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Carney’s New Benghazi Lie Does Not Hold Water

Jay Carney, spinning like a dreidel on crack, lamely insisted today that the email from Ben Rhodes was not about Benghazi but about the Middle East in general. The Rhodes email was released at 8:09 PM on 14 September. The Subject? “RE: PREP CALL WITH SUSAN: SATURDAY 4:00 pm ET”

One of the key “GOALS” of the prep for Susan Rice was:

To underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy.

Yet, p. 2 of the email offers this Q&A suggestion:

Q: What’s your response to the Independent story that says we have intelligence 48 hours in advance of the Bengahzi attack that was ignored? Was this an intelligence failure?

We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent. The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US Consulate and subsequently its annex.

Hmmm, the protests in Cairo spawned the “demonstrations” in Benghazi.

Listen to Carney:

Carney can’t keep his lies straight.

First, the CIA talking points said nothing about the video. Despite Mike Morell’s extensive editing to water down the talking points and delink the attacks from Al Qaeda, he adhered to the line that the “demonstrations in Benghazi” were inspired by protests in Cairo.

It is essential to note that Morell changed the CIA points to make them consistent with the guidance provided by Ben Rhodes.

Second, there was a SVTS (i.e., a Secure Video Teleconference) the next morning, the 15th of September, at 8:00 am to be precise. The cables released by Judicial Watch show without dispute that this was a close hold meeting. We know that the CIA Deputy Director Morell was on the conference. Also Dennis McDonough and Jacob “Jake” Sullivan, VP Biden’s National Security Advisor. We do not know who else was on the call. But the subject of the “CLOSE HOLD” teleconference was, “MOVIE PROTESTS/VIOLENCE.” What was discussed? Who else participated?

There was violence in only one country–Libya. As I demonstrated conclusively in my article yesterday (click here), Morell removed any reference to Islamists but, for some reason, failed to make any case that the video was the motivating factor.

Yet, Susan Rice insists that the “intelligence” community insisted the video was the motivation and that became the story line from Hillary and Barack.

This story ain’t going away. More to come. The cover up is coming unglued.

  • S7teen70six

    Totally OT: The latest Memorandum from VIPS

    Needed: Obama-Putin Summit on Ukraine

    I wholeheartedly agree. It’s time to bring the adults back into the room.

    • Deapster

      Adutls – Plural?

      Obama is going to be a little off-balance for the next few months. He won’t be good for anything, any time or in any room.

  • Valentine Bonnaire

    Reason Magazine has an interview up in youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM1_wCoYk-o thanks for mentioning her name. Important, new laws about the press — a new law? RE CIA being able to talk to reporters. CBS has Morell at helm. What will be allowed to run or not? As stories?

    • S7teen70six

      Thank you for posting this important video. Attkisson is one of the few remaining journalists. I love what she has to say. SharylAttkisson.com.

      • Deapster

        She is a very effective and intelligent spokesperson – glad to be on her side.

      • Valentine Bonnaire

        I have a couple other news stories that relate to this? Doing kind of investigative stream, and maybe start blogging again — but I want Larry/CIA to get this info? So I hope it doesn’t look funny if I post some links. Know I mean well. This is so super scary to me? The last couple days — our Press. CBS. on freepress.net you can see how “large” their reach is? If news is being shaped by the guy who edited that memo? There is collusion. Ethics questions.I know that Larry could pass to right people.

        • Valentine Bonnaire

          Collusion between Morell/Panetta/Clinton Beacon Global Strategies. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/31/cia-ignored-station-chief-in-libya-when-creating-t/?page=all Morell/CBS

          • Valentine Bonnaire

            There is one more. This company called CSIS and who runs and funds it? But this concept particularly? I wanted to cry, because I think this is what happened to Christopher Stevens. And I just can’t even figure out where to put that. There is something called http://justsecurity.org/2013/10/07/benghazi-oversight-death-expeditionary-diplomacy/ I have never seen anything like this, or that company. “Expeditionary Diplomacy” I guess I am really old but coming up as a JFK kid (values) I thought we had embassies all over the world? Diplomacy, Foreign Policy. This needs a good looking into in my opinion. I will never forget those boys who gave their lives. Nor what happened. Expeditionary Diplomacy?

            • Retired_from_SPOnaj

              What is now being termed “Expeditionary diplomacy” (“expeditionary” being the USG value add buzzword du jour) has been conducted by CIA since its founding. CIA operations officers are trained in how to do it securely, but it is always a risky business. I did it myself in Beirut in 1983-1985 while the Foreign Service officers, who were not properly trained in how to do it, were restricted to the Embassy compound. Meanwhile, we met with Hezbollah and other unpleasant actors. At one point, I was taken hostage temporarily during these activities, but was able to talk my way out of it.
              There is a common misconception that these types of activities can be undertaken by just about anyone without adequate training or planning. It would appear that the Benghazi fiasco has disabused some with their eyes and ears open of that fallacy.

              • Valentine Bonnaire

                Retired… wow. I didn’t realize Hez was around back then? Only learned that word post orig 9/11. Retired, that was a new concept to me? I thought we had foreign embassies all over the world and diplomats. I have believed this all my life? And maybe I have been wrong to think that? To me there was so much glamour and intrigue to these things? Diplomats in foreign countries and so forth. This is what makes Benghazi so hard for me? A Diplomat. His whole life working toward that? Because of JFK once upon a time. He was Peace Corps. How could they? How could they?

                • Retired_from_SPOnaj

                  Well, Val, welcome to the real world, where things are not always as they seem to the uninitiated. Hezbollah was in its early founding stages in the mid 1980s and interested in talking to the USG on a confidential basis. Since this has to be done securely in a very dangerous environment, the CIA was chosen to oblige. Those days ended when the USG decided that the benefits of talking to them were outweighed by the need to oppose their terrorist proclivities. You know the rest of the history.

                  • Valentine Bonnaire

                    It makes a really big difference to me that you and Larry both understand what went wrong. And now that you said this? I hope Gowdy throws the book at them. There is something so wrong, so wrong in the now. In my tiny way, I can only contribute from the two fields I have known. The Press, and Jungian/Depth Psychology. Not worth much anymore but I mean well. If this doesn’t get stopped, what is next? I guess we look like Nigeria. Or Ukraine. Or? I can’t imagine. Thanks Retired. “Congressional Oversight” — hmmm. The root right there I guess. Hugs.

                    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

                      On a lighter note, did you ever see the episode of the TV series “Frasier” where psychiatrist Niles decides to advertise? He was a Jungian. The advertisement was printed with a slight typo. It read, “Individual and couples sex therapy. Hung specialist.” Cheers!

                    • Valentine Bonnaire

                      hahahahaha! You know, thanks for being CIA oldschool. I mean that.

                  • Valentine Bonnaire

                    Retired. One more thing. I don’t think it was an accident that that happened. That’s the hard part. I would have seen empathy. I did not.

    • Deapster

      Excellent – 18 minutes well spent. Thanks for this link.

      Irony is the internet allows one to break through corporate/gov’t interest blockages in a key stroke, as long as the internet remains free.

      The whole concept of “media” and Fourth Estate watchdog as critical to our form of government — or the public’s right/need to know who is doing what in our name — is undergoing such a fundamental revolution right now.

      Second irony is we now have more information at our fingertips, at the same time it appears fewer people care about having it.

      I don’t know what voter turn out is in your area, but it is down to the high 30′s in ours. Is it better to have fewer high-information voters, or higher numbers of low-information voters – another fundamental question. (Yeah, who decides that anyway)

      The whole Benghazi incident, before, during and after will crystallize many these newly competing media information forces that are now well part of the new digital revolution – let the hearings begin.

  • HELENK2
    • Valentine Bonnaire

      Chilling.

  • HELENK2

    http://im41.com/archives/50371#sthash.2xjkNn97.dpbs

    panic as Benghazi comes home to roost

    • Deapster

      This is the gut feeling I sense most American also share:

      “…….I have news for them; they can scream and stomp their feet all they want.

      A sitting president lying to the American people to win an election, and ……..

      the Secretary of State standing by the caskets of our dead, and lying to their families to save her sorry hide is A BIG F#CKING DEAL! ……”

      - See more at: http://im41.com/archives/50371#sthash.2xjkNn97.9WutxskK.dpuf

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  • Deapster

    How did the White House know about the existence of this anti-Islam video so quickly to allow arresting the film maker by Sept 15?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/15/police-hold-anti-islamic-film-maker?guni=Article:in%20body%20link

    • Deapster

      Reasonable to now ask who paid to have this video made, and what was the motivation for its eventual distribution.

  • HELENK2
  • Deapster

    Did this anti-Islam video even inflame the riots in Egypt – not according to this contemporaneous report written in Oct 2012:

    http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/10/did-the-state-department-intentionally-inflame-muslims/

  • HELENK2
    • Deapster

      It is not a scandal. It goes well beyond being a scandal. It is a betrayal of the Office of the President of the United States of America.

      Obama misused his office and his oath for his own personal gain. That is not a scandal. That is treason.

  • HELENK2

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/pelosi-whatever-his-name-issa

    just the fact that the dems have axis sally pelosi and horrible harry ried in important jobs in congress show just what contempt they have for the government and the people of this country

    • Deapster

      Shows the power of the unions to control the votes of too many people in this country.

      The only agenda the Democrats have is handing out more tax-funded goodies to ensure their own re-election, while they enjoy the perks of the office without doing the real work this country needs.

      This is why America has stagnated.

  • HELENK2
  • Deapster
  • HELENK2
    • Deapster

      This is how America sees it as well – every excuse and next blame only lowers the public view of Democrats.

      The more they flail, the more they fail. The Dems are a caricature of themselves now as the loser party.

    • Retired_from_SPOnaj

      Good questions. Who is the next world leader, or robot, that Obama is scheduled to bow to?

  • HELENK2

    http://americanthinker.com/blog/2014/05/new_dem_benghazi_strategy_floated_boycott_select_committee.html

    new Benghazi strategy boycott select committee

    if they do it , the just advertise their indifference to 4 dead men that were fighting for their country. their indifference to the truth and that politics is their only goal. it will show the public the truth about the new democratic party. it will just reinforce what we already know about them

    • Deapster

      Proposed by Calif Rep Adam Schiff whose district voted 76% for Obama in 2008:

      “….California’s 28th congressional district is a congressional district in the U.S. state of California, in Los Angeles County. The district is currently represented by Democrat Adam Schiff.

      The district includes Burbank, Glendale, the northern Los Angeles suburbs, West Hollywood as well as parts of central Los Angeles, including the affluent areas of Los Feliz, and Silver Lake. …”

    • S7teen70six

      Considering that the Democrats have been boycotting the Benghazi investigation from the start it should come as no surprise that they doubled down in their diversion.

  • Deapster
  • Deapster

    Sarah Palin: You lied again, Team Obama

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/04/Palin-to-Obama-Admin-You-Lied-Again-on-Benghazi

    This woman hits the bullseye with the fewest words possible ….. again.

  • HARP2

    Most democrats don’t realize that withholding subpoenaed evidence is a criminal offense.

    • foxyladi14

      Jail time I love it.

  • HARP2

    Watergate Select Committee had 4 democrats and 3 republicans.

    Gowdy should leave 3 empty chairs at the meetings.

    • S7teen70six

      One empty chair speaks volumes about Benghazi.

  • S7teen70six

    How long until Obama sends the BLM to Ukraine?

  • S7teen70six

    So patently obvious that This Week was chosen to present the administration propaganda that Benghazi was so 2 years ago dude. The Raddatz piece could easily have been produced by OFA.

  • piattq

    Apparently dem response is not to participate on select committee. Biggest problem for repubs is overcoming lib media nothing here story and public apathy.

    • DianaLC

      Does the fact that it’s a select committee mean it HAS to be bipartisan? The Dems foisted Obamacare on us without ANY Republican vote. Maybe it doesn’t matter if only the Republicans participate. When the truth come out for all to see, it will be worth it–and eventually the public WILL wake up and see what happened.

      • Deapster

        It will be high theater if the US gets to look at empty chairs …. again, representing the Obama administration.

        • foxyladi14

          empty suit empty chair.

    • Deapster

      Empty chairs is certainly the signature of the Obama administration.

      Except this time it will be the Democrats instead of Clint Eastwood doing the empty chair performance art piece.

      Obama long famous for merely voting “present” on key issues now acts as a role model for his fellow Democrats.

      Though Obama being AWOL between 16:00 and 22:00 on 9/11/12 is a new twist in his chronic responsibility-evasion habits.

      Obama is not even voting “present” during those missing hours. He just plumb disappeared.

  • Deapster

    Redstate blog claims HRC issued a 10PM statement (text included) introducing the video defense which includes a working hyperlink to some strange website purporting to also have a copy of this statement:

    http://www.redstate.com/2014/04/30/hillary-clinton-source-benghazi-video-lie/

    Bogus?

    • Deapster

      Washington Examiner also posts HRCs 10PM public statement blaming the video:

      http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-issue-with-benghazi-who-told-hillary-clinton-to-blame-the-video/article/2547937

      Bogus?

      • jbjd

        I know HRC made a comment on the night of 9/11/12; and, broken links aside, I have established, it hit the net not “about 10:00 PM,” per FactCheck; but precisely at 10:32. Still, she never blamed anything on a “video.” FactCheck only said she did, months later, when they posted the timeline.

        I just did my son’s laundry. Now, I am going to fold clothes, take a shower, and go to bed. The post will be up by noon.

      • wyntre

        no.

    • wyntre

      Here’s the relevant portion of HRC’s September 11, 2012 SD statement, issued at 10:07 pm. While she doesn’t actually use the word “video,” she does say “inflammatory material posted on the internet.”

      “Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet [my emphasis]. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”

      • Deapster

        I did use the short-hand “video” as a substitute for HRC’s descriptive wording “inflammatory material posted on the internet” because the actual named video and its producer quickly became part of the operational story put out by Obama.

        Following how “inflammatory material posted on the internet” morphed into this specific video will be interesting, but the far more interesting trail is identifying who those “some people” were that started this “inflammatory materiel” as the official excuse.

        NB: “some people”
        NB: “inflammatory material posted on the internet”

        Most important of all however remains the content of the circa 10PM phone call between BHO and HRC.

        BHO is often the author of the phrase “some people” when he sets up his ubiquitous straw dogs and red-herring issues. Woof.

        Was this circa 10PM phone call a conference call including Valerie Jarrett as well as BHO and HRC?

        • deehra

          If Valjar isn’t running the country, what is the rationale for her having a full Secret Service contingent ?

          • Deapster

            Excellent question.

            And what was that ruse to post only happy pictures of her and the talking points Obama had circulated to show her in only positive terms?

            Belies the need to require full security detail for the beloved Ms Twinkle Toes.

    • deehra

      Then there is the issue of throwing the filmmaker in jail for months. The grand experiment called the USA is now officially over.

      • Deapster

        Oh, but jailed only on other charges that remarkably were discovered at exactly the same time he was fingered by Obama as the source of the “inflammatory internet material”.

        Justice is blind, remember? On the backs of turtles, it moves only slowly and surely.

        • doc99

          Alan Dershowitz, Please Call Your Office.

  • Deapster

    Conservative talk show host Mark Levin lays out some excellent, blunt and direct advice how to handle the Benghazi select committee: (12 min)

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/05/03/Mark-Levin-Lays-Out-the-Idea-Way-to-Handle-Select-Committee-on-Benghazi

  • HELENK2

    the fact that the democrats in DC have no problem that 4 men serving their country died and the guy they selected to put in office failed to do his duty just amazes me. When did it get to the point that politics was the be all and end all. No loyalty to the country, no sense of decency, no shame. today’s democratic party is a far cry from the democratic party of JFK and the one that I did believe in for many years. now it has no value and is not worth a bucket of warm spit

  • Deapster

    Like Watergate, did calculated lies and a cover-up about Benghazi coming from the White House affect an election?

    ROMNEY: “I think (it’s) interesting the president just said something which — which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror,” said Gov. Romney.

    OBAMA: “That’s what I said,” the president responded.

    ROMNEY: “You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?”

    OBAMA: “Please proceed, governor.”

    ROMNEY: “I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.”

    OBAMA: “Get the transcript.”

    CROWLEY: “It — it — it — he did in fact, sir,” Crowley said, offering the president what looked to be a little debate assistance.

    OBAMA: “Can you say that a little louder, Candy?” the president asked confidently.

    CROWLEY: “He — he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that,” Crowley said.

  • HELENK2

    Judge Jeanne is on fire. when the video becomes available it is a must see

  • Deapster

    Fact: HRC first mentions the video defense for the Benghazi attack in public at 10PM (22:00) the night the event is happening.

    Splitting hairs days later about this ill-founded excuse is not the primary issue.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/05/03/Carney-Answer-Moves-Timeline-White-House-Ignored-CIA-Before-Susan-Rices-Sunday-Show-Video-Spin

    Who were the “some people” HRC refers to that launched the video excuse between the hours of 16:00 and 22:00 on Sept 11, 2012.

    And why?

    NB: October 17, 2012 was the infamous Candy Crowley debate when the video excuse was still swirling in the media.

    • Deapster

      Romney says in Jan 2014:

      “…….“You know, I think they have now come to the conclusion that in fact, it was organized in part by an affiliate of al Qaeda, which was very different than what they told the American people in the two weeks following the attack.

      And as to what happened on the night of the attack and what actions were taken, that’s just something we just don’t know the full story on, and I think people still wonder what happened there,”

      Romney said. “I don’t know that there’s a cover-up effort going on, but I do know that it’s something which I think deserves to be fully examined.”…..”

      Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/27/romney-breaks-silence-on-candy-crowleys-debate-interference/#ixzz30hjNnkrG

    • jbjd

      You wrote, “Fact: HRC first mentions the video defense for the Benghazi attack in public at 10PM (22:00) the night the event is happening.”

      No; she doesn’t.

      I have worked all day and night, literally, on my post. It should be up within a few hours. Then, I am asking everyone here to post, re-post, and post again.

      You cannot imagine what these people have done.

      • buzzlatte3

        That’s what I’ve wondered. Are the American people ready for the truth?

        • jbjd

          Did you understand my answer to Deapster?

          • buzzlatte3

            Yes, you debunked the Hillary comment. It was a concerted effort to deflect and obfuscate by a number of people while there’s a possibility of dereliction of duty. That’s my take.

          • Deapster

            Just read your follow up – I thought I posted a copy of her 10pm statement that stated “some people” thought it was the internet video.

            Was that also the statement that the Dept of State websiite also says is no longer available, when it was linked from a contemporaneous article?

            Happy to be shown this was not the case, and also why this other scenario is out there about her allegedly introducing the video at 10PM. 9/11/12

            Facts are what we are after – and how the “record” got so mangled and distorted. Looking forward to your further information. Continuing confusion about the sequence of events has served no one.

    • Deapster

      I was basing this 10pm HRC statement “fact” on the notoriously partisan Fact Check timeline which stated as follows which says as follows:

      FACTCHECK (GOOGLE) – Benghazi Timeline http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

      “…….About 10:00 p.m.: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issues a statement confirming that one State official was killed in an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. Her statement, which MSNBC posted at 10:32 p.m., made reference to the anti-Muslim video.

      Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind……..”

      NB: There is a hyperlink in the first paragraph under “HRC issues a statement” which takes one to the Dept of State with the advisory this document is no longer available.

      My error in calling this 10pm “statement” a fact (with a capital F) when this too may also be part of a calculated cover-up too?. Looking forward to learning more.

      The perils of internet “research”. As if one google link automatically becomes “Fact”. Let’s hear more.

  • Deapster

    OT:

    Harpy MoDo describes the current Demo internal food fight between the Clintons and Obama. Will HRC become Benghazi’s John Dean?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/opinion/sunday/dowd-42-and-45-overpower-44.html?hp&rref=opinion

  • Deapster

    Trip down memory lane, revisiting the Watergate hearings:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXPcQroX1U

    • KlugerRD

      Someone is going to be Obama’s Howard Dean. Wonder who it will be or will there be more than one?

      • Deapster

        Both Bill and Hilary Clinton?

        They have the most to gain by talking, and the most to lose by their continued silence.

        • stodghie

          i have wondered if it might be holder. clearly they have the goods on him. when and if he is arrested he’ll throw O under his own bus.

          • buzzlatte3

            Holder is in too deep with the whole administration’s shady modus operandi. But, who knows?

        • S7teen70six

          Dude, that’s like so unicorny.

          • Deapster

            I was going for puppies, rainbows and butterflies.

  • HELENK2

    the backtrack bunch and the media theme song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeIsxXDyjlc

  • Valentine Bonnaire

    Frightening pictures in Twitter about Odessa in Ukraine. Omg. In the meantime got this from allahpundit & listening. Larry. The Trey Gowdy got it. Really. In the meantime this is how reporters are treated. you just have to see. Off Politico. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/29/obama_worked_up_over_ed_henrys_question_about_unflattering_foreign_policy.html

  • Deapster

    The tangled web of Media-Obama in graphic form from American Thinker:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/05/the_tangled_web_of_mediaobama_administration_ties.html

  • piattq

    What do you think of Trey Gowdy for chair of the select committee?

    • HELENK2

      good choice

    • Deapster

      Not if the committee chair person has to maintain a neutral role. He might be better as one of the investigators/questioners where he can be free to follow his own conscience as an individual, than a neutral task master..

      • piattq

        My understanding is that the chr plays a major role in organizing the structure and content of who, what how is asked from that perspective I think he could be great and he would go for the truth where the facts take it. He would not put up with the run around Issa has allowed.

        • Deapster

          Loved Gowdy’s line about being a “tired old prosecutor from South Carolina”.

          Reminded me of that “old country lawyer” sam Ervin who stole the Watergate show with his gentlemanly, slow talking Southern charm but with laser-like precision …. had lasers been invented then????

    • KlugerRD

      Gowdy was an exceptional prosecutor and very disciplined. I think he will structure this so that staff attorneys ask the questions. He will make sure that this is not platform for politics and posturing and will be for fact-finding.

    • S7teen70six

      There won’t be any more Lois Lerners.

  • HELENK2
    • wyntre

      NY Post.

      • HELENK2

        you are right sorry

  • Deapster
    • HELENK2

      I have a bumper sticker on my car that reads
      REMEMBER BENGHAZI 9-11-2012

      I have had a guy stop me in a parking lot and ask me what is Benghazi

      • no_longer_a_democrat

        wow! really????!?!?

        That is so depressing… only silver lining, while he was ignorant about it, at least he’s curious enough to ask… of course if he’s a Obot, he would call you a racist for not moving on…how dare you hold Obie accountable for anything!

        • HELENK2

          no he was really curious and willing to listen

          • no_longer_a_democrat

            that is encouraging to hear! and kudos to you for taking the time to explain it to him.

      • doc99

        Hillary Rodham Clinton Born 10/26/1947 Died 9/11/2012

      • binky354

        I need one of those.

        • Deapster

          I need two of those.

    • binky354

      Pitiful excuse for an American.

  • Deapster

    If Media Matters types wanted to sabotage a blog that was running counter to their point of view, how would they do it?

    —Send over trolls?
    —Fill it full of extraneous articles that discourage new viewers?
    —Continually go off-topic?
    –Hijacking pertinent threads with long-winded follow-ups?
    –Overwhelm the normal flow of conversation with tedious and/or obscure details?
    —Post densely with no white space?

    Now that the truth has hit the media and cannot be ignored it is interesting to watch the Obots on the blogs swing into action. We are ready for them.

    • wyntre

      Yeah. What’s up with VB?

      • Valentine Bonnaire

        Investigative journalism. <3 In a live stream. Documented here, and I am sending links to journos I know. No worries. I know Larry is CIA and he's a good guy. His friends are on this. I know they are. This is probably Watergate 2. Maybe worse.

        • Deapster

          Isn’t that special. NQ becomes VB’s private document dump.

          • wyntre

            Weird. And annoying.

          • Valentine Bonnaire

            Perhaps before you continue to insult? You might come clean about your own role here? Thx.

        • doc99

          No one died at the Watergate

          • Valentine Bonnaire

            Correct. This is insane.

  • Valentine Bonnaire

    Because I don’t know anything about this agency, I’m looking. Because I’m assuming it’s huge. It seems to me, that in a maze of cubicles (this is what happened to newspaper industry) for awhile there… that the CIA is composed of many areas and they might not know what each branch is doing? So, the Foreign Relations area. Also? They seem to have tremendous turnover. But? There must be old guys in there who people at the top levels trust? There must be. I feel like I have to believe that as an American. I do. So I got a chart, and Frank mentioned Gates. I found an article that dates from 1987 that he wrote. Morell has now moved to CBS news. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CIA_ORG_Structure.svg here is that article. To me, the CIA was like films full of spies? Until now. Now it’s just rooms full of people and some of those people knew about what just happened. There is no getting away from that. None. http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/42779/robert-m-gates/the-cia-and-foreign-policy I feel really scared if that was staged as an event and it went through channels that should be sacred.

  • Deapster

    The unraveling of the Benghazi cover-up is trickling down to question all sorts of other curious oddities strewn across disjointed Benghazi record, such as HRC’s convenient “head injury”:

    http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/05/02/foxs-eric-bolling-hillary-clinton-hit-her-head/199153

  • Deapster

    OT: Obama’s military on the cheap caused a very, very expensive hang-up at LAX and surrounding airports:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/spy-plane-fries-air-traffic-control-computers-shuts-down-lax-n95886

    Looks like Obamacare Airlines, where they still need to work on the “back end” of the computer systems.

  • Deapster

    Time to trot out “the credibility gap” to label Obama’s tenure in office:

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_Credibility_gap?#slide=1

  • Deapster

    We were warned in 2008 – Obama “heals” fainting ladies:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1sM6MnRL00&app=desktop

  • Deapster

    Breitbart; The Top Lies about Benghazi

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/05/02/The-6-Biggest-Lies-About-Benghazi

    Plus the top leading questions that have yet to be answers.

    And I’ll add: who arranged for now missing TIME journalist Steven Sotloff well after the fact to concoct cover stories for the “video defense”.

  • Valentine Bonnaire

    I know you guys are jonesing for dirt and I saw it. So on the precise day of 9/11/2012 it was announced by the very precisely timed “news” briefs we are now so familiar with — that this fucking thing was happening. Show me the mourning, Dude. It was so like a week ago…. I mean who cared? A malignant narcissist? It’s not even “there.” Because there is NO EMPATHY and this was something we talked about in 2008 because it was going to be very dangerous. Released NEWS while those guys were LEFT HANGING. The tweets alone on this? It would be interesting to see how many there were. There are also paid robotic tweets, as well. It’s a tactic being employed right now. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/jay-z-beyonce-obama-fundraiser_n_1874623.html

    • Deapster

      No, we are not “jonesing for dirt”. We are seeking the truth.

      • Valentine Bonnaire

        I know. I know Deapster. I didn’t mean to frame it that way. It’s dirty. It’s so dirty it’s just unbelievable to me that this is happening? I think living through Watergate, but. What has worried me most are the events that unfolded via the spying/non-access to press/dronekills/and now the scripted news in an era when it’s so scary. If this was staged? It’s the most unethical breach that could ever have happened. If it’s staged by people we have trusted, we have to ask ourselves as a nation how did we get here? Right now, I am approaching as investigative & therapist? Because those were my careers in a way for 30 years. But, this is just beyond the pale. I was going to run footage to see what it looked like in Hollywood but I want to throw up. Larry ran a link to a piece I did off one of Bud White’s on how malig nar forms? I wrote that very simply for laymen using an “egg” as motif. The thing is, this kind of egg? Deapster — this kind of egg is so dangerous it’s just. There is no empathy.

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