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Open Thread * PEBO & Censorship (Again)

Scrub. Erase. Obfuscate. Under the bus. Surrogate Axelrod, “I was mistaken.” I did not know. It’s sad. Scrub. Obfuscate. “Saddened and sobered.” Avoid. Erase. Rewrite. Scrub. Obfuscate. Toss under any moving vehicle.

Do read American Girl in Italy’s story, “that’s not the blagojevich i thought i knew – update again x2.” (It’s hilarious and monstrously infuriating all at the same time!)

The miniscule number of us who know PEBO’s modus operandi — you do realize, don’t you, how few of us have ever bothered to read enough to learn what he’s really like? — are never surprised by a headline like this, written by Ben Smith for Politico:

Blagojevich questions censored on Transition site

We’ve lost track of the number of times that items have been disappeared on Obama Web sites … our NoQuarterUSA archives are heavy with the screenshots of bygone Web pages, especially that one on the Iraq War that Larry Johnson covered at length in several stories, including What Will Barack Do About Iraq? . …

And now it’s your turn. Susan here: I’m working on a story about Bill Ayers’ appearance on Chris Matthews’ Hardball yesterday on MSNBC. It will go up roughly mid-morning.

I began it as a short write-up, with the video. But the rage built up so much in me that I had to keep writing and writing and writing.

Come back, will you? And we’ll talk about that interview later this morning.

And now, here’s an open thread for you — with my apologies for not getting one up sooner.

  • OBushMa

    Someday karma will catch up with him. Maybe he will be the first President to go to prison?

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Knowing how to take a screen shot of a webpage — or to save the webpage is really an important skill to have.

    The easy way cheap way if you are using a Windows (operating system) computer is to use the PrtSc — key near the end of the top row of keys. Just to make sure I hold down the Ctrl key and the PrtSc key — then I open a graphic program — the “Paint Program” that is included in the windows “Accessories” is very useful — open the Paint Program and click in the middle of the blank page and then press Ctrl key and the V key — and the image of what you captured will show up. You can save the page whole. You may have to use the print screen twice — once for the top of the page and again for the bottom of the page.

    Give the file a name you will recognize and save in a folder — specific to the web page or in a whatever your filing system happens to be.

    There are specific programs for screen capture — currently my favorite is OneNote — I just hit Ctrl (Control) P — and one of the options is to send the file to OneNote — the screen shot (whole page) then shows up in the OneNote program.

    With all the rewriting of history being done by the Obama crowd — it is always a great idea to get as many people copying the evidence to many different hard disks.

    Taking and keeping screen shots is very easy.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Sorry — I forgot the way to save a webpage is to hit Control S — (press the Ctrl key and the S key at the same time) — a menu will pop up on your screen — name the file something you will remember and then select “webpage complete” on the pull down menu of ways to save the page.

    Both Windows XP and Vista have this option to save “webpage complete”.

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  • http://donnadarko.wordpress.com donna darko

    Scrub. Erase. Obfuscate. Under the bus. Surrogate Axelrod, “I was mistaken.” I did not know. It’s sad. Scrub. Obfuscate. “Saddened and sobered.” Avoid. Erase. Rewrite. Scrub. Obfuscate. Toss under any moving vehicle.

    It’s funny. Before the ten pages of Blagobamagate coverage in this morning’s Chicago Tribune is a story on the top of the front page about Obama’s new race, befriending-Muslim initiative. When in doubt, talk about racism.

  • http://donnadarko.wordpress.com donna darko

    Racism was never a part of the primary or the election. It was all about class and gender. The manufactured financial crisis so that Obama would win and the class anxiety of upper middle class white males like Matt Yglesias whose biggest threat is white women.

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  • jvsp

    It must be difficult writing history ahead of time *scrub, scrub* for a bonehead like 0bama.

  • saving face

    I believe there will be an ebb and flow with regard to Chicagogate. But little by little Obama will become a weak President because of his own corruption and his lack of interest or enthusiasm in the problems of the people of this country. I would really like to see him succeed because failure is not an option for us ordinary Americans. But when I see him issue commemorative plates with his likeness as President elect I lose the belief that he actually gets it. I have always hoped for a better future for my kids and grandkids — now the guy who says he bringing me Hope has actually caused me to lose it.

  • kgirl1028

    honestly i think this is why they like the internet so much. It’s much harder to get rid of paper.

  • touchet

    Obama is already weak. As he has to blame more and more people for his lack of management or conduct, the more he will find opposition. To me obama IS Bush.

    This is what happens when you become an icon. Obama is too big for himself. He no longer runs the show, his Image does. People are starting to do things outside of himself, in his name, per se. I’m sure they are thinking, “this is what obama would want me to do”.

    This is what happened with Bush. Bush was first supposed to be the christain rights dream. The model of conservatism. Then 9/11 happened. He was supposed to be the christain hero then. Bush couldn’t controll the fake image he set up, it wasn’t real. But his staff believed it, but they weren’t president. They started doing thing behind his back. Then after a while it was all blamed on him utlimately.

    With Obama its ten times worse.

    As his image breaks down, you are gonna see the most hated man in history. I feel for the African Americans, because they are going to be the ones hurt by this.

    Imagine yourself as an older black person, you see the first black president take office. After awhile you realize he is not the image you thought him to be. How emotionally distruaght. For the white people that vote for him, he is just another politican that needs to go, for those who put their whole heart into it, its devestating.

    In their frenzy to do things to hold on to his image, they are going to things you and I and any sane person is going to be shocked by. The worse is yet to come. Once the illusion fades, desperation sets in. There absolutely no telling what Obama supporters are going to do. Youre real only hope is that obama has enough leadership skills to controll and know when to stop it.

  • JustMe

    its like getting the boobie prize…..UGH

  • Pragmatist

    so what? please explain the significance . ..

  • AF catfish

    When people are demoralized they become really vulnerable. (See: Germany, 1930s.)

    If Obama is a little bit better than Bush, he may only last a term but it might wake people up into not worshipping candidates.

    If Obama drives this country into more of a ditch than Bush did, who knows.

    Obama isn’t even that energetic! He brilliantly campaigned by keeping the attention on his opponents and ridiculing whatever they did, positive or negative. Mr. Cool.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie
  • ame

    Ha Ha! I just read under the Ben Smith comment section that Blago’s wife was the realtor for Obama’s house. Is this true?

  • an observer

    Mark Leonard, executive director of the Soros-funded European Council on Foreign Relations and founder of Tony Blair’s think tank, Foreign Policy Centre, in a column in the Fabian Society’s New Statesman, entitled “Dinner in New York with George Soros,” first brags of Soros’ recent brilliant political successes, and then cries about blocked access to the President-elect:

    “George Soros has invited me for dinner in his Central Park apartment… Soros has had an incredible year. He helped launch Barack Obama’s campaign for the presidency with an early donation; put forward a plan to deal with the financial crisis that many say was Gordon Brown’s inspiration; and he has a ringside seat on events in Georgia (Putin still blames the Soros Foundation in Tbilisi for causing the coloured revolutions in Georgia and Ukraine)…. “

    So, he makes pretty clear that Soros “launched Obama” ands his financial plan is London originated.

    He continues to whine about Soros’ loss of control over Obama: “The next morning I join the hordes of European diplomats descending on Washington…. But Obama’s people are not playing ball – he has forbidden anyone involved in the transition from talking to foreigners, so even my old friends on his team are cagey about meeting up.”

    Whom is he loosing control to? “His loyal camp has yet another reason to be nervous: the naming of Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. They thought they were in line for the best jobs, but now have to look on as Clintonistas are floated for key posts….”

    If Soros and his controllers are loosing control of their puppet, they may, like the cornered animals they are becoming, attempt to sabotage the take-over by eliminating him. History has shown that even a corrupt opportunist, such as Thomas Becket (or Obama?), can and has, “stepped up to the plate” when saddled with great responsibility. Simply remember, King Henry II had Becket assassinated for doing so! The timing of the Bogo scandal may indicate a shift in strategy on the part of the Soros crowd. In fact, if the main stream media starts paying attention to the BC/Records/Sinclair issues we should not be naive enough to think we bloggers caused it. We already know they are all totally controlled.

    In addition, Mark Leonard’s lamenting that the Russians have spoiled the British/Soros game with Georgia shows that Soros’ international influence may also be eroding.

  • Texas Playwright

    Keep on keeping on with the citizen journalism, team. It’s the only way to expose all this corruption in this country. Be interesting to see which MSM outlet “turns” on BHO and starts reporting news again. It will be for ratings and not moral/ethical/historical value, of course. If it’s news, it’s better than we’ve had for two years.

  • basil

    EXCELLENT ANALYSIS!

  • basil

    What does the PE in PEBO stand for?

    :oops:

  • PKJayne

    president elect

  • benny

    President-elect, or like I call it derelict-elect. :)

  • lizpolaris

    Censorship in Obotia? Absolutely – and the media is doing it on behalf of the new government.

    The video of the Fox News clip where Alexrod said Obama’s transition team was talking to Blago was pulled by YouTube so fast, I haven’t seen it – just read comments about what was said.

    Many more examples to come over the next 4 years by what laughingly passes for our 4th estate these days…

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy

    she was Rezko’s agent, that we know. i still haven’t found whether she actually negotiated the Lot purchase, or house. I thought I had read that before, but can’t find it right now. BUt she was Rezko’s agent.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy
  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ American Girl in Italy
  • Evolve and Learn

    Nov 5 – a chicago newspaper prints that obama is to meet today with the governor to dicuss his vacant senate seat.

    Nov 8 – a quincy ILL newspaper prints that obama met with the governor to discuss his senate seat earlier this week.

    Nov 16 or 17 – dave axelrod states on a local chicago fox news station that obama has talked with gov about his senate seat.

    Okay nothing wrong with all the above. I would think it quite common especially since the person vacanting the seat will be the next potus and will need every senator to help his agenda move forward. But this next statement on its own is particular and coupled with fact that the gov charged with filling the vacant seat is federally indicted for trying to sale the seat is down right nefarious.

    Dec 9 – obama holds a press conference and states that he never talked to the gov about his senate seat. Huh!

    Based on the fed indicment obama did the right thing and got called a motherf@@@er in the process. Obama did not give the gov (thank god) hhs or an ambassaorship and obama’s girl val didnt get the senate seat she got a whitehouse advisor job. So why did obama lie?
    Based on the fed indictment doc the gov was mad obama would not “pay to play” that is the reason for the “motherf@@@er” comment. So, obama knew the gov was trying to sale his senate seat and if he knew as a sitting senator and the president elect shouldnt he had report it? Is there some senate ethics (i know an oxymoron) requiring such disclosure? Being PE isnt he supoose to uphold the law?
    So the question really is why didnt obama report the gov to the feds? Maybe obama did but the charging doc relies on wiretaps and dose’nt mention an informant.

    Obama needs to hurry up and do something real positive because people are tried of smellimg this crap.

    Evolve and learn people…evovle and learn.

  • basil

    Thanks!

    :grin:

  • mewmew

    Don’t like Soros, I really don’t.

  • fif

    They will never expose him. To many people are too invested in his “historic” presidency. Like Scooter Libby, others will take the fall:

    “I should make clear, the complaint makes no allegations about the president-elect whatsoever,” Fitzgerald said. “We make no allegations that he’s aware of anything, and that’s as simply as I can put it. . . .

    “There’s no reference in the complaint to any conversations involving the president-elect or indicating that the president-elect was aware of it. And that’s all I can say.”

    Legal experts said it was unusual for a prosecutor to make such a blanket statement while an investigation was continuing.

    “That carries a great deal of weight,” said Jan Witold Baran, a Washington lawyer who represents politicians on ethical complaints and campaign finance matters. “It is really unusual for a U.S. attorney to say someone is not implicated.

    “Could evidence pop up in the future to the contrary? Sure, it’s possible. Is it likely? I think that, based on what he said yesterday, the answer is no,” Baran added.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/10/AR2008121003232_pf.html

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Politico has a story, on the *7 Blago questions for Obama*
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16465.html

    Too bad when anyone TRIES to ask obama these questions, they are scrubbed from the Obama site.

    Maybe that should be question number 8 from Politico?

    This is such a JOKE!!

  • lizpolaris

    Here’s some more censorship. In this case, it’s web cache being scrubbed from Google. Does this stuff happen my accident? I’m sure it could. If you put a bunch of monkeys in front of typewriters, in an infinite amount of time, they will type out the Bible. That could happen too.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/12/10/khqa-renounces-its-nov-5-story-reported-obama-blago-meeting-fact-nov-8?ref=fr

  • PKJayne

    I am watching his news conferemce.He is stumbling.

    Interesting link Liz.

  • elliewyatt

    “It is really unusual for a U.S. attorney to say someone is not implicated.

    But that is NOT what was said. Fitzgerald said:

    “the complaint makes no allegations”

    “We make no allegations”

    “There’s no reference in the complaint”

  • elliewyatt

    “It is really unusual for a U.S. attorney to say someone is not implicated.

    But that is NOT what was said. Fitzgerald said:

    “the complaint makes no allegations”

    “We make no allegations”

    “There’s no reference in the complaint”

  • Strawberrybitch

    Um, care to do a play by play for those of us without the stomach to actually watch him?

  • mewmew

    From the WAPO, via the AP:

    (I hear Bush, in regard to Plame: “any person on my staff caught lying, or involved…will be fired.” Yeah, right.)

    President-elect Barack Obama said Thursday that he’s confident no member of his staff was involved in discussing deals for his Senate seat with disgraced Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    Obama also said once again that he had no discussions about the seat he is vacating with the Democratic governor, who was arrested by federal agents this week in connection with an alleged corruption scheme.

    “I was as appalled and disappointed as anyone,” Obama said at a news conference called to announce a series of new appointments to the administration he is setting up.

    “I have never spoken to the governor on this subject,” he said. “I am confident that no representative of mine” would have taken part in any such discussions, he added.

    He said “I think the public trust has been violated” and said he did not think that the governor “at this point can effectively serve Illinois.

    “I do not think the governor at this point can effectively serve,” he said.

    He also said he wants to make sure the selection of a new senator isn’t tainted.

    Obama said neither he nor his staff had been contacted by federal officials in connection with the probe.

  • Galt

    Some mighty fine comments here today! :mrgreen:

  • PKJayne

    um ahhhhhhh let me be clear ummmmmm uh ah saddened uh uh uh appalled erm ah ….and on and on

  • Strawberrybitch

    Yeah, I figured as much. Hahahhah.

  • Galt

    I refuse to watch him too, strawBB.

  • PKJayne

    Galt it is like watching a train wreck, you can’t help but look.

  • Galt

    Evolve and learn people…evovle and learn.

    I’ll pass, but appreciate the suggestion. I prefer my troglodyte ways. :shock:

  • Strawberrybitch

    For me, watching Barky is like watching old, overweight German tourists at the beach who pack themselves into Speedos two sizes, too small.

  • Galt

    I understand that emotion, totally. In this case, my need to not want to vomit takes priority? :shock:

  • Donna Brazile

    So what that FRAK is new. He always stumbles, mumbles, and grumbles (that’s not what I meant) and the media says, that was Brilliant.

    Whatever!!!

    Stop the hate!

  • Galt

    I’d rather watch paint dry than that demonic entity.

  • mewmew

    In no way, shape or form do I think Obama is exempt from pay to play, so, then, I wonder, is every single apointment to his cabinet a product of this system, too?

    Daschle, the energy guy, Chu, Rice, god forbid, I hope not Clinton, but I have to wonder, I have to ask who else bought their position?

  • Annie Oakley

    I agree with fif that they’re not going to go after PEBO. But clearly the indictment indicates others were negotiating on his behalf. Advisors A and B must be worried.

    c. ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “motherfucker [the President-elect] his senator. (p 63)

    In other words an offer was made that Blago rejected. The media chooses to focus on the name Blago used for PEBO.

    102. Later on November 10, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH and Advisor A discussed the open Senate seat. Among other things, ROD BLAGOJEVICH raised the issue of whether the President-elect could help get ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife on “paid corporate boards right now.” Advisor A responded that he “think[s] they could” and that a “President-elect . . . can do almost anything he sets his mind to.”

    “a President-elect can do almost anything he sets his mind to.”

    ROD BLAGOJEVICH again raised the idea of the 501(c)(4) organization and asked whether “they” (believed be the President-elect and his associates) can get Warren Buffett and others to put $10, $12, or $15 million into the organization. Advisor A responded that “they” should be able to find a way to fund the organization.

    107. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. ROD BLAGOJEVICH discussed with Advisor B his idea for a 501(c)(4) organization. Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win because Change to Win already has an existing stream of revenue.

    Are these people bargaining on behalf of the PEBO, or has he once again misjudged the character of those he surrounds himself with?

  • mewmew

    Google owns you tube, right?

    And google is in the tank for Obama, probably under some illusion they’re the NSA…

    ROTFLMAO…

    sigh.

    Bababooie meets Silicone Valley ~~

  • Annie Oakley

    Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain.

  • bob

    What, no Jon Favreau thread?

  • bob

    No birth whitey tape certificate thread, either?

  • bob

    If PEBO’s into pay-to-play, what did Hillary have to pay, to play, Secretary of State?

  • Strawberrybitch

    Nope, sorry. No Quarter is waaay to busy trying to cover all the sleezy crap coming out about Barky lately. Larry’s got his hands full.

  • PKJayne

    I am waiting for breaking news on the new WORM CZAR.

  • bob

    If Obama goes to jail, Hillary will go to jail, too, won’t she? ‘Cause Rahm told Hillary about Blago and Hillary told Bill… so I guess Bill has to go to jail, too?

  • bob

    Obama is a black, white, militant, pacifist, Christian, Muslim, marxist, socialist, fascist, sexist liberal, dual citizenship, fake birth certificate having, Kenyan, British, American, gay, misogynistic Arab, African, Indonesian, Hawaiian, corrupt bisexual Chicago mobster, terrorist loving, spreading the wealth, center-right, pay-to-play, pro-choice, anti-gay marriage, community organizing, lefty, politician, frat-boyish lawyer.

    Will the center hold?

  • PKJayne

    Bob any chance you have a sign above your computer screen that says Office of Blogger Elect?

    Just asking……. :P

  • melba peachtoast

    Luckily the video escaped the memory hole. You won’t approve of the site, but

    http://podblanc.com/jew-axelrod-says-obama-boo-consulted-with-blagojevich-senate-seat

  • bob

    How did you know? You spyin’ on me?

  • mewmew

    Spy’in on you. bob?

    We ARE you, bob…

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    Because the complaint is targeting Blagojevich, not Obama. It doesn’t mean that there isn’t evidence against Obama. Obama is simply not named as a respondent in the complaint filed this week.

    Could Obama be implicated in the future? ABSOLUTELY!!!

  • http://donnadarko.wordpress.com donna darko

    The Tribune also said Rezko was her main client.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    Are you starting to see the light, Bob?

    Read through your list again.

  • bob

    But will the center hold?

  • WildChild

    will be on hold for at least four years.

  • csuzeq

    They said similar things about Blago and Obama in the Rezko trial and yet…here’s Blago arrested!

    I hope soon to be Obama as well.

  • csuzeq

    personally if Obama and Mechelle go to jail, I don’t care who goes down with him. Bill, Hillary, anyone, just so Obarfy goes down like he should.

    Take the whole frigging democrat and republican parties along and we can start over with all newbies in a real electoral process!

  • http://donnadarko.wordpress.com donna darko

    Rod Blagojevich said he has to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “motherfucker his senator. Fuck him. For nothing? Fuck him.”

    Blago is a PUMA.

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