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More on the Non Reaction in the US to Sy Hersh’s Important Piece

I am going to keep flogging this dog. Why? Because Barack Obama tried to take us to war in Syria on a lie. Watching the mainstream media stay mute in the aftermath of the publication of Sy’s piece is instructive and disturbing. Their mass refusal to simply deal with the facts presented by Sy stands in stark contrast to the reaction in Europe and Turkey. The Turkish Government is furious. They are calling Sy a liar and a senile has been. Yet, Sy did not create nor post on You Tube the recording of Turkish officials talking about staging an attack to make it appear that it was carried out by the Syrian Government. The Turks themselves provided the evidence that corroborates Sy’s reporting.

Let’s review the evidence:

First, the June 20th talking points prepared for the Deputy Director of DIA states:

that al-Nusra maintained a sarin production cell: its programme, . . . was ‘the most advanced sarin plot since al-Qaida’s pre-9/11 effort’. (According to a Defense Department consultant, US intelligence has long known that al-Qaida experimented with chemical weapons, and has a video of one of its gas experiments with dogs.) The DIA paper went on: ‘Previous IC [intelligence community] focus had been almost entirely on Syrian CW [chemical weapons] stockpiles; now we see ANF attempting to make its own CW … Al-Nusrah Front’s relative freedom of operation within Syria leads us to assess the group’s CW aspirations will be difficult to disrupt in the future.’

Second, per one of Sy’s sources, the US intel community was reporting in late July/early August 2013 that Turkey’s leaders, distraught over the failing fortunes of the Islamist rebels in Turkey, were planning an event that would compel the United States to intervene in Syria.

White House reaction? They initially claimed that the talking points paper did not exist. Now that Sy obviously has a hard copy in hand, the White House only looks foolish in making such a denial. Sy’s evidence fully exposes the White House covert action designed to isolate Syria’s Bashir Assad and justify a US military attack on Syria targets.

As we look back to the attacks on 21 August, the US intelligence community and the White House were oddly silent. Why oddly? The preparations the Syrian military would have had to undertake in order to launch a chemical weapon barrage should have been quickly and easily identified by both the United States and Israel. The reason for this is simple–Syrian chemical weapons do represent a strategic threat to Israel. Israel cannot afford to wait until an attack starts to learn that Syria is launching chemical weapons. Deafening silence.

Sy reported last December, in his piece, “Whose Sarin?” that:

For two days – 20 and 21 August – there was no mention of Syria. On 22 August the lead item in the Morning Report dealt with Egypt; a subsequent item discussed an internal change in the command structure of one of the rebel groups in Syria. Nothing was noted about the use of nerve gas in Damascus that day. It was not until 23 August that the use of sarin became a dominant issue, although hundreds of photographs and videos of the massacre had gone viral within hours on YouTube, Facebook and other social media sites.

Fortuitously or coincidentally, UN weapons inspectors were on the ground in Syria when the so-called Sarin attacks took place. The deniers of Sy’s investigative report, such as this idiot who calls himself Brown Moses (I suppose he’s brown because his head is up his ass most of the time), tried to use YouTube video to build their fantasy forensic case. Many initially seized on the UN report as buttressing the case against the Syrian Government. But those were only people who did not take time to actually read the report–the UN only recovered two rockets from two separate sites and only found chemical traces consistent with Sarin at one site–a site that was under rebel control.

While the New York Times initially tried to push the lie that the Syrian Government had fired the rockets, work by Ted Postol of Massachusetts Institute of Technology demolished that nonsense. Hell, the NY Times even had to reverse themselves and concede that their initial report was dead ass wrong.

A careful reading of Sy’s latest work will enable you to understand why the United States is meddling in this way. Ignoring our responsibility for turning Iraq into a Shia controlled state under the influence of Iran, we have not cast our lots with the Saudis and the Turks in an effort to try to weaken Iran by taking out their client state, Syria. Yet, despite our tough talk about Iran, we meekly looked away as Turkey itself violated UN sponsored economic sanctions and bought oil from Iran. But Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton also put us on the side of the very same Islamic radicals who attacked us on September 11, 2001.

Rather than help expose this disgraceful hypocrisy and feckless policy, the print and electronic media say nothing about Sy’s piece and continue to cheerlead Barack Obama as he steers this nation towards disaster. Thank God for a journalist like Sy Hersh.

  • BannedAgain18

    back to your censorship… banning comments that do not agree with you = absolutely no balls..

    *********

    “Because Barack Obama tried to take us to war in Syria on a lie. ”

    I hardly think a limited air strike campaign that was entirely projected was taking the U.S. for war. If that is the case, then the U.S. has been in plenty more wars than the history books tell us in the last few decades with all the air strikes the U.S. has done. So are drone strikes considered the U.S. at war in those countries with the drone strikes? Some would say yes, but that is not the traditional definition of war.

    Beyond that there is no proof that anyone lied about anything with regard to who was responsible for the gas attack. Most of the evidence points to the Assad regime. There is almost no evidence that says it was the rebels.

    So now Obama does not have to actually take us to “war”, but only has to threaten it to be guilty of something. Obama actually took it to Congress and the threat of air strikes alone was enough to force Assad to get rid of his chemical weapons. What happened to your criticism of Obama for not being a tough talker, as per your initial comments on the Ukraine? What is it Larry Johnson, you want Obama to be a tough talker or not?

    Now if we had McCain or Romney, the guys you voted for, as President, the U.S. would be much much more involved in Syria. Obama did exactly the right thing, which resulted in Syria giving up its chemical weapons.

  • HELENK2

    http://prepperchimp.com/2014/04/15/armed-guards-surround-bundy-supporters-fear-imminent-threat/

    armed guards surround budy supporters fear imminent threat.

    I keep thinking of a parody of the old song One toke over line. this Bundy thing might be the one step over the line by the backtrack bunch that blows this country wide open

  • Deapster

    The new HSS Secretary appointee Sylvia Burwell has a very interesting CV and skill set, including rummaging Vince Foster’s garbage after his death when working as an aide for the Clinton administration.

    Like Obama, she has no serious work record yet was handed the plumb OMB job, which she undertook for a whole year before moving on to another slot for which she remains eminently unqualified for as well:

    http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/sylvia-burwell-who-she-and-why-did-she-go-through-vince-fosters-garbage

  • S7teen70six

    While no one was looking……

    A new video shows what looks like the largest and most dangerous gathering of al Qaeda in years. And the CIA and the Pentagon either didn’t know about it or couldn’t get a drone there in time to strike.

    U.S. officials won’t comment on that, but every frame of the video is now being analyzed by the United States.

    In the middle of the clip, the man known as al Qaeda’s crown prince, Nasir al-Wuhayshi, appears brazenly out in the open, greeting followers in Yemen. Al-Wuhayshi, the No. 2 leader of al Qaeda globally and the head of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, has said he wants to attack the United States. But in the video, he looks unconcerned that he could be hit by an American drone.

    • binky354

      US is too busy providing its Agencies with ammunition. Now it’s the US Post Office buying up…why is the House allowing this?

    • Deapster

      Just back from our little local IRS office and there is a guard sitting in the small reception area – listlessly pointing to the direction of the unmarked door.

      When did IRS offices now need guards? I guess once the IRS decided to play partisan and tick off even more people than just loyal taxpayers.

      One more “federal job” created, thanks to the Obama administration creating the need first, and now the permanent employment slot so we can all feel safer.

      Before Obama, what was more boring than our IRS offices. Now they are on the front lines in the war on terror – the war of Obama against the citizens of the United States of America.

  • Deapster

    Dr Ben Carson told to apologize to Obama for offending him, as revealed in book by Carson soon to be released:

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/14/ben-carson-white-house-wanted-apology-for-offending-obama/

    • KenoshaMarge

      And he did not. And he should not. WTF? Now having the guts to disagree with Obama and saying so means you offend him and must apologize? Screw him and the horses asses that contacted Dr. Carson!

  • KenoshaMarge
  • John_Frank

    Indirectly related to Mr. Hersh’s piece:

    German television report indicates Ukrainian opposition responsible for lethal shootings

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/04/14/getv-a14.html

    Yes, the article discussing the broadcast was published on the World Socialist Web Site.

    So, if people wish they can simply dismiss the report.

    That written, the report was broadcast on the German public television program “Monitor” last Thursday evening. This is a reputable show.

    The video of the show is available online:

    http://www.wdr.de/tv/monitor//sendungen/2014/0410/maidan.php5

    Unfortunately, the broadcast is in German. Someone with the necessary language skills may want to contact the broadcaster and see if the video can be reproduced with English subtitles.

    Why is this relevant?

    The ultimate justification for overthrowing President Yanukovich in Ukraine was the claim that he had ordered the killing of protesters on 20 February, 2014.

    If, as many believe, the killings were carried out by snipers associated with the opposition and the investigation being carried out by the interim government in Ukraine is simply a white wash, what does that say about the Obama administration actions involving Ukraine?

    Fast forward, yesterday was a tumultuous day in Ukraine. Kyviv Post has been providing Live Updates of events in Ukraine:

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraines-ultimatum-9-am-deadline-passes-in-east-four-dead-in-sloviansk-live-updates-343380.html

    The report makes for an informative read. The headline reads:

    Protesters gather outside Rada, demand Avakov’s resignation, government intervention in eastern Ukraine

    The opening two paragraphs is a summary of events:

    “Interim President Oleksandr Turchynov ‘s 9 a.m. deadline for pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine to lay down their arms has passed without Ukrainian launching any military action. Turchynov had threatened to launch “a full-scale anti-terrorist operation” against separatists, but not only has that not happened, he called for a national referendum on greater regional autonomy.

    Armed Russian-backed militants, meanwhile, continued to stay on the offensive and took over government buildings in Donetsk Oblast, the latest one being the Horlivka police station.”

    The latest entry is relevant for our purposes:

    11:30 p.m. — Protesters gather outside Rada, demand Avakov’s resignation, government intervention in eastern Ukraine

    Activists have marched on the Verkhovna Rada, demanding that the central government take action to quell the uprisings that have spread throughout much of eastern Ukraine since April 6. The protesters are calling for the resignation of Interior Minister Arsen Avakov.

    Protesters in Kyiv and elsewhere have expressed frustration at the government’s reluctance to send troops to eastern Ukraine to combat the separatist movements that are devouring large swaths of the country.

    Praviy Sektor, the far-right political group that was integral in ousting former President Victor Yanukovych, wrote on its Facebook page that “people have refrained from storming the building, but have lit a small fire outside the entrance to Parliament.”

    However, Pravyi Sector spokesman Artem Skoropadsky said “it’s not Pravyi Sector who’s storming the parliament building now,” Skoropadsky wrote on his Facebook page.

    “Maidan activists and those who gathered near Verkhovna Rada now are just those ordinary Ukrainians who can’t stand the new government’s policy anymore. Those are people who want to see Praviy Sektor in a new government, because we are ready to combat the coup in eastern Ukraine,” Skoropadsky said.

    While Praviy Sektor, or Right Sector is described by Kyriv Post as “a far right political group,” the Right Sector agenda is neo-Nazi in nature, or neo-national socialist, meaning the political group is actually far left.

    Be that as it may, the Obama administration knowingly used a neo-Nazi political group to achieve the goal of overthrowing President Yanukovich, and this same group is now pushing for the use of force against the protesters in eastern Ukraine.

    During the course of the day, Vladimir Putin requested a telephone call with Barrack Obama yesterday. Follows is the read out of the call, first from the Russians:

    Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the United States of America Barack Obama.
    http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/7020

    “The leaders discussed various aspects of the crisis in Ukraine, first and foremost in the southeastern regions engulfed by mass protests against the policies of the current authorities in Kiev.

    The Russian side stressed that the protests in Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Slavyansk and other cities in southeastern Ukraine are the result of the Kiev authorities’ unwillingness and inability to take into account the interests of the Russian and Russian-speaking population. Vladimir Putin called upon Barack Obama to use the American side’s capabilities to prevent the use of force and bloodshed.

    In response to the US President’s expressed concern about Russia’s alleged interference in southeastern Ukraine, the President of Russia noted that such speculations are based on inaccurate information. The current Ukrainian authorities must think first and foremost about truly involving all the main political forces and regions in a transparent process for developing a new constitution that guarantees the main rights and freedoms for citizens, the nation’s federal structure and its non-aligned status.

    The two sides agreed to continue efforts to seek diplomatic cooperation in the context of the Ukrainian situation ahead of the four-party meeting (EU, Russia, US and Ukraine) scheduled to take place in Geneva on April 17.”

    Next from the White House:

    Readout of the President’s call with President Putin as issued by the White House:
    https://twitter.com/NSCPress/status/455850498063486976

    “At Moscow’s request, President Obama spoke with Russian President Putin today about the situation in Ukraine.

    The President expressed grave concern about Russian government support for the actions of armed, pro-Russian separatists who threaten to undermine and destabilize the government of Ukraine.

    The President emphasized that all irregular forces in the country need to lay down their arms, and he urged President Putin to use his influence with these armed, pro-Russian groups to convince them to depart the buildings they have seized.

    The President reiterated the importance of Russia withdrawing its troops from Ukraine’s border in order to defuse tensions. President Obama noted that despite the rhetoric from Russian officials, the government of Ukraine has acted with remarkable restraint, and he praised the Ukrainian government’s efforts to unify the country by holding free and fair presidential elections on May 25, pursuing inclusive constitutional reform and proposing concrete steps toward the decentralization of power.

    The President noted Russia’s growing political and economic isolation as a result of its actions in Ukraine and made clear that the costs Russia already has incurred will increase if those actions persist.

    The President noted the upcoming contact group meeting in Geneva and said that while he continues to believe that a diplomatic solution is still possible, it cannot succeed in an environment of Russian military intimidation on Ukraine’s borders, armed provocation within Ukraine, and escalatory rhetoric by Kremlin officials.”

    Is the Obama administration serious?

    Does the President and his advisers really believe that threats of more “political sanctions” is going to deter Russia from defending its national security interests?

    Does the President and his advisers not understand that the imposition of “economic sanctions” will result in Russia deciding to sell its natural gas and crude oil in a currency other than the U.S. dollar, which will have an immediate negative impact on the value of the U.S. dollar and our economy?

    Does the Obama administration want Ukraine to erupt into a civil war?

    Oh yes, Kyiv Post is reporting that:

    West approves $3.2 billion package for Ukraine
    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/west-approves-32-billion-package-for-ukraine-343457.html

    The Obama administration has signed a $1 billion loan guarantee agreement with the Turchynov administration. His administration includes a number of cabinet ministers who are members of the Svoboda Party.

    Why is this relevant?

    Just over 15 months:the European Parliament adopted resolution 2012/2889(RSP) which had this to say about the Svoboda Party:

    “The European Parliament … 8. Is concerned about the rising nationalistic sentiment in Ukraine, expressed in support for the Svoboda Party, which, as a result, is one of the two new parties to enter the Verkhovna Rada; recalls that racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views go against the EU’s fundamental values and principles and therefore appeals to pro-democratic parties in the Verkhovna Rada not to associate with, endorse or form coalitions with this party;”
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+TA+P7-TA-2012-0507+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN

    Put it all together and what do you have?

    1. The Casus belli which lead to the overthrow of the Yanukovich administration in Ukraine was due to snipers associated with the opposition killing innocent civilians.

    2. A neo-Nazi paramilitary group played a prominent role.in this effort and is now pushing for a direct confrontation in eastern Ukraine.

    3. The interim Ukrainian Government has a number of Cabinet ministers in key national security posts who are members of the Svoboda Party.

    4. The Governing coalition in the Verkhovna Rada includes the Svoboda Party.

    5. We are providing a loan guarantee to a country whose interim Government came into power in large part due to the efforts of neo-Nazi’s, has ministers who are members of a political party that the European parliament has said holds views which are “racist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views” and that “go against the EU’s fundamental values and principles;” and the governing coalition includes members of this party.

    And we are doing what we are doing in Ukraine in the name of “democracy?”

    • S7teen70six

      Really great info, thanks.

    • John_Frank

      As to the Ukraine situation, a couple of other reports that may help shed light on matters:

      1. Evidence pointing to Russian involvement in unrest in eastern Ukraine

      Tapped Calls Show Russian Servicemen Active in Ukraine, Security Service Says
      http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/tapped-calls-show-russian-servicemen-active-in-ukraine-security-service-says/498044.html

      The tapped calls were released by the Ukraine Security Service on Monday.

      2. Attack on Presidential candidates in Kiev

      Pro-Russian Ukrainian Presidential Candidate Severely Beaten in Kiev
      http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/pro-russian-ukrainian-presidential-candidate-severely-beaten-in-kiev/498052.html

      Also read:

      Ukraine presidential candidates attacked in Kiev
      http://rt.com/news/ukraine-presidential-candidates-attacked-516/

      3. On the same day that these individuals were attacked, the Office of the UN Human Rights Commissioner released an initial report on the situation in Ukraine:

      Ukraine: Misinformation, propaganda and incitement to hatred need to be urgently countered – UN human rights report
      http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=14511&LangID=E

      The full report can be read here:

      http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_Report_15April2014.doc

      It will be interesting to see whether the UN Human Rights Commissioner details these attacks in the next report, along with the response of the Ukrainian Government, especially in light of the following:

      Criminal Case for Separatism Opened Against Ukrainian Presidential Candidate Severely Beaten in Kiev
      http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/criminal-case-for-separatism-opened-against-ukrainian-presidential-candidate-severely-beaten-in-kiev/498052.html

      By proceeding in this manner, the Ukrainian authorities are giving the Russian Federation cause to refuse to recognize the results of the upcoming elections.

      P.S. The writer notes in passing that the State of Israel has taken a strictly neutral stance towards the situation in Ukraine, including abstaining on the March 27 United Nations General Assembly vote condemning a March 16 referendum in Crimea in favor of joining Russia; it was virtually alone among American allies in not voting for the resolution.

      • KlugerRD

        First. Thanks for your post and analysis.

        While I agree that there seems to be a pattern (not a good one) of American involvement in foreign conflicts I am not sure if it is by intent or not.

        The way I have viewed this conflict in Ukraine is at its core it is much more about economics than military objectives.

        With an enormous network of natural gas pipelines running throughout Ukraine from Russia, Russia has a vital interest in maintaining either the status quo or at the very least a nonaligned government that would not be belligerent toward Russia.

        Buried in this article today was:

        “Russia has already spelt out its objectives in Ukraine: the Kremlin wants the country to have a new constitution allowing total autonomy for the eastern regions. In addition, Russia demands that this new settlement must guarantee Ukraine’s non-aligned status – in other words, rule out membership of Nato or the European Union for ever.”

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10765533/What-does-Vladimir-Putin-want-in-Ukraine.html

        Putin has played this like a chessmaster while the west led by Obama has been playing checkers.

        This has been an economic conflict between Russia and the EU. So I am still troubled why the U.S. is even involved at all. The EU escalated this into a NATO conflict to draw in the U.S.

        The phone call Obama and Putin had using what Putin said happened (which is probably the truth) Putin likely baited Obama, again, to solve the unrest inside Ukraine knowing Obama will not which will leave a vacuum for Russia to enter based on humanitarian reasons.

  • Deapster

    Obama should give every cent from his books sales back to the buyers he intentionally and fraudulently deceived:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/12/Plummeting-Book-Sales-Contribute-to-Decline-in-Obamas-Income

  • Deapster

    Obama is losing pajama boy:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/14/Pew-Research-Finds-Democrats-Losing-Millennials

    If only the 2012 election were today, and the disaffected Millennials had their ephineny before they voted last time.

  • no_longer_a_democrat

    I’m surprised no Obots have cried RAAACIIISTSS yet again against Mr. Johnson’s piece for daring to question Obie’s sheer and utter incompetence!

    • John_Frank

      Given Obama’s background and belief system, why do you believe it is incompetence?

  • Deapster

    More pay to play, the Chicago Way.

    http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml

    Justice Dept blocks mergers of conservative companies and green lights Obama supporter companies.

    IRS partisan treatment of progressive groups and blocking conservative groups looks like just the tip of the ice-berg in Obama’s Chicago style management of the Executive Office.

    Obama will ring in as our most overtly corrupt POTUS of all. Harding gets that honor know, but Mr Obama has well outdistanced him in scope and numbers.

  • Deapster

    OT:

    DCCC chair claims most Republicans are “animated by racism”. Gives a total pass to all the race hustlers from the POTUS on down, within his own party.

    http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/04/13/NRCC-Asks-DCCC-Chair-Steve-Israel-to-Name-The-Racists

    • S7teen70six

      If I was a Republican (which I am not) I would consider this a declaration of war.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Also not a Republican. I suspect that except for the few members of the GOP who haven’t been beaten into submission by the liberal media for liberal citizens and by the fools and cowards in their own party there aren’t enough Republicans to fight a war. Or the numbers for more than a skirmish.

        Which would then be reported as a war of Republican Agression on the black/female/Hispanic citizenry of the country. Add in any other “victims” as they are added to the list of those fighting against “white privilege”.

        Meanwhile over at CNN…

  • HELENK2

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/04/14/michael-graham-brandeis-embraced-bill-ayers-has-bred-terrorists

    some interesting information about Brandeis

    momma don’t send your kid to Brandeis

  • Deapster

    Another Breitbart thread where to link the Seymour Hersh article:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/04/13/Benghazi-Mom-Hillary-Cannot-be-President-She-Lied-To-My-Face

    Sean Smith’s mother speaks out directly to Hilary Clinton.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Media is now engaged in not just protecting their man in the White House, after all they were the ones who got him elected, but now they are busy little bees protecting Hillary – another serial liar.

  • Deapster

    Once you take federal money, Obama and his pen can do whatever he wants, unilaterally and without recourse.

    Lesson learned in the recent junk food fiat wiping them out of schools getting federal aid with just a stroke of his pen.
    The issue is not the value of the end result; the issue is the scary process.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/13/Obama-s-Gov-t-Bans-All-Junk-Food-in-Schools

    The mind boggles at the endless possibilities Obama can exercise under this same reasoning. But we should have seen this coming.

    • binky354

      In my day, we didn’t even have a fresh apple vending machine. We carried our lunch to school in a “syrup bucket.” My favorite lunch was brown sugar and butter (fresh cow’s butter) on a biscuit. Can’t remember what else was in that bucket — maybe 2 biscuits, maybe one with apple butter, and there could have been an apple off the tree. Didn’t have a weight problem either. We walked to school. My walk was about a mile one way.

      • Deapster

        I guess your favorite home-made lunch would be banned today: carbs, carbs, carbs and animal fats.

        Where is the joy of childhood any longer. Everything is now toxic, according to someone. Obscene.

        As Julia Childs said: “Americans, they are so afraid of their food”.

        • binky354

          Imagine that–my food would be banned! And I’m still alive!

          • KenoshaMarge

            I remember the most common lunch my Mom packed for us as being a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, she made the jelly, a piece of fruit and a cupcake or cookies, also made by my mom. We could buy a milk at school.
            The idea that anyone else had the right to tell my Mom what to feed us would have been unthinkable. But that was back when Americans were still semi-free. Back before the government began to rule instead of govern.

    • DianaLC

      I don’t remember even having a vending machine in my school.
      In my elementary school we had the mean lunch ladies who wouldn’t give us seconds of anything unless we had eaten everything else.
      In high school, our school, a semi-private school run by the ed department of the ocal college, we had an hour lunch hour since we were on the same schedule as the college. We could bring lunches or eat in the cafeteria, or we could walk a few blocs and get something from the local Dairy Queen.
      In any case, it pretty much boiled down to how much money our parents would give us or if they would give us anything at all and just hand us our cafeteria passes or our sacked lunches.

  • Deapster

    Good place to introduce the link to Hersh’s Benghazi Syria article — in the comments section — Breitbart California piece about Hilary’s disrupted visit to San Diego.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/04/13/Hillary-Clinton-Benghazi-Protest-San-Diego

    • Deapster

      Already picked up the typical responses after posting this link, with even a dose of the “birthers” slur thrown into the typical Democrat soup: deny, dismiss, divert, deflect and denigrate.

      This article draws full count press because it is obvious the Dems, esp the Hilbots, do not want it to get out. And they are ready with their stock responses.

      Time to salt this article link (The Red Line and the Rat Line) to every liberal blog you can find. And the conservative ones too.

      Bookmark it and plant it on every blog story about Hilary until we see some action. Get it into every sympathetic listener you can find — like these good ladies in San Diego.

  • Deapster

    Sherril Atkinson discusses news rooms backing off on some stories due to the push-back from the White House and/or corporate interests who do not want the story out.

    This burial of the Hersh article would be a qualifying twofer: push back from both Obama forces and pro-HRC corporate forces.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/3463702846001/sharyl-attkisson-on-leaving-cbs/#sp=show-clips (8 minutes)

  • HELENK2

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/62385

    more info on the bundy standoff. make sure to read the comments

    • Deapster

      Welcome back.

      • HELENK2

        I changed from firefox to chrome and I am still trying to understand it

        • HELENK2

          so far it sucks

    • binky354

      Here’s another one with some links in the body:

      http://www.rootforamerica.com/webroot/blog/

    • Dave L.

      This fiasco is not over by a long shot. The
      Feds will be back and next time they will have a 20 mile radius blocked off to keep the public at a distance ! This was just a hit and run incursion to see what they were going to have to deal with. Make no mistake, next time shots will be fired if the Feds deem it necessary. You have no rights under this administration, they are going to do as they wish, with Barkey and Holders blessings !

  • beyond partisan

    I’ve noticed something about the left. They really can’t handle criticism or any sort of dissent or opposing opinion. For example, with this Bundy ranch crisis, I commented several times on the Southern Poverty Law Center article and mentioned that fracking rights were possibly involved. I also criticized the SPLC for being the “haters.” Well, they banned me. They took all my posts off. They also did this for anyone who brought up Harry Reid etc.

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/04/10/anti-government-patriots-gather-near-scene-of-nevada-ranchers-dispute-over-cattle-grazing-rights/#disqus_thread

    This isn’t just about removing trolls off the site – it’s about removing any and all opposing viewpoints.

    More and more I see leftists saying that that “bigots” of the right need to shut up and stop speaking in public. Christians should just keep their “ideas” to the churches and leave it out of the public square.

    So in relation to this news from Sy, it’s not surprising there is a media blackout. The left cannot handle any slight bit of criticism, critical thinking, or accountability. They have to live in this pre-constructed fairyland where all is well and the only “bad guys” who are stopping their “progress” are the evil “right-wing extremists.”

    I am more and more thinking that the hardcore leftists have serious psychological issues that are making them crazy, authoritarian, and unable to see any reason or consider another viewpoint.

    • KlugerRD

      The left never has history and facts on their side, so they have to resort to distortion and demagoguery.

    • Deapster

      Columnist Michael Smerconish writes the most stunning comments about retiring Harvard criminal law professor Alan Dershsowitz:

      http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/04/09/223835/michael-smerconish-dershowitz.html

      1. ….About US Sen Ted Cruz (former Dershowitz student): “Off the charts brilliant. As you know, liberals make the terrible mistake, including some of my friends and colleagues, of thinking that all conservatives are dumb.

      “And I think one of the reasons that conservatives have been beating liberals in the courts and the public debates is because we underestimate them. Never underestimate Ted Cruz. He is off-the-charts brilliant.”

      2. “There was also the Harvard Law student who couldn’t get into a Dershowitz class (criminal law) despite multiple attempts: Barack Obama. “Twice because the computer kept him out”, Mr Dershowitz said. “It wasn’t my fault”.

      Huh?

    • KenoshaMarge

      I can’t remember the article I was reading but I copied the following paragraph because I thought it so appropriate when talking about the left.

      Then yesterday on FOX News Sunday George Will skewered the Dems so perfectly it was a gem that should resonate for years to come.

      Christopher Caldwell of the Weekly Standard: “the laments of the small-town leftists get voiced with such intemperance and desperation. As if those who voice them are fighting off the nagging thought: If the Republicans aren’t particularly evil, then maybe I’m not particularly special.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ysrM7wj3-mQ

      • DianaLC

        Well, yesterday we got icy rain followed later in the day by icy snow that was very cold–and most of all it left the grournd covered inwhite. Colorado is therefore racist.

    • DianaLC

      I think they’re desperate because they know they are losing the battle for our minds. We can’t be turned into useful idiots, and we’re homeschooling more and more kids who also have minds.
      And those pesky people who live in the west have too many guns and also like living in the country away from “group think.”

  • Deapster

    40 people in San Diego still get it about Benghazi: Hillary lied; people died.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/04/13/Hillary-Clinton-Benghazi-Protest-San-Diego

  • KenoshaMarge

    Sy Hersh laid out the facts for the world to see. If he was just wrong we would see NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC along with PBS poking holes in his article hour after hour. Instead? Silence.

    Knowing how the liberal media, for liberal voters, likes to punish anyone who does not kowtow to their Prezzy where is the outrage that he dared? Where are the smears? The attacks? The pissy little comments? Instead there is an orchastrated silence. That is more telling than their usual bias.

    And FOX? Townhall.com? Weasel Zippers? Drudge and a host of other conservative media and online sites are as silent as the MSM they claim to fight. Shame on them for their silence. Any trust I had in them is halved and I only trusted then about halfway anyway.

    • Deapster

      The collective silence is as deafening as was to the whereabouts of Obama between 18:00 and 22:00 on Sept 11, 2012.

      Wonder what Ulstermann’s has to say about all of this, because he agreed the total 9/11/12 Obama black-out was indeed curious.

  • S7teen70six

    When Erdogan watched the fall of the Muslim Brotherhood while Barry was fiddling with himself, he must have considered at that exact moment: this bamboozler can be hoodwinked.

  • stodghie

    i think this article might be of interest. it has to do with obama starting to say goodbye. http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/obama-begins-to-say-good-bye-20140411

    • Deapster

      History is rendering a better judgment of GW Bush, that is for sure. But only because it has had 8 years of Obama who jumped the shark for the worst ever Presidency.

      BTW: Obama did not inherit a train wreck. He walked into the job with both eyes open, telling us He Alone was the man of the hour to save us all.

      Gheesh, what a liar. Someone toss him a bottle of water to heal his feinting soul.

      • KenoshaMarge

        The whole “he inherited” talking point line is so much b.s. He fought, down and very dirty, he spent nearly a billions dollars to get the job he’s whined about ever since.

        • Deapster

          Exactly. Just one more Obama lie. Maybe his biggest. Too many of us watched what he did to HRC to get this job. Took no prisoners.

          • KenoshaMarge

            And now all the media types that joined him in attacking her are now falling all over themselves to kiss hersizable derriere.

    • Deapster

      Since he said hello calling us racist, partisan and divisive SOB’s, one can only guess how he will say good-by.

      Obama was certainly not morning again in America. He was our longest nightmare.

    • DianaLC

      Well, I’ll certainly say goodbye and good riddance. I don’t believe, however, that his reputation will be bettered by time’s passing as was LBJ’s.

  • MJUdall

    What do you expect from the media with moron apologists like this one claiming Mccarthyism when in fact it is the IRS who is actively engaging in it. And there’s a paper trail to prove it. http://therightscoop.com/alex-wagners-love-letter-to-the-irs-a-touching-montage/

    • Deapster

      This nation and MSNBC has dropped down Alice’s rabbit hole. How are they even surviving on their poor viewer numbers. Best thing to do is boycott their remaining sponsors, and tell the sponsors why.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Boycotting sponsors will hurt them some but it’s the way cable is structured that is the real problem. We all pay towards the channels we don’t watch and don’t want. If we only paid for the ones we want and watch marginal cable channels like MSNBC would go under. This way they can “live” with the low ratings, hurting only their pride, so long as they get their money along with the popular programming.

  • Dave L.

    It is frustrating to have knowledge of a subject, and the msm reports something totally different on the subject at hand. Trying to explain, when you have first hand knowledge of a subject, makes your head want to explode when you are questioned. I have people tell me , It must be true, I heard it on PBS !! Obama, his incompetent administration, and the MSM are nothing more than obscene bubbles in the stream of life. I am retired from CBP with a majority of my time spent in the U.S. Customs Service. I have a son that is a station chief for CBP, I get information that is not usually reported to the general public. I watch the news or read the news as reported by the talking heads, and I want to laugh at the complete bullshit expoused by these idiots. Blogs such as this one are a great source of finding out some of the truth as reported by people that still have contacts or personal first hand knowledge of what the hell is going on ! Great job, keep it coming !!

  • jbjd

    LJ, you wrote, “Ignoring our responsibility for turning Iraq into a Shia controlled state under the influence of Iran, we have not cast our lots with the Saudis and the Turks in an effort to try to weaken Iran by taking out their client state, Syria.”

    • http://noquarterusa.net Larry Johnson

      Typo. Thanks. I fixed it. Meant “now” vis “not.”

  • Retired_from_SPOnaj

    But Larry, the USG denies Hersh’s story. And we know that the USG, at least the USG under the Obama administration would never lie. So Hersh must be wrong, correct? I mean, it’s not as though Bush is President. The USG used to lie all the time under Bush, and same was regularly reported in the press. But since the press isn’t reporting the Obama administration as lying, it must not be lying, correct? C’mon, Obots, weigh in here!

    • Deapster

      Obots too light weight to weigh in on anything.

      • Fred82

        That’s about right. They howled about the mistakes and evil deeds of Bush until they seized power.

        Upon seizing power, the Left offered no solutions for the problems that existed under Bush and continued the practices they once deemed as “evil.”

        • Deapster

          The current re-emergence of the affable, softer-side GWBush must be making their brains implode.

    • DianaLC

      Their brain capacity is too small to follow your reasoning, especially since you are using a bit of irony. Obots understand only one thing: “O must always be right.”

      • KenoshaMarge

        Obots and reasoning simply do not go together. Perhaps that explains this car-ma

  • elizabethrc

    There is something new in the air. I’ve been watching the stand off in Nevada between the Bureau of Land Management the owner of a ranch (family owned and grazed since 1870 by the same family). They maintain he’s grazing on federal land and has not paid a million in past fees. They swooped in with helicopters, heavy armaments, dogs and came down on the family. They threw down one of the pregnant wives, sicced the dogs on one of the men and tased another.
    I listened to the owner of this ranch who said he would gladly pay the fees to the state of Nevada because it is state and not federal land, but would not pay to the Feds, nor would he remove his cattle for the same reason.
    After masses of people from many parts of the country came to his aid, the local sheriff today announced the BLM was backing off, would let him graze his cattle.
    Maybe it does work! Who’d of thought any of us would have the courage to stand for our convictions, our property rights?!
    Interesting note, though, it was not until it was exposed through documents today that Harry Reid, in partnership with China (that would be Communist China), were seeking to take over the land for a billion dollar solar project! Now why doesn’t someone go after old Harry?

    • TeakWoodKite

      Criminal. DOJ not even a player….So Corrupt.

    • KenoshaMarge

      If I was the Bundy family I would be very concerned about a sneak attack as soon as the camera lights are off and the crowds have gone.

      • elizabethrc

        I think the only thing stopping that from happening is that now the public knows and just maybe the clowns in the Obama White House are becoming a tad frightened.
        It’s not nice to make mama public mad!
        I wonder how much investigating will be done about Harry Reid’s attempts to sell America to China!

        • DianaLC

          I already know that nothing will happen to the Alzheimer’s patient.

      • DianaLC

        Will they she IRS send a snarling attack dog named Lois after them?

        • KenoshaMarge

          Nah, she only attacks people on paper. She hasn’t the guts to attack face to face or out in the open. Sneaky, little, cowardly weasel.

    • Dissentispatriotic

      It’s not over. The USG will attack with stealth, hurting them through endless tax audits and levies. That will be more quiet and out of the public eye. That will be the sneak attack.

      • elizabethrc

        I’m not so sure. Once honey has dripped out of a jar it’s hard to get it all back in.
        The public are increasingly aware of the growing number of attacks on their rights and I think they’re on guard now.
        If the government were foolish enough to redress the issue, I doubt it will end well for either side, but I think this government is too cowardly to go much further with this.

  • DianaLC

    And now Fox is part of the MSM. I can’t watch them until they do report this. I become too angry when they decide a discussion of Colbert taking over Letterman’s spot is more important.
    I knew the Turkish government would be unhappy, and I fear the Turkish people rather than being angry about what their leaders did will be more angry about this Western journalist exposing it. I don’t get nor can I read Turkish news reports. I know that journalism in Turkey is more controlled than here–especially about the Armenian genocide, so perhaps this will also be one of the subjects about which no one can speak.
    Holding my breath as usual. It’s getting harder and harder to look people in their faces without saying something: “Hey do you really know who perpetrated the sarin gas attach in Syria? Do you know how the people who did the dirty deed got the wherewithal to do it?
    Larry, I am sure that you, knowing all this long before we did, are ready to burst. Hang in for the sake our sanity.

  • TeakWoodKite

    distribution of the part of the report concerning chemical weapons was severely curtailed on the orders of Denis McDonough, the White House chief of staff.

    Is this an action that he would take unilaterally or would not he need ValJar or Barry to instruct this be done?

  • Deapster

    US used to know how to play ball. Bush throws out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium post 9-11. A moment to savor now, more than ever:

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/bxR1tZ08FcI?rel=0

    And I used to hate GW Bush.

  • KenoshaMarge

    Thank God there are a few journalists like Sy Hersh. Most of the rest of them are a waste of oxygen – poseurs and schmoozers and press agents for Obama the Clown.
    There have always been the few journalists that allow their own personal ideology to get in the way of the truth. Disgusting lice who disgraced their profession. Now the “few” are those who actually do the job.

    This democracy cannot survive without a vibrant and honest media to stand between the public and the government. We’ve lost that. JournOList was just the tip of the iceberg.

  • Deapster

    Wacko global order conspiratists picked up the story. We need better company than this:

    From the net:

    ……..”Obama postured to invade Syria last year. Occupation of Syria accompanied by the presence of American medium range missile batteries would effectively prevent the Russians from moving ground troops into Syria. Further, Syria could serve as a jumping off point from which to invade Iran.

    The US was hoping that the invasion of Syria and the subsequent invasion of Iran would occur before the Russians and Chinese would have much of a chance to respond. Thus, the Petrodollar would be preserved. This explains the civil war raging inside of Syria.

    The CIA is supplying the Syrian rebels (i.e. al Qaeda) with weapons in an attempt to overthrow Syrian leader, Assad, in an attempt to take over the country. The inexperienced Obama was outmaneuvered by Putin and Syria was saved for the time being.

    As an aside, the association between the Obama administration and al-Qaeda, both in Libya and in Syria, had to be covered up prior to the 2012 election. This is why CIA arms broker, Ambassador Chris Stevens, had to be murdered in order to conceal the White House/al-Qaeda connection.

    Events rarely occur in isolation. The presstitutes of the corporate controlled media label people who connect these kinds of dots as conspiracy theorists, when in fact, they should be labeled as the truthful media”. ……..

  • Deapster

    You are not flogging this story. Insights into its veracity or exposure of its weak points remains very worthy discussion. Please keep it up. I look forward to learning more.

  • Deapster

    Just sent the link to AlJazeera with the explanation this was really two stories: (1) the original disclosures and the (2) failure of the entire spectrum of US media to even acknowledge this article.

    Only the obots played their hand on this story and tried to deflect it, after the fact. They admitted knew it was out there. How ironic is that.