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A Quick Round-up: Blagojevich and Obama

At the National Governor's Association, Dec. 2, 2008

At the National Governor's Association, Dec. 2, 2008

1) The LATimes has a finger-wagging piece about the downfalls and corruption of power. Yawn.

Blagojevich’s dramatic downfall is the first big Democratic scandal story of the Obama era. Granted, Obama has yet to set foot in the Oval Office (though right now he’s probably wishing his transition headquarters wasn’t in Chicago). But there was no way for Obama to completely avoid comment on a scandal involving the Democratic governor of his home state — especially when Blagojevich’s downfall was integrally related to his illegal efforts to profit from Obama’s success.

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Read the rest ->

All the same, Blagojevich’s downfall should be a cautionary tale for Democrats still basking in the reflected glory of Obama’s win. It’s a reminder that even at this magic moment of victory and party unity — even as the Clinton lions are lying down with the Obama lambs, and as Democratic dreams of vast infrastructure investments and a renewed commitment to international diplomacy are coming true — powerful Democrats aren’t immune to human weaknesses.
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In our heads, we Democrats know that. It’s just that in our hearts, we don’t want to believe it. Because we’re the good guys, right? The ones who honed our progressive values during years in the political wilderness and who finally saw those values vindicated in November’s electoral victories.

Well, if she’s just coming to the idea that Democrats are just as capable of bad behavior, she must have missed ALL of her history classes. Also, there’s a little more tying Obama to Blagojevich and its name is Rezko.

This article is not worth your time. I’ve excerpted the mildly interesting bits. The author only talks about the potential for problems while completely ignoring the bread crumbs leading to real questions.

2) The WSJ realizes this, of course.

What remains to be seen is whether this episode [Blagojevich corruption] will put an end to what Chicago Tribune political columnist John Kass calls the national media’s “almost willful” fantasy that Mr. Obama and Chicago’s political culture have little to do with each other. Mr. Kass notes that the media devoted a lot more time and energy to investigating the inner workings of Sarah Palin’s Wasilla, Alaska, than it has looking at Mr. Obama’s Chicago connections.

To date, Mr. Obama’s approach to Illinois corruption has been to congratulate himself for dodging association with it. “I think I have done a good job in rising politically in this environment without being entangled in some of the traditional problems of Chicago politics,” he told the Chicago Tribune last spring. At the time, Mr. Obama was being grilled over news that he bought his house through a land deal involving Tony Rezko, a political fixer who was later convicted on 16 corruption counts. Rezko is mentioned dozens of times in the 76-page criminal complaint against Mr. Blagojevich.

Mr. Obama has an ambiguous reputation among those trying to clean up Illinois politics. “We have a sick political culture, and that’s the environment Barack Obama came from,” Jay Stewart, executive director of the Chicago Better Government Association, told ABC News months ago. Though Mr. Obama did support ethics reforms as a state senator, Mr. Stewart noted that he’s “been noticeably silent on the issue of corruption here in his home state including, at this point, mostly Democratic politicians.”
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Mr. Blagojevich won [first election to governor, with Obama's support], but before long, problems surfaced. In 2004, Zalwaynaka Scott, the governor’s inspector general, said his administration’s efforts to evade merit-selection laws exposed “not merely an ignorance of the law, but complete and utter contempt for the law.” Nonetheless, Mr. Obama endorsed Mr. Blagojevich’s re-election in 2006.

When problems with the governor continued, state democrats split between state house speaker Michael Madigan who wanted to pursue impeachment and Emil Jones, the powerful state senate president and political midwife to Barack Obama, who rebuked Madigan for his efforts. At this point, legislators looked to see who Obama would back. He kept silent.

The WSJ ends hoping that Obama, as he has promised, will return often to Illinois.

Perhaps during one of those trips he could find time to forthrightly address the corruption issues that the state will be sorting through in the weeks and months ahead. A president has a powerful bully pulpit. A few words from Mr. Obama could force real and lasting change in Illinois.

3) Politico has a few questions for PEBO.

1 – “Did you communicate directly or indirectly with Blagojevich about picking your replacement in the U.S. Senate?”

2 – “Why didn’t you or someone on your team correct your close adviser David Axelrod when he said you had spoken to Blagojevich about picking your replacement?”

3. “When did you learn the investigation involved Blagojevich’s alleged efforts to ‘sell’ your Senate seat, or of the governor’s impending arrest?”

4 – “Did you or anyone close to you contact the FBI or U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald about Blagojevich’s alleged efforts to sell your Senate seat to the highest bidder?”

5 – “Did federal investigators interview you or anyone close to you in the investigation?”

6 – “When did you and Blagojevich last speak and about what?”

7 – “Do you regret supporting Blagojevich?”

Think he’ll answer? Maybe we could have a pool on the number of “uhs” should he bother.

4) The NYT, perhaps not surprisingly, makes a fundamental error in today’s story titled “Scandal Is an Early Test for Obama Team.”

Exactly what role he or his team played will be a focus of intense scrutiny in the weeks to come after the arrest of Mr. Blagojevich on accusations that he was plotting to trade or sell the Senate appointment. In that sense, the furor could be the first test of the Obama team’s ability to manage a growing scandal in an era when intense media scrutiny and partisan attack machinery can escalate any flap into a serious political problem.

Mr. Obama said Tuesday that he had never spoken with the governor about the seat, and prosecutors have not implicated Mr. Obama or his advisers. At the same time, Mr. Obama’s team has declined for two days to answer questions about what discussions they had about the seat and whether intermediaries had any contacts with Mr. Blagojevich’s advisers.
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Mr. Emanuel was among the few people in Mr. Obama’s circle who occasionally spoke to Mr. Blagojevich. He declined to answer questions on Wednesday, waving off a reporter who approached him as he walked across Capitol Hill.

A Democrat familiar with Illinois politics and the Obama transition, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there probably were calls between the Blagojevich and Obama camps about the Senate seat. It was not clear if any calls were recorded by federal agents, who had tapped the governor’s phones.

This piece suggests that Obama and his team face a test about how they will handle this scandal. I don’t agree. It may be a test, but it’s a “do-over.” Obama made choices to support Blagojevich years ago, to associate and profit from relationships with Blagojevich, Rezko and Jones and to REMAIN SILENT on Illinois corruption. To suggest he faces a test only now is myopic in the extreme.

Still, worth the read for a reminder of some Chicago politics history.

5) AOL adds this:

But Obama and his handlers are desperately spinning and ducking tough questions on the scandal. Obama’s terse, one sentence statement on the day the scandal broke satisfied none but his most sycophantic supporters and actually raised more questions than it answered. His denial that he met with the governor or anyone on the governor’s staff is not believable, and worthy of skepticism. This is especially so since his remarks contradict his chief political strategist, David Axelrod, who told a Chicago television station that the president-elect and the governor did indeed meet and that Obama approved of the names of potential replacements on the governor’s list. Axelrod’s retraction of his remarks, again, on the day the scandal broke, is even more unbelievable than Obama’s denial of a meeting taking place. Most analysts realize that Axelrod was spinning to protect Obama from the fallout associated with meeting the governor about the Senate vacancy. That’s what political strategists do.

Yeah, there are multiple “understandings” here. One for those “in the know” and one for the lemmings occasionally watching on the telly.

6) Redstate comments on the Obama transition question site removing impertinent questions.

So, at the Obama transition site the President-elect’s team is entertaining questions concerning the issues of the day. For its pains, Team Obama is being confronted with a whole host of questions concerning the Blagojevich scandal and matters associated with it.

So, what happense in response? Obama supporters flag and remove all of the questions.

The author goes on to discuss whether the site is actually a public forum and what could justify the apparent censorship. An interesting question in light of all the ‘net scrubbing going on.

7) In a piece at The Stump, Obama’s relationship with IL state senate president Emil Jones is lightly explored. While Obama has been preaching “post-racial” politics, he has actually been quite adept at practicing old-fashioned racial plays. Anyone watching the race-baiting during the campaign probably wondered how Obama could justify the one while claiming the other. Well, here is an interesting bit from the article.

For his part, Obama’s relationship with Jones seems to have genuinely softened his thinking on machine politics, at least so far as it concerned delivering for people who would otherwise go without. Late in Obama’s state senate career, Jones held an education bill hostage until it provided additional funding for a mostly black high school on Chicago’s south side. It was the kind of inside manuever goo-goos typically denounce as a racial shakedown, and you can imagine the young Obama doing the same. Instead, Obama praised Jones, telling The Chicago Tribune that “if you talk to him, you see it’s grounded in the sense that, for years, a predominantly African-American institution was short-changed by the state. … He’s playing the insider game to make sure money is going to these projects.”

So, racial politics isn’t OK, except when it is. We saw the practical application of this during Obama’s run for president.

8 ) Also on the WSJ is an interesting piece on that marathon phone call about Obama’s now vacant US Senate seat.

Among the hundreds of hours of conversations involving Illinois Gov.
Rod Blagojevich secretly recorded by the FBI since Oct. 22, one phone
call is drawing particular scrutiny among politicos, journalists and
others in Washington. It was a marathon conference call on Monday,
Nov. 10.

The call lasted about two hours. On the phone were Mr. Blagojevich,
his wife, his general counsel, an unnamed adviser, and John Harris,
the governor’s chief of staff and his co-defendant in this week’s case.

But what’s drawing the most interest is who was on the line from
Washington, and the sequence of political events that followed that
same night and in the ensuing days regarding Barack Obama’s close
friend and adviser, Valerie Jarrett.
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Mr. Obama’s people are not commenting on details about the case. But
the reason that question is on so many minds today is because of what
happened that very same Monday night.

At 7:56 p.m. Eastern Time, CNN reported that “two Democratic sources
close to President-elect Barack Obama tell CNN that top adviser
Valerie Jarrett will not be appointed to replace him in the U.S. Senate.”

That was an abrupt turnaround. While we can’t vouch for CNN’s
reportage, the network had reported that same weekend that Ms. Jarrett
was Mr. Obama’s top choice. (Ms. Jarrett herself confirmed that she
was out of contention two days after it was reported by CNN, and two
days after the marathon conference call. She told the PBS show The
Newshour with Jim Lehrer, “Well, you know what? I`m actually not
interested in the Senate position.”)

At a bare minimum, the timing of Team Obama’s decision to remove Ms.
Jarrett’s name from contention, or at least to remove her name from
the public speculation about the post, seems extraordinarily lucky. It
came on the very same day the FBI secretly recorded Mr. Blagojevich
telling a huge conference call loaded with politicos, in Illinois and
Washington, that he wasn’t about to give the Senate spot away for nothing.

It’s also the same recorded conversation in which Mr. Blagojevich uses
an obscenity to refer to Mr. Obama, before the governor makes clear he
won’t give the president-elect the seat for free. “F— him. For
nothing? F— him.”

Did the Obama team know? Oh, come on! They certainly did. Did someone other than Blagojevich act badly? I don’t know. But, as the church lady used to say: “How conveeeeenniiiiieeeent.”

  • tek

    I just want to see that twerp Emanuel take a fall.

  • tek

    And one other thing, if Blago is a Chicago lawyer and has been governor for 8 years, why doesn’t he have any money?

    Never make big contributions to politicians.

  • cathnealon

    Why doesn’t everyone just say it–BO didn’t get where he is because he’s “above the dirty politics’ of Chicago. In fact, he’s there BECAUSE of the dirty politics. It takes one to know one and Blago calling BO that name is the best thing about that whole conversation.

  • samb

    I AM ALWAYS AMAZED AT THE EASE THAT OBAMA GLIDES THREW HIS SCANDALS
    IT IS ALMOST PATHOLOGICAL, IT’S GOING TO BE A STRANGE 4 YEARS WITH OBAMA AS PRESIDENT.

  • Lorraine

    That’s because every night he takes a bath in TEFLON, Damn I am so frustrated

  • Blubber

    In the grand scheme of things the whole Blago affair is not a big deal and fairly meaningless. So what, a scumbag governor tries to make a backroom deal. This kind of stuff goes on in government all the time. You scratch my back and I scratch your back. Blago was just stupid enough to get caught on tape.

    Despicable behavior for an elected official, but not the end of the world. There are far more important things to be worrying about. Kick the governor out and get on with it.

    What Blago was “attempting” to do was far less important that the many things that have been done in this country for the last 10 years by politicians (lying to get us into wars, schredding the constition, driving the country into a recession, outing CIA officers, etc.). So the guy was trying to get a job after he left office, happens all the time.

  • Galt

    LisaB thanks for taking the time to put this round-up together.

  • Kal

    LisaB: This is very helpful. Just one question: I’m confused by your last few sentences. Are you suggesting that BO found out from the conference call that he’s have to pony up to get Jarrett into the Senate, and didn’t want to waste the political clout it would take on Blag, so he pulled her into the WH? Or are you suggesting that he pulled her out of contention to take make it clear to everyone that he is squeaky-clean and would not even let an appearance of bargaining creep in?

    I know its something in the sequencing in that last item you clip from, but I don’t know enough about the context to really pull it together — any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated!

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    Keep tellin’ yourself that.

  • andrew191

    Why do I suspect that if Blago was a Republican your attitude would be quite different?

  • Butterball

    Maybe he glides threw them because they are not really scandals and he has done nothing wrong!!!

    I have looked at this website from time to time and I have to say that Larry and people on here have been complete wrong on just about everthing to do with politics.

    I have also never seen any substantial proof on this site that really confirms any of the innuedo, conspiracies, slander and speculation that drives this website.

  • http://deleted Buzz Latte

    The classic question is applicable to Obama here:

    What did he know and when did he know it?

  • Butterball

    You guys are just looking for another Whitewater. Just like the endless attacks on Clinton. 7 yrs and $50 mm of taxpayer money for nothing. I guess there will always be certain people that will never accept a Democrat in the White House. I just wished we would have given the same treatment to Bush.

  • Donna Brazile

    Blubberball:

    The same treatment the media gave to Bush they are giving to THAT ONE. Maybe YOU should be asking a few more questions as to why that’s so instead of slurping up the kool aide.

    Stop the hate!

  • LisaB

    I think the “marathon” phone call included an Obama staffer or they became aware of its contents somehow.

    The article suggests that if Jarrett was BO’s choice, her removing herself from contention the day after that phone call but before another incriminating one was deliberate or very lucky.

    Whether he participated or not, either BO did not like the terms for the seat to go to Jarrett or he didn’t like the how Blagojevich went about it. Since he won’t admit to even talking with the governor, no one knows which. Had Blagojevich chosen Jarrett with this wiretap in place, things would have looked bad. So they got lucky – one way or another.

  • Butterball

    Who cares? and big deal! What is that question going to prove? What is the tragedy here? And why is it important?

  • beebop

    If it were a Rethug, this would be all over the websites …. huffpoop would be streaming all of the irrational Pelosi statements they could grasp. Please. I am no shrub fan, but BHO ran this guys campaign, refused to get on board with calling him out roughly six months ago (when by the way, he didn’t need the guy) … if you don’t think they got something on not so golden boy, your entire left side of your brain has been eaten away by toxic koolaide.

  • Kal

    Thanks! I guess it leaves open the question of whether BO had been asked in that Oct. meeting at the FBI to cooperate if a shakedown started to unfold. ??

  • beebop

    Gee, I don’t know. Getting shaken down for a senate seat usually requires a call to the justice department …. duh.

  • mewmew
  • Butterball

    Lets even assume that Obama’s people did talk to the Governor’s people about the senate seat. What is wrong with that? If they did not cut a deal where is the harm? You may say that if they were involved in a conversation about trading for the seat then it would be wrong if they did not report it to the prosecutors. However, how do you know that it was not Obama’s people that helped rat-out BO to start with, like the local Chicago press has speculated?

    You guys are just looking for some kind of BS to pin on Obama that in the grand scheme of things is likely to be very small.

    A nice distraction from the more important things like fixing the economy, two wars, etc.

  • bob

    why doesn’t he have any money?

    Cayman Islands Account# ***-****-*****-**

  • mewmew

    I’m more surprised at those who protect the corrupt, whether it be Obama, or Bush.

    Just as I can’t take a freeper seriously, netiher can I take a DKer seriously, either.

  • rolling_thunder

    Uh oh.
    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/04/fbi-asked-questions-on-rezko-land-deal/
    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/11/rezkos-singing-blago-investigation-shows/

    The FBI is asking about Obama´s house purchase and an appraisal review that got lost/replaced.
    President Biden, your car is waiting.

  • mewmew

    Again, why are you protecting corruption?

    See, right there, something is wrong.

  • rolling_thunder

    open your f’n eyes and maybe then YOU WILL SEE.

  • bob

    I said the same thing upthread. Crying wolf won’t work. People have to identify Obama’s weakness (Clinton-sex, Bush-pride) and then attack that. Attacking his associates and then trying to tie him to them will fail because he has a firewall.

  • beebop

    You are under an obligation as a public servant — see we PAY OBAMA’S STAFF — to report these issues to the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ……. do you get it now knucklehead? You don’t have to be guilty. Just call the guys and let them know you are being shaken down. The fact that they DIDN’T call is the issue ….. duh. No left brain activity at all, right?

  • Butterball

    And how do you know that call was not made? as the Chicago press has suggested that Rahm was the one who ratted-out BO…. Obama was not friends with BO. he did not invite him to the convention to speak or to Grant Park for the victory speech, which is in is own state… imagine that!

  • beebop

    Obama ego is his downfall. He believes his own fantasy and he is fast getting to the point where he can no longer separate fact from fiction. DANGER DANGER.

  • FenelonSpoke

    Go baste yourself with the koolaide and hop back in the oven, butterball. Turkey.

  • Donna Brazile

    You’re blubbering again!

    Stop the hate!

  • beebop

    Obama was not friends with BO

    Honey …. come back when you’re making sense, mkay? :)

  • J.J. (The PUMA)

    Perhaps the Feds, not wanting to ensnare the president elect, tipped him off after the November 10th phone call, and he pulled the plug on “negotiations”.

  • bob

    You’ll have to check the approval rating numbers for PEBO next week to see if this “scandal” has had any effect. So far he’s up around 79%.

  • beebop

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

  • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

    Kal, I don’t have any definitive info, but that whole sequence of events jumped out at me from the beginning. First, there’s the marathon phone call, then later that day, Jarrett abruptly removes her name from contention, and by some accounts, threw Blago and Co. for a complete loop. The very next day, Obie announced that he was resigning his Senate seat earlier than anybody else in history. Aside from distancing himself from Blago, what was the point? And, if he had info on Blago trying to sell the seat, why not contact Fitzgerald? And, if he did contact the US atty, why not take his bows? Something’s up with all that, we just don’t have enough info to figure out exactly what.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    i love your pieces – i should always just wait for you, to get updated, instaead of runinng all over the blogosphere! :OD

  • mewmew

    bob, you are just not connected to reality.

    Next thing you know, he’ll start babbling about conspiracy theories.

    Have you thought about a job with Google, btw?

  • J.J. (The PUMA)

    What I understand a butterball to be is a fat turkey with a stick up its butt that pops out when things get too hot. Do I have that wrong?

  • Annie Oakley

    So the media consensus is that Obie wasn’t in negotiations to pay Blago for his preferred Senator pick? The only story is that PEBO refused to deal and Blago used a bad word? Then what is referred to in the words immediately prior in that same quote?

    ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that the consultants (Advisor B and another consultant are believed to be on the call at that time) are telling him that he has to “suck it up” for two years and do nothing and give this “motherfucker [the President-elect] his senator.

    Negotiations continue with Blagojevich not wanting to wait.

    Later on November 10, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH and Advisor A discussed the open Senate seat. Among other things, ROD BLAGOJEVICH raised the issue of whether the President-elect could help get ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife on “paid corporate boards right now.” Advisor A responded that he “think[s] they could” and that a “President- elect . . . can do almost anything he sets his mind to.”

    The next day:

    Later on November 11, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor A. … ROD BLAGOJEVICH again raised the idea of the 501(c)(4) organization and asked whether “they” (believed be the President-elect and his associates) can get Warren Buffett and others to put $10, $12, or $15 million into the organization.

    On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. … Advisor B stated that he likes the idea, but liked the Change to Win option better because, according to Advisor B, from the President-elect’s perspective, there would be fewer “fingerprints” on the President-elect’s involvement with Change to Win because Change to Win already has an existing stream of revenue

    PEBO’s people are discussing a pay off, how to arrange it in a way safe for the president. Now maybe Obama has no clue what is being done on his behalf, but it seems likely that one or more of his people have some splainin to do.

  • Donna Brazile

    Well blob-o hearts blubberball– isn’t that special.

    Stop the hate!

  • beebop

    That’s some bad hat, Harry.

    Shrub started out with a 92% approval rating according to USA Today http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070710/1a_lede10.art.htm

    So popularity tops legality? Where? Dancing with the Freaking Stars? You.Are.An.Ass,sir!

  • CG

    Thanks for the compilation. I had commented earlier at LATimes on the Rosa Brooks article suggesting the warning she makes should be directed at the media for their part: complacency and laziness, etc.

    I wonder if Dick Durbin is a negotiator for Obama, as he also spoke regularly with Blagojevich, and is a confident of Obama.

  • Kal

    Well, maybe a pre-call was made, for all we know. Spinners must have a lot of tricks up their sleeves.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Yesiree, Bob. If those same 79% thought it was a good idea to imbibe urine, you’d be sucking it down. Which part of the herd are you, the runt or the straggler? The rest of the bovine company you normally keep is over at HuffPo–why don’t you join them there?

  • Kal

    Actually, seeing all this together does indeed suggest ongoing negotiations — so the Chg papers are saying that Rahm ratted on BO for negotiating? If so, will we be seeing Rahm going out the door soon?

    Does someone have the link to the whole complaint + affidavit? This might all make more sense in context.

  • Annie Oakley
  • Ferd Berfle

    I hope you are also using this same level of scrutiny for every single politician in American. ie. they need to call the justice department for every single quid quo pro offer…

    Unlike you, NQers do not suffer from selective indignation when corruption is encountered.

  • rw

    “In the grand scheme of things the whole Blago affair is not a big deal and fairly meaningless.”

    That’s right. Meaningless, the rule of law, ethics…who cares about that, that’s the way to run the US government that’s 35 years old…that was important during the Nixon era…nobody cares about that now. We’ve moved on. Go Blago, fight it!

    The future for the US looks bleak.

  • Ferd Berfle

    And a butterball with a goatee is Phaht So, otherwise known as Bill Richardson.

  • rw

    Nice compilation.

    “we Democrats know that. It’s just that in our hearts, we don’t want to believe it. Because we’re the good guys, right? The ones who honed our progressive values”

    the goods ones, the ones who honed our progressive values…values like misogyny don’t count, nor does voter fraud, nor does stealing an election.

  • rolling_thunder

    If you have to ask then you are not too bright. I guess they’ll give a degree to anyone who can pay the fee. :grin:

  • btintaos

    ROFLMAO.

  • rolling_thunder

    “fixing the economy” :?:
    Fraudbama knows nothing about fixing an economy much less running a snall business. You are FUNNY!

  • rolling_thunder

    “fixing the economy” :?:
    Fraudbama knows nothing about fixing an economy much less running a small business. You are FUNNY!

  • Helen

    Donna Brazile – it’s too late to stop the hate you started. Your guy is an accomplished liar, and has been surrounded by questionable people. At least now we can see that hate mongering is not limited to people with white skins. Now use your time more productively and educate Jesse Jackson Jr. that MLK was dead when civil rights legislation passed – due to efforts of whites like me.

  • Texas

    I think what everyone is looking for is truth and justice and obviously it’s not going to come from the Obama camp.

  • csuzeq

    No, no, no. The article said that Obama is not involved in that case either. He is just unfortunate enough to be surrounded by felons. Poor, poor Obama. What are the odds of that? LOL!

  • Ferd Berfle

    People have to identify Obama’s weakness (Clinton-sex, Bush-pride)

    You silly little boy. His weakness is his narcissism. You are the only one, apparently, who does not know that.

  • rolling_thunder

    Oh we moderate dems will accept a dem in the white house as long as they are for the people and not for the crooks. Yes we’ll accept a dem of course…just not this one. :grin:

  • Margaret

    Yes, or, as someone said yesterday, what didn’t he know, and when didn’t he know it?

  • msjudy

    This little article was scrubbed from a site, but somebody got it back. Thought I would pass it on.

    http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/bad_americans/missing_pages_o.php

  • Margaret

    Ah, no, Whitewater was nothing, no wrongdoing whatsoever, just a gratituitous attack.

    And here, we have one more in a countless list of Obama’s friends being indicted. He’s a crook!

  • Margaret

    Point is, why did Obama lie and say the conversation never happened? Guess he’s got something to hide.

  • rolling_thunder

    PS. He’s not a dem anyway. He can call himself anything he wants but he has dual membership with the socialist/communist party and only joined the Dem party when he began to run for state senate!!!!! :cool:
    Dem my ass. There are independents here that are more Dem than Fraudbama is. He has no idea what the dems stand for. He’s a communist like his mum and granny. You’ll see in time. When you have to give over your whole paycheck to the gov’t in exchange for some crumbs, remember we told you so. Now stop voting! You don’t know what you are doing!

  • csuzeq

    I’m glad that Obama was elected just for the simple fact that now racism has been a thing of the past since 11/4/08. Should I ever get called a racist now, I can calmly announce that I cannot be a racist because racism ended 11/4/08.

    Thank goodness he accomplished that. Now feel free to take him off to a nice jail cell, Mr. Fitzpatrick. He has served his purpose.

  • Jules

    Maybe he glides threw them because they are not really scandals and he has done nothing wrong!!!

    And maybe there really IS a Santa Claus!

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    John Kass, my new hero…may he survive the long awaited collapse of the Chicago Tribune, NY Times etal., for their refusal to report accurately.

  • Jules

    Who cares? Are you serious? Why don’t we just auction off all of our political offices to the highest bidder? I’m SURE we’ll then have a government that is looking out for the people.

  • Katmoon

    From the Gov site:

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    November 5, 2008
    Governor Blagojevich Congratulates President-elect Obama and Discusses U.S. Senate Seat

    http://www.illinois.gov/PressReleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=72&RecNum=7260

    My apologies if this has been dug up already

  • Jules

    So we are supposed to believe Obama is “brilliant” but at the same time absolutely clueless about all that goes on around him for decades. Brilliant but clueless.

  • Mandelay

    John Kass writes for the Chicago Tribune.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I think what everyone is looking for is truth and justice and obviously it’s not going to come from the Obama camp.

    Truth and justice only exist in the open, a word which cannot be ascribed to That One.

  • Ken in IL

    Obama is probably clean on this one. It would be small stuff compared to what is coming up. The question to ask him under oath is whether he engaged in “pay to play” for other positions or favors when he was in the state senate? My guess is there is a lot of gold in that mine if someone can find crack in his armor.

  • Ferd Berfle

    My guess is there is a lot of gold in that mine if someone can find crack in his armor.

    That’s no armor–it’s an exoskeleton.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Great post. So, the question is, did someone tip Obama to back away from Blago or he will go down with him? There’s enough history already with Blago Rezko and Obama. Gee, sounds like a Corporation.

    The shakedown specialists of Blagojevich, Rezko and Obama. You know they’ll work hard for a piece of the pie.

  • Diana L. C.

    If you read it from “time to time,” then you have missed the meaty articles. Those who come here often know the meat and bones of the case(s) against Obama and his “past associations.” You come here only in the hope of confirming that we’re all conspiracy theorists, and you see only what you want to see.

  • jbjd

    For $50,000,000 and 1 (one) week, I would bet you could find BO’s original birth certificate; his Columbia, Occident, and Harvard transcripts; his medical records…

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    Strange isn’t exactly the word I would use to characterize the upcoming horrors and death of our nation as we knew it. One can only hope that if he does get into the White House, it won’t be for four years–hopefully they’ll be able to pin at least ONE of his criminal acts on him before long.

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    Perhaps if you did not radiate the hate you wouldn’t perceive concerns about our democracy as hatred. Ever think of that? No, didn’t think so.

  • Diana L. C.

    Hey, I have an idea. Since you’re so astute about what is bad, worse, and worst, let’s all ask you to decide all the issues that have to do with government corruption. You can give them labels so we know better which ones to worry about.

    Then, please tell me why all those terrible things you mentioned were not brought under fire by the very people who pursued and fraudulent agenda during the Democratic primary to get the ONE elected? Why, for two years, weren’t those issues raised? Why? Perhaps they simply learned how to commit fraud from them.

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    my point exactly.

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    msjudy, many many thanks for that–everyone should take note of judy’s quick thinking–Whenever anyone sees anything of merit online, it is absolutely VITAL that it be harvested and safely copied and saved in the probable event that it is scrubbed. Since the Bush administration, things began to disappear at an alarming rate from all kinds of archives but what has been perpetrated since Obama began campaigning for office is exponential compared to what the Bush administration accomplished. Of course, promising Google owners good government jobs has further insured that the scrubbing continues even more furiously than before, in the hope that all Americans are not only too stupid to remember what they have read, but also too stupid to notice that it has suddenly been removed from the page.

    This is serious business folks. We now have the most brilliant technical minds in charge of an ongoing scrubbing campaign. Again, it is vital to harvest and save every salient report we see for it is certain to disappear the minute someone pokes another hole in the network of thugs that have seized power.

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    Amen Fred. You obviously ‘get it.’

  • jbjd

    You are full of fecal matter. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed by LBJ in the presence of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., at the White House. (As soon as he became President after JFK’s assassination LBJ, a brilliant mover and shaker in Congress, gathered the leaders of the House and Senate. ‘I want a civil rights bill; and I want it yesterday.’ So, they worked up a bill that prohibited discrimination on account of race, religion, and natural origin. But not sex. The word “sex” was added as an afterthought. That is, prohibiting discrimination on account of race did not go over too well with some white legislators. But Southern legislators did not want to stand up and say, ‘We don’t want the federal government telling us how to treat darkies in our neck of the woods.’ So, they figured, if we add a prohibition against discrimination on account of “sex,” no one will vote for this. Even Eastern industrialists will balk at having to pay women equal to men. And that’s how the Civil Rights Act of 1964 became law.

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    Linda, I think it’s a pretty safe assumption that Blago and BOzo have worked together for a long time. No one gets anywhere in Illinois unless they’re part of Thugs Inc., and weaseling one’s way toward the WH does not mean that those who helped with the push will step aside. Not in the least–in fact, in reality, they are now stepping up for their payback for getting him there and the ties would, by necessity, be closer than ever.

  • lark

    Maybe in the next four years we will have a nuclear holocaust where we all die from atomic radiation but Obama survives in his bunker. After all he never knew what was happening that made our enemies fire everything they have against us.

  • lark

    By the smirk that I detected in his face today I can bet heavily that he was tipped.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    i have been saying this since day one. everything about obama’s history (what one can actually find, which hasn’t been sealed or “disappeared”) suggests that he has been a willing participant in the chicago “pay to play” game.

    i think that initially, some of the powers-that-be there saw obama as a convenient, clean, fresh face to use as a tool to advance their own interests, so they “helped him along” with his career. obama, of course, was quite willing to be used as a tool. later on, when obama gained some power of his own, he started pulling other people’s strings, as well as having his own strings pulled.

  • NoBamaNoWay

    uh, corruption IS a big deal. it is 90% of what is wrong with washington, and i’m sick and tired of it. maybe in you scheme of values, this shit is okay, but it sure isn’t in mine.

  • http://truthisgold.blogspot.com truthisgold

    you can bank on it!

  • I’m a Linda too

    lol BOzo, I like THAT!…sorry for delayed reply, phone call from sis, then dinner….and the dinner was REAL late because of phone call.

    They definitely have worked together, all the dirty guys, Emil, Rezko, Blago, Jackson Jr and Obama and the record and history confirms it all. All of the sudden O is clean? ROFL Now, I think you can be in politics in even Chitown and not be dirty, it’s just not THEIR cup of tea. And O wanted to climb to the top too fast and accepted all their help to get there. But, O was playing ball and directing money to friends long before he started really making the bucks.

    Why everyone has covered for his schemes with Rezko, I don’t know. Maybe Fitzgerald is working in order and that’s next.

  • socalannie

    Great roundup LisaB, and I love your comments! I can tell you from experience the LA Times isn’t interested in uncovering any wrongdoings whatsoever by gov. officials. But they did send 3 reporters out one day to cover one of Britney Spears temper tantrums. We are so done with the LA Times.

  • Twinkie

    RE: Comment by tek | 2008-12-11 15:30:04

    I just want to see that twerp Emanuel take a fall.

    Can a former male ballet dancer be a twerp?

  • Twinkie

    Mr. Blagojevich won [first election to governor, with Obama's support], but before long, problems surfaced. In 2004, Zalwaynaka Scott, the governor’s inspector general, said his administration’s efforts to evade merit-selection laws exposed “not merely an ignorance of the law, but complete and utter contempt for the law.” Nonetheless, Mr. Obama endorsed Mr. Blagojevich’s re-election in 2006.

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