “ready to go essentially at command. We talk about inside of 12 hours,” Breedlove said.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/nato-send-us-troops-eastern-european-allies-23257669

    Why? Anyone who has studied combat tactics especially Russian combat tactics knows that Russian’s gauge readiness in minutes not hours. Why? Because that is how long it would take for our bombers/fighters and missiles based in Europe to strike. Shoot 12 hour readiness is for military leave to the Russians…

    It is just getting worse and scarier…

    • Justine00

      Breedlove sounds awful.
      .

      • Popsmoke

        Understatement..

      • stodghie

        dr strangelove comes to mind .

        “General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
        Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No, I don’t think I do, sir, no.
        General Jack D. Ripper: He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that,50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.”

    • Fred82

      I thin subversion and law fare will be more than enough to get the Russians what they want.

      Of course, I do not think the Russians want a real armed conflict with the US. That said, I think that they know the US is in no mood for a fight either.

      Hence the subversion, covert operations, and lawfare will do the job.

      • Popsmoke

        Fred,
        Remember when daddy built a bomb shelter because some russian idiot parked a bunch of warheads 90 miles off our coast?
        Well with Generals like Breedlove commanding you better pull out those shelter building diagrams again…Looks like Obama has picked some winners as leaders….

        • Fred82

          Well,

          Apparently he got rid of General Mattis because certain aides were offended by General Mattis’s asking of questions.

          General Mattis was a true warrior gifted with common sense.

          I know very little about General Breedlove but Hagel has been a huge disappointment thus far and Larry has already talked extensively about John Brennan.

          As far as I can tell, Tom Donilon stinks too.

      • Deapster

        Ukraine is not anywhere on our list of US interests. We have an all-volunteer military. Not gonna go to war no mo.

        • Fred82

          With the impending cuts, I am not sure we could go to war if we wanted to, particularly not in a place that is of little value to the US’s vital national security interests.

          • stodghie

            i heard the navy didn’t have the necessary fund to actually send some of their ships to sea. now that is pathetic. and barry continues to golf while usa burns so to speak.

            • Deapster

              Navy is where the money needs to be sent. Controlling the sea should fall to no other hands, than ours. Period.

          • S7teen70six

            We can all agree that should we need the resources to go to a just war we will find them without hesitation or rebuke.

            • Deapster

              Volunteers show up for just wars; not just for war.

      • binky354

        Not in a mood? We’d be fool to get involved in a war with Russia. Our troops are worn out, spread thin, our equipment being put out to pasture, and experienced commanders put out with the equipment. Obama is destroying our military and our country, I expect getting us ready for the UN to take over.

      • Popsmoke

        and the Russians are more ruthless at the covert stuff than we are…

  • KlugerRD

    You left out one of those “National Security” issues that the media and the administration find more important – - – global warming aka climate change. In fact Kerry made the statements that is is our #1 national security threat.

    • Deapster

      LOL.

  • TeakWoodKite

    In spite of everything done in our name, Barry is a seditious liar who is the most dangerous fool ever selected to piss on the Constitution. All those who ignore the reality of the death of Americans approaching fast from bold face acts of treason committed by Barry are sadly welcome to it.

  • S7teen70six

    I am not going to accept that the majority of people I interact with daily have become Borg. Perhaps they are misinformed or too busy to really care one way or the other. On the other hand, Obama was elected twice. And only an insane populous would do that. So I’d better be careful.

    We live in dangerous times. What perils await us are not welcoming nor welcomed. I’m going to accept Mr. Hersh’s work as an extraordinary work of art. Those of us that are awake and aware enough to pay heed to it are fortunate.

    • DianaLC

      I will die before I assimilate into the Borg collective.

  • wyntre

    What about the bombshell today from Issa that Cummings con spired with Lerner in conservative group targeting?

    • Deapster

      Truth will out.

    • binky354

      I doubt that information coming to light will shut that idiot’s mouth!

  • Deapster

    Game plan: take the link to the Seymour Hersh article ‘The Red Line and the Rat Line” and link it to every blog that will accept it. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

    Or describe the article and tell people how to google it, if the blog refuses to post the link. Make it go viral, since the MSM refuses to deal with it.

  • Deapster

    There is an old saying in Turkey, sometimes you have to break too many eggs to make an omelet.

    Meaning -when too many people lose, there are no winners. There obviously were far money people who would lose besides just those four now dead, for anyone to stomach the exposure of their own in pari delicti in this whole sordid mess.

    However, truth will out. It always does. The unanswered questions loom too large still, and there are those who do know the answers. Key still seems to be the original Benghazi mission and how it came about.

    Sure people can slyly say everyone knows it was for US gun running. But that only describes the mission; NOT how we got into this in the first place.

    And there is still no answer where Obama was between 18:00 and 22:00 on Sept 11, 2012. Nor who exactly were the “senior administration officials” who cared so little about four dead embassy personnel.

    Too many big questions. Just like Watergate. It was buried, and buried and buried until someone like the role of Deep Throat more than loyalty to this administration.

  • S7teen70six

    Charles Krauthammer just said that the clock had run out on Benghazi, that Obama had won. I am almost speechless. And more upset than I intend to display at this moment.

    • DianaLC

      I didn’t see it. Was this article mentioned?
      I have begun to believe that Republicans are just as worried over this as Obama because the biggest fall out would be the anger in Syria and the harm wide knowledge of this would do to our relations with Erdogan in Turkey. But I personally believe it’s time for Turkey to give up on its attempt to allow some Muslim control and go back to the purer secularism of Attaturk. I am pretty sure the young people in Turkey would agree.
      But I don’t care at all what the cost. This needs to be made public so the idiots in D.C. understand that we are getting sick and tired of this meddling and using our weapons and young people in some sort of chess game that we always seem to lose.

      All I can see is that Turkey has brought on anger from more than the Kurds at this point.

      • Dissentispatriotic

        No, the article wasn’t mentioned but a mildly ramped up interest in continuing to investigate. I’ll bet these networks want more solid assurance than just the article. They will NOT go out on this limb but I’ll double-dee guarantee you, if something pops, they’ll be all over it then.

        • Deapster

          Hell, they go out on the bogus climate change issue every day, with unverified misinformation.

        • DianaLC

          Thanks

      • S7teen70six

        This was on Special Report. An All Star moment.

        • DianaLC

          But were they talking specifically about Hersh’s article?

          • S7teen70six

            No, not at all. I have yet to see a conservative media outlet actual discuss the report.

    • Deapster

      What does Issa have to say?

      Finding someone not guilty by default, does not make them innocent.

    • KlugerRD

      I think what Krauthammer was getting to what is what Larry is talking about – - – that our foreign policy is a dangerous mess and the focus should be on that.

      • S7teen70six

        I didn’t exactly get that. He was discussing moving on which I found particularly disturbing. Still do.

        • KlugerRD

          But he followed that up with what they should move on to which was the failed foreign policy all over the world . . . although they should not move off of Benghazi either

          • S7teen70six

            What is past is prologue for future efforts. That is why we cannot forget Benghazi. It represents a pattern of behavior that amply demonstrates just exactly what is wrong with Obama’s foreign policy.

        • KenoshaMarge

          I was upset when he said it and I’m still upset about it. I
          think he was wrong and I’m disturbed that he thinks it’s time to throw in the
          towel on this issue. Tell the families of the four who died that.

          I am very disappointed in Krauthammer. I often am and unlike
          the majority of voices on “The Five” do not regard his every
          utterance as the last word on every subject. He’s much further
          right than I am and far more bellicose on foreign policy.

  • Dissentispatriotic

    Larry’s blog and Hersch’s article should be sent to Megyn Kelly at the very least. She’s most likely to cover it. Hell, if Amy Goodman will interview Hersch, surely Kelly will break the ice with it. I have been looking for something, anything, all week. Nada.

    • DianaLC

      I tried to do that today, but I am no whiz at this stuff and could not get an address other than a twitter address. I have refused to learn to tweet at my age..

      • Dissentispatriotic

        I think it is more and more difficult to contact news personalities or programs other than onTwitter. I don’t tweet either! She does have a FB page, though.

        • DianaLC

          I don’t do facebook either. No one needs to look at this face.

    • S7teen70six

      FOX doesn’t seem interested in the least.

  • stodghie

    has anyone notice the changes at the weather channel? i am wondering if it is just me. i used to tune in the morning to get an update about weather in my area and in general if i was traveling. now i see nonsensical comments and giggle giggle. it irritates my last nerve. i just want information.

  • Deapster

    Gov Moonbeam Jerry Brown in California is not ready for legal pot in this state because he does not want to see us become a “state of slackers”.

    We are now harvesting the first generation of politicians who grew up on early heavy pot use. This impact on long-term cognitive function needs to be taken into consideration:

    From the NIH: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/

    The biggest evidence of impaired judgement for heavy pot users like Obama, is their impaired judgement that the early heavy pot use did not matter. It did.

  • foxyladi14

    Yes we are in deep doo doo.

  • wyntre

    It is chilling. CNN has devolved into the Malaysia Flight 370 Channel. The other LSM presstitutes spend hours on on-issues.

    Where is the coverage of Fort Hood, the Ukraine, the Lois Lerner/IRS corruption, the DOJ corruption, Obamascare, unemployment, the Internet censorship of private businessman Brandon Eich, on and on. All we get is crickets.

    I have never seen such complicit silence in my life.

    I, too, am terrified at what America has become.

    • KenoshaMarge

      I only know what CNN is doing by what I read on-line. Also by the number of cartoons skewering them for their idiocy. I stopped bothering with them when they decided that they didn’t need to report the news, just kiss Obama ass.

      http://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/files/2014/03/Luckovich-CNN.jpg

      • wyntre

        Agree. Unfortunately, millions in this country DO get their news from CNN as does much of the world.

        I tune to CNN at night, during my wind-down for bed, whenever commercials appear on the few shows I watch. For the past MONTH there has been no other topic of discussion other than the Malaysia plane.

        • Deapster

          Don’t forget — China is a big new market for CNN. China cares about this plane, so now does CNN.

    • Deapster

      But we now have the internet. MSM is irrelevant. Turn it off and you will do just fine with a few good weeklies like The Economist, and dailies like the WSJ and the rich environment of the internet blogs.

      Anyone still giving their Nielson rating eyeballs to MSM that justifies MSM’s advertising rates is part of the problem.

      Starve them at the source – stop watching and let them scramble for advertising dollars just like the pathetic shell TIME magazine became when they decided they would be the All Obama, All the Time news magazine.

      • wyntre

        I am an internet junkie and get 95% of my info from certain sites.

        However, I know for sure that millions of Americans get their news from LSM.

        THAT is the problem.

        Hitler famously said, in response to one man disagreeing with his policies, “It doesn’t matter what you think. We have the youth. In less than a generation your views will be irrelevant.”

        (paraphrasing) (I will look for that quote)

        • Deapster

          Wringing our own hands hoping to make a difference in other people’s lives will only waste more of our own time.

          Best to consider this junkie mass appeal of MSM is a fact.

          Then what? All we have is to work harder to elect those who do not live in the MSM bubble.

          GOTV, send $$ and write letters to the editor that are cogent and appealing for others to consider a better alternative. No more scolding. Being bold and forward-thinking. Yo.

          • wyntre

            What? Don’t get your point. This post is about LJ’s worries for the country.

            “I am terrified at what American has become.”

            I agree with him.

            • Deapster

              I agree with you and LJ too. But what do we do besides hand-wring over the conclusion many in our society feed on mindless pap? Serious question.

              • wyntre

                I dunno.

                But sometimes it’s good to get validation of one’s fears.

              • wyntre

                “When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to
                your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What
                are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new
                camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

                - Adolph Hitler Quotes party]
                should not become a constable of public opinion, but must dominate it. It must
                not become a servant of

                “The [Nazi party] should not become a constable of public
                opinion, but must dominate it. It must not become a servant of the masses, but
                their master!”

                - Adolf Hitler

      • jayhdavis

        But for how much longer, since bamy wants to turn it over to the world conglomerate- that will truly end any access to truth in news, and complete the utter destruction he is wreaking upon this country- we are doomed if we lose control of the Internet!

  • buzzlatte3

    Keep banging the drum. People aren’t as unaware as they used to be via scouring the comments. This one is possibly the topper on Obama’s house of cards.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      I’m seeing more on Fox about Benghazi, altho no one is talking about Hersch’s article. McCain is calling for much more scrutiny, and is at least making news about it.

      • Deapster

        Applying the trust but verify principle to the Hersh article before going prime time is a good prudent practice. Too good of a story to blow if there is any attack on its credibility. it will all come out in due time. Maybe not on our time frame (like ASAP)

        • KenoshaMarge

          I hope you’re right. Because right now, from where I sit, it looks as if the conservatives are burying the Hersh article just like the damn left.

  • Deapster

    Hank Aaron sums up the state of debate in Obama’s America: any opponent of Obama is a racist. Swipes all Republicans as bad as the KKK.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/04/08/Hank-Aaron-Compares-Obama-Opponents-to-KKK-They-Wear-Neckties-and-Starched-Shirts-Instead-of-Hoods

    • wyntre

      And Sharpless is hosting him at today’s NAC Convention.

      He’s screaming racism, too.

      • Deapster

        The only conclusion is they like the sound of their own voices, inside their self-constructed echo chambers.

    • stodghie

      how disappointing! it would seem hank aaron wants a medal like oprah and a trip to the kennedy center.

    • KlugerRD

      I grew up with a Hank Aaron baseball glove and worshiped the guy.

      Now I am going to sell because it is as worthless as he is.

  • Deapster

    To repeat LJ’s points, because we are still paying dearly for President’s lying to us in the past and we let them commit lives, resources and our futures as result of these intentional lies: (Vietnam and Iraq)

    LJ:

    …”I will state this clearly–if you think it does not matter that President authorizes the CIA to put together a covert plan to provide arms to radical Islamists intent on ousting a secular ruler then you are a moron.

    If you think it does not matter that the President lies about intelligence and uses this fiction to try to persuade the American public that they should back a military strike in Syria then you are a moron.” …

    NB:

    Yes: the US was tragically moronic on both the Viet-nam and iraq invasion decisions. The duplicitous path to these wars should never, ever be forgotten.

    We here will not forget either points you just made. No, we are not morons. You speak the truth.

  • Deapster

    Keep the light shining, LJ. You are a gift of knowledge and intelligence that is greatly appreciated by a very savvy group of followers.

  • Deapster

    You forgot UConn and the NCAA title.

    And where is Dinesh D’Souza languishing right now who wrote the Obama:2016 expose.

    Or the fact there was no MSM coverage of Bill Ayers being the ghost-writer and fabricator of Obama’s “auto-biography” ..you know, the book “he wrote himself”.

    • wyntre

      And coverage of the Sharpton FBI snitch story?

      • stodghie

        me like! LOL

    • Madame_deFarge

      Dinesh is busy promoting his latest film, “America”. Go to his website to petition theaters in your area to show it. I believe the theme is what the world would be like if America had never existed. He truly lives this country. He thinks Obama will hate this one even more than “2016″.

  • elizabethrc

    The disappointment I feel at even my conservative stations who are ignoring this important expose is profound. Are they so overloaded with government wrongdoing that they can’t fit it into their reporting?
    We all knew we were being ill served by the msm, but now by our own, as well?
    There is growing danger all around us, but we seem less and less inclined to address the instances, the growing military face of our police forces, the swat team, heavily armed attack on ranchers who’ve grazed their cattle since 1870 on the same acreage, only to have them removed by these ‘government’ agents. Where is the outrage?
    How is it that Holder can threaten a member of Congress, as he did yesterday to Louie Gohmert when he said “you’d better not go there, buddy”, in response to a comment by him during the hearing. Why did not Gohmert call him on what was clearly a threat? What repercussions?
    I think it may not be too far fetched to think that the huge and growing number of intrusions, extra-military attacks against citizens, the regulations, the spying are all part of a greater plan to weaken us by the very numbers of events.

  • DianaLC

    The lack of attention to Sy Hersh’s report appalls me. I keep thinking that the people at Fox are having bouts of cognitive dissonance because his report just doesn’t go along with their past “hate Assad” and believe the lie about who did the sarin attack reporting. They’ve also got egg on their faces and are, perhaps, waiting for a way to wash it off and pretend they were right along.
    It’s easy to understand why the MSM are ignoring it.
    But where are the Congressmen and women who’ve been investigating Benghazi all along? Where are the Fox reporters who have done some good work in investigating Benghazi?
    Is this country so frightened of another protracted select committee hearing as happened with Nixon’s scandal? (which was on a less important matter.) What about another Iran-Contra hearing? Or the White Water scandal?
    It’s becoming clear that we have lots of scandalous people in D>C. Maybe they’re all afraid that another scandal will cause us to finally sweep all of them out of office and get some new blood in there, until they become corrupt.
    I still plan to attend any Hillary rally I can get into and carry photos of the dead in Benghazi and signs that indicated their lives did matter.
    Since currently all three of my people in Congress are Dirty Dems, I am going to have to go outside my districts and write to people like Issa and Gowdy and whoever else I can think of. I’m getting my letter ready right now.

    • buckeyeman

      Diana, people are aware of Hersh’s piece, the deafening silence notwithstanding. Take this interview with our illustrious Dennis Kucinich:

      http://en.ria.ru/world/20140409/189128886/INTERVIEW-NATO-Anachronistic-Nightmare-and-Should-Be-Disbanded-.html

      Now, Kucinich is often a nut, but he does make many good points in this interview. Yet, when he gets to talking about Hersh’s piece, and it comes to making the ‘money statement’, Obama’s culpability, he pulls back, almost portraying O as a hostage to those dastardly neocons. He even (wittingly?) gives O an out, stating that he realized the US was being ‘set up’ to invade Syria, and so, called it off.

      Larry is right, it is exactly because Hersh’s piece is so damaging that it is being ‘black holed’. If all the trails are followed, R’s as well as D’s will be caught in the net. So many strings attached to the same puppet masters. …

      • Deapster

        Sounds like Kucinich just validated Hersh’s speculation right on point: Obama finally wavered on bombing Syria because he finally listened to what others had been telling him all along.

        That he was getting bogus intelligence on Syria and the sarin gas attack; no matter how much the Soros Sisters were still trying to cook the books.

        C’mon. I was getting ready to leave for this part of the world at the same time, and I was following Obama’s blustering and blundering minute by minute.

        He was a jerk and someone must have knocked him with a 2×4 to finally get him to pull back on his string of stupid statements and bluffs.

        • buckeyeman

          You don’t think Obama was well aware that Assad was not the source of the sarin attacks, and was still willing to take in US forces? I think the military said ‘no way’, and he may have been persuaded by some on his team that the lie wouldn’t hold up. I’m going to re-read Hersh’s piece, but need to leave for now.

          • Deapster

            I am not sure Obama is in the loop on anything.

            • TeakWoodKite

              indifference to suffering and the truth does that.

      • DianaLC

        I agree completely. I am getting the feeling that as many of the Republicans are going into hiding over this as are the Dems.
        I am totally sick of our elected officials getting us into these situations. I feel dirty, as a tax paying American because I feel like I am to blame for that sarin attack in some way. Just as I felt guilty about the genocide of the Kurds in 1988 by Saddam Hussein, then our ally, and using what was most likely our gas. And don’t get me started on Agent Orange–I lost a good high school friend on that one.
        We should have a say in what agents and what weapons are being provided to people because we pay for those damned weapons.

      • S7teen70six

        Such a great interview. Thanks.

  • KenoshaMarge

    While not all of us are like the morons who sop up the pap the media serves 24/7 far too many are. Many, most aren’t even smart enough to know what is happening. I am also terrified at what is happening in this country.

    There have always been biased people in the media. But even those with a liberal lean, and that was most, at least made some effort to actually report on facts. No more.

    We now have media for the liberals and by the liberals. The left is not only not happy with that they are outraged when anyone deviates from stroking the left with every program or article.

    • KenoshaMarge

      And I do not blame the politicians 1/2 as much as I blame the media the the potted plants that watch it.

      • Deapster

        Exactly, we still keep voting for this treatment. Until this is better understood, the rest of these specific issues are just meaningless details.

        The only solace we have now is the presence of the obots who confirm we indeed are telling the truth, and they actively do not like it.

        Otherwise they would not even bother showing up.

      • kmansfield

        That is the nature of an illiberal democracy. Elections are controlled, actual voting is made as difficult as possible, ballots are voided or discovered in the trunk of someone’s car. Voting machines are rigged.

        Who the actual candidates are is controlled, and if an undesirable independent minded person starts getting ahead, then the candidate will be shut out at primary level,(even if you don’t like Ron Paul, see what the Republicans and Romney in NV did to him) or the delegates or super delegates will steer it to the predetermined outcome. They aren’t legally required to vote according to what the voters chose. it’s pretend democracy.

        It’s like the choices we have with our MSM press, pre-selected and awful.

    • S7teen70six

      I think it time to call them socialists instead of liberals, because that is what they are. They are a mockery of democracy and an assault upon liberty.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Media may well be socialists, I simply don’t know. But the public that sop up their slop are simply ignorant fools. Most are damn determined to stay that way.

      • kmansfield

        lemon socialists. They are all neoliberalcons.

  • Dave L.

    I might piss some people off with this statement, but I don’t care. I find myself wishing for inoperable colo-rectal cancer for every one of these main stream media assholes that have helped this administration ruin this country. The MSM played a large part in getting this BASTARD elected, and they still perpertrate this fraud on the American people. You are right Larry, the free press owes the American people sane and honest news reporting, not this entertainment mentality they foist on the country !

    • DianaLC

      I think that since they are showing defects in thinking, they all deserve fast acting Alzheimer’s instead.

      • Deapster

        They are all poster children for: “This is your brain on drugs.”