The only thing worse than an Arm Chair Quarterback is a Wheelchair Warrior. And I’m not talking about US military personnel wounded in battle and left disabled. The preeminent Wheelchair Warrior is Charles Krauthammer. He was on Bret Baier’s Special Report tonight and illustrated with his diatribe on Ukraine why he is both foolish and dangerous. Here’s the full panel discussion:

Charles is not alone. He is in bed with McCain on this. He wants to send arms to the Ukrainians who oppose the Russians.

Then what? Let’s assume we send those weapons. No training? Just assault rifles, should fired rockets and bullets? He’s an idiot. If Russia goes in to Ukraine, and I believe they will, they are going with armored troops and tanks. The type of weapons Krauthammer is proposing are worthless against that kind of firepower. All we end up doing is reinforcing the Russian view that we are intent on challenging them militarily. This is more than a slippery slope, this is the kind of stupid decision that leads to escalation.

Are you ready to send your son or daughter to the Ukraine to fight Russians? I am not. I am not willing to send anyone’s son or daughter.

Fox and the Republican hardcore are busy trying to portray this move by Putin as the equivalent of Hitler invading Austria. Unlike Hitler, however, Putin is not the author of Mein Kampf and does not harbor a secret dream of conquering the world. His view is far more sane. He is defending his nation’s border.

Imagine how we would react if Mexico descended into civil war over the issue of whether or not to move closer to Moscow vice Washington. If we saw Russian intelligence officers in Mexico (like CIA Director Brennan, who spent this past weekend in Kiev) and had an intercept of Russia’s Foreign Minister talking to Russia’s Ambassador in Mexico about who Russia wanted in charge of running things, what do you think we would do?

Unlike the United States, who has had relatively secure borders in terms of not facing invading armies, Russia has hundreds of years of experience fending off foreign interference. The Crimea War was sparked by British and French meddling. And World War II devastated with the Soviet Union with more than 19 million soldiers and civilians. That kind of experience leaves a mark and creates a justifiable sense of paranoia.

Obama’s policy in this matter is an unmitigated disaster. He’s too busy posturing for a domestic political audience and not acting in the full national interest of the United States. The amateur hour was on full display last weekend by sending John Brennan, CIA Director to Kiev. WTF!!

CIA operations and activities are supposed to be clandestine. Out of sight and deniable. Sending Brennan has accomplished nothing other than inflame the situation and convince the Russians that we were behind the coup that ousted the elected President of Ukraine. It is one thing to covert arm and back an insurgency like we did in Afghanistan against the Soviets. It is an entirely different matter to try that kind of meddling on the border of Russia with Ukrainian forces.

The Russians and the Americans have a common cause in confronting radical Islam and quelling that threat. But no. What are we doing? Arming radical Islamists in Syria to overthrow a secular leader. Would you trust us if you were the Russians? They watched us try to fabricate a cause to attack Syria. A plot that might have gone forward had it not been for the refusal of the US military to do the deed. From the Russian perspective, the United States is surrendering its national security interests to the likes of the Saudis and the Turks. This does not inspire confidence.

As a veteran of the Cold War and proud of our efforts to bring down the Soviet Union, I now find myself in the odd position of supporting the Russians over my own Government. We do not need a war in the Ukraine or in Russia.

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Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.
  • Scst Sos

    It’s all Putin’s fault. Putin should not provide shelter to Snowden..

    Now Putin is paying for the price..

    Would Putin return Snowden to the USA? Sigh! Putin is in a dilemma..

    The problem is Putin is a tough guy with principle?

  • BannedAgain18

    back to your censorship… for a guy that tries to talk a good game, you sure seems scared of any comments that push back against your BS..


    “His view is far more sane. He is defending his nation’s border.

    I do not believe you truly believe this. I do not believe you are so naive. How about Putin wants to simply expand his nation’s borders? Take more strategic land in the south.

    Your Mexico comparison is far from the mark. Not even remotely the same as what you describe. It is more like if the U.S. unprovoked took over the Cancun peninsula and then stoked fake fears of American Mexicans that were at risk. There is absolutely no civil war in the Ukraine. There is no evidence that any Russian Ukrainians have been threatened, attacked or are at risk in any meaningful way. It is all Russian soldiers and agitators who are creating a faux crisis as justification for Russia to grab more land.

    Yes, it is odd that you support Putin and Russia. But, par for the course for you over the last couple of years, as you have been busy supporting many Dictators; Mubarak, Assad, etc.

  • Dave L.

    I am more afraid of this asshole administration that is running, (destroying), this country than I am of Putin and Russai !!

  • pumagsd

    Close encounters of the ___ kind?

  • Deapster

    Remember that sappy saying from the 1960’s: What happens if they gave a war, and nobody came?

    I think we are about to find out.


    Fox is not alone in framing the narrative on Ukraine as anti-Putin prelude to WWIII. All the networks parrot WH talking points. They rarely make an investment in reporting anything other than Obama point of view. Listen to John Batchelor for real geopolitical journalism.

  • DianaLC

    Obama’s foreign policy is taken from the “mean girls” strategies. I forget which of our semi[regulars said this, but Obama is definitely a girl, a mean girl.
    I am still holding my breath and hoping the world doesn’t erupt into chaos while he’s still in office. Please, please, please send us leader who has sense and real world experience, one who doesn’t look at a political theory play book for making decisions.

    • Deapster

      Reminded by a current events speaker who claimed the worst thing that happened in recent years to the US was winning the cold war.

      Meaning I assume, we now have no clear cut “enemy” to hate, and use as the simplistic basis for our foreign policy.

      Can the US psychically exist outside of a “war time” mentality?

      Shocking, if the answer were no. My God, will Obama himself become our next “war time President”.

      Is this an inherent liability of the awesome powers of this office, once tasted?

      • DianaLC

        I don’t know about the pundits and talking heads. I was just thinking about Obama when I made the “mean girls” comment.
        This is a man who can’t tell the truth to save his life. He, like a queen mean girl, keeps his lackeys and followers confused as they try to keep on his good side. Anyone dealing with a mean girl knows that alliances are made and broken at the mean girl’s whim, especially if she feels someone has threatened her status as queen. An all out war is not her style. It’s sneaky, underhanded and changeable–depending only on the next days’ events.
        It’s all about her/him.
        I don’t worry about him wanting to get us into a war. I do worry about someone else finally just coming after us because of him.
        Then, you’re right. Obama as CIC would be a disaster in that situation.

  • S7teen70six
  • Deapster

    4/16/14: State Dept update and commentary about Ukraine.

    The Department of State warns U.S. citizens to defer all non-essential travel to Ukraine. In addition, the Department of State warns U.S. citizens to defer all travel to several regions of Ukraine, including the Crimean Peninsula and eastern regions of Kharkiv, Donetsk, and Lugansk due to the presence of Russian military forces in the Crimean Peninsula and on the eastern border of Ukraine.

    This supersedes the Travel Warning for Ukraine dated March 21 to provide updated information on the situation in the Crimean Peninsula and the eastern regions of Ukraine.

    Russian forces have occupied the Crimean Peninsula in support of the Russian Federation¿s claim of Crimean annexation and these forces are likely to continue to take further actions in the Crimean Peninsula consistent with its claim.

    The United States and Ukraine do not recognize this claimed annexation. The Russian Federation has positioned military forces along the border of eastern Ukraine while armed militants in several eastern Ukrainian cities have staged demonstrations, seized government buildings, and attacked police and pro-Ukrainian counter-demonstrators.

    The situation in Ukraine is unpredictable and could change quickly. U.S. citizens throughout Ukraine should avoid large crowds and be prepared to remain indoors for extended periods of time should clashes occur in their vicinity.

    The Department of State urges U.S. citizens who travel to or reside in Ukraine to evaluate carefully the risks posed to their personal safety, particularly in the Crimean Peninsula and the eastern regions of Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkiv.

    While the transition to a new government has been largely peaceful in most parts of Ukraine, in several eastern Ukrainian cities armed militants, including personnel who appear to be members of the Russian military, have seized government buildings, and attacked police.

    There have been staged demonstrations in eastern Ukraine, and attacks on pro-Ukrainian counter-demonstrators ¿ some of these clashes have resulted in injuries and deaths.

    Additionally, groups advocating closer ties to Russia have taken on a more strident anti-American tone, especially in Crimea, where some U.S. citizens have reported being detained and questioned by armed men. U.S. citizens who choose to remain in areas where there are pro-Russian demonstrations should maintain a low profile and avoid large crowds and gatherings.

    Peace Corps Volunteers departed Ukraine on February 25, and remain out of the country at this time. U.S. Embassy Kyiv¿s Consular Section is open for all public services; however, the Embassy¿s ability to respond to emergencies involving U.S. citizens outside of Kyiv, especially in southern and eastern Ukraine, is extremely limited.

    Ground transportation may be disrupted throughout the country. Drivers, especially in the Crimean Peninsula, may encounter roadblocks that restrict access on certain roads. Commercial air travel out of the Crimean Peninsula is currently limited to travel to and from the Russian Federation. Travelers should check with their airlines for possible flight delays or cancellations prior to travel to or from the Crimean Peninsula and eastern Ukraine as flights could be delayed or cancelled with little or no notice.

    On February 22, following three months of large protests and violent clashes, former President Yanukovych departed Kyiv.

    The Ukrainian Parliament established an interim government on February 27. Russia has conducted an illegal military intervention in the Crimean Peninsula and has been taking steps to acquire territory from Ukraine through the illegal use of force.

    On March 18, the Russian government recognized Crimea as independent and has since declared Crimea as part of the Russian Federation. On March 20, Russia¿s lower Parliament House, known as the State Duma, voted in support of Russia¿s illegal attempt to make Crimea a part of Russia.

    • FloridaFI

      This is just sad.

      There is nothing illegal about local citizens voting to change who they want their government to be.

      That is the essence of democracy.

  • Larchmonter445

    Establishment “voices” have gotten the last 7-8 wars wrong, starting with Korea, Vietnam, Central America, Kuwait-Iraq, IraqII, and Afghanistan, Libya and Syria.
    The only war we got right was against Taliban for the first 6 weeks or so when we killed 15,000 of them. It was run by the CIA with Air Force bombings. We lost one CIA officer. We killed the enemy. Very little collateral damage.

    After that, it is more catastrophe.

    We can’t even identify our real enemies. Putin and Xi are not the enemy. AQ and the Islamic jihadists are our enemy.

  • Vorlath –

    “Fox and the Republican hardcore are busy trying to portray this move by Putin as the equivalent of Hitler invading Austria.”

    That’s backwards. It’s the Dems that are saying this. They are doing this to say that Putin cannot be negotiated with. That’s he’s crazy and no one could have expected this and that’s why Obama was caught flat footed. Of course, both Romney and Palin predicted this. Palin actually predicted the invasion.

    • Larry Johnson

      Are you watching Fox and CNN?

    • Deapster

      Dems admitting Obama was caught flat-footed?

    • Popsmoke

      The DEMs? ONLY? Really? McCain and crew are DEMs? Both Romney and Palin are idiots. They predicted squat and take their talking points from the Neocons….


    Now the DC bunch are saying that Afghanistan will not be able to govern on it’s own if we leave. OK how many years and how much money will it take for them to be able to do so? seem to be very slow learners, do you think if we cut off the money supply they will learn more quickly? People say never enable an alcoholic, same principle should apply with countries.
    If we get involved with the Ukraine, how many years and how much money will it take for them to stand on their own?

    • Deapster

      I think Karzi will do alright, as long as his visa to Switzerland stays valid.

  • foxyladi14

    I agree Larry We should stay out of this mess.

  • ME

    Larry, it may not be rational or reasonable, but I think I understand all these hawks. We’re simply rather desperate to have President Obama go meddle in foreign affairs rather than domestic ones. Seriously, this country is reaching the breaking point. Many people sense we are sitting on the edge of a precipice. Having all these clowns focus on some other country for a while is a bit like a last ditch effort to save ourselves.

    • Deapster

      You may be right, but we all have to hope you are wrong. NO, not another war. Not even threat of war. This is insane. State Dept just sent out travelers warning update for Ukraine. Insane.

      • FloridaFI


        You mean the STEP program won’t stay with me next week during my vacation in Donetsk?

        I just got back from Hungary.

        Hungarians fear Obama much, much more than they fear Putin.

  • KlugerRD

    “The Crimea War was sparked by British and French meddling.”

    Exactly right. This began as an economic conflict between the EU who were trying attract the Ukraine into the EU and Russia who has extremely vital interests in the Ukraine – especially their vast network of natural gas pipelines coming from Russia.

    The EU incited the uprising which destabilize Ukraine and place their relationship with Russia at risk.

    The EU escalated this into a NATO conflict intentionally in order to draw in the United States who have ZERO national security interests in this conflict previously.

    All Putin ever wanted from the outset was for Ukraine to remain non-aligned and non-belligerent toward Russia.

    Had Obama stayed out of this instead of inflaming the situation it might be resolved by now. If Obama sent a capable diplomatic emissary to quietly negotiate with Putin, this would have also been resolved by now.`

  • Deapster


    Inside the White House, Biden mouths off, ValJar gets furious, media team demands soft-lighting joint interview with Meeshell, and Obama stays on someone else’s scrip to reveal “his evolution” on gay marriage.

    Fraud city.

  • Fred82

    Why don’t we sell them the weapons and aid?

    The Russians have much less of a leg to stand on when it comes to us selling the aid than handing out. Additionally, the sale of weapons and aid could actually make the US money and might, just might actually put a few people back to work.

    Not so sure on this idea though and could use some input.

    • Deapster

      We do sell weapons in exchange for our alleged “foreign aid”. That aid comes with strings attached that demands it is used to purchase arms etc from favored US contractors. This is the life-blood of the US military industrial complex – US “foreign aid”.

      • Fred82

        Why don’t we just skip the aid and sell the weapons?

        It’s not like the aid accomplishes much in many cases and the US is in no position to be offering handouts to foreigners.

    • chrissy

      Small arms fire does nothing against Russian tanks. Better to throw the MREs at them. Sending military advisors would be a provocation.

    • KlugerRD

      Another question would be why should we be the ones providing arms. Why not France and the UK who do have an interest in this?

      • Fred82

        I agree with that, particularly if it involves giving arms.

        On the other hand, if we sold arms the right way, we could get some cash out of the deal and might even create a handful of new jobs.

  • wyntre

    Well-said, LJ.

    I especially liked your analogy of the U.S. and Mexico. I have been racking my brains trying to come up with an equivocal scenario to that between Ukraine and Russia without success!

    • chrissy

      Because 15 million illegals who marched across our southern border haven’t caused any problems in the USA.

      • Deapster

        Snark deteched, or else you don’t live in a border state.

        • chrissy

          It was snark. And you don’t have to live in a border state.

          • Deapster

            How are “English learners” affecting the quality of your public schools?

            • chrissy

              Wouldn’t it be swell if they learned English.

              • Deapster

                Most kids up to a certain age learn easily by immersion, from my own experience having lived abroad.

                There has to be an intentional design to have so many English non-proficient students still enter K-12 in the US.

                English language media is all around them, even if their own parents are illiterate in their native tongues.

            • DianaLC

              The ones who really do want to learn English often give longtime American kids a run for their money. I’m thinking of the Asian minorities, and I even had some Russian kids in the schools in which I taught.
              I am going to be called a racist on this, but it was always some of the Mexican kids–not the ones from Central American countries other than Mexico or from other South American countries or from Puerto Rico–who simply chose not to learn. That was because their loyalties were first and foremost to Mexico.

      • pumagsd
        There are good families coming across the border and then there are the other ones. It is a very difficult problem. Secure the border.
        When I was a child in NC my grandparents took me to see a boat that a family used to cross the Atlantic to the USA from Estonia. The Estonian family did work on my family shrimp boat. The Russian question also has many sides…The lack of a US president who is a real leader is to much to blame as any thing else.
        Oh this is the USA/Mexican border picture I took this week.

      • KenoshaMarge

        Seriously? Some of them have raped – murdered and a few of the drunken ones have killed by motor vehicle. No problems? Maybe not for you but they’ve caused plenty for others.

  • Deapster

    Our recent visit to this area- the former Soviet Black Sea states (Romania, Bulgaria, Ukraine) indicated all were in grave transition problems – massive corruption, lack of trust of the governed, crony over-development, street crime, abandoned commercial buildings making up too large of the downtown areas, and outward migration leaving them with a declining population bases with primarily the loss of their young people.

    These lands all show great potential in natural resources, trade routes along the Danube connecting to overland Asia, and have long been a rich agricultural resource in an increasingly hungry world.

    But they are all are heading in the wrong direction right now, and lost several generations who knew and understood the rigors of self-government, private property ownership and non-criminal entrepreneureal energy.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Your first paragraph sounded as if you were describing Detroit or some other large liberal city.

      • Deapster

        Breaks my heart to see those once beautiful homes getting torn down. How can we have “homelessness” anywhere in America and tear down perfectly good homes in Detroit?

      • foxyladi14

        Yes just like that.

  • HARP2

    The problem started when Putin watched obama draw down on the missile defense in Europe with no strings attached.

    • KenoshaMarge

      Once you know someone doesn’t know what the hell they’re doing it is hard to respect them, let alone fear them. No one fears Obama except the GOP.

      • Vorlath –

        The GOP only fears Obama for what he will destroy next at home.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Yeah – like them. The GOP cringes everytime Obama tells another lie about them and what they stand for or what they support. The establishment branch of the GOP is no better than the Dems – or little better.
          With the liberal media for liberal citizens covering for the left 24/7 the public has no idea what it happening in this country and the 47% could care less so long as their freebies keep coming in. (As always not everyone is a freeloader and not EVERY journalist is a member of JournOlist. Just most.)

  • S7teen70six

    There are a lot of people that would never dream of fighting themselves who drool at the prospect of another armed conflict someone else fights, for their pride and ego. Of course their wheelchairs are well armed with barbs and threats. But no stomping of feet for obvious reasons. That is why others must march upon their orders.

    There are very few people in government or in the media that haven’t bought into this chest thumping we must stop Russia mania. Sending the Director of the CIA to Kiev is sending the wrong message to Putin. It is foolish and brazen. Typical posturing by this Administration. Like playing with matches on the shore of a gasoline lake.

    I do not support Putin. I do respect him. And I have had an uneasy feeling about this “coup” in Ukraine from the start.

    The complicity of the media to spout government talking points without having ever, even once, investigated a damned thing on its own is the root of the problem. A somnambulant populous is being spoon fed lies as part of its government provided free daily sustenance. Made into slaves without their even knowing they had chains on.

  • KenoshaMarge

    It seems that Krauthammer, like McCain, wants the United States to fight everyone’s battles everywhere in the world all the time. And often, frequently, without being quite sure who’s side we should be on. Look at McCain’s posturing in Syria and wanting to arm people who are connected to Al Quaida for a prime example.

    I doubt any of us who think that Putin and Russia have a right to protect their borders are under any illusions about their character or integrity. But then we see the same lack here at home in our own government.

    I would feel the world a safer place if I thought Obama was just a wuss. He is instead an arrogant POS who thinks his ideology is the answer to everything. The applause he receives from his idol worshipping supporters here at home, especially the liberal media for liberal citizens only encourages him in his belief that he is always the smartest one in the room. He isn’t and it shows. But neither are his ass-kissing pals and that also shows.

  • chrissy

    Since I am a wheelchair conservative I doubt your hypothesis about Putin protecting his borders. I don’t trust the Russian gov’t anymore than I trust the US government under Obama. Painting Putin with the Larry Johnson good guy RED pencil is so wrong on so many levels.
    Putin knows the US is impotent. He will march into Ukraine creating unrest (just like he is doing now) and it won’t be long until we see him in Kiev. Putin laughs at diplomacy unless it is to help him get what he wants.
    Just what do you propose to do when he decides to march into a NATO country? Send Kerry? He did so well as a Senator and his many meetings with Assad. He is as worthless as a Sec of State as he was a Senator. And NATO is as impotent as Obama.
    I’ve said it and I will say it again. This all started with Obama’s bombing of Libya. It should have never happened. I lay the blame at the WH. They created this awful mess.
    I guess we’ll just send some more MREs. (eye roll)

    • jbjd

      You wrote, “And NATO is as impotent as Obama.” And therein lies the best route (at this point) to check Russian expansion. Persuade the other NATO members closer to the action that, Russian expansion will, at some point, target them, not us (US). Then, offer them whatever assistance we can, short of troops on the ground. Because, geographically speaking, NATO troops over there are already on the ground.

      • chrissy

        Assistance? Like what KFC instead of MREs? This admin is so worried about provocation they send feckless, not to mention worthless, males like Kerry and Brennan. Oh and Biden.
        “Because geographically speaking”…gee that congers up visions of Bosnia.

        • jbjd

          I am saying, I agree in part on the premise of LJ’s article, in which he opposes CK’s advice that ‘military’ intervention into the situation in Ukraine could be justified as a way to prevent further incursions into NATO states. Because Ukraine is not a NATO state. However, assuming an ulterior motive is to invade any NATO state, displaying the cost of such move can be accomplished without direct US intervention, albeit with US help.

    • Larry Johnson

      I am not saying that Putin is a “good” guy. But neither is he Satan or Hitler. If Putin attacks a NATO country, unprovoked, then we are looking at a nuclear war. But Ukraine is not a NATO country. However, if this is a battle you want to enter just be sure to sign up your kids and grandkids. At that point, you’re no longer a Wheelchair Warrior. You’ll have “skin in the game.”

      • chrissy

        I rank Putin right up there with Obama in the “Satan’s minions” group. I’m not saying to put boots on the ground at least not military boots. I do think we should have strong effective advisors in Kiev. Unlikely there are any in this admin. My sons already served in the military. I do have “skin in the game”, five generations of it. And I REALLY AM in a wheelchair. I’ll spare you my “pick on people in wheelchairs” rant.
        Ukraine’s neighbors are teetering right now on the brink of failure. They would have little defense against a ruthless bastard like Putin. A strong response is needed now. It won’t come from this admin.

        • PoliticalWaif

          chrissy, the Ukrainians are, and have always been, divided in their support of Russia vs the west. Some find it hard to believe that internal state politics is at play, and it’s not secret Russian troops seeking coups.

          This did not start with Libya, and has nothing to do with it. It started when Yanukovyck and Ukraine were trying to strike trade deals with the EU/EC over the past couple of years. It fell apart when Barraso/EC flat out told Yanukovych Feb 2013 that Ukraine could not be a member of EU and the CU. That they had to choose between the west and Russia for trade. Ukraine/Russian trade is more prolific, and vital than trade with the west. Ukrainians would have preferred both, but the EU/EC would not allow that, and refused proposed three party talks that Russia requested by fall/Nov of 2013.

          A poster above, KlugerRD, is correct. The Ukraininan chaos is a product of EU/EC inflexibe intervention, and their push of EU/NATO power to Russia’s borders. Has nothing to do with liking or not liking Putin. Simply an accurate call of the trade negotiations and crazy int’l trade rules imposed on nation states by the EU.

          And just to be clear, because this is the responsibility of the EU/EC, this would have happened no matter who was occupying the WH.

          • S7teen70six

            I disagree with one point. Our hands are not clean in this mess. We have been working with the EU to bring this about to the tune of 5 billion dollars. So that wascally wabbit in the WH is hardly blameless.

            • foxyladi14


            • PoliticalWaif

              Actually, I’m not sure we are in disagreement, S7teen70six. I did not eliminate US culpability. What I said was that this would have come to pass no matter who was in the WH.

              There is no doubt that the US works closely with the EU agenda. But then, I do not think a GOP POTUS would have strayed far from the side of the EU in this either. The US was a supporting cast member during the trade negotiations. The aftermath, (and perhaps fomenting violence in protests)? Unfortunately, the western media, and every one who still sees “commies under every bed”, has piled on.

  • buckeyeman

    You know, Krauthammer sometimes has intelligent insights, but here he’s just nuts, along with the rest of the neocon gang. Are they in some kind of King of Stupidity competition with the O administration?

    Where Brennan goes, trouble is sure to follow. Now that blood has been spilled in eastern Ukraine, I think it’s just a matter of time ( a short time ) before Russia enters Ukraine. Perhaps this is the US plan? How do they expect this to play out? As well as their initial plan played out?

    Let’s see, the US has Obama, Kerry, Brennan, and Victoria ‘Fuck the EU’ Nuland. Russia has Putin, Medvedev, and Lavrov. Who inspires confidence?

  • Deapster

    The Russians are not the Soviets. We were fighting the spread of an ideology during the Cold War.

    The Russians today are capitalist nationalists, ergo perfectly fine people to call colleagues in the band of fungible “nations” scattered around this globe. Our common ties with Russian art, music and literature run deep. Those are the Russians I support.

    Not sure what the vanity is about fixing national borders in concrete, which have always shifted significantly over the eons.

    Look at our own 100% porous border now with Mexico and the SW US. Why don’t we send troops there to fight off the Mexican nationals incursions across our borders?

  • Popsmoke

    Its getting very dangerous out there….

    • foxyladi14

      Good to see you Pop.

      • Popsmoke

        Thank you…


    McCain seems to want to fight something every time there is a flare up in the world. this may sound cruel but it is like he wants to make up for the time he was a POW and could not fight the enemy at that time. I respect the man for his service, but really wish he was not so anxious to get other people’s kids in a war

    • Popsmoke

      Howya doing Helen?

      • HELENK2

        trying to understand how to use chrome and using every word I learned on the railroad.

        how are you feeling?

        • Deapster

          I ditched Chrome and went back to Google basic. They keep asking me to upgrade and I keep telling them no. I don’t envy you right now. You are missed. Come back.

          • wyntre

            I switched to Opera but I can’t get their email service operating.

        • KenoshaMarge

          Keep at it Helen – my money’s on you!

        • Popsmoke

          Here is how you learn Chrome….Delete….:-) I am taking it one day at a time.. today is fairly good day…rough morning, afternoon was a little better and tonight? Well there is tomorrow to look forward too…

    • Popsmoke

      If the Admirals were alive, Junior would be getting his butts kicked….