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		<title>By: shargash</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the pictures I&#039;ve seen, it is NOT the real bin Laden. The biggest clues are in the hair &amp; beard. The fake bin Laden&#039;s beard is very full on the apples of the cheek. The real OBL&#039;s thinned out before stopping entirely. As you get older, your beard does not get fuller. Also, if you look at the hair around the temples, the fake OBL&#039;s hair descends at right angles to the brow, while the real OBL&#039;s hair angles back towards the ear. Again, your hair does not get fuller as you get older.

The only remotely plausible explanations that I can think of are:

1. The beard is fake, but the OBL is real. OBL had some disease that caused his hair to fall out (maybe he&#039;s undergoing chemo). Facial hair in men is an Islamic religious observance, so maybe OBL put on a fake beard (and fake temple hair) so as not to allow his appearance to detract from his message. In any case, that is not just a dye job.

2. The beard is real, but the OBL is fake.

Supporting #2 is that the nose doesn&#039;t look right, bulbous rather than aquiline (but maybe OBL broke his nose somewhere along the way). Also the talking points he uses are more like what a wingnut blogger would put in OBL&#039;s mouth than what a Salafi radical would say.

Tentative conclusion: the video was fabricated by amateurish neocon elements, perhaps related to the same ones that fabricated the yellowcake memo (Michael Ledeen was in on that one). The US government knows it is fake, but is telling everyone it is probably real because they like the message it delivers. Most likely, elements of the US government were active parties to the forgery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the pictures I&#8217;ve seen, it is NOT the real bin Laden. The biggest clues are in the hair &amp; beard. The fake bin Laden&#8217;s beard is very full on the apples of the cheek. The real OBL&#8217;s thinned out before stopping entirely. As you get older, your beard does not get fuller. Also, if you look at the hair around the temples, the fake OBL&#8217;s hair descends at right angles to the brow, while the real OBL&#8217;s hair angles back towards the ear. Again, your hair does not get fuller as you get older.</p>
<p>The only remotely plausible explanations that I can think of are:</p>
<p>1. The beard is fake, but the OBL is real. OBL had some disease that caused his hair to fall out (maybe he&#8217;s undergoing chemo). Facial hair in men is an Islamic religious observance, so maybe OBL put on a fake beard (and fake temple hair) so as not to allow his appearance to detract from his message. In any case, that is not just a dye job.</p>
<p>2. The beard is real, but the OBL is fake.</p>
<p>Supporting #2 is that the nose doesn&#8217;t look right, bulbous rather than aquiline (but maybe OBL broke his nose somewhere along the way). Also the talking points he uses are more like what a wingnut blogger would put in OBL&#8217;s mouth than what a Salafi radical would say.</p>
<p>Tentative conclusion: the video was fabricated by amateurish neocon elements, perhaps related to the same ones that fabricated the yellowcake memo (Michael Ledeen was in on that one). The US government knows it is fake, but is telling everyone it is probably real because they like the message it delivers. Most likely, elements of the US government were active parties to the forgery.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: People First Politics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 6 Years Later: Osama bin Laden is still free.</title>
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		<dc:creator>People First Politics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 6 Years Later: Osama bin Laden is still free.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Johnson agrees with my take, though he beat me to the analysis this time. On his blog he calls it The Bin Laden Video Nonsense and complains about this bin Laden&#8217;s dyed beard - Grecian Formula for facial [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Johnson agrees with my take, though he beat me to the analysis this time. On his blog he calls it The Bin Laden Video Nonsense and complains about this bin Laden&#8217;s dyed beard &#8211; Grecian Formula for facial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, years ago I said Bush was using a live Osama as a fear ticket to get what he wanted. This is Still the case.

How do you have a fifty year war on terror if you kill all the leaders right off the bat.

Ain&#039;t that right, Yasser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, years ago I said Bush was using a live Osama as a fear ticket to get what he wanted. This is Still the case.</p>
<p>How do you have a fifty year war on terror if you kill all the leaders right off the bat.</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that right, Yasser.</p>
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		<title>By: Detroit Sam</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  a total boycott of OBL and Zawahiri messages by mainstream media.

This will never happen because this same main stream media serve as tools for Bush/Cheney and the reich-wing republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  a total boycott of OBL and Zawahiri messages by mainstream media.</p>
<p>This will never happen because this same main stream media serve as tools for Bush/Cheney and the reich-wing republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bin Laden and Bush are two sides of the same coin.  As Dr. Evil said so memorably to Mini Me in one of the Austin Powers movies, you complete me.</description>
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		<title>By: Blunt Force Trauma</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cali, ask yourself how many times are the presstitutes are going to (and have) recycle(d) the &#039;Al Qaeda is gaining strength&#039; thing?  All this garbage is regurgitated ad nausem to keep the public scared and believing in the &#039;boogey man&#039;.

The only thing gaining strength is the repetition of the lamestream media&#039;s lies which are usually planted stories via the White House.

A couple examples are below and you can find your own by simple research.  I have found that same headline and story going back 3 years.

A story from July, &#039;07:

http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=071107_al-qaeda_as_strong_before_9-11.htm

A New York Times story from February, &#039;07:

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/02/ny_times_alqaeda_gaining_stren.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cali, ask yourself how many times are the presstitutes are going to (and have) recycle(d) the &#8216;Al Qaeda is gaining strength&#8217; thing?  All this garbage is regurgitated ad nausem to keep the public scared and believing in the &#8216;boogey man&#8217;.</p>
<p>The only thing gaining strength is the repetition of the lamestream media&#8217;s lies which are usually planted stories via the White House.</p>
<p>A couple examples are below and you can find your own by simple research.  I have found that same headline and story going back 3 years.</p>
<p>A story from July, &#8217;07:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=071107_al-qaeda_as_strong_before_9-11.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=071107_al-qaeda_as_strong_before_9-11.htm</a></p>
<p>A New York Times story from February, &#8217;07:</p>
<p><a href="http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/02/ny_times_alqaeda_gaining_stren.php" rel="nofollow">http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/02/ny_times_alqaeda_gaining_stren.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Osama Bin Laden in G. W. Bush &#124; Milan&#8217;che</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osama Bin Laden in G. W. Bush &#124; Milan&#8217;che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Waiting in Texas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After watching CBS&#039;s Sunday Morning, Lawrence Wright was interviewed and he is the author of the Looming Towers - haven&#039;t read that book, but ordering on Amazon as soon as I get done here. The book I read about John O&#039;Neill was by Murray Weiss, which PBS also aired a special on Weiss&#039;s book and O&#039;Neill.

I stand corrected that Bin Laden was 6&#039;4 and needed  daily dialysis. I read that he did need dialysis when he had Hepatitis C. 

However, I still believe that our government knows right where OBL is and always has. But, there has just never been an appropriate time to roll him out - too much time has gone by and I think most people would see right through it. My the Bush Adm has gotten themselves into &lt;em&gt;such a pickle over that one!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching CBS&#8217;s Sunday Morning, Lawrence Wright was interviewed and he is the author of the Looming Towers &#8211; haven&#8217;t read that book, but ordering on Amazon as soon as I get done here. The book I read about John O&#8217;Neill was by Murray Weiss, which PBS also aired a special on Weiss&#8217;s book and O&#8217;Neill.</p>
<p>I stand corrected that Bin Laden was 6&#8217;4 and needed  daily dialysis. I read that he did need dialysis when he had Hepatitis C. </p>
<p>However, I still believe that our government knows right where OBL is and always has. But, there has just never been an appropriate time to roll him out &#8211; too much time has gone by and I think most people would see right through it. My the Bush Adm has gotten themselves into <em>such a pickle over that one!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt; Someone order a gross of Krispy Kreme donuts and we will ship them to Pakistan.

By the time each and every US company involved in the shipping, handling and customs brokerage and each tin-pot government functionary in Pakistan gets done taking &quot;a dash&quot; out of your gross of doughnuts, all Osama would be getting is two pounds of very stale crumbs and six tablespoons of sugar in a mangled box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Someone order a gross of Krispy Kreme donuts and we will ship them to Pakistan.</p>
<p>By the time each and every US company involved in the shipping, handling and customs brokerage and each tin-pot government functionary in Pakistan gets done taking &#8220;a dash&#8221; out of your gross of doughnuts, all Osama would be getting is two pounds of very stale crumbs and six tablespoons of sugar in a mangled box.</p>
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		<title>By: Waiting in Texas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PrchrLady - The one thing that stands out in my mind and I had a personal email chat with Larry about this some time back - the one thing I can never get out of my mind was reading the book about John O&#039;Neill and all of the obstacles that he faced in trying to capture Bin Laden to prevent a 9-11 from happening. It all goes back to my previous comment today about how everyone and everything is so compartmentalized and that is IMO what was happening to John O&#039;Neill.

PS. I saw someone post this comment a while back and I would like to reiterate this point: When the next President is elected and I feel certain it will be a Dem this time around, I hope he or she makes Valerie Plame head of the CIA. God Almighty, the dirty little neo-cons and a few others would be jumping out of windows.

Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, but &lt;em&gt;I want a front row seat!&lt;/em&gt; Have a great weekend everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PrchrLady &#8211; The one thing that stands out in my mind and I had a personal email chat with Larry about this some time back &#8211; the one thing I can never get out of my mind was reading the book about John O&#8217;Neill and all of the obstacles that he faced in trying to capture Bin Laden to prevent a 9-11 from happening. It all goes back to my previous comment today about how everyone and everything is so compartmentalized and that is IMO what was happening to John O&#8217;Neill.</p>
<p>PS. I saw someone post this comment a while back and I would like to reiterate this point: When the next President is elected and I feel certain it will be a Dem this time around, I hope he or she makes Valerie Plame head of the CIA. God Almighty, the dirty little neo-cons and a few others would be jumping out of windows.</p>
<p>Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, but <em>I want a front row seat!</em> Have a great weekend everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: PrchrLady</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments everyone~  I too have great doubts about the authenticity of this video, as well as it&#039;s timing.  I won&#039;t watch it personally.  But as I read all the comments here, I keep thinking about the Saudi connection in this whole thing... from pre 911 right up until today.  If we follow the money, and connect the dots, somehow bushie boy and OBL might even be working together.  They share some common friends, and those friends have gone under the radar of the MSM.

The Sauds, if there is war in Iraq and Iran, stand to have much power to be gained if the US takes on the entire ME... what is left of the region will be up for grabs, and the US will not benefit.  Except perhaps a few of Saudis &#039;special friends&#039;.  A terrible ugly thought, but bushco and his neocon friends are so capable of anything, I would not put it past them any longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments everyone~  I too have great doubts about the authenticity of this video, as well as it&#8217;s timing.  I won&#8217;t watch it personally.  But as I read all the comments here, I keep thinking about the Saudi connection in this whole thing&#8230; from pre 911 right up until today.  If we follow the money, and connect the dots, somehow bushie boy and OBL might even be working together.  They share some common friends, and those friends have gone under the radar of the MSM.</p>
<p>The Sauds, if there is war in Iraq and Iran, stand to have much power to be gained if the US takes on the entire ME&#8230; what is left of the region will be up for grabs, and the US will not benefit.  Except perhaps a few of Saudis &#8216;special friends&#8217;.  A terrible ugly thought, but bushco and his neocon friends are so capable of anything, I would not put it past them any longer.</p>
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