Current Article

Why Is Anyone Surprised By

By Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy on December 8, 2008 at 1:36 PM in Arrogance, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Chris Matthews, DNC idiocy, Democrats, Equal Pay, Feminism, Gender Bias, Geraldine Ferraro, Hillary Clinton, Human Rights, MSNBC, Media Bias, Misogyny, Obama's Thugs, Obamedia, Sarah Palin, Sexism

This:

Obama’s speechwriter, Jon Favreau, demonstrating who he, and so many of those associated with Obama, is: a misogynistic, juvenile pig who has disrespected the Former First Lady of Arkansas, a Top 100 Attorneys in the United States TWICE, the former First Lady of the United States, a two term US Senator, the RIGHTFUL Democratic presidential nominee, and all women. As they say, a picture speaks a thousand words, and this tells us plenty.

In case that is not enough for you, there is this:

Or how about this:

Oh, we can’t forget this one:

Heck – they don’t have to be about Hillary. Here are some of Obama’s minions sporting their new misogynist-wear. And this is the milder one they were wearing:

No doubt, you know there are more out there about Clinton and Palin.

We don’t have to rely simply on a photo, though. We have video, too. This was from Geraldine Ferraro, who listed the incidences of sexism in the primary:

Gee, Ms. Ferraro, isn’t that PRECISELY what you did?? Immediately flip-flop over to Obama? Hell to the yes, you did, going on show afte rshow touting him as the Democratic nominee. I guess that DOES make you a “typical politician.” To say the very least.

Despite it all, despite all of the sexism, the MISOGYNY, Obama used, NOW threw women under the bus and endorsed him. Planned Parenthood did the same. Then there was NARAL, who threw women under the bus by endorsing Obama, which completely pissed off the folks at Emily’s List. And what did EMILY’S LIST do? Well, it, too, threw women under the bus. Why? To get money, to get on the bandwagon, to show that NOT ONE of those organizations truly have women’s best interests at heart. Apparently, for Emily List’s Director, Ellen Moran, it was to benefit her PERSONALLY since she will now be working as the White House Communications Director. Way to fulfill your mission statements, folks. Way to stand up for women.

And the piece de resistance, the video below. While this focuses on the Primary, it easily speaks to what is happening today:

A picture speaks a thousand words. And the response of Obama to the future White House Speechwriter’s blatant sexism? To the blatant sexism and misogyny in this election? Well, from Obama, the silence is deafening.

As long as Favreau has a job in Obama’s Administration, the message remains clear. Obama’s speechwriter can insult and degrade the future Secretary of State, and other women, and that is A-Okay by Obama. Obama could have half of his entire cabinet be women, but the message to women remains clear.

oowawa

If Favreau is fired, will the fountain of Hopey-Changey rhetoric dry up? Hardly. There are freshman English classes all over the country that can provide a replacement with sufficient talent to string together these tired platitudes. Throw him under the bus, O. He really won’t be missed.

Paris

Yeah, I agree, though I find his action despicable, he’s not a talent, why treat him as if he matters, when this is the best he can do, molest a cardboard cut-out ?

(But then, like that canned slop that he would call a speech, I suppose cardboard, and make believe, are overiding themes in his life, never really getting anywhere near the genuine. And by god, I do have to wonder about his relationship with his mother, that he would “molest” a woman over sixty.)

I hadn’t even heard of him until the publicity (around this picture), his speeches never catching my attention, for all practical purposes he samples the work of other people, and calls it his own.

wodiej

I agree, a picture speaks a thousand words doesn’t it??

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

I totally agree, oowawa! Obama has been giving the same tired 2004 convention speech over and over again throughout this election year? (!) BORING! I suspect his inaugural speech will be just as banal and
“platitudinous” (ha!).

Off topic — but my “snake” comment from a few days back was NOT in response to anything you posted! It was in response to the diary question concerning the qualifications of a Senator. My posting was literally pushed out of order, so my apologies for the confusion!

oowawa

Thanks, Trixta. Quite all right. I am a little snaky at times, I must confess.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

Great, ioowawa! PUMAs rock!

(And Otrolls will get the smack downs, rest assured!)

wowo

big yawn.

Hillary laughed.

jbjd

…and by Freshman, I assume you mean, high school 9th graders…

wodiej

that is an accurate description!

foxx

Thank you for not letting this go. I never will.

http://tojo toni

This should be posted everywhere. There should be discussions in schools about the messages it sends to our sons and daughters. The “silence is deafening”….how true, how shameful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhXA3fXpCFk Woman Voter

I agree, misogyny/sexism can’t be swept under the rug, nor can we pretend that it didn’t happen and continue to pretend as there is no abating of the misogyny/sexism unleashed during this election cycle.

The attacks were AGAINST ALL WOMEN. Women of both parties were attacked (not for their policies but for being women) and the women organization’s stood silent. I worry about the ‘status’ of women in this country and I worry for the next generation of women. Societies that respect women thrive, those that don’t fall into despair.

Ani

Yes, Amy. Thasnk you for posting this and reminding us of all the disgusting misogyny we had to witness and experience this oast year.

He should be fired. Whether he is a dime a dozen or a once in a lifetime talent or anything in between — P.E. Obama must send the message that thsi kind of behavior is not to be tolerated.

It is shocking how many women are so inured to sexism (because they’ve been dealing with it all their lives) that they just make it an acceptable part of their day and act like it is not happening; or downplay it. It is as if they do not realize that they, too, are being disrespected here.

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

And that, Ani, has been one of the SAD parts of this whole election year. While I knew that women were sliding back into the whole “sex object” thing (really – slogans across their rear ends, as just one quick example), their PARTICIPATION in the sexism this year has been distressing…

I agree completely – Favreau needs to be fired. Now.

Thanks, Ani!

Ani

Oh, yes, how could we forget the slogans across the rear end! How elevating!

It really feels like a conspiracy from everyone to clothing manufacturers, style gurus, ad agencies — teenage girls dressing with breakfast,lunch and dinner hanging out with slogans like ‘slut’ across their backside — and the girls play along because this is “cool”. Ask yourself who benefits by us raising a bunch of Barbies? Women certainly do not.

It is eminently possible to be feminine and sexually empowered and still be smart, educated and have dignity — writing ‘slut’ across your own backside doesn’t really convey that message to me — what say you?

NoBamaNoWay

exactly, ani; they are inured to it; many have never known a world in which they weren’t facing this stuff 24/7. many are also overwhelmed by the magnitude and pervasiveness of the sexism; it seems impossible and futile to challenge it or try to change it.

personally, i don’t challenge every single instance of sexism i encounter (there are only so many hours in the day, right?), but what woman with an ounce of self-respect would date these guys, or voluntarily associate with them, or have one good word to say about them to their friends? if women would simply “boycott” these guys, so that they would never be able to find a decent girlfriend or female friend, that would go a long way toward changing their behavior. women who continue to associate with them and accept their contempt for women as if it was normal and acceptable, are basically enabling and perpetuating the misogyny.

Pingback: Clinton On Best Political Blogs » Blog Archive » Why Is Anyone Surprised By
Pingback: Why Is Anyone Surprised By at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs
noproblama

Sorry for the OT, but anyone mention this yet this morning? http://www.yahoo.com/s/998716

beebop

Buyer’s remorse? Boo hoo who would have thought that a guy who has never done anything other than run for the next highest office would renege? Ya think? I have absolutly zip when it comes for sympathy.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

Jon Favreau is the poster child of sexism and misogyny in Obama’s campaign and administration. This said, this picture needs to be used as a running HALL OF SHAME, whereby the most current misgoynist is inserted into the cut out (see The Confluence). This HALL OF SHAME needs to be running trope on all PUMA websites, in my view.

NoBamaNoWay

that photo is worth a 1000 words, isn’t it?

The Robot

Jon Favreau represents perfectly the internal workings of Barack – falsity layered with an extravagant veneer.

But that picture gives Obamaphiles the warm *fuzzies* – they just want to know how they can join in ALL THE FUN!!

Ferd Berfle

falsity layered with an extravagant veneer.

Yep, That One is gold-plated cowpie.

Concerned Mother

I do not believe someone who finds gang rape funny should enjoy a position in the White House. He must be fired.

And since when did Democrats engage in this type of behavior?

Kal

Well….

Remember when Teddy dropped all to go bail his nephew out of trouble re rape charges in Florida?

But then maybe Teddy could really relate to how his nephew felt, having been accused of harming a woman….
wowo

Gang rape?

Hyperbolic explosion right there that disrespects real victims.

You are vile.

JUST SAY NO TO RAPE

To not acknowledge that Favreau’s antics are similar to those of gang rapists is to disrespect SURVIVORS of gang rape. Favreau is proud of his activities, and those activities are similar to those of GANG RAPISTS. LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPH.

wowo

Go to hell you dysfunctional reprobate.

People like you are beneath contempt, you deserve only pity.

Ferd Berfle

Judging from the content of your comments, I’d say you tacitly approve of Favreau’s behavior, which speaks volumes about you. Thanks for the information.

wowo

Tacitly? Do you even know what that word means?

What am I ‘tacitly’ approving of? Gang rape?

LOL

Or are you suggesting I’m ok with him putting his hand on a cardboard depiction of a breast covered by a pantsuit?

The later I’m not tacitly approving, I’m implicitly exclaiming my opinion that you people need to get over your hatred of our next President. Let him get on with hiring the best people for the job/s at hand.

That included Hillary btw.

Ferd Berfle

Tacitly means you are silent about his actions, which in essesnce means you approve it. And by the way, English is my first language. Apparently yours is gobbledegook, spin, or just plain prevarication.

You do approve of his actions, don’t you bot? Tell us the truth.

JUST SAY NO TO RAPE

The only morally corrupt people with sexual dysfunction I see in this thread are Jon “Gang Rape Hillary” Favreau and you. You are here defending a man who thinks violence against women is humorous.

Find a therapist, creep.

wowo

Gang raping a card board cut out?

Get a life you sick pervert.

I guess that woman in the picture is an accomplice to the gang rape.

If you had a conscience you would be ashamed of yourself.

sarahb

It’s Favreau and his buddy who are pictured fantasizing sexually assaulting Hillary Clinton.

You are the lowest scum in the world defending them and attacking people who are outraged by this.

wowo

Ouch that scolding hurt. Especially coming from a mensa member such as yourself.

mandy72227

Go to hell, you asshole. Those guys want to molest a First Lady, you idiot. Who does that? Who thinks that is cool? What is your problem?

Shit like this happens to women all the time. You think it is funny, but it is not cool.

wowo

You sound like the people that wanted to stone Madonna for her ‘Like a Prayer’ video.

Zealotry is unbecoming.

Paris

Oh, Madonna..

She is SUCH an artist…

ROTFLMAO

NoBamaNoWay

i think wowo is a perfect example of the average obama supporter’s mentality. words and symbols have no meaning when it comes to sexism against women. the bitches need to stop whining and being so “sensitive.”

now, if a republican or a hillary supporter stuck their foot forward and held a rag and a can of shoe polish by an obama cut-out, that would be a serious offense, clearly indicative of deep racial hatred.

Ferd Berfle

Take another swig of the Kool-Aide, troll. Shortly some nice people will bring you a starched white gown with extra-long sleeves that tie in the back, whereupon you will be taken to your new quarters.

wowo

Troll?

You haven’t been paying attention have you?

You ignorant malcontents, willing to stretch reason and goodwill to uncharted lengths to attack Obama, don’t rule the roost anymore.

Larry is back on cnn, Hillary is at the State Dept., and you kooks are back to being just a voice from the wilderness among many.

I know you’ve been used to getting away with shouting down people after they had been banned and their posts deleted, but now the refutaions stay and you look even more foolish trying to end arguments with ‘be gone troll’.

Ferd Berfle

You are a troll. An addle-headed, wet-behind-the-ears, Kool-Aide chugging, cheetoh-eating, beanie-wearing obamabot. Do you want me to tell you more about yourself?

You’re about 12, with zits, no friends, and a basement to call home.
Paris

Actually, your analysis, your conclusions are wrong.

But if you wanna stick with it, go ahead.

It’s not like it’s real, with real life reprecussions, right?

You’re safe, really, the smartest I’ve ever seen, really.

You are.

bob

Obama hates women.. and men.. and girl scouts.. and dogs named Rusty.. and he hates white people and black people.. and rich people.. and poor people… and monkeys wearing little hats that ride around on tricycles.. and iphones.. and hates big business and joe the plumber… and britney spears and jennifer aniston… and tom cruise and vince vaughn… and babies born on the 15th… and rhodium watches… and…

noproblama

You know, you’re right, he’s a sociopath.

noproblama

But not about the rhodium, from what I hear.

How bout you bob? Does that photo at the top tickle your fancy, so to speak?

HARP

and…..BOB

Kal

But apparently not nice-looking Pakistani men, or Bill Ayers.

??

socalannie

ROFL!

yttik

I’m not surprised. I’m infuriated by the deafening silence from Obama.

And I’m really angry about people on the internet who are attempting to defend this behavior. Someday Obama’s girls are going to grow up and have to face boys like this, people who believe it is acceptable to treat girls this way. It’s not okay and by remaining silent, Obama is failing to lead, worse he’s giving this kind of behavior encouragment.

beebop

You know, its not like the kid is even talented …..

wowo

In the unlikely story that is America…..even you can be a bitter malcontent.

noproblama

Remember the frat boys from the Borat movie? That’s the pervasive mentality we’re up against. A little too much male bonding and outright disdain for women.

Evidently radical Islam has nothing on us.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

Radical Islam is about extreme male bonding.

noproblama

Yeah, but at least they have an excuse. Their ancient culture and religion tells them they are right to be that way.

We’re supposed to be a little more enlightened.

Kal

They have an excuse? Did you say ‘excuse’??

WTF????
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

Noproblama, all patriarchies (secular and religious) are about radical male bonding, which has as its aim the exclusion of women. Furthermore, many patriarchies use the cudgels of “ancient culture and religion” as a way to dominate women and perpetuate gender bias. In a modern culture and nation state such as the US, patriarchy will find other ways (in addition to culture and religion) to exclude women and “keep them in their place.”

frable

They attempt to diminish Hillary, but she’s not diminished. Those aren’t HER speachwriters. When I see that picture, the cardboard cutout I see is Obama’s: propped up by his fratboy speechwriters, one giving him a squeeze, one whispering in his ear and holding the microphone up to his mouth. The source of all the elequence. It’s going to be hard to hear his speeches in the future without thinking of where the words are coming from.

AF catfish

Hey that’s good. His inauguration speech will evoke a la Pavlov’s dogs, that cardboard cutout.

samb

WHAT A BUNCH OF ”A” HOLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cindy

Thanks, Rev, Amy for posting this. We cannot see it often enough if we’re to keep in mind what America has just elected!
Here’s my favorite quote on the subject:
“The world has never yet seen a truly great and virtuous nation because in the degradation of woman, the very fountains of life are poisoned at their source.” ~Lucretia Mott

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

That is a GREAT quote, Cindy – thank you!

http://tojo toni

I’ll second that…great quote!

Kal

Third that. Love this quote!

superGong

I’m soooo mad at Obama for winning the Democratic nomination!! How dare he get more delegates than Hillary?!?! And then he goes on to win the White House?!? What is this world coming to?

I’m just so mad that I can’t see straight.

Hello, is anyone paying attention? He is BLACK!! And AFRICAN!! And he is a MAN! And his wife is BLACK! And his wife was never been proud of America! And his daughters are BLACK!! And he pals around with terrorists! And his minister for over 20 years is BLACK! And hates white people! And hates America! We are letting this country slip away.

I think I will start a blog where all I do is throw temper tantrums everytime I see some injustice that hasn’t been blamed on Obama — so I can blame it on Obama! Because we know that everything bad in this world is because he stole the election from Hillary!!

Paris

Before you start a blog maybe you should learn to write.

Get it?

ROTFLMAO

(A metaphor for the whole third tier Obama crew, they just aren’t smart.)
HARP

Your mother should keep tighter control of your internet access during your formative years.
noproblama

Huh?

Maybe you should change your handle to superBong because sweetie, you’re just not making any sense.
http://tojo toni

superGong says: “I think I will start a blog where all I do is throw temper tantrums everytime I see some injustice that hasn’t been blamed on Obama — so I can blame it on Obama! Because we know that everything bad in this world is because he stole the election from Hillary!!”

Wow, superGong, you get it, you really, really, get it! On behalf of the world, thank you for your upcoming blog!

Liz

If anyone doesn’t “get” why this upsets women: Picture this–

The “speech writer” is a woman and she has her hand over Edward Kennedy’s crotch.

http://tojo toni

No, no, that would only excite the masses. (wink, wink)

Paris

“Rock journalism is people who can’t write, preparing stories based on interviews with people who can’t talk, in order to amuse people who can’t read.”

Somehow, this seems to also apply to that whole Obama “jon like” crew…

Ferd Berfle

Never have so many done so little for so much, to paraphrase Churchill.

bob

What if Hillary grabs Obama and kisses him on national TV? A nice, looooongg, wet, sloppy wet kiss, with a little tongue to finish it off. Would that go over well? Would it show that they really like each other? Or would Hillary be accused of sexual harassment? Or vice-versa? Ebony and Ivory…

HARP

Bob….Let go of your penis…NOW.

bob

Y’all are the ones obsessing over it. I’m just taking the issue to it’s logical conclusion. Sex between Clinton and Obama is really what’s being suggested here isn’t it? If I’m wrong then explain it. First time, Obama and Clinton get back after a long flight together, National Enquirer will be reporting that Michelle and the kids are staying at the Mayflower.

HARP

Your verbosity is exceeded only by your stupidity.

bob

See my post below to samb. You don’t have the skill or intellectual acumen to lodge an attack on me that’ll work, HARPsichord.

HARP

Blessed is the man who, having nothing to stay, abstains from giving us worthy evidence of the fact.

THANKS FOR PROVING THIS BBBob

Paris

Oh, shit, I said I wouln’t lower the tone of the discussion, but since Bob is here, trying again to cop a troll and an idea (ahem — just like, just like, oh, never mind), I will:

Can’t happen, Bob, Obama doesn’t swing that way…

(Sorry, admin…)

???

I have a feeling there are many people that voted for Obama that thinks he swings low.

oowawa

Sex between Clinton and Obama is really what’s being suggested here isn’t it?

?????

Here is what I and others are suggesting: Mr. Obama’s campaign and his supporters have enraged millions of Americans by statements and actions with misogynistic overtones and a general insensitivity to women’s issues. This latest picture involving his speechwriter Jon Favreau is an explicit and egregious example of this. If Mr. Obama would fire Mr. Favreau and explain that overt sexism of this sort will not be tolerated in his administration, that would be a first step in healing these wounds.

Paris

But we kind of knew that wouldn’t happen, based on his campaign, his hiring of Axelrod for a White House position, the permanent campaign of the incompetent executive, just like Bush, and Cheney.

He can’t govern, he can’t write and he hires people like jon — none too bright.

What else can he do, really, but half assed ops, he’s not intelligent…

I would expect more of this, whether it’s attacking women or gays, it’s sometimes used as a diversionary tactic, and I expect Obama’s group to flame the culture wars, just like Rove.

Mostly, though, I would watch the treasury coffers, or what’s left of them, Obama’s Rezko history speaks volumes.

Kal

More to the point, keep an eye on BO’s various coffers. And property.

Paris

Yeah, stealing from the taxpayer is not cool.

samb

BOB, IT MUST TAKE YOU HOURS TO FORM A SINGLE THOUGHT.

bob

Come on, samb. If you’ve read any of my posts, you know that I don’t get moved or ruffled by insults and character attacks. If you’ve got something to say about what I’ve posted, then say it, otherwise step to the back of the line ’cause there’re other folks who do.

samb

HOURS AND HOURS
HARP

Vescere bracis meis.

beebop

uh um uh Bob … uh I uh kissed that uh um Biden uh uh woman and uh that was um uh it uh for uh me.

Bob … seriously dude. What you are seeing in that picture is not about sex. It is about sublimation, control and power. Little Jon couldn’t even get it up for a woman.
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

Hey, bob, your inflatable Obama doll has just arrived in the mail. Now go away and play….

William L. Donlon

Amy!

WOW!

Really great job of pulling this all together.

When I was a little boy and would do something my Grandmother disliked, she would turn to me and say:

“See the way you are”!

Your article really shows us “The way we are”.

Women have to use this to unite and bring the Woman’s Rights Movement into the New Century.

The torch has been passed in this 08 election to a new generation of Women like you.

I think that everything in your Article, as degrading as it is to Women, will ultimately unite you and make you stronger.

I am reassured that The Woman’s Rights Movement is in good hands.

Thanks!

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Thank YOU for your comment, William L., and your call to action. I second that – we need to unite and stand up to the rampant sexism that has infiltrated our politics, our news sources, our classrooms, our youth.

We cannot let yet another instance of blatant sexism by the Obama camp to stand.

superGong

Administrator: Such xenophobic, racist, sexist filth is not allowed at this blog.

~~YES! We need to flop on the floor and throw a fit!~~

And blame everything that is bad on OBAMA, because, you know, he is a black muslim from Africa who hangs out w/ racists anti-American black ministers and terrorists! Oh, and he stole the election from Hillary!!

moonette

agreed that it is in poor taste, but it is kinda funny. we have some cardboard cutouts of dr. phil in my office and people have taken funny pictures of guys “making out” with him and posted them on a blog.

this picture just looks like kids acting like kids (probably after a few brews). what’s wrong with a little fun… why does everything have to be SO serious.

he should be reprimanded but I don’t think it’s a reflection of how he does his job nor should he be fired for it. he’s not the president elect, nor is Obama accountable for everything his staff/supporters say or do.

Paris

She’s a us senator, and his writing is prosaic, canned crap, stolen, or maybe “sampled” from people who can actually think.

But I can’t tell you how much fun it is to mock him…

Really, nothing we like better than a would be George Michael clone, unknown to himself, clueless and loudmouthed.

superGong

~~And you forgot…~~

~~Because OBAMA is a black muslim man from Africa, who is married to a black women!! He STOLE the election from Hillary!! SHE should be President! Not some black African muslim who HATES women.~~

[Such racist filth is not allowed on this blog. Administrator]

Ferd Berfle

Pedestrian try, there troll–you and your comments are ready-made tripe for a Chuck Barris retread ~~sideshow~~ gameshow, which you fail in the first round.

Poor Judgement

to put this where others could see it was when he crossed the line, or got caught crossing the line.
It was in Very Poor Taste and sexist to do this much less photograph it, and then put it on a web site.
It actually shows his imaturity. I dont know about other people but i feel someone that immature should not be working that close to the President, and privy to the many things the President is privy to.
And yes this does reflect on Obama. Sorry to say but what his staffers do and say especially when it is related to the political agenda it reflects back on him. Hey it was Obama who employed him and Obama who pays him.

Poor Judgement

I forgot to add that since Obama is now the President-elect this also reflects on America.
I wonder how many people from other countries saw this and thought badly of America?
Remember whatever Obama and his people do is reflected back at America.

Paris

Right, that isn’t how you play on a world stage, esp as a new, unproven president, this as silly as that whole “office of President Elect thing.”

But then, they’re hardly sophisticated.

Isn’t Obama’s transition guy John Podesta?

He’s smart, I can’t imagine he would feel jon’s actions are politically astute.

This is already the second time Obama should have spoken up, and failed, the other was in regard to the Detroit fiasco (at least until this past weekend with his interview on MTP).

Hm.

oowawa

Moonette, we’re talking about the chief speechwriter to the President of the United States here. This is the big leagues, and these folks cannot conduct themselves like fratboys with a My Space page where anything goes. O has got to disown this behavior, and fast. A firing is in order. And yes, Obama IS accountable. You know where the buck stops, right? No hiding from responsibility anymore.

jbjd

BO can no longer respond to this behavior “fast.” That ship has sailed.

bob

Y’all can deny it till the cows come home but ol’ bob knows what you’re really thinking. Just wait till the pictures of Obama and Hillary frolicking on a beach in Hawaii come out.

Paris

Bob, he’s gay, isn’t he, or least bi?

He has issues with women, sexually.

bob

See, you just proved my point. You say on the one hand that it’s not about sex but sex-ism. On the other hand you say Bambi’s gay. So which is it? Is it about Bambi being gay and sexist or hetero and trying to make out with Hillary?

Paris

No, this was in reposne to your comment about Obama and Hillary, specifically.

Big difference.

See?

No?

Ok, give me a moment, I’ll simplify so you can understand.
NoBamaNoWay

well bob, being a gay male and being anti-woman are certainly not mutually exclusive.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

Actually, we’re waiting for pictures of bob and his inflatable Obama doll to come out.

cathnealon

“why does everything have to be so serious”
If that’s the way you feel the just watch Stewart, Colbert and Mahrer every day. That should make it easy for you–don’t come to a site that dares to expose the continuum of miosgyny that exists on a global scale. If women had never been maimed, abused, stoned, hung, burned at the stake, considered ‘property’ until the beginning of the 20th century in America and still considered as such in many other countries then maybe this would be just a adolescent joke. But local newspapers still continue to publish stories of spouses, ex-spouses, lovers, ex lovers that abuse and kill their significant others in domestic violence situations. And on cable BBC type channels you can witness stories of rape used as a war weapon, of genital mutilation, of honor killings. So you see it’s not harmless, it’s a tragedy that young men are raised to act like this in an educated country like ours. Wake up.
moonette

people in other countries that adopted progressive policies and attitudes years ago, probably just chuckle and then move on to something important.

Paris

Actually, no.

Obama’s technique is amateur, utilizing a simplistic divide and conquer, something, no doubt, the militaries of the world are wholly unfamiliar with — but Obama’s guys don’t see it, because, well they’re not really sophisticated, are they?

You know how people thought Bush was obtuse and unsophisticated in part because of his political technique?

Same with Obama, and it affects his abilty to make his decisions stick, intelligent Americans don’t hire obtuse speechwriters and staff, sorry.

They have to prove themselves just like everybody else, and they’re already being gamed, failing.

They dont get a pass because they’re American boys.

Kind of get it, he looks like moron, and drunken obtuse frat boys are disregarded.

Like Bush, he’ll be played and ignored.

AF catfish

That final YouTube clip (with Media Matters still at the beginning) you posted is very well done. People, please take the time to view the whole thing.
rw

Those two asswipes in the picture need that cardboard cut out between them, otherwise they’d be on the floor giving each other mutually bj’s.

As for Obama, that black androgynous skinny bastard will never be my president…
http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Thanks, AF Catfish. HRCin08 is the author of it, along with some other very good videos. If you double click on it, it will take you directly to YouTube, and HRC’s other videos. Sadly, there is much fodder for videos on the sexism and misogyny this season…
http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

Thank you Rev. Amy! (again)

For not letting this frat boy get away with his blatant sexism.

This is a serious subject —

the only way that these misogynistic males (and females) are ever going to change their behavior is to shake them awake — get their attention and then MAKE them see that their behavior is wrong.

In family therapy when one individual is on a destructive path something called an intervention is called — literally an intervention to prevent this person from self destruction. (For instance drug use by teenagers — heavy drinking — and let’s add misogyny.)

0bama needs some serious Intervention Therapy — not the hand holding he is getting from OLD, ancient feminist groups like NOW. His behavior is unacceptable — and the Tr0lls represent him with their behavior. Every time an 0bot troll shows up — they represent the ONE — and reaffirm my decision why I could not and will not ever vote for a sexist pig.
Tess

Thanks for the reminder to watch the Media Matters video. It’s brilliant.
Because I’m pretty sure O’s minions monitor this site, I want to say clearly to them that this juvenile hateful episode (I mean, not only DOING it, but putting it on his facebook!) seriously undermines O’s credibility. A lot of people will be snickering at his next Fav speech. Can’t wait.
The PEBO is an unqualified, unvetted boor, a vulgar one at that (unless that’s redundant?).

Paris

Because I’m pretty sure O’s minions monitor this site, I want to say clearly to them that this juvenile hateful episode (I mean, not only DOING it, but putting it on his facebook!) seriously undermines O’s credibility

(sigh)

That’s too bad.

jon has now become the first generation z joke, hasn’t he, their equivalent of Mark Foley, or Larry Craig?

Yes, yes, suitable for the world stage.

ROTFLMAO

SantaFeK

Amy—another good one. The New AGenda has spoken out about silly boy-no respect-no couth-immature-dominance minded-his mother should be so proud of him Favreau, who is stupid enough to pose for a picture even.

Carville and others were snickering about Favreau today–just having fun, ya know. IT was mean to make this public, ya know.
The Robot

People went into “religious ecstasy” over the writings of this pathetic frat-boy fondling a cardboard cutout likeness of Hillary Clinton?

Oh my, they’ve been bamboozled, hoodwinked, you know, the ol’ okey-doke!

http://deleted Buzz Latte

The uninitiated are sorely unaware of the trouble their messiah is going to get the country in.

Katmoon

RRAmy For you, something to lighten the heart and know some men have a deep love and respect for women: this is a copy of Bobby MCFerrin’s version of the 23rd Psalm, not so far fetched, to have a mother and a father is it.

The 23rd Psalm [lyrics]
The Lord is my Shepard, I have all I need,
She makes me lie down in green meadows,
Beside the still waters, She will lead.

She restores my soul, She rights my wrongs,
She leads me in a path of good things,
And fills my heart with songs.

Even though I walk, through a dark and dreary land,
There is nothing that can shake me,
She has said She won’t forsake me,
I’m in her hand.

She sets a table before me, in the presence of my foes,
She anoints my head with oil,
And my cup overflows.

Surely, surely goodness and kindness will follow me,
All the days of my life,
And I will live in her house,
Forever, forever and ever.

Glory be to our Mother, and Daughter,
And to the Holy of Holies,
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be,
World, without end. Amen

can listen here(hopefully), I have had my own copy for years.

http://www.last.fm/music/Bobby+McFerrin/_/The+23rd+Psalm
Katmoon

My apologies if the link doesn’t give a listen: It’s from his “Medicine MAn” album, 1991, this was his way to dedicate the 23rd Psalm to his mother. I think it’s beautiful.

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Thanks, Katmoon! I appreciate that. McFerin is VERY talented…

And I know there are men who truly DO care abt this issue, and abt treating/SEEING women as equals.

Thanks again for thoughtful comments, folks! It helps to have people like you out there who get it!

Katmoon

RRRA, I have a secret fantasy I have had most of my life, in the tradition of Chrisitanity, that Jesus, has been amongst us for some time, as a woman(taking names I might add). It’s a story I write in my head and have put some to paper.The movie “Dogma” hit on it, a bit. The reason I am applying this aspect to the discussion, I feel there is a relationship on how the cultures the world over have adopted beliefs that do not involve a female creator. Seems (per Joseph Campbell) the formation of many belief systems involve the female being left out of the creation myth, which also leaves her powerless; this was not by accident; and the residue carries over into our cultural lives beyond spirituality and religion.

http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

Hey, Katmoon -

I have been trying to recall the name of a book written by a medical doctor on the advent of language was the beginning of the demise of goddess worship. It was REALLY interesting – unfortunately, I gave it to someone, and I cannot remember the name. His premise was an interesting one on why it was that goddess worship, which had been predominant, has been almost wiped out (Wiccans and other Earth-based cultures practice it, as well as other world religions). If I think of the name, or can find it, I’ll let you know. It might help with the story you are writing in your head…I hope you get the whole thing out on paper. Would love to see it!
http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

OK – I think this is the book, Katmoon, “The Alphabet Versus the Goddess: The Conflict Between Word and Image” by Leonard Shlain.

socalannie

Thank you Rev Amy for this great piece. I’m glad to see that this despicable picture has gone viral on the web. We need to give it all the shame it deserves.
Concerned Mother

The National Organization of Women (NOW) will not condemn this photograph. Since when does NOW protect men who act out fantasies of gang rape?

oowawa

The National Organization of Women (NOW) will not condemn this photograph. Since when does NOW protect men who act out fantasies of gang rape?

Because NOW is now WAS (Women’s Acquiescence Society)

socalannie

WAS!!! Excellent! Love your comments!
Margaret

perfect
NoBamaNoWay

heh.

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

NOW has officially become NOT NOW . . . not now to speak against sexism and misogyny; not now for a women president . . . .

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

I meant a “woman president”, that is.

Poor Judgement

just wondering if this is the same frat boy that stole parts of other peoples’ speeches for Obama???

if so it looks like Obama needs some change himself.

Tess

nice wrapup! I might’ve forgotten if you hadn’t posted.
This guy, Fav, STEALS! It is so cool to be reminded!

http://rose4hillary.blogspot.com/ Still4Hill

Hillary knows how to handle men who are obsessed with her (even if she says she doesn’t):

1. Her response to Favreau;
2. This response to Chris Matthews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjsqDrdvIPw

But men don’t know how to handle women like Hillary. And I think they DO get obsessed.

The actual gang rape happened the night Tim Russert turned all the men on her in that debate. And the problem is that we did not stomp all over them sufficiently the next day.
William L. Donlon

They just announced today that they will be giving the “Pulitzer” for on line work.

I would like to nominate This piece of Amy’s for that First Online Pulitzer.

Amy’s fantastic work at pulling this all together gives you, the reader, an opportunity to look back and reflect on the bruising sexist battle that has taken place in 2008.

When you see it assembled in this way you begin to realize a couple of things that were lost as it played out in it’s drip, drip, twelve month process.

Because of Amy’s piece, I’m shocked at:

How pervasive Sexism is.

How easily it is excused and dismissed.

How unready the Woman’s movement was, and still is to deal with it.

How un-united the Woman’s movement is in combating it.

What a daily beating Hillary, Sara and their supporters like Mrs. Ferraro took.

How much respect I have for their incredible courage and determination to soldier on.

What an opportunity this work of Amy’s gives to the Woman’s Movement to come together and confront this common enemy.

What Amy has put together is the Ugly Face of Sexism.

Everything in Amy’s work happened in a twelve month period of 2008.

Those who perpetrated it, especially in the media, are the scum of society.

Those who were targeted and stood up to it are the real Heros and the giants of 2008.

What is not known is the Question left hanging over Amy’s work,

Where does the Woman’s movement go from here?

My humble suggestion would be:

A “Never Again” Convention In Seneca Falls N.Y. this summer with Hillary and Sara as Guest speakers.

Once again Amy, I’m blown away by to power of this piece and I hope you get an online Pulitzer for it.

Thanks Larry for posting it.
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo&eurl trixta

“A ‘Never Again’ Convention In Seneca Falls N.Y. this summer with Hillary and Sara as Guest speakers.”

I’M UP FOR THAT, Mr. Donlon!
KintheNorthwest

I wonder how funny Michelle would find this one if it was plastered all over the place?

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/does-it-offend-you-now/
Pingback: Red Hot & Blue Wednesday Roundup for 12/10/08 | Red Hot & Blue Politics
Ferd Berfle

Everyone here needs to be more like rw and just wear your racist/bigoted viewpoints on your sleeve.

You speak for no one here, half-wit.
rw

Gee, I thought I was just being straight forward and honest in my description:

Is Obama black? He spent half the primary saying out of one side of his mouth how he is black.
Is Obama androgynous? Some people think so, sort of NYC post nuclear androgynous.
Is Obama skinny? You bet.
Is Obama a bastard? Didn’t Michelle allude to his parents not being married?
Ferd Berfle

You haven’t the foggiest idea of what you are babbling about, moron. You’re merely another paid troll who just got another nickel for your sophomoric blather. One more post and you can afford that bottle of Thunderbird on your way back to skid row. Dry up, lobotobot.
wowo

umm no.

The phony, on demand, outrage over a non issue reflects the ‘values’ of those intent on pushing every story they think they can damage Obama with.

Thankfully you/they will have as much success as ever.
Ferd Berfle

superBoring:

Why do you humiliate yourself by posting such dreck?

Why do you make an ass out of yourself every time you put fingers to keys?

Why do you come to a website where your 2-digit IQ is paraded about for all to laugh at?

Why do you drink to excess when you get on the internet?
Katmoon

Gong, don’t imply lies, could get you into trouble.
Concerned Mother

Only an Obamabot who either has raped or enjoys seeing rape would dismiss our outrage as feigned. It is real, and we want Favreaux FIRED.
wowo

How many sock puppets are you going to use this thread to gin up the outrage libland?
Katmoon

And you are so “clean” in your comments, by trying to incite?
Paris

You know, I’ve noticed over the past few days the trolls seem to be on a different planet, unable to address any issue, simply trying to incite arguements, their words having no conenction to the reality around them.

Kind of like jon’s speeches for Barack.
wowo

You wanted the RBC to hand victory to Hillary, you wanted Rev Wright 24/7, you wanted super Ds to anoint Hillary. You wanted and wanted and wanted.

How did all that wanting turn out for you?

Ironic is the word to describe the vile hyperbole you have chosen for this issue.

Ironic because it’s the same repugnant hyperbole that won you so little support for all your other pet outrages.

Keep up the good work.
Ferd Berfle

70 on the IQ scale falls on the level corresponding to twice yours. You are one stupid bot.
Paris

We got it.

The writing was awful, you show no wit, or even intellect, really.

Not everyone can do Swift.

And not everyone can write speeches, or be the President.

Not everyone can troll, either.

Yet they are, try, and do, fancy that…
http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

HUH??

Oh — 0bot. Gee thanks for showing up to illustrate that the ONE’s followers are sexist jerks.
Ferd Berfle

Hey dingaling: There are thousands of websites devoted to the worship of your Anointed One. Why don’t you go lower their collective IQs by an order of magnitude with your glow(er)ing presence and leave the adults to real discussions?
Ferd Berfle

The obamatrons possessing IQs above 50 are on That One’s transition team, which means we get the lowest of the bottom feeders here.
Ferd Berfle

So this picture and what Favreau is doing is OK by you?

Answer the question, troll. A simple yes or no will do.

We’re all waiting.
NoBamaNoWay

so if your daughter were fondled against her will by a couple guys, and she came to you to do something about it, you would do what? tell her to stop being so sensitive and over-reacting? yeah, i bet you would.
somerset

I would like it replaced with a cut-out of Mother Teresa. The cognitive dissonance is so profound with the obats that maybe it would take a nun…or maybe nothing will work to show our outrage. This is not how you treat women, not in real life and not symbolically.