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that’s not the blagojevich i thought i knew – update again x2

(bumped up from December 10, 9:30 a.m.)

In response to the arrest of Governor Blagojevich, Obama had this to say:

“Obviously like the rest of the people of Illinois I am saddened and sobered by the news that came out of the US attorney’s office today, but as this is a ongoing investigation involving the governor I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to comment on the issue at this time.”

Saddened and sobered? This sounds familiar…

“Yesterday we saw a very different vision of America… I am outraged by the comments that were made, and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday. The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive but I believe they ended up giving comfort to those who prey on hate.” ~ Obama on Wright.

“I’m saddened by today’s verdict, this isn’t the Tony Rezko I knew, but now he has been convicted by a jury on multiple charges that once again shine a spotlight on the need for reform.” ~ Obama on Rezko

“…That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause.” ~ Obama on Phleger

Throw in some Kwame Kilpatrick, Jim Johnson, and William Ayers and it seems like Obama is always finding himself connected to people who end up disappointing him or making him sad, or aren’t who he thought they were.

But, anyway, back to Blagojevich and Obama, it is always Obama’s denials that bother me. As it stands right now, Obama has not been accused of any wrong doing, but he always issues denials that make him sound guilty, and are proved to be fibs, half truths, lies, or cover-ups…

From Jake Tapper:

“Asked what contact he’d had with the governor’s office about his replacement in the Senate, President-elect Obama today said “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.”

But on November 23, 2008, his senior adviser David Axelrod appeared on Fox News Chicago and said something quite different.

While insisting that the President-elect had not expressed a favorite to replace him, and his inclination was to avoid being a “kingmaker,” Axelrod said, “I know he’s talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.”

So, why does Obama always issue these bizarre denials (like what he knew about Wright, or Ayers)? Why not just say that he has made recommendations on who he would like to fill his seat, but was not aware that Blago was seeking payoffs, or whatever? Flat out denials just make a person look guilty. But, perhaps because Obama has close ties to Blago he was trying to put as much distance between them as possible. But, as usual, Obama forgot about the internet machine…

Tapper’s article goes on to detail their associations:

“And, it should be pointed out, Mr. Obama has a relationship with Mr. Blagojevich, having not only endorsed Blagojevich in 2002 and 2006, but having served as a top adviser to the Illinois governor in his first 2002 run for the state house.

That 2002 endorsement came at the same time that Axelrod had such serious concerns about whether Blagojevich was ready for governing he refused to work for his one-time client.

According to Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., Mr. Obama’s incoming White House chief of staff, Emanuel, then-state senator Obama, a third Blagojevich aide, and Blagojevich’s campaign co-chair, David Wilhelm, were the top strategists of Blagojevich’s 2002 gubernatorial victory.

Emanuel told the New Yorker earlier this year that he and Obama “participated in a small group that met weekly when Rod was running for governor. We basically laid out the general election, Barack and I and these two.”

Wilhelm said that Emanuel had overstated Obama’s role. “There was an advisory council that was inclusive of Rahm and Barack but not limited to them,” Wilhelm said, and he disputed the notion that Obama was “an architect or one of the principal strategists.”

(Emanuel later changed his recollection of this story to Rich Miller’s “CAPITOL FAX,” saying, “David [Wilhelm] and I have worked together on campaigns for decades. Like always, he’s right and I’m wrong.”)

Either way, others now around Obama were less enthusiastic about Blagojevich at the time, namely David Axelrod, Obama’s senior campaign adviser who will soon be a senior adviser at the White House.

Axelrod had worked for Blagojevich in his past races for the House, but he declined to work on his gubernatorial run.

“He had been my client and I had a very good relationship with him, but I didn’t sign on to the governor’s race,” Axelrod told the New Yorker. “Obviously he won, but I had concerns about it…I was concerned about whether he was ready for that. Not so much for the race but for governing. I was concerned about some of the folks — I was concerned about how the race was being approached.”

Sounds to me like Axelrod knew something fishy was up with Blago… (UPDATE: Sounds like Joe Sco agrees with me. This video is long, but the beginning talks about how for four years people have known Blago was corrupt, but Obama still endorsed him, even when Axelrod wouldn’t touch him.)

“On the Chicago TV show “Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz” on June 27, 2002, state Sen. Obama said, “Right now, my main focus is to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we…”

“You working hard for Rod?” interrupted Berkowitz.

“You betcha,” said Obama.

“Hot Rod?” asked the host.

“That’s exactly right,” Obama said.

In 2004, then-Gov. Blagojevich enthusiastically endorsed Obama for the Senate seat after he won the nomination, and Obama endorsed Blagojevich for his 2006 re-election race in early 2005.

Sorry, but one can’t help but wonder, if Blago is all about *getting something for Obama’s Senate seat*, was he up to the same kind of funny business with Obama? Did they have a deal to endorse each other? Was it more than that? I think Rod ‘Fuck him. For nothing? Fuck him’ Blagojevich made it quite clear that he doesn’t give anything away for free.

“In the Summer of 2006, then-U.S. Sen. Obama backed Blagojevich even though there were serious questions at the time about Blago’s hiring practices.”

Why did Obama endorse someone who was being subpoenaed? What did Obama owe the Governor for his earlier endorsement?

“At the time, numerous state agencies had had records subpoenaed, with U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald telling authorities he was looking into “very serious allegations of endemic hiring fraud” with a “number of credible witnesses.”

In an interview with the Chicago Daily Herald in July 2006, then-Sen. Obama said, “I have not followed closely enough what’s been taking place in these investigations to comment on them. Obviously I’m concerned about reports that hiring practices at the state weren’t, at times, following appropriate procedures. How high up that went, the degree at which the governor was involved, is not something I’m going to speculate on.”

If you are endorsing someone, and lending your name to their credibility, and they are under investigation for something, don’t you think you would try to figure out what is going on? Am I wrong here? Wouldn’t you try to *follow closely* what is happening, before you continue endorsing the person, putting your credibility on the line?

“If I received information that made me believe that any Democrat had not been acting in the public interest, I’d be concerned,” Obama said.

That said, Mr. Obama said, “If the governor asks me to work on his behalf, I’ll be happy to do it.”

Apparently the governor did. At the Illinois State Fair in August 2006, Obama spoke on Blagojevich’s behalf.”

Hmmm, Obama finds out Blago is under investigation, but says he will continue to be happy to work on his behalf? So, he wasn’t THAT concerned, apparently.

“We’ve got a governor in Rod Blagojevich who has delivered consistently on behalf of the people of Illinois,” Obama told the crowd.

In September 2005 Blagojevich’s approval rating was 36% (that is worse than Bush’s). Polling completed on October 13, 2008 put Blagojevich’s approval rating among Illinois voters at 4%. Only 8 percent of the state’s voters believe Blagojevich has lived up to his promise to end corruption in government—the hallmark of his initial election as governor in 2002 after the tenure of scandal-tarred Republican Gov. George Ryan. Three out of four Illinois voters said Blagojevich failed to keep his promise to end corruption in state hiring, contracts and appointments to state boards and commissions.

It doesn’t sound like the people of Illinois felt that Blagojevich was working on their behalf…

In fall 2006, on his way to winning a second term, Blagojevich held an average job approval rating of nearly 70 percent among African-American voters in a series of Tribune polls.

Could this be due to, in part, the endorsement from Obama?

“In January 2007, Blagojevich’s office reserved the Old State Capitol for Mr. Obama’s presidential announcement at Obama’s request.

Blagojevich spokeswoman Rebecca Rausch told reporters that “Representatives for Sen. Obama contacted the governor’s office regarding use of the Old State Capitol. We contacted the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency and reserved the Old State Capitol for the Senator on February 10th.”

The Old State Capitol is where President Abraham Lincoln delivered his “House Divided” speech in 1858.

Fitzgerald today said that the charges the government was making about Blagojevich “would make Lincoln turn over in his grave.”

It was reported on November 5th that Obama had a meeting with Governor Blagojevich to discuss the Senate seat.

Ill. governor meeting with Obama today
By Carol Sowers
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.
That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.
He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.
Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement.

And the Governor sent out a press release on Nov. 5th stating that he had spoken to Obama, and congratulated him on his victory, and that he will begin the process to selecting a suitable replacement for Obama.

UPDATE 2:
On Nov. 8 it was reported that Obama had met with Blagojevich to discuss the Senate seat.

Duckworth comments on consideration for Senate
By Alexis Hunt
Saturday, November 08, 2008 at 9:48 p.m.

QUINCY, IL — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

Obama met with Governor Rod Blagojevich earlier this week to discuss it. Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement. There’s already been speculation about his selection…from Congressman Jesse Jackson, Junior to Illinois Department of Veterans’ Affairs Director Tammy Duckworth

So, what do we have here? Another case of Obama displaying very poor judgment, or extreme naivete, or a typical case of Chicago style politics?

All I know for sure is that this seems to be a song and dance I have seen and heard before.

UPDATE 3: Those dirty devils went and DELETED the news stories from Nov. 5 and 8th. NOW do people believe us when we say that the media is COVERING for Obama? Thankfully The Robot captured a screen shot, and posted it for me. (I was stupid and didn’t get them). Also, New Busters covered this. They saved the google cache, but even that was scrubbed. Not your sweetie also has images from the story.

Gateway Pundit also has screen caps, including the Press Release.

Tom Blumer from Newsbusters is on top of it! He has the saved cache, and makes an excellent point in response to the latest *denial*.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie

    And wouldn’t it be nice if Jesse Jackson Jr’s tears smelled like #5?
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/will-jjj-candidate-5-get-to-analyze-his-own-tears/

    • MissTickly

      http://www.connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

      “Ill. governor meeting with Obama today
      By Carol Sowers
      Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

      CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

      That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

      He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.”

      Well, well, well…would this meeting be a matter of public record because Obama was a senator at the time?

      • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

        The Blagojevich Timeline: Everything Fits Easily Except Obama’s Monday Denial.

        Most people have misunderstood the timeline of the Blagojevich Senate scandal. Pretty much everything fits except Barack Obama’s statement yesterday that he knew nothing about it.

        If we didn’t have Obama’s denial to contend with, the actions of all the parties, including those purporting to speak for Obama, are consistent with Obama and his staff learning about Blagojevich’s corrupt plans on Monday, Nov. 10.

        http://volokh.powerblogs.com/posts/1228903890.shtml

        • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

          Q: Have you ever spoken to [Illinois] Gov. [Rod R.] Blagojevich about the Senate seat?

          Obama: I have not discussed the Senate seat with the governor at any time. My strong belief is that it needed to be filled by somebody who is going to represent the people of Illinois and fight for them. And beyond that, I was focused on the transition.

          Q: And that was before and after the election?

          Obama: Yes.

          Q: Are you aware of any conversations between Blagojevich or [chief of staff] John Harris and any of your top aides, including Rahm [Emanuel]?

          Obama: Let me stop you there because . . . it’s an ongoing…. investigation. I think it would be inappropriate for me to, you know, remark on the situation beyond the facts that I know. And that’s the fact that I didn’t discuss this issue with the governor at all.

          So…in other words, yes.

          http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/12/obama-transcrip.html

      • nancy sabet

        This is the type of corruption that Palin rooted out in Alaska. It’s unfortunately common, though, and I bet Obama has, in the best scenario, simply learned to look the other way. He won’t be a reformer and so won’t bring the change we need.

        • tek

          How could Obama reform anything when he was hand-picked by corrupt leaders?

          The IL General Assembly has told Rod to resign. If he doesn’t, they’re going to impeach him. (He’s been unpopular in IL for years).

      • ipotter

        LINK IS GONE! ANYONE HAVE A SCREEN SHOT?

        • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

          those sonzebitches! they deleted both stories!!!

    • pamOBSP

      He is and has cancelled all appointments today. Karma is a Bitch. I wonder if he’s “crying” fake tears now.

      • MissTickly

        Really? What’s the spin, no,no don’t tell me–his grandmother is dying and he has to fly to hawaii.

        • Baba Rum Raisin

          “Dead Grandma in (fill in the blank),” is always a great excuse. I once had a fellow working for me who buried two or three Grandmas every year, except that his were, “Up in Georgia.”

          As an excuse, it trumped the great one from College Girls, to wit: “washing my hair tonight,” closely followed by, “my Roomate’s sick.”

      • nancy sabet

        Obama launched his career from the home of two domestic terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, and collaborates with radical groups like ACORN under the guise of “community organizing”. He sat in a church for over 20 years listening to the sermons of a rabid moonbat who “god-damned” America and railed against “whitey” and Jews.
        Some of the world’s worst dictators and Islamic goons are head over heels for his campaign. So far, he’s accumulated William Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn, Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Amahdinejad, Louis Farrakhan, Daniel Ortega, Jeremiah Wright, and Hamas among his associates, admirers, and supporters. He’s a human bug light for despots, terrorists, and hate spewers. No wonder we democrats love him.

        • skinny malinky

          He also attracted supporters such as the Clintons, Colin Powell, Tom Daschle, Retired General Wesley Clark, and lots of other good guys, including plenty of leaders of European democracies.

          • tek

            Colin Powell is totally discredited, Tom Daschle lost his senate seat 6 years ago and would never have been heard of again if he hadn’t finagled Obama onto the ballot, Wes Clark and the Clintons reluctantly came out for him after he stole the nomination away from Hillary.

            • skinny malinky

              So the good guys are discredited and the bad guys are legitimate? Wow, thanks for simplifying that for me.

              • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                No “skinny” – it’s like this. Fraudbama is a CRIMINAL, therefore the bad guy. Please don’t give us your BS about who “supported” the Fraud. ROFLMAO. You trolls have zero credibility. Does that make it simple enough for you? I hope Fitzie has enough ballz to go after the Fraud. Or Scotus. Quite frankly the troll Obot nonsense is getting hard to stomach.

                • skinny malinky

                  What crimes has Obama committed? I’m not saying what you think he’s done wrong, I’m asking what laws has he broken?

                  • lark

                    Aiding and abetting and training community organizations such as ACORN to work around the election laws in order to foster election fraud.

                    Aiding and abetting credit card fraud during the election contribution period.

                    Aiding and abetting mortgage fraud for the purchase of an adjacent parcel of land next to his home.

                    Aiding and abetting corporate lobbyist to undermine the system of grants to uplift Chicago south side community redevelopment grants.

                    Aiding and abetting community redevelopment grants fraud.

                    Aiding and abetting earmarks design to impulse his wife’s salary position at the hospital where she worked.

                    Aiding and abetting birth certificate forgery.

                    Aiding and abetting, aiding and abetting, aiding and abetting.

                    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                      Oh yeah, and there’s that pesky little issue of where the money went from the Annenberg Challenge and where he and his “family friend” “America Makes Me Puke” Billy Ayers stashed it, since the Chicago Public School System was left in WORSE shape when those two crooks were done with it.

                    • Dude

                      Your points of BS

                      > there is nothing wrong with ACORN. this organization does this country a great service by helping people to register to vote. It is a good thing that both Obama and McCain have supported this organization in the past.

                      > credit card fraud? ha! very laughable and a new funny conspiracy

                      > mortgage fraud? Who cares about Rezko, it is not a big deal and means nothing.

                      > if you have any specific information on Chicago fraud involving Obama and south side community grants why don’t you post it on this website or take it to the authorities, otherwise just a bunch of BS

                      > same thing with redevelopment grants

                      > same thingk with earmarks regarding wife’s salary

                      > birth certificate forgery. perhaps the funnest conspiracy of all time… a complete joke. there is no proof of anything and both the state of Hawaii and independent reviewers have verified it authenticity. it is a joke that he even had to show it in the first place.

                      > BS, BS, BS, BS, BS…

                      just grabbing at any wild fantasty to try and bring down the next president…

                      you have really drunk the conspiracy kool-aid

                    • WildChild

                      something’s bothering you.

                    • http://deleted Buzz Latte

                      Hey, Dude’s post ^^^^ should be nominated for:

                      The Most Delusional Obot Award.

                      The execution of total ignorance is brilliant!!!

                      LOL!

                    • lark

                      Hey Dude, the people who walk around my neighborhood all walk with a stick on their hands, yet when you look around there is nothing wrong with anybody.

                      Capisce?

                  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                    Skinny…do you read? Ughhh…Falsifying public documents, including his Illinois Bar Association application, his statement that he is a Natural Born Citizen, his refusal to document himself under Article II of the Constitution, Donald Young (it’s not just me who thinks it, ask the Chicago PD what they think). Voter Fraud, Caucus Fraud, illegal donations from our terrorist friends like Hamas, Rezko deal, MeChelle’s pay to play job deal, of course he’s knee deep in the Rad Blegovich nonsense which we will find out later. Plagiarism is another fun one. He violated the Logan Act on more than one occasion, most specifically traveling around the world on the America Sucks World Tour negotiating with leaders of other countries while Bush is the President. Again, most specifically negotiating to bring the Iraq troops home “after he his elected” so he could take the credit. Who KNOWS how many public documents he has falsified since he won’t show any of them, although we do know he forged his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. That’s a really big NO NO. ACORN, which is a big time criminal organization involved in everything up to money laundering. Let’s all face it. Fraudbama is filthy. We haven’t had ANY President in our history who was this dirty BEFORE he even took office. He is a crap stain on this country and will be impeached. God bless Fitzie. I hope he’s the one with the cuffs at the end of the day.

                    • JG

                      The Skinny Malinsky is a paid Obama internet “specialist”

                      This same line is being put out all over the internet in the comment sections, along with the quote from Hot Rod saying all he’d get is “appreciation”

                      By that Hot Rod was referring to the appointment of his wife to boards at least 2 years out and the Change to Win appointment for him, both proposed by an Obama advisor to avoid “direct” links to Obama.

                    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                      Of course Skinny is a loser troll. LMAO. They’re starting to be the ONLY people who haven’t caught on to what a con job this country just succumbed to by Fraudbama. Even my liberal wing nut Hollywood friend are raising some eyebrows on this crap. Fraudbama is from the Crook Country Sewer and the more those azzholes are exposed, the more ties to the Fraud we will see. Anyone who still supports this freak is nuts. Period.

                    • skinny malinky

                      No, I don’t work for Obama. Just another example of peple on this board making wild accusations with no evidence to support them.

                      I’m on here because it entertains me getting people all riled up by using logic and actual information in defense of Obama. As soon as you say one nice thing, or even refute one insane accusation, you’re immediately set upon by people calling you a cult member who can’t think for yourself. It cracks me up.

                    • http://deleted Buzz Latte

                      Then logically explain why you persist in a futile effort. No one is going to be swung by your supposed logical and “actual information” you purport to provide.

                      Where is the actual information that Obama is completely clean and divested from Chicago corruption?

                      The feds would certainly like to get ahold of it, since their investigations since 2002 are pointing in a different direction…Obama named in the opening statements of the Rezko trial, the mystery money for his campaign, the intertwining of Obama and all the players now running for cover. And let’s not forget that JJJ just had his atty go into damage control.

                    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

                      Skinny – you are a troll. And if and when you ever post anything informational or worthwhile we will address you. None of you trolls ever do anything but say we are liars. You never back it up or have proof. Unlike all of the documents, videos, etc. that WE have that prove exactly what we are saying is the truth. You do nothing but blather on about your Jesus Lord Messiah Fraudbama. Supporting him makes you a joke. Period. But to do so with NO reasoning, no proof and no way to refute our truth makes you even more ignorant.

                    • skinny malinky

                      Blago himself says in the released transcripts that Obama wouldn’t play ball. At worst, Obama lied about when he last spoke with Blago. If I’m going to condemn every politician who tells a lie of this nature, then I’d have to condemn every politician in the world. But we don’t even know the circumstances, so it’s impossible to say right now what happened.

                      As for all the other stuff, the birth certificate is a non-issue according to the Supreme Court. I’ll trust them. The ACORN stuff is also a non-issue; ACORN followed the law and turned everything in, including registrations that they knew were bad. They didn’t try to hide them. Regardless, Obama didn’t have anything to do with their bad voter registrations. The Rezko stuff is all inconclusive, and just because Obama’s name was mentioned in some opening argument doesn’t mean anything. And all the other silliness I don’t have time to research. But as soon as something, anything, comes of it, I’ll pay attention and judge it accordingly.

                    • bemused

                      Skinny, when you say you are here to irritate people, it means you are not a common Obot troll, it means you are a common type of internet jerk who likes to hide behind anonymity to take potshots at others. In other words, you are an antisocial coward. But, you could still be capable of a decent discussion. Let us know.

                    • Dude

                      funny post… a bit insane.

            • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

              Tek all of this is true… all true..he is what this country wanted…good luck folks

              • Brian

                Yes it’s all true. I read it on a blog.

      • Alicia

        I was hoping there would be a photo today so we could determine whether he got any sleep last night.

      • rw

        “crying” fake tears-

        AKA JJJr tears

      • pamOBSP

        I was speaking about Jesse, Jr. He is #5 again, Karma is a Bitch.

    • Lisa

      Wow, a big piece on guilt by association, but no actual proof of any wrong doing. A lot of speculation, innuedo and conspiracy.

      Wow, Obama in the past endorsed a fellow democrat in his own state. That is really something. And the Governor actually won.

      By the way Obama did not deny that his people did not talk to the Governor about his seat. Here is the quote:

      Asked by a reporter if he was aware of the allegations involving the pay-to-play tactics to fill his Senate seat, Obama said: “I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening, and as I said it is a sad day for Illinois. Beyond that I don’t think it’s appropriate to comment.”

      What he was referring to was the investigation, not whether his people talked to the Governor about the seat.

      Obama has been about the most scrutinized candidate for president ever. I am sure if we spent 2 year looking into ever single supposive relationship and backroom deal of either McCain or Bush we could find some stuff to feed conspiracies as well.

      You guys are just pushing for another Whitewater. 7 years and $50 mm of wasted tax payers money for some BS that does not mean a whole lot in the grand skeme of things.

      • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

        so when an anonymous spokesperson came out and said Axelrod mispoke a month ago, when he said Obama and Blago spoke about the senate seat, and then when Axelrod today issued a statement that he mispoke last month, what were they *referring to* then? They were backtracking and denying that Obama EVER spoke to him about the Senate seat.

        Nice try, though.

        • Zee

          lol! Will Axelrod have to misspeak about having misspoke???

          • Donna Brazile

            Hee, hee!

            I misspoke before I spoke!

            Stop the hate!

        • Dude

          great a gotcha, but who cares? it is obama’s seat, anyone with half a brain would expect obama’s people to talk to the governor about who he plans to appoint to replace obama. nothing wrong with that! big deal…. a huge conspiracy… woho!

          • WildChild

            That must explain the arrest.

          • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

            the point is that he LIED. if there is nothing wrong with it, then why did he LIE!?

            • Dude

              what exactly did he lie about? go back and read the transcripts about what obama said. he was talking about the investigation, not whether his people had talked to the governor about his seat. a difference.

              • WildChild

                why dos BOBO have to affirm what is a given? Nobody should know about the investigation until the arrest. Then everybody knows. BOBO was really quick to get all defensive.

                • Dude

                  he was asked in the afternoon after the arrest. he was asked if he was aware of the investigation. he said he had no contract with the governors office. the governors office did not tell him about the arrest before it broke in the press. go back and read or view the interview yourself… pretty straight forward.

                  he never said that his people did not talk to the governor about the seat. and if they did who cares? nothing wrong with talking to the governor about who he may appoint in the seat. it is only wrong if Obama agreed in a quid pro quo for the seat, which the prosecutors agree that he did not, and say that the governor said Obama could go F’ himself….

                  so again where is the lie and wrong doing?

                  • WildChild

                    nobody is aware of the investigation until the arrest is made public. So BOBo saying he wasn’t aware is meaningless. But being a soon to be president elect means
                    BOBO is in the loop. Calling the governors office would be a conflict of interest yet BOBO was talking about it like it was an option. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

              • Ferd Berfle

                You can parse crap as fine as you like–it is still crap.

                • Dude

                  yeah, but just not Obama’s crap

                  • Ferd Berfle

                    yeah, but just not Obama’s crap.

                    Now you’re getting it, Dudley–That One’s crap is already parsed down the the molecular crap-level, so you’re right, it can’t be parsed any further.

          • mary

            hey dude,

            go suck a Kool-aid “hotrod Youbetcha Blagojevic” they sell them at the Obama Counter…right OUTSIDE the Exit sign at the White House!

      • pamOBSP

        Obama was one of the leaders of Rod’s campaign in 2003 for Gov. You can not rewrite history, they have the film and I have notes from meetings.

        • TeakWoodKite

          pamOBSP, Oh do “show and tell”. LOL.

          BO should not have lied about this. It makes him look like the IGIT he is.

          There is nothing wrong about having a conversation about who fills the senate seat between the Governor and BO. I don’t care about the horse trading either.

          I do care when I am lied to and the proof is like the emperors clothing… Hell is where BO is going for all of them he’s told.

          • Dude

            he did not lie about anything. read the quote above. he was asked a question about whether he knew about the investigation and he said that he had not been in conversation with governor about that…

            • WildChild

              BOBO didn’t “remember” Tony Resko tourd his house. Amazing what a little sworn testimony can do to jog the memory of a certain junior senator from Illinois,

              • Dude

                who cares about Rezko? doesn’t mean a thing in the grand scheme of things?

                • WildChild

                  Who cares about BOBO? He doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things either. But you have to admit it is funny how his memory is faulty up until the sworn testimony is given….

                  • Dude

                    wouldn’t be the first

                    • WildChild

                      remember when Hillary mentioned sniper fire? That was a twelve year old memory. BOBO’s memory of resko was much more recent but you eviscerated her and are giving him a pass. Yet BOBO’s buddy resko is a criminal.

            • http://deleted Buzz Latte

              Dude, your meager IQ is showing. Read up on Operation Board Games and, at the least, the myriad of posts regarding the Nov. 5th conversation between Obama and Blagojevich.

            • mary

              DO NOT RESPOND TO “DUDE”

              ‘DUDE’ POSTING HERE AN OBAMABOT GOAT!

        • Dude

          who cares if he supported the governor in the past? he was a democrat from the same state. why should that be surprising

          • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

            I care. He’s supporting criminals and he knows damned well what they are up to. Why? He’s involved in the filth of the Chicago Machine himself. Are you this blind? Fraudbama was CREATED out of this frigging SEWER.

            • Dude

              why do you assume he knew what the governor was up to…?

              • WildChild

                why do you assume that BOBO was the only politician Blah blah didn’t mention a deal too?

            • lorac

              Yeah, he ran on a hope and change platform, he is transcendent – how does that fit in with lifting not one finger to report the fraud and corruption that IS Chicago politics? How does turning a blind eye jive with being hope and change? (doesn’t)

              I’d actually go a step further – it would be absolutely miraculous that one person was able to rise from the Chicago swamp (and rise awfully quickly, don’t forget), with clean hands. I don’t believe for a minute he is clean.

            • NoBamaNoWay

              exactly. i’m so sick of the “who ares” attitude. i am sick and tired of america being run by crooks, while the rest of us work hard, play by the rules, and are still one paycheck away from deep shit.

            • NoBamaNoWay

              exactly. i’m so sick of the “who cares” attitude. i am sick and tired of america being run by crooks, while the rest of us work hard, play by the rules, and are still one paycheck away from deep shit.

          • Donna Brazile

            But That ONe is so PRISTINE!

            Stop the hate!

            • Ferd Berfle

              A pristine bs artist is still a bs artist, though, Donna.

          • mary

            DUDE

            GO POST ON OBAMABOT SITES. YOU’RE FUCKIN’ BORING, ASSHOLE! ENOUGH!

      • http://deleted Buzz Latte

        Whitewater is not relevant to the conversation here. The continual connections made between Obama and the Chicago combine is what is relevant.

        Also, the fact that Obama cannot be honest, as pointed out by the article, is especially troubling. The association of Obama and Blagojevich is well known, as is Obama’s rise through Chicago politics. Obama chose Chicago, remember.

        This is no longer a little game for Obots to pretend they can make word plays and twist the subject.

        Own your candidate, his true history, and his karma.

        • Dude

          where exactly has Obama not been honest?

          so what you are saying that anyone that comes from Chicago is not qualified to be president? a bunch of BS.

          • WildChild

            I will stand with you in your fight to oppose telecom immunity……

          • Ferd Berfle

            so what you are saying that anyone that comes from Chicago is not qualified to be president? a bunch of BS.

            Stop generalizing, dud. That One is who we are talking about and, yes, he is unqualified, unfit, and dangerous. And you’re a sucker who fell for his line of bovine excrement. You need to stop blindly following the herd and try thinking outside the Obox.

            • Dude

              what the commentator above infers is that if you rise through Chicago politics then there is something wrong with you. compete BS!

              what exactly is know about Obama’s rise through Chicago politics?

              • WildChild

                BOBO sat in a a racist church for twenty years and couldn’t remember anything untoward discussed there. LOL there’s that faulty memory again.

              • Ferd Berfle

                A better question to ask, would be what we know about That One, irrespective of Chicago and its politics, which amounts to a big, fat zero. He’s unqualified because he has no real history. If you have anything to share of his history that can be independently verified, please do.

                By the way: Chicago is well known for its dirty politics. To deny that is to deny reality.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Obama has been about the most scrutinized candidate for president ever.

        Lisa, do you need a parchute?

        • lorac

          OMG. How can they say those things with a straight face? The least vetted candidate is the most scrutinized candidate?

          It’s downright scary to think people who live in bubbles are allowed to vote.

    • stodgie

      there is a report just out that jackson is #5. hehehe

      • PKJayne

        oh dear, a windgust is hitting the house of Cards.

        let me gird you for the next press conference……

        “That is not the Jesse Jackson Jr I knew. I am saddened and sobered once again.”

  • benny

    Obama is lying. And ignoring the problem, as usual. He has to come out and make a substantive statement regarding this scandal. If he doesn’t, this will hang over his head during the entire presidency. What an incompetent president-elect.

    • sfhillary

      Don’t make me laugh.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/10/us/politics/10chicago.html

      Not only does this scandal not touch Obama, the emerging story shows that he contributed to the Governor’s downfall by strongly encouraging a stronger ethics law in Illinois.

      • MissTickly

        Obama and Blago met in Chicago to discuss his replacement on November 5 according to this story dated Nov. 5. Dork. Or is this reporter liar, too?

        http://www.connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

        • sfhillary

          So what? Why shouldn’t Obama have that meeting? And what does that meeting have to do with Blago rushing to get contributors to give him money before the law (which was encouraged by Obama) changed on January 1st?

          • AngryWhitePerson

            Because Obama said he NEVER discussed the matter with Blago. What is it you do not understand????

            • Dude

              discussed what matter exactly? and where precisely does Obama say that he never discussed an issue with the governor?

          • MissTickly

            Because he LIED yesterday and said he had not talked to him about it.

            You’ve grown apathetic.

            • Dude

              that is complete BS. go back and see the interview that you are refering to.

              Asked by a reporter if he was aware of the allegations involving the pay-to-play tactics to fill his Senate seat, Obama said: “I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening, and as I said it is a sad day for Illinois. Beyond that I don’t think it’s appropriate to comment.”

              He was talking about the investigation and not whether his people talked to the governor about obama’s seat.

              • Donna Brazile

                Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!

                Stop the hate!

              • WildChild

                ah so then BOBO did talk to blah blah about his seat.

                • Dude

                  we do not know if he did or not, but even if he did who cares? why does it matter?

                  • WildChild

                    It matters because BLAH BLNH was looking to make a deal, an illegal act. If BOBO and Blah Blah talked about a deal, and even if BOBO turned it down flatly. BOBO didn’t report illegal activity and he might get sworn is as the top law enforcement dude in the land. That’s why it matters.

                    • Dude

                      it is only wrong if Obama agreed on a quid pro quo, but as the prosecuters went out of the way to say, he did not, in fact they quote the Governor as telling Obama to go F’ himself.

                      and how do you know that Obama’s people were not the ones who ratted out the governor? there are rumors in the local chicago press that rahm ratted out the governor.

                    • WildChild

                      OMG are you serious (ROFLMAO) If BOBO had a discussion about an illegal act and didn’t report it, it makes him complicit. That one act makes his whole candidacy one big fat lie and you one big stuffed turkey. LOL just in time for the holidays.

          • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

            i believe my point to the story was exactly that. why does he lie about a meeting that would be SO obvious to have. one that was reported to have happened, one that axelrod said happened, one that the media said happened, but obama flat out denies it happeend. THAT was my point.

            • Baba Rum Raisin

              Compulsive liars lie even when there’s no need to or or gain in doing so. Generally, if they catch themselves telling the truth, they tell two or three lies to make up for it.

          • MissTickly

            Obama was tipped off. He knew the pay to play was going on. Lying sack of shit.

            • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

              i think so too.

          • nancy sabet

            you moron, ussien obama said he did not discuss the matter with this crook.

          • Bigtime

            Obama is a liar. < That is the point, dumbass.

            • Ferd Berfle

              He lies so much he can’t remember what the truth is. That One: “I’m not the Obama I used to know…er..he’s not the Governor, ah, I used to be…um, where’s my teleprompter”.

          • Ani

            Then why did he deny having it?

            Cherry picking your information does not work here.

            Clearly Obama said he had not spoken to Blago. But they met Nov 5. And subsequently, they spoke, accordingto Axelrod.

            Which is it?

            • Dude

              I assume you are refering to the question Obama was asked about the investigation. He was saying that he did not know about the investigation because he had no contract yesterday with governors office. where is the lye in that?

              Asked by a reporter if he was aware of the allegations involving the pay-to-play tactics to fill his Senate seat, Obama said: “I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening, and as I said it is a sad day for Illinois. Beyond that I don’t think it’s appropriate to comment.”

              • WildChild

                Just the reporter asking the question about pay to play mens BOBO was aware of the allegation. BOBO doesn’t need to call the governor’s office to get info about a case he could call the attorney general on and get a brief. . BOBO is showing a remarkable lack of curiosity about a case that affects one of his home town endorsers when BOBO might still become president. It’s almost like BOBO is afraid to know anything.

                • Dude

                  sure he was aware because it was all over the press.

                  • WildChild

                    The quote you gave had BOBO saying he wasn’t aware. So I guess you supplied your own specific evidence that BOBO lied about something is regards to BLah Blah.

              • TeakWoodKite

                I assume

                oops..Dude, where’s my Dell?

      • lark

        He was strongly for it before he felt strongly against it. We need not fear him. He backs up ethics but he is against the wrongful use of ethics to prevent progress.

        He is a strong moral tower in wheels.

      • LDW

        September 12, 2008
        “While Barack Obama left an imprint on two major ethics packages as a state senator, he ducked a plea Thursday to use his influence to safeguard landmark state legislation barring big government contractors from making campaign contributions.”
        - http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1159383,CST-NWS-leg12web.article

        • lorac

          Yeah, one of those “ethics reforms” was the rule he spearheaded that lobbyists have to stand when they eat with those they are lobbying.The big “ethic reform” didn’t remove the huge lobbying influence, it just made them stand up.

          I’ll bet a Harvard degree was worth THAT earthshaking reform.

      • TeakWoodKite

        Don’t wan’t to make you laugh, SFHillary.

        He lies. He bammboozles and then you have the audasity to suck his *&^% and tell everyone else it’s the best thing that ever happened to you.

        BO and ethics are not ever to be found in the same space and time. EVER.

      • Obama “YouBetcha He’s HotRod”

        SFHILLARY

        SHUT THE FUCK UP, ASSHOLE! OBAMA IS A FRAUDULENT ANOREXIC RESUME WHO ‘MADE’ BLAGOSHIT!!

        OBAMARAMA IN 2002 WAS ON THE ADVISORY COMMITTE OF THIS JERK.

        OBAMA MADE DEALS WITH BLAGO FOR YEARS IN CHICAGO’S DIRTY SEWER POLITICS!

        get lost, you impecunious dunderhead! And quit
        using SF HIllary! You’re distusting! SHut the hell up, sexist jerkovich!

    • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

      benny, under normal circumstances of a non-adoring press I would agree with you. As it stands now, he could stick his naked ass out a window in the Oval Office and proceed to moon the nation, and he would not have to apologize or address his actions.

      Opampers reminds me of children when they won’t admit to stealing the treat from the cookie jar. I guess its a good thing we have Grampa Biden to look after wittle baby Barry?

      Will this media teflon wear off? Yes I think so. After 9/11 Buah could do no wrong as far as the media was concerned. And now Bush is a leper. Not even the king of the OBorg will remain in favor forever.

      If I was advising Obama as of today, I would advise him to come clean on the phone call himself, and not via some chicken shit statement issued after the fact by a spokesdroid. What is he afraid of? The media loves him. I guess its that cookie jar thing?

      • Katmoon

        Or, he may be one of those folks who cannot admit, period. Sort of like magical thinking; if I don’t admit to thus and such, it never happened.

        Galt are you a Jungian analyst?

        A psychologist returned from a conference in Aspen lodge, where all the psychologists were permitted to ski for free. Her husband asked her, “How it went?”. She replied, “Fine, but I’ve never seen so many Freudians slips.”

        • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

          Galt are you a Jungian analyst?

          Nah, just a critical thinker with no axe to grind. I’m calling things as I see them. I honestly want the guy to stay in his highchair and let the adults around him run the nation. BO is clearly not ready to lead. Just maybe he even knows this now or will see it eventually. Surely his handlers know this already.

          I was against Bush for 8 years and it looks like I will be against another president for 4-8 years. Once again I join the ranks of the loyal opposition, but not as a member, per se.

          I am fiercely independent normally, but did consider myself a PUMA after my vote was made meaningless by the chicanery during the primary. Now I return to full independence.

          I’ll save Moss the trouble: Yes Moss, I am indeed being very introspective today, as I begin to determine the next course in my path. :shock:

          • Katmoon

            Galt you are introspective today, I was fooling with you, but I am out of practice. I am now free from finals, finishing the last of 6. I am with you on full independence, it is no longer question who who I will support as in party or person, or by a single issue. I am only interested in those who choose to represent our country, all of us included, otherwise. THWT.

            • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

              I took no offense to your comment. :) I was going to be introspective anyway today. And the Moss comment was because he said I was being introspective the other day. I’m with you on the independence on the voting.

              I’ve known most of my life there was something “missing” which was behind the global problems we see. I’ve also known there just could be a way to address this. So I shall return to my lifelong quest now that this election is thankfully kaput. :mrgreen:

        • Fancy

          You’re right, I’m thinking they must be petrified, too.

          I guess people like Cheney and Bush also engage in magical thinking, but are, or were, much more sophisticated in terms of acting, or covering up, on the world stage.

          Axelrod, for all his physical similarities to Hitler, strikes me as a frightened, timid, blubbering whale of a man, so frightened he can barely control his bowels.

          This is just Chicago, though, remember all those contracts Obama, and the others, had, or have connection to, in terms of Iraq?

          John Kass made a comment today in his column describing the Iron triangle of IL corruption, republicans on one side, democrats on the other, and the Chicago outfit as the base — outfit as in mafia.

          And “the outfit” is international.

          Somehow, those guys don’t strike me as up to playing hardball with the mafia, whether out of Chicago, or Russia.

          Tsk tsk, life is hard, isn’t it?

          But they did it to themselves.

          I mean, for instance, the Russian mafia is essentially headed by Putin, right, given the corruption?

          And though I can expect the CIA, and the mitlary to protect the US against Putin, I can’t see them protecting a stupid corrupt American politican against Putin.

      • Baba Rum Raisin

        >>> As it stands now, he could stick his naked ass out a window in the Oval Office and proceed to moon the nation,

        THAT little show might cause the Tingling Sensation to migrate from Matthews’ leg up to his heart and cause an M.I.!

        • TeakWoodKite

          his naked ass out a window in the Oval Office

          I hope Pat makes a art piece of this one.

          • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

            If he does, please make it an extreme distance image and spare us the horrors of a close-up of the zits on his butt! :shock:

      • Ani

        Yes, Galt, but we cannot afford to wait another eight years before Obama becomes a leper.

        The press gave Bush a free pass for so long it did devastating damage to our nation and our world reputation.

        • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

          Yes, Galt, but we cannot afford to wait another eight years before Obama becomes a leper.

          I agree. I and others publicly opposed Bush when it was not popular to do so, but things took their course. I’m not saying anyone should wait 8 years to act. :mrgreen: And I am not saying necessarily that you were saying I was not saying that. :shock: Well, you catch my drift.

  • Tuppence411

    “You betcha,” said Obama.
    Oh that cracked me up. Made my morning.

    But another phrase of Governor Palin on the campaign trail keeps playing in my head: ” What is it about Obama, what do these cast of characters see in HIM, that make them gravitate towards him?”

    • Sonic Ninja Kitty

      The power of desiring to be right–don’t underestimate it. Hope trumps reality.

      • Baba Rum Raisin

        Hope in one hand, Poop in the other…see which one filles up first.

  • AngryWhitePerson

    “Asked what contact he’d had with the governor’s office about his replacement in the Senate, President-elect Obama today said “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.”

    Wow. So basically, Obama, you were completely oblivious and disinterested in who took over your Senate seat. Why? Just didn’t give a shit? Good to know.

    • snosandy

      Just like he was unaware of what his pastor was preaching on the weeks he didn’t attend church.

    • lark

      “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.”

      How exactly do people lie? Law enforcement officers experience each day a barrage of lies from a large number of people. People lie, even under oath.

      How do some become master lying? How do they learn the soft trick of evading mea culpa?

      • TeakWoodKite

        Because this affidavit is submitted for the limited purpose of securing a criminal complaint and corresponding arrest warrants, I have not included each and every fact known to me concerning this investigation.(#12,p7 criminal complaint.)…

        and;

        Minimization procedures were implemented 1 during the interception of conversations at the Friends of Blagojevich offices and over phones. At times, these minimization procedures were stricter than required under law so as to avoid intercepting certain potentially privileged conversations.(footnote1,p9 criminal complaint)

        Question; If the US Attorney’s office has more buckshot AND “certain potentially privileged” conversations are being caught…who is doing the talking?

        I would say “Stay Tuned” in light of BO saying “Hot Rod” should step down, BO thinks sayin Zippity Do Dah,Zippity Do Dah” will make it so. Hot Rod is going to drop a Barak on BO.

        • lark

          That sounds like what his lawyer would tell him.

  • http://www.madinthemiddle.blogspot.com churl

    Actually, this reminds of the birth certificate stuff– it should be very easy to put this fire out, unless you happen to be the fuel for the fire.

  • KintheNorthwest

    Where Obama made his mistake was not admitting that he talked to the Governor about his seat. Hey it was no big deal doing that. The big deal was if he was in on the buy….But now everyone is going to think he was in on the buy.

    Im just wondering how many more lies the public is going to take from this guy.

    When the news first hit about Ayers, Rizo, Wright and a few others he said he knew nothing and then OPPS…

    Doesnt Obama realize that eventurally even his supporters are going to stop and wonder what is up.

    • Peggy Sue

      I’m sure Obama will be “saddened and sobered” when the trance wears off. Guess the crowd will be due for another injection of Happy Juice, the stuff that makes you believe that Barack Obama, a product of Chicago’s sewer politics, closely linked to all the major players, is indeed pure, above it all, the lone man of principle and character.

      What a load of BS!

      It’s going to be a long, long four years! And yes, I think the denial of meeting with the Gov. over the Senate seat selection was a huge mistake.

      Of course, now the President elect can say he “misspoke, that his words were inartful and unfortunate.”

      Just words, again.

  • S. Markom

    Great piece!

    Blag specifically said on tape:

    give this “motherfucker [the President-elect] his senator. Fuck him. For nothing? Fuck him.” ?

    What did he mean by “his?”

    It would seem to me that Obama did have a preference and did tell the Governor otherwise why state it the way he did?

    Yesterday Obama was emphatic that he had NO conversation with Blag over this Senate selection and any reasonable imterpretation of what was recorded would say that Obama is lying.

    • snosandy

      Watching Obama answer that question at the press conference reminded me of when he went on all the news shows after the Rev. Wright tapes came out and denied ever sitting in church when his pastor was preaching racist hate. He had the same look on his face as he lied through his teeth.

      • misstickly

        He always glances to side when he lies, he did it yesterday, too.

        • tek

          Just like Bush always got that shi**y grin on his face when he was lying.

    • TeakWoodKite

      S. Markom, it was communicated to “Hot Rod” that BO wanted a piticular choice and that HE,Obama, was dictating the terms of any deal.

      Rod was pissed at BO setting terms of the deal. Knowing Blogo was “hot”, BO could not make the ‘quo’ part of the deal, without being recorded and no doubt indicted sooner than later.

      These conversations have been on going re:Obama senate seat, I would say for months. Alot of tape can roll in that time span.

      @American Girl In Italia, motto bella!

  • jwrjr

    The only appropriate comment for PEBO to make is “rather than disrespect the Office of President of the United States, I resign effective immediately.” BTW, what the hell is “the Office of President Elect of the United States”?

    • PKJayne

      BTW, what the hell is “the Office of President Elect of the United States”?

      It’s the soundstage where Barry can play act at being POTUS. He can have his faux seals and pretend he is the greatest President Evah!

      • JustMe

        Oh gee if this was not so damn fake it would be so laughable…

      • Baba Rum Raisin

        I once had a faux seal, but the smell of all the herring I had to keep around to feed him and his constantly splashing the water out of the bathtub made me get rid of him.

        That, and he was tone deaf…couldn’t play, “Yankee Doodle,” on those silly bulb horns.

        • PKJayne

          lmao Baba………thanks for the giggle

    • elliewyatt

      He has had a “presidential schedule” (not senate or campaign) since at least 2007.

      Meet The Press- Nov. 11, 2007

      SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.

      • PKJayne

        There is something seriously wrong with this guy.

        • csuzeq

          Why do only some of us see that? (shaking head)

      • TeakWoodKite

        Where was Obama on Monday October 6, 2008? Anyone?

        I will buy a meal of your choice from Galt’s Pizzaria.

      • TeakWoodKite

        elliewyatt;

        If everyone has access why can’t I find where he was on October 6th, 2008? It was a Monday, didn’t he go to meet with the FBI around then?

        I got this far Thursday, October 02, 2008;

        Two FBI agents spent more than an hour in the Will County Office Building on Wednesday morning as part of an investigation into an elected official.

        That person seems to be Will County Executive Larry Walsh. Matt Ryan, his chief of staff, also is part of the probe, sources say.

        The official apparently is Walsh. Ryan has — or had — some relationship with Smith Dawson and Andrews, the lobbying firm hired in 2006 at a rate of $10,000 a month to help Will County snare more federal grants and funding. The association is related to his work with the lobbying firm Performance Communication Group.

        … The lobbying firm has secured quite a bit of federal funding for the county, including money to clean up and modernize the water and sewer system in Joliet Township’s Ridgewood neighborhood; to do engineering work at 143rd Street and Interstate 355; and to add laptop computers to the squad cars driven by Will County police.

        “Kiss me card” from Obama for the Holidays

  • OG

    Isn’t it strange how bo still does not have a single character reference? Not one person came forward from his college ‘daze’ and said he was an upstanding kinda guy. Not one person from his law cronies came fwd and said that he is all that.
    I still find it curious that he supposedly graduated magna cum laude from Hah-vahd Law and yet cannot speak off-the-cuff.

    • PKJayne

      OG, I have always found this very strange. It’s like this guy came out of no where. I find it a tad scary myself.

    • S. Markom

      OG – I told a friend of mine who is a leading executive recruiter that imagine a top 500 corporation retained you to find a CEO.
      Imagine that you came back to them with a candidate who had good educational pedigree (although refused to grant permission to get transcripts), but had no chief executive or even senior executive experience, and could not produce a single business or character reference. That is who we hired to run our country. It still gives me chills.

      • skinny malinky

        McCain and Hillary Clinton would have had the same holes in their resumes.

        • Ani

          Uh, no dear, that is not true.

          • skinny malinky

            What executive experience have either McCain of Hillary Clinton had?

          • PKJayne

            Not true by a long shot.

        • Obama “YouBetcha He’s HotRod”

          SkinnyMalinky

          Obama is not deserving, in term of his fraudulently inspired Chicago ‘career’ and anorexic resume, to begin to shine the shoes of McCain or Clinton!

          Obama is an inadquate, overly promoted Brit Spears in pants. Now shut the hell up!

    • skinny malinky

      There was a Frontline documentary on both candidates where several of Obama’s fellow Harvard Law students and colleagues from the Law Review spoke very highly of him. It was a really good documentary, too; the stuff on McCain’s time as a POW really brought home the suffering he went through. Anyway, people have spoke up from Obama’s past; some with good things, some with bad.

      • JustMe

        I’d like to watch this can you point us in the right direction? Not one word expressing these colleagues on the primary run or GE landscape.

        All about the skies opening and a power would come down and immerse the ones who were looking at Hopey, Changey to make life better and pay their bills.

        Please post a link or direct us where we can view this.
        Frontline documentary? It must be heading to the movies to be the next movie to rake in millions??

        • skinny malinky

          Frontline is a PBS documentary series. Here’s the link to where you can watch the one on McCain & Obama:

          http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice2008/view/

          If you watch chapter 3, His Path to the Corridors of Power, I’m sure you’ll be able to hear people from Obama’s past praise him there.

          • JustMe

            You mean

            Pete Rouse
            Tom Daschle
            David Mendell
            Cassandra Butts

            We are looking for friends in school and as he was growing up not people he aquainted getting to run the world..

            This shows nothing than the people he rubbed shoulders with in goverment.

            • JustMe

              “acquainted”

              “government

          • TeakWoodKite

            Was the frontline piece where they showed his “speech” in chicago? The one no one filmed?

      • SF

        I didn’t watch that episode so I cannot specifically comment on that; however, I have watched other Frontline documentaries and have often found many to be, at best, 2 dimensional. The episode that comes to mind is the “Medicated Child”.

        • SF

          the “Medicated Child”

          The Medicated Child

      • AF catfish

        I saw that documentary it was very good – they covered Obama shoving all those opponents off the ballot, and the only Harvard classmates they found were a couple women, actually I only remember one woman, an asian woman from Harvard law, she said he was a nice guy.

  • Elliott

    Every single action that these Chicago machine pols participate in requires a payoff of some sort. Money is their number one motivator but they can’t usually come out and use cold hard cash. They prefer to give each other do nothing jobs like on hospital boards, education “challenges”, corporate director boards, labor union advisory committee, PR contracts, public outreach directors of university hospitals, trucking contracts,and the favorite of the last few years, buying and selling each other real estate. It is a rats nest and the wire taps must be eye crossing. I see why Fitz called it Operation Board Games.

    • Fancy

      Thanks, — it’s still graft, they just dress it up in a different way.

      You made it easy for people to understand.

    • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

      Elliot
      You are correct ….and for a young nobody Barack to rise fast in that environment (not to mention his wife too ) they would of had to play the game …dirty money dirty people dirty politics…. and this is my government in action…I am sick!!!!

    • tek

      Reminds me of Tom Delay’s K Street.

  • http://www.partizane.com NewHampster

    The real question that needs to be asked. (stolen from user RalphB on my blog)

    What didn’t Obama know and when didn’t he know it?

    • mountainaires

      RalphB, thank you so much for that quip. I’m going to use it as a sig–with your name, RalphB attached, of course. NewHampster, thank you for all your work, as always.

  • HARP

    I think Governor Rod Blagojevich just stole 4 delegates from # 5 candidate.

  • I’m a Linda too

    RUH ROH!

    It looks like Barack lies so much, it’s unavoidable and does it without thinking now.

    First we have Blagojevich saying Obama only wants to give his appreciation for seating Jarrett as Senator. And then Axelrod admitting they spoke about the many names possible for Senator.

    Then Obama gives press conference saying he never spoke to Blago about it. Then realizing his own people already confirmed he DID, they called him a liar…figuring the indictment of a charged dirty politician is just one claim. lol

    Who will fill Obama’s senate seat?

    Ill. governor meeting with Obama today
    By Carol Sowers
    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

    CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

    That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

    He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

    Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement.

    There’s already been speculation about his selection…from Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. of Chicago’s south side who co-chaired Obama’s presidential campaign, to recently-retired state senate president Emil Jones, to the governor himself.

    It’s likely the governor will make his decision quickly so the new senator will get some seniority before newly-elected senators take office in January.

    http://www.connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

    • Wordy Nerd

      Sorry, there is nothing at the link. Given “No Quarter’s” history of fabrication, no one in their right mind would accept your word that the news story ever appeared. And even if it did, the content of this alleged article reported that such discussions were to take place, not that they did take place. And there’s no attribution of the information.

      I do realize that “No Quarter” and assorted dead-enders have never cared about checking their sources, but other people do. So keep on crying, kids. Meantime, the adults are getting ready to welcome a new president. Boo-hoo!

      • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

        why don’t you read the article i wrote, and not just come here to insult people. IF you would have read the article, you would see that the media scrubbed that story from there site, and there is a screen shot of it in my post.

        There was a story they were going to meet, and a follow up story that they did meet. And they have both been scrubbed, but there are screen shots of them.

        I do realize that “Obamabots” and assorted dead-enders have never cared about the truth, but other people do. So keep on crying, kids.

  • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

    Well we tried to warn people and they did not listen…they’re not listening still….THE POTUS elect is a lair liar liar and things will get worse not better for him ..that is how Karma works….
    Can you say President Biden?????????

    • wodiej

      such intelligence in this country. Voting for a incompetent, dirty pol like Obama and he will go down and then we’ll have Biden who got what in the primary, a few thousand votes?? And Obama’s opponent got millions but she will be the SOS?

      • snosandy

        It’s pretty sad that more than 50% of the voters sat there with their hands over their ears singing “la la la la la, I can’t hear you,” when others tried to tell them that they really don’t know the person they were voting for.

  • lark

    Saddened and sobered? This sounds familiar…

    All I know for sure is that this seems to be a song and dance I have seen and heard before.

    Get used to it. It will be the standard he uses in the next four years and probably the theme for his 2012 electoral campaign.

    Saddened and sobered

    Saddened and sobered

    Think about it. Have you ever known a habitual pathological liar? How do their days go by? What do they feel when their lies and their deceptions to others and to themselves do not pan out?

    Saddened and sobered.

    • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

      Sounds to me like Favreau wrote those “speeches” too, given they are basically the same…

      GREAT post, American Girl!!

      • snosandy

        America has been hoodwinked and bamboozled.

        • Baba Rum Raisin

          Again.

        • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

          as usually

    • benny

      sobered? I thought that he was only on cigs. Hes taken to booze now?

      • lark

        sobered does not mean repentant. It is a feeling of depletion and emptiness that comes as necessary before the brain reengages in the routine of the addiction. It is the same as saying ‘hungry.’

        Saddened and hungry. Which translate as ‘saddened and with a big appetite for a another dose of deception.’

        • skinny malinky

          Sobered doesn’t mean hungry and you know it. Christ, now you’re changing the English language to bash Obama; how pathetic.

          • Fancy

            You reiterate the same methodolgy in your defense of Obama, over and over — smear, discredit, blah blah blah.

            Do you kind of see how people can use it against you, once they understand you use a static model?

            Meaning, it’s OK to defend him, but maybe you should try original thinking.

            Or maybe you do think like this, who knows.

            • skinny malinky

              Fancy, are you telling me that sobered means hungry? The methods I use on this board are mainly using logic to point out how hyterical some of the posters are. Someone making up new meanings for words to try and posit that Obama is some sort of pathological liar is ridiculous and pathetic in my eyes.

              • http://deleted Buzz Latte

                But can you see yourself as the same pathetic obot because you think that Obama is above reproach?

                • skinny malinky

                  I don’t think that. He’s a man, and thus by definition imperfect. He’ll make mistakes, and he’ll do things I don’t like, and I’m sure he’ll tell lies and do many of the things politicians do. Some of these I’ll be willing to live with, some of them may be too egregious for me to stomach; I can’t really predict what’ll happen. But he’s not above reproach.

                  That said, Buzz, your comment has nothing to do with someone’s asinine attempt to twist the English language in a pathetic attempt to slam Obama.

                  • lark

                    The English language is a twist. Actually Obama is the twister in charge now. All we can do is untwist what he so cleverly twists.

                  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

                    Nor does it excuse your need to continually downplay the situation.

                    You like your views, skinny. It doesn’t mean they are the correct or irrefutable truth.

          • interested party

            skinny malinky (or slim tyranny?)

            lark did not say hungry means sober.
            She said:
            “It is the same as saying ‘hungry’ (in quotation marks)”

            The argument here is that Obama is ‘addicted’ to lying. His “sobriety” is the interlude between lies – and a play on the word “sober”.
            One would assume you think Obama is not a liar. This whole thread is about one instance of lying. If Obama’s statement isn’t a lie, please explain why?

    • Ginger

      The sobered refers to how scared he is because he doesn’t know what Tony AND Rod will squeal about now……

      Obama must be eating antacids like candy about now.

      Which one will spill the beans about Obama? It’s a sprint to the finish now…….

      • lark

        Saddened and sobered is a recurring feeling Obama has. Probably every morning he wakes up like that. It is one of the few truths he can muster to say out loud. He will always feel that way from now on, specially since from now on he will have to put a face to the news of the day and find out that what he said and did before does not match reality.

  • The Robot

    Well there you have it: Obama denied talking to blagojevich – Axelrod and news reports verify he DID. Obama is lying.

    Obama is so used to lying it is his habit – but he’s thus far always been able to dance around his prevarications with nuance.

    But the spotlight may too bright at this level – Obama may be revealed the bamboozler he truly is before he even reaches the gate.

  • OG

    Wonder if Blago is gonna use the “liar, liar pants on fire” defense?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fffu2QVvlCk

    • snosandy

      Blago seems like he is the kind of guy who will “sing like a canary.”

  • KarenG

    If you want to know how Obama will be brought into this…you need to follow the ball on Illinois Senate bill 1332. I can’t believe Obama isn’t shaking in his little President elect boots. Go
    spend some time on Cannonfire where he lays out a lot of information on this and links to Evelyn Pringe who also did a lot of investigative research on Board Games. It is interesting to watch all these
    chickens we have been hearing about here in Chicago begin to come home to roost…..

  • syc1959

    Another Obama lie;

    Obama stated “I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so I was not aware of what was happening”

    http://www.connecttristates.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=217582

    Who will fill Obama’s senate seat?
    Senate seat up for grabs

    Ill. governor meeting with Obama today

    By Carol Sowers
    Wednesday, November 05, 2008 at 10:39 a.m.

    CHICAGO, ILL. — Now that Barack Obama will be moving to the White House, his seat in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois will have to be filled.

    That’s one of Obama’s first priorities today.

    He’s meeting with Governor Rod Blagojevich this afternoon in Chicago to discuss it.

    Illinois law states that the governor chooses that replacement.

    There’s already been speculation about his selection…from Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. of Chicago’s south side who co-chaired Obama’s presidential campaign, to recently-retired state senate president Emil Jones, to the governor himself.

    It’s likely the governor will make his decision quickly so the new senator will get some seniority before newly-elected senators take office in January.

    Part of the timing depends on when Obama officially vacates his senate seat.

    KHQA’s Alexis Hunt is speaking with Illinois Senator John Sullivan today about his thoughts on that replacement process, his time working with Obama in the state senate, and if there’s a chance Sullivan might play a role in the Obama administration. Watch KHQA News at 5:00, 6:00 and 10:00 p.m. tonight to hear what he has to say

  • mel

    Questions become more obvious as to the answers with the release of Blago’s charges:

    1st- Who did Obama seek to take his Senate seat? Jarret!

    2nd-Who ratted out Blago? Daley’s people!

    3rd- What do Daley and his people, Harris and Jarret all have in common? 2016 Olympic Games for Chicago.

    Now what has the Olympic commitee stated as major concerns in having the Games in Chicago? Chicago has failing and poor infrastructure.

    What has Obama stated he will spend Billions on to rejuvinate in his stimulous package? Infrastructure.

    By Obama not having his choice or the chicago Combines choice sitting in his Senate seat weakens that much more the ability for Chicago to obtain pork belly money in the Billions from the Feds for infrastructure work needed to secure the 2016 Games. Blago telling people connected with Daley “fuck Obama’s choices for just an appreciation of thanks” was Blago’s nail in the coffin for him politically.

    Anyone thinking this isn’t about the big bucks of the Olympics not for Chicago, but for those in the Chicago Combine are fools. Everyone on Obama’s commitee for election to POTUS has millions to gain from the Games being in Chicago, most funded by the Feds.

    Will the MSM ever report on this, NEVER! Why because the MSM has millions upon millions at stake for their pockets if the Games are in Chicago, whereas if they are anyplace elese, their profits from the Games is reduced by 60%.

    • mel

      Oh one more note, the Loop area that Rezko and Auchi own is a stones throw from the proposed venue areas for the 2016 Games. That makes the land they have to develope worth far more than it is without the Games in Chicago.

      • Kal

        And so is huge chunks of land now owned by the Ayers brothers.

        And so is BO’s Rezko mansion — BO himself said on Chg tv June 3 or 4 ‘my house will be within walking distance of the games’ — he got his own private piece of the pie too, with Auchi’s money filtered through Rita Rezko’s name and with the personal assistance of Tony Rezko putting the whole deal together.

    • Five Thirty

      2016 Olympic Games for Chicago
      Interesting!

  • Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Thank you, AGII, for sticking mainly to facts, here. This story and all it’s subplots are creating a lot of glee amongst the non-Obots, and fair enough, I guess, but I’m really feeling a weird sadness as they all come out. I mean, truly, how are we ever going to get this country on the right path and make it strong for our children again? And forget about terrorists–we’re way too busy cleaning up our own human garbage. When will it ever end?

    • lark

      how are we ever going to get this country on the right path and make it strong for our children again?

      As I see it, what makes us strong is our appetite for the truth and reality and what makes us week is our appetite for deception and illusion. The struggle is what makes the tension either a formidable allied or a formidable foe.

    • Peggy Sue

      Sonic Ninja, I share your despair. You want to talk about “saddened and sobered,” I’m there already. I wish the situation was different, and I truly take no glee in knowing that the house of cards we’re all living in is on the verge of tumbling down.

      But to continue the charade that is PEBO does none of us any good. There are bad winds blowing through this country and around the world. If we refuse to speak up for the truth, to demand the same in our public officials then we deserve what we get.

      I don’t know where any of this is going to go, how the country will get back on its feet. But I know we cannot lie our way into fiscal solvency or national security or pretend that this hopey-changey meme will get us there.

      We cannot lie our way into heaven, unless our intention all along was hell.

      • lark

        Bush spent the trillions and Obama the quadrillions.

        Capisce?

  • nancy sabet

    I can’t believe how many gullible people fell for the Obama CHANGE machine. Can you imagine any positive change coming out of the Chicago political machine? But people just don’t seem to care when it comes to Obama. He is eqivalent to Jesus to most of his supporters and they will just ignore any negatives about Obama. He has a checkered past with associations with terrorists and anti-American radicals and ministers, his huge but highly suspicious campaign finance machine will not be audited, even though there are millions in questionable contributions, he does not have to present a valid birth certificate even though witnesses place his birth in Kenya (just let an independent judge see the original document that is all it would take to clear up any questions), if he promises one thing and does another or says one thing and then denies it no one cares.
    I have never seen anything like in except in some third world countries. Even the press won’t investigate him and in fact most national news reporters act are actively supporting him. It is just weird.

  • Bill

    As a ctizen of Illinois, I apologize to the rest of the nation for my state’s sorry politicians. I am at least vindicated in not voting for Obama or Blago. I did all I personally could to stop Obama being elected. At least now the rest of the nation will get a better understanding of the cesspool that is Chicago style politics.

    • benny

      Not your fault, Bill. But do us all a favor. Get all the politicians there, throw them into a prison, and loose the keys. :)

    • Baba Rum Raisin

      It’s OK. Here in Southern Nevada, we consider Chicago pols to be the Junior Varsity.

      We do, though, know how to lock OJ up.

    • http://tojo toni

      Apology accepted, Bill. :)

  • Judy

    The Real Barack Obama website has been reporting for months on this, and no one listened.

    I am saddened that the American voters are stupid!!!

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      i listened.

  • Lisabona

    Lies are like a labyrinth. Without noticing you get dipper and dipper, with no end. Obama, the president-elect lies will never end. His lies,started from the day he was born, and will last to the end of his life. His every day life, must be an infern. I don’t envy him. I pity him for the life he choose to live.

    • lark

      The only one that could cure him would be Michelle and she likes him that way. Laura loves hers as infantile as he is.

  • skinny malinky

    Just a quick note, courtesy of Politico:

    Obama emerged personally untarnished in the 78-page Blagojevich complaint. He was, to the allegedly deeply corrupt governor, the “mother***er” who was owed no favors and a lily-livered reformer who, instead of a bribe, wouldn’t give the disgusted Blagojevich “anything except appreciation.”

    • Strawberrybitch

      How can you live with yourself? Barky lied again. He has no honour. You are defending a liar. What does that say about you?

      • skinny malinky

        I’m providing a news source that indicates so far, Obama isn’t really involved in this. And I live with myself rather well; thanks for asking.

        • Ani

          Politico has been in the tank from Obama from the beginning, as has the majority of the media — they are ALL running to protect him at all costs, and ergo, their own sorry reputations.

          Clearly, Obama has contradicted himself on this- -that’s just for starters. Since Rezko is Blago’s bag man and was for many years Obama’s political benefactor — you cannot pretend there is no link there whatsoever — see Rezko Land Deal re Obama’s house.

          Obama may not have offered pay for play in this instance, but there is no way his hands are clean and you know it. Further, why deny he met with Blago on this and spoke with him when the record shows otherwise.

        • Steve1

          Sorry, that same old song is not going to work anymore! He is not even prez….and has developed a huge credibility problem. HE LIES< a LIAR! Pity our poor country who will suffer fools such as yourself! You would have been a excellent Richard Nixon, supporter!

    • oowawa

      Yes, I have no doubt that he will remain “untarnished,” standing tall and radiant above the Chicago political cesspool that spawned him. All hail!

    • lark

      So he gave him appreciation and he came out untarnished? Nice try.

    • lark

      Appreciation means approval.

      Obama: “uh uh uh hmm I like what you are suggesting. uh uh uh Good for you. uh uh uh I like your stile. uh uh uh Nice line of thinking you got there. uh uh uh I can appreciate it. uh uh uh Maybe you can give me some tips after I get to the WH. uh uh uh Why don’t you schedule a visit to the WH for Jan 21st. at 9:00 a.m. uh uh uh You have always been my favorite.”

    • Karma

      Except that part where the Gov was asked to ‘suck it up’ for a couple of years and still give Obama his pick ‘for nothing.’

      ;)

      http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/12/fbi-blago-tryin.html#comments

    • Karma

      Oh and that other part where he essentially describes Michelle Obama’s financial situation for his wife.

      Along with an organization stuffed with millions that the Gov doles out to rehab his political career.

      Which sounds a lot like the CAC position Obama held before he ran for office.

      But beyond that…there is nothing there…lol

    • http://deleted Buzz Latte

      Do you know the workings of a legal complaint? The complaint is against Blagojevich, therefore Obama would be a separate issue. If Obama is found complicit then there will be a complaint filed against Obama, separate issue.

      The point is that Obama is known to be the ‘mother-effer’ therefore linking him to the possibility that he IS involved. If there had been NO taped discussion or NO mention of dealing with Obama, then Obama might be clean. But, since Obama IS known to be involved, and has been on record of being involved since Operation Board Games began, he’s not off the hook.

      To think otherwise is unsophisticated and juvenile.

      • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

        i also think that the fact that obama knew he was corrupt back in 2006, and he STILL endorsed him speaks volumes.

        • http://deleted Buzz Latte

          Absolutely> Obama also knew that Rezko was under investigation, yet he chose to continue to do business with him. A “boneheaded” move or just being a part of the Chicago corruption?

          Obama is not clean anyway you look at it.

          The picture of Obama, dejected and troubled, on the Drudge Report site is perhaps the most telling indicator that Obama knows he’s in deep, deep trouble.

          Contrary to what the pollyanna obots want to believe, this can only go bigger and nastier for Obama.

  • chinchon

    Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan called on President-elect Barack Obama Wednesday to disclose any communication he has had with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who was arrested Tuesday for allegedly attempting to sell Obama’s Senate seat.

    “President-elect Barack Obama’s carefully parsed and vague statements regarding his own contact and that of his team with Governor Rod Blagojevich are unacceptable,” Duncan said in a statement.

    “Considering the severity of the allegations against Governor Blagojevich, the President-elect should immediately disclose any and all communications his transition team has had with the governor’s office along with any Service Employees International Union (SEIU) officials involved in the matter. Obama’s promise of transparency to the American people is now being tested,” he added.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16427.html

    • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

      Obama’s promise of transparency to the American people is now being tested,” he added.

      I hope Mike is not holding his breath on BO honoring a campaign promise. :shock:

      • PKJayne

        Galt I hope you have extra popcorn handy.

        • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

          Always! ;)

    • PKJayne

      Oh it’s going to get good…..maybe this why he cancelled everything today?

  • fif

    We have been watching this same song & dance for months: the continual lying that is accepted at face value and not confronted by the press or anyone else. Small and big lies alike. I can still see him during the NH debate when HRC (or Edwards?) revealed that his campaign manager was a pharmaceutical lobbyist. Without hesitation, he lied, shaking his head, “That’s not true, that’s not true.” I was shocked that he lied, flat out, in the middle of a nationally televised debate, and there was absolutely NO follow-up. Of course, his state campaign chair was a lobbyist. Since he gets away with it, it is always his first reaction.

    That’s just a small example of the many times he has lied and obfuscated to avoid any responsibility. I scoff at the notion that he is a great leader. Leaders step forward and state the truth, even when it’s uncomfortable. Not once, have I seen him display real political courage. His “war speech” was a pander to a liberal district, and he never did another thing. His race speech (always a speech–no action!) was a desperate attempt to save his own imploding campaign due to Wright.

    He denied knowing about Rezko being investigated (when apparently everyone in Chicago knew for 2 years) when he struck the land deal with him. He denied knowing that 11 of Rezko’s buildings were condemned in his own district (built with funds Obama funneled to him). He denied that he had a longstanding relationship with Ayers (“a guy in my neighborhood”). Either he’s a oblivious to what’s going on around him or a liar–neither qualifies him to run this country.

    • Ani

      fif,

      Well stated. It really is shocking he has come this far, being that he has exhibited this kind of behavior.

      • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

        Not so shocking. Those of us who come from alcoholic families are intimately aware of how much liars and crazymakers can get away with because people have a hard time really believing that someone screwed with their heads.

        I liken America to one huge dysfunctional alcoholic family where most Americans are co-dependent and making excuses for the alcoholic, with a few of us “black sheep” standing up for the truth in the face of the crazymaking.

        • Margaret

          I so agree with you. This is denial on a massive scale. I wonder how many who are intoxicated by Obama have not healed from their own dysfunctional family backgrounds, so are falling for the drug addict who reminds them of their parents.

          In fact, those who are in la la land about Obama may be addicted to him the same way people get addicted to drugs. Like any addicts, they will listen to no reason, because they will let nothing come between them and their drug.

          This is family dysfunction/addiction on a national scale.

          And how many of us who see right through the BS about Obama were the truth tellers in our own families, and scapegoated for it?

          • stodgie

            margaret, they also say in aa “don’t try and kid and old kidder.” barky isn’t nearly as good as he thinks he is. the press and voters however are as bad as we think they are. however, karma has a big ole truck and she is driving toward barky slowly but surely.

          • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

            Quite a few of the Obamabots I know, who are rabid in their Bush hatred and stubborn in their Obama support, are alcoholics. The friend of mine who dumped me over my not supporting Obama had recently confessed he had a drinking problem.

            I think a lot of these guys push their problems out onto Republicans and cling to their Obama support as a huge source of self-identity and self-worth. This is why you see Obamabots coming here, completely unable to take a balanced view of the man and admit he might have some faults.

        • AF catfish

          So THAT’s what makes us immune! I wondered what we all had in common:

          Not so shocking. Those of us who come from alcoholic families are intimately aware of how much liars and crazymakers can get away with because people have a hard time really believing that someone screwed with their heads

          That crazymaking in particular can be quite a pickle, and disguises itself quite well.

        • ILBlue

          Hillary or Bust..

          Your explanation is outstanding and unfortunately I must agree with you 100%.

          • MBC

            You nailed it Hillary or Bust. Lived it and can spot it a mile away. How do we get the rest of America to break this denial, co-dependency, whatever?

  • Bronwyn

    American Girl

    If you haven’t already, you should send the story about Barky meeting with Blago far & wide. Tapper, Brian Ross of ABC will now pick it up.

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      I haven’t. I am too chicken. hahah

  • politicsIsdirty

    So it is either Pres elect is lying about him knowing about the pay for play offer from Blago or one of his advisers knew about it and did not tell him.

    The bottom line is either Pres Elect is culpable or one of his adviser is culpable.

    Let us all wait for part 2…MSM, am I going to learn more about this?

  • candymarl

    To hear Obama tell it he never knew or met anyone. How did he do that community organizer thing? I mean, did he walk the streets telling himself to vote for him?

    The man has no associations except for the Indonesian school that taught him everything he knows, as a child, about foreign policy.

    He also knows nothing of political corruption but let’s not mention cousin Odinga and all of those pesky dead Kenyans said cousin is responsible for.

    This would be funny if it wasn’t so creepy.

  • Steve1

    Mr. Barry Soetoro, sat in on church for twenty years, Trinity, didn’t know what Rev Wright was saying! What, OK, Tony Rezko, didn’t know, Ok, Acorn fraud, didn’t know, now he wants us to believe that he didn’t speak with Gov. Blago???????SAY WHAT! This guy can’t get away with all of this crap.

  • sjc-tx

    Once Blago learns they will shave his head in prison, he’ll singggggggggg!

    • oowawa

      But…But…Once they shave his head, he won’t look nearly so cute without his poofy hairdo! He’d better HOPE they shave his head first thing!

    • stodgie

      blago will even hire his own band for his performance on american sellout! it is supposed to be quite popular in dc this year. many will watch with great concern we hire from the sponsors. he and the fat lady practice their lyrics quite often now.

  • Bronwyn

    American Girl

    Rush just talked about the Barky/Blago meeting on Nov. 5th as reported by a Quincy IL station.

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      what did he say!?!?!?!

  • Bronwyn

    American Girl

    Rush just talked about the Barky/Blago meeting on Nov. 5th to discuss senate replacement as reported by a Quincy IL station.

    • Brian

      You listen to Rush? I’m shocked!

  • Bronwyn

    I didn’t hear it, but this was posted on camille:

    “Rush is reporting a Quincy, IL station on Nov. 5th said that Obamarx was meeting with Blago that day to discuss it and ….drum roll, please….it’s a top priority of his (just like everything else is)”

    • lark

      Then he said, ‘is my top priority but not my super top priority. there is also hyper top priority extraordinarily top priority and infinite top priority. So it is a high priority but not so high priority.’

      • http://tojo toni

        ROFL you forgot super duper top priority

  • Bruce

    Does anyone here remember Harry Truman, the “Senator from Pendergast”? Truman came out of one of the most corrupt political machines ever seen in this country. Yet, 60 years after his election to the presidency (and many more after he went to the Senate and then became Vice President and elevated to President by the death of FDR)no one has ever found an instance of him doing a corrupt act. Nevertheless, Truman is on record offering many statements of appreciation of Tom Pendergast, who essentially died in prison.

    Obama appears to have many similar qualities. He was not raised on Chicago politics but in a much more idealistic environment. Like Truman, he used the bosses and the bosses used him. Even corrupt political bosses need an untainted politician from time to time, although it makes them grind their teeth.

    As with Truman, it’s embarrassing for Obama to sit through things like this; but it’s pretty evident that there’s not a lot of actual crap waiting to fall on him.

    • http://www.hillaryorbust.com Hillary or Bust

      Obama is no Harry Truman. Harry Truman did not start his political career in the home of an American-hating radical hippie terrorist, nor did he go to church where a crazy preacher taught hate and anti-Americanism for 20 years.

      But go on, living in your denial, you codependent. (See my comment above about most Americans being codependents making excuses for the “alcoholic” we allowed to be our president.)

    • oowawa

      You’ve convinced me. If you’re clever enough to crawl out of the corrupt political cesspool that spawned you, natural selection favors you to evolve into something great.

    • stodgie

      bruce, you are frigging kidding or so drunk on koolaid you are beyond disgusting. truman, HELL NO! obama can’t shine his shoes!

    • Karma

      Too bad for your story, Obama’s children are living in an example of daddy’s corrupt ways.

      If anything, the person who was embarrassed sitting next to Obama was Al Gore.

      When Obama offered his statement, you could see clearly that Gore didn’t want to be there.

      Geez….even the media whore Biden looked like he didn’t want to be in the shot where Obama lied about the Gov.

      • Galt’s Psychoanalysis

        Maybe the demons are coming for these evildoers ahead of schedule? :shock:

      • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

        I thought Gore looked miserable, too. It was like *oh god, not more scandal!*

    • AF catfish

      I don’t recall Truman compulsively lying like this. Or buying a mansion beyond his price range with the help of a man publicly under investigation by the US Attorney’s office, whose shenanigans were widely reported in his own hometown papers.

      Remember “Rezko is a friend of mine. If he is found guilty, he will no longer be a friend.” Always thought that was a strange quote – so blatant.

    • AF catfish

      George W. Bush’s supporters think Dubya use that Truman comparison a lot.

      Obama supporters have already started, and he hasn’t been sworn in yet!

      • JustMe

        It is going to be like who will I be today JFK? Lincoln? Oh no today I will be Truman. JFK tomorrow and maybe when I wake up Monday I will be Lincoln….

        Who is this man who thinks he is everyone but himself….

        My goodness what a sham.

        Guessing he don’t like being himself I wonder why!

  • Donna Brazile

    But, but, but— Obama is so PRISTINE!

    Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

    Stop the hate!

  • chinchon

    I think Obama is next hand cushed by FBI although at this stage FBI would not want to say any connections between Blago and Obmama.

    I cannot wait to see until this happens!

  • mountainaires

    My favorite is Jesse Jackson Jr’s response to questions about him being “candidate no. 5″ in the FBI affidavit:

    bwahahahahahahha…Oh, Schadenfreude! Oh, Schadenfreude! [hummed to the tune of "Oh Tannenbaum"]

    According to the FBI affidavit in the case, Blagojevich “stated he might be able to cut a deal with Senate Candidate 5 that provided Rod Blagojevich” with something “tangible up front.”

    Jackson said this morning he was contacted Tuesday by federal prosecutors in Chicago whom he said “asked me to come in and share with them my insights and thoughts about the selection process.”

    Jackson said, “I don’t know” when asked whether he was Candidate No. 5, but said he was told “I am not a target of this investigation.”

    Jackson said he agreed to talk with federal investigators “as quickly as possible” after he consulted with a lawyer.

    bwahahahahahahahahahaha…!

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/ConductUnbecoming/Story?id=6431739&page=1

    • Fancy

      Knowing he was being taped, ala “the whole world is listening” remark, I can’t help but think Blago set ‘em up, ALL of them, figuring if he went down, they ALL go down.

      Maybe…

    • PKJayne

      Jackson said he agreed to talk with federal investigators “as quickly as possible” after he consulted with a lawyer.

    • FranSC

      If JJJ IS Senate Candidate # 5, then he did agree to Pay-to-Play, according to the report, and he will become part of the investigation. Jesse Jr is the most racist AA holding political office today, as per his dispicable Obama campaign tactics as the “Race Man”. I hope he gets what he deserves – which is NOT a senate seat.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    You know, I was just thinking – how bad must Blago have been for AXELROVE to not want to work on his gubernatorial campaign??? Just sayin’…

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

      I know! haha

  • Brian

    The best part of all this is, Obama is going to POTUS, and no amount of fantastical mouth-breathing on No Quarter is going to change that.

    Enjoy being the fringe again, it suits you all well.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      Enjoy the crappy life your dumbazz just votes for. In six months you will be here listening to ALL of us say “I told you so.” I guess you just hate America too much to respect our laws, Constitution and freedoms. Hopefully you and your Obot friends will move to a climate more suitable for you, like CUBA.

      • skinny malinky

        OIAF, what if the country in doing better? What will you do then? I know don’t think this will happen, but it’s certainly a possiblity, right? So what’ll you do if Obama does improve the country? Will you apologize, embrace him, admit you were wrong?

        • Donna Brazile

          Skinky:

          Maybe when he stops smoking like he promised.

          Stop the hate!

        • lark

          Look, it is simply impossible now for Obama to improve the country in six months by the way this is beginning. This is not a baseball game or a game at all. It is more a mathematical logarithm. If it starts wrong it will get worse. There is no one that can save Obama now. He will become President and he will have to respond to the news of the day on a daily basis. When that happens the dollar will begin to sink, Congress will begin to bleed, chaos will increase exponentially, SCOTUS will resign, Chavez and Adhmadinejad will visit, a new Constitution will be proposed, all private property will become state property, China will confiscate Hawaii, food will be dispensed at WalMart on a Soc Sec number priority list.

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Skinny…are you really young? If so, and you are really just a dopey wide-eyed kid, then I’m sorry for you. If you are in fact a scumbag troll you deserve what you get.

          Fraudbama isn’t going to make anything better. He really doesn’t want to anyway. His agenda now is 2012 and his second term. Too bad for him he won’t make it through the first one. His policies, if you can call them “policies” will destroy this country. There is NO hope that he will make anything better. To be honest, we’re so screwed that no one could make it that much better overnight. Thanks to the Dems for Fannie and Freddie. Nevertheless, Fraudbama knows nothing, doesn’t care about doing the work and never has, and I have little faith in the Clinton Third Term he is pushing on us. He also has some serious judgment issues, some mental flsws, including a wacked out ego, that will prevent him from truly doing good for us and will cause him further self destruction, as well as destruction of this country. This is America. He has already shown his hatred and disdain for who we are. Many of us, in fact 50 Million, didn’t vote for the Fraud. We love America and would like to preserve what is left of it. Fraudbama only shares goals with the most left of the wing nuts to destroy any and all American traditions, principles, freedoms, critical documents, etc. He’s the worst thing to ever happen to this country and will go down in history as a worse President than Bush. IF he gets to the White House and IF he stays there.

        • TeakWoodKite

          embrace him ???

          The entire culture is controlled by a group of ‘lawgivers’ known as “The Body” which is, in turn, controlled by the omniscient Landru

          Star Trek

          No thanks.

      • Zeke

        OIAF,
        Like I said to ya yesterday, he hasn’t put his right hand in the air and his left on the Quran just yet.
        Saint Fitz is cleaning the land of Snakes and Blag’s tenor is going to harmonize well with Tony’s.
        However dim, keep fanning that flame of hope…
        Obama hasn’t reenforced the mass programming much lately via teleprompter speech and the buzz is wearing off.
        :)
        “My dream is of a place and a time where America will once again be seen as the last best hope of earth. ”
        Abraham Lincoln

        • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

          Zeke,

          Thanks for the hope. I love this country so much that I can’t IMAGINE Fraudbama could EVER get to the WH with what everyone knows about him. I mean, COME ON AMERICA. Get the Fraud and his ugly nasty filthy pitbull wife and boot them out of here. Enough trashing of this country. ENOUGH.

    • lark

      The fringe is where everything happens and condensation occurs. I love it. Remember pressure and release.

    • Fancy

      He’ll be a crippled Presidemnt, the same as Bush.

      How very sad for you that you fail to understand.

      He’s in hell, and it will get worse.

      Same for the wife.

    • Pennsylvania Red

      And look around you Brian, there are so many of us mouthbreathers, we’re 57 million strong, doncha know?

      And wtf can you imagine some of the “fringe” isn’t willing to play nice with your messiah-guy:

      GOP opposes auto bailout: Oh those pesky Republicans

      Looks like the 0ne doesn’t have the mandate the MSM promised him…

      And if you don’t get that 0bama is going into his presidency already hobbled…well then here I have another spot of Hopeychangey tea to dispense…

  • Reno Annie

    Many people seem to think that the fact that Blago wasn’t going to get anything other than appreciation for a certain choice for senator, exculpates Obama. What I want to know is, if Obama NEVER talked about the senate seat with Blago, how does Blago know he wouldn’t get anything for this appointment? Wouldn’t someone HAVE to have talked to Blago about it in order for him to be so mad he called Obama a motherf***er?

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      ding ding ding

      did you see obama’s newspaper interview today? he categorically denied talking to Blago about this. When asked if anyone from his staff, including Rham talked to him, Obama said he couldn’t comment because of the investigation. So, in other words, yes.

      Obama is trying to get around this by saying he never talked to him, but yet, his staff sure as heck did.

      • Dude

        who cares if his staff did talk to the governor about how would take his seat. it makes logical sense that they would. nothing wrong with that. it is only wrong if he agreed to a quid quo pro for the seat, which the prosecuters go out of their way to say he did not and in fact the governor said that obama could go F’ himself.

        there is also a good chance it was Rahm to ratted out the governor to the feds, as the local chicago press is reporting.

        • WildChild

          BOBO talks through his staff. If his staff knows, then BOBO knows.

        • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

          then tell that to Obama. god, you people can be SO annoying. Obama LIED about it. WHY??????????????????????????????????????????

          And NOW they are friggin scrubbing the internet to cover his ass.

          “Asked what contact he’d had with the governor’s office about his replacement in the Senate, President-elect Obama today said “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.”

          Quit trying to parse it, and cover for him. That is not what happened. He was asked if he had contact with Blago about the senate seat, and he said no. Then they went on a massive CYA saying Aselrod was wrong, and now they are scrubbing all the news reports that they DID meet.

          God, obamabots are SO annoying! OPEN YOUR EYES!

  • lark

    Enough distractions.

    Obama to begin his President of the World campaign as soon as he is inaugurated on Jan 20 using his full name during swearing ceremonies.

    Skinny, expect the world to be getting better soon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081210/pl_afp/uspoliticsobamadiplomacyislam_081210083044

  • socalannie

    Great article! Loved the part in the beginning where you bring up the long list of people Barky has associated with & then becomes disappointed in!

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

      thanks! :OD

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  • ipotter

    THE LINK TO THE NOV 5 ARTICLE IS NOT WORKING! DO YOU HAVE A SCREEN SHOT? Thanks.

  • EWard

    fif

    Kudos to your post! Great analysis about the lies of BO. These trolls need to return to their pods.

  • The Robot

    Well those b***ards scrubbed it didn’t they?

    • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

      they did! rat bastards! Thanks for the screen cap – I just saw your comment. I found it on TD’s blog before I saw yours. Man! those guys are shifty!!

  • The Robot

    Here’s a screenshot of the now scrubbed story on BO meeting with Blagojevich.

    http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y258/FredNerks/BlagnOMeeting.jpg?t=1228947789

    • Ferd Berfle

      That is too good. The bots are going to hittin’ the wagon varnish pretty hard tonight.

      • WildChild

        It’s bad when independent media outlets are scrubbing their own record of history. It makes you start to think they are not so independent.

        • Ferd Berfle

          I agree. I was saying good to The Robot posting it so the screeen shot could be saved elsewhere.

          • TeakWoodKite

            Obubbles in the tub, scrubbing again?

            Thanks Robot.

            What do you call a lie accompanied by a suspension of disbelief and internet soap?

            Obama.

            • Patrick Henry

              Barack Schultz Obama..

              “I KNOW NOTHING..”"

  • Fancy

    Damn, isn’t that web scrubbing thing getting a little embarassing for them?

    They’re only fooling themselves.

  • nacht

    hmmm…the news scrubbing reminded me of 1984 by Owell

    from: http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/articles/col-1984quotes.htm

    Book One, Chapter 3

    “If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say this or that even, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death.”

    “And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’”

    “Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary.”

  • mimi

    Oh please, WAKE ME UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE!

    I’m listening to Axlerod and 0bama contradict each other on Hannity and then Hannity produces a picture of 0bama meeting Blago Dec 2nd, as 0bama admantly denies ever having contact with Blago.

    What’s wrong with America? Why did they elect this guy????

    • Ani

      I’m still spinning and will continue to do so — I just don’t get it either.

  • lori

    If anyone copied the missing video at this site (fox video is now removed)http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/10/thats-not-the-blagojevich-i-thought-i-knew/ ould you please post or forward! Thanks Fairflight

  • lori

    If anyone copied the missing video at this site (fox video is now removed)http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/10/thats-not-the-blagojevich-i-thought-i-knew/ would you please post or forward! Thanks Fairflight

  • lori

    If anyone copied the missing video at this site (fox video is now removed)http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/10/thats-not-the-blagojevich-i-thought-i-knew/ would you please post or forward At democratic-disaster.com ! Thanks Fairflight

  • Ani

    AGII,

    Fabulous article. Well done.

  • wodiej

    great post Sara….lots of hard work for your NQ comrades….

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  • Magic Puzzle Box

    This guy is going to negotiate for us with terrorist states? He’s either guilty as all get out or so naive he’s dangerous to himself and others. Love the troll combat, by the way. I’m new to blogs, and it’s very instructive.

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    If you all are upset about this, you should contact Leo Henning, regional vice president for Hoffman Estates, Ill.-based Barrington Broadcasting, which owns KHQA. His contact is: lhenning@whoitv.com