The war will go on forever also, because niether of the two corporate parties want it to end. None of these laws the democrats are trying to pass would end the war and they refuse to do the one thing they could do to stop it (cut the funding).

I heard Pelosi lie on a talk show this morning. She said that even if they cut the funding, there was enough money to carry them to the end of next year (which may be true) and that the senate wouldn’t allow their no funding bill. The way she stumbled when saying this made it obvious that she knew she was lying. The senate could do nothing if the democrats in the house refused to allow a bill out of committee.

I have also heard that the oil companies were opposed to the methods of neo cons (but not the goal). Destroying secularism, manipulating religious groups (who are so eager to collaborate) and then arming both sides may hinder a national liberation movement in Iraq but it also creates a lot of chaos and volitility in oil supplies. Another thing it may end up doing is endangering the Dollar’s position as a reserve currency – something we are beginning to see the effects of now.

“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.” ~Henry Kissinger

“Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy..” Henry Kissinger
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AMERICA’s problem = people who had the power to change things during NIXON – DID NOT. The RATS plotted and festered, the CANCER SPREAD.

But since the Bushies broke it, let’s not pretend they are qualified to fix it.

As for Iran, the Bushies have lied time and time again. Why should anyone believe them now?

But remember Saddam was being prosecuted by the American Corporations (Bush & co – Zapata) for daring to nationalise the oil industry.

And there is still the looming Israel versus the entire Middle East gunfight at the OK Corale just waiting to happen.

Let’s face it, oil will eventually run out so the World, or rather the hallowed corporate community is faced with some harsh choices in the future. I think oil is in place because there is a general reluctance to fix something that isn’t broken – even though it is broken.

But Susan, and thankyou for your article, why stop at 15 years, why not 50 years. Or, why not forever. If the headline read, Iraq may occupy the USA for 15 years, people may look at it in shock. Though Shirin might protest that I am devaluing the state of Iraq by what I say, I will make this suggestion anyway. Hasn’t the USA also been occupied by Iraqis and other muslim peoples who have had the opportunity to gain political members who have had the effect of ammending or producing new laws. Granted, the choice of a national facing the barrel of a gun seems rather more stark than those who are trusted to follow the law of the land. But even in the most accute situations the people will only pay lip service to laws that they don’t intend to follow.

The deeper question is this. Does anyone have the right (God given) to possess anything and if so why? It seems to me that sovereignty is the very start and end of the problem. If you remove national identity then everything becomes fair as noone can plunder…in the name of….

They can only plunder because they are tyrants.

In fact, there is ample evidence that oil was a major factor in the decision to invade and take over Iraq.
And it is not about keeping the price of oil high any more than it is about obtaining oil to maintain Americans’ lifestyle. It is not about corporate profits – that is just a nice side effect. It is about much, much more than that. It is about controlling the supply of the world’s single most essential resource. He who controls the oil controls the world.

As time flows Congress seems to be more of a sideshow of scandals and sexcapades, while Dark Lord Cheney rules the world atop the Pentagon.

The oil industry asserted its influence after the invasion. In his book, Armed Madhouse, BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast documents that the US oil industry’s interest in Middle Eastern oil is very different from grabbing the oil. Palast shows that the American oil companies’ interests coincide with OPEC’s. The oil companies want a controlled flow of oil that results in steady and high prices. Consequently, the US oil industry blocked the neoconservative plan, hatched at the Heritage Foundation and aimed at Saudi Arabia, to use Iraqi oil to bust up OPEC.

Saddam got in trouble because one moment he would cut production to support the Palestinians and the next moment he would pump the maximum allowed. Up and down movements in prices are destabilizing events for the oil industry. Palast reports that a Council on Foreign Relations report concludes: Saddam is a “destabilizing influence . . . to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East….” (clip)

September 20, 2007
http://www.counterpunch.com/roberts09202007.html

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