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		<title>By: RS Janes</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-28514</link>
		<dc:creator>RS Janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last spring I read several articles by &#039;Republicans strategists&#039; and neocon bloggers who were slaivating to run against Hillary. You know the old saying about being careful of what you wish for... I can&#039;t wait for them to nominate Rudy and have him take a call in the middle of a debate with Hill: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Yes, dear -- yes, I&#039;m in a debate with Hillary Clinton -- you want to say hello to her?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
It ought to be an entertaining election, if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last spring I read several articles by &#8216;Republicans strategists&#8217; and neocon bloggers who were slaivating to run against Hillary. You know the old saying about being careful of what you wish for&#8230; I can&#8217;t wait for them to nominate Rudy and have him take a call in the middle of a debate with Hill: <em>&#8220;Yes, dear &#8212; yes, I&#8217;m in a debate with Hillary Clinton &#8212; you want to say hello to her?&#8221;</em><br />
It ought to be an entertaining election, if nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-28420</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greywolf, where was your outrage when they wore purple ribbons on the floor of the republican convention in a low life effort to smear war hero John Kerry?  Where was your outrage at the smear on Max Cleeland?  Where is your outrage at the fact that Bush has fired, what now? Nine Generals?  Where is your outrage at &quot;Swiftboating&quot; in general?  Where was your outrage when the Bushies in the south called McCain crazy since he had suffered torture?  Where was your outrage then?  How can you expect anyone in their right mind to take you seriously?    

From the party who brought you Willie Horton and 9/11, folks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vlPTfssEY&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthinkprogress%2Eorg%2F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greywolf, where was your outrage when they wore purple ribbons on the floor of the republican convention in a low life effort to smear war hero John Kerry?  Where was your outrage at the smear on Max Cleeland?  Where is your outrage at the fact that Bush has fired, what now? Nine Generals?  Where is your outrage at &#8220;Swiftboating&#8221; in general?  Where was your outrage when the Bushies in the south called McCain crazy since he had suffered torture?  Where was your outrage then?  How can you expect anyone in their right mind to take you seriously?    </p>
<p>From the party who brought you Willie Horton and 9/11, folks:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vlPTfssEY&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthinkprogress%2Eorg%2F" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vlPTfssEY&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthinkprogress%2Eorg%2F</a></p>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-28416</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ran, you would do well not to trust anyone as far as you can throw them, and that includes yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ran, you would do well not to trust anyone as far as you can throw them, and that includes yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: raoul</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-28110</link>
		<dc:creator>raoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article and unfortunately you are totally correct about Clinton having balls. Maybe that&#039;s why the neocon right wing is scared shitless of her. If she gets the nomination I&#039;m gonna stock up on alot of popcorn and soda because NEXT year will be quite a show!
r.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and unfortunately you are totally correct about Clinton having balls. Maybe that&#8217;s why the neocon right wing is scared shitless of her. If she gets the nomination I&#8217;m gonna stock up on alot of popcorn and soda because NEXT year will be quite a show!<br />
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		<title>By: RS Janes</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27952</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graywolf, here&#039;s some raw meat, fresh from the Rove butcher shop -- fetch, boy, fetch...

Since when is every four-star general an &#039;honorable man&#039; just because he&#039;s a four-star general, in or out of war; and since when does a political organization expressing its opinion constitute &#039;treason&#039;? What the hell do you think the military is supposed to fight for if not our rights? Read the Constitution and the military oath of enlistment, Graywolf, if you can get the blinders off your eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graywolf, here&#8217;s some raw meat, fresh from the Rove butcher shop &#8212; fetch, boy, fetch&#8230;</p>
<p>Since when is every four-star general an &#8216;honorable man&#8217; just because he&#8217;s a four-star general, in or out of war; and since when does a political organization expressing its opinion constitute &#8216;treason&#8217;? What the hell do you think the military is supposed to fight for if not our rights? Read the Constitution and the military oath of enlistment, Graywolf, if you can get the blinders off your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27829</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You find her health plan wanting, but it&#039;s very similar to Edwards&#039; plan and I doubt you condemn his, and that&#039;s only because he&#039;s not her.  

One reason that Edwards and Clinton have set up their plans as they have is because they have a shot at getting through Congress which can&#039;t be said for a single-payer or all-Medicare plan.  In the Thurs. night PBS debate, not one of the Democratic candidates said they support a single-payer insurance plan, and I&#039;d guess the biggest reason is it has no prayer of passing Congress.  We have to get REAL here ... &lt;strong&gt;would you rather people have NOTHING until you get your ideal plan?&lt;/strong&gt;

And did you know that Medicare is far from an easy-street plan and that, while seniors love it, it also costs them a pretty penny?

Take one person I know who just signed up.  He gets Medicare A free, but it&#039;s extremely limited to hospitalizations and only for a short time.  He has to pay $95/month for Medicare B, which helps to cover doctors&#039; visits, and all laboratory and other tests, as well as physical therapy, walkers, etc. and many other costs. &lt;strong&gt; That&#039;s right: Basic Medicare doesn&#039;t cover a PENNY of doctors&#039; visits, tests, etc. &lt;/strong&gt; To make up for the huge gap in Medicare A and B coverage, he bought an AARP plan for $146/month.

How does the AARP plan help?  If he has an operation, under Medicare A/B, he&#039;d have to fork over $995 before the hospital would admit him.  &lt;strong&gt;That&#039;s right, under Medicare A, the first $1,000 for hospitalization is up to each senior.
&lt;/strong&gt;

Do you still think Medicare, as it exists, is the simple answer to everyone&#039;s health care coverage?

Then, to get drug coverage, he had to sign up for a Medicare D plan for about $46/month + steep co-pays, and some drugs are not covered at all (on any of the plans).  Then there are the donut-hole exemptions in all of the drug plans -- and which Hillary Clinton addressed in the PBS debate last Thursday night.

That comes to about $350+/month to get decent coverage under the current system of Medicare.

Imagine that you&#039;re living off Social Security and modest savings, and you have to pay out $350/month to get decent Medicare coverage ... or risk having a heart attack or broken hip or something, and having to pay out $1,000 to the hospital off the top.

If you&#039;re hospitalized over 30 days, you have to pay -- I forget exactly -- about $250/300 PER DAY because Medicare A only covers you for 30 days.  And it goes on and on.  Medicare is wonderful, but it is extremely LIMITED unless one gets the necessary add-ons. 

And do you think a plan that covers all of those necessary add-ons would have a prayer of passing Congress?  Think again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You find her health plan wanting, but it&#8217;s very similar to Edwards&#8217; plan and I doubt you condemn his, and that&#8217;s only because he&#8217;s not her.  </p>
<p>One reason that Edwards and Clinton have set up their plans as they have is because they have a shot at getting through Congress which can&#8217;t be said for a single-payer or all-Medicare plan.  In the Thurs. night PBS debate, not one of the Democratic candidates said they support a single-payer insurance plan, and I&#8217;d guess the biggest reason is it has no prayer of passing Congress.  We have to get REAL here &#8230; <strong>would you rather people have NOTHING until you get your ideal plan?</strong></p>
<p>And did you know that Medicare is far from an easy-street plan and that, while seniors love it, it also costs them a pretty penny?</p>
<p>Take one person I know who just signed up.  He gets Medicare A free, but it&#8217;s extremely limited to hospitalizations and only for a short time.  He has to pay $95/month for Medicare B, which helps to cover doctors&#8217; visits, and all laboratory and other tests, as well as physical therapy, walkers, etc. and many other costs. <strong> That&#8217;s right: Basic Medicare doesn&#8217;t cover a PENNY of doctors&#8217; visits, tests, etc. </strong> To make up for the huge gap in Medicare A and B coverage, he bought an AARP plan for $146/month.</p>
<p>How does the AARP plan help?  If he has an operation, under Medicare A/B, he&#8217;d have to fork over $995 before the hospital would admit him.  <strong>That&#8217;s right, under Medicare A, the first $1,000 for hospitalization is up to each senior.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Do you still think Medicare, as it exists, is the simple answer to everyone&#8217;s health care coverage?</p>
<p>Then, to get drug coverage, he had to sign up for a Medicare D plan for about $46/month + steep co-pays, and some drugs are not covered at all (on any of the plans).  Then there are the donut-hole exemptions in all of the drug plans &#8212; and which Hillary Clinton addressed in the PBS debate last Thursday night.</p>
<p>That comes to about $350+/month to get decent coverage under the current system of Medicare.</p>
<p>Imagine that you&#8217;re living off Social Security and modest savings, and you have to pay out $350/month to get decent Medicare coverage &#8230; or risk having a heart attack or broken hip or something, and having to pay out $1,000 to the hospital off the top.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re hospitalized over 30 days, you have to pay &#8212; I forget exactly &#8212; about $250/300 PER DAY because Medicare A only covers you for 30 days.  And it goes on and on.  Medicare is wonderful, but it is extremely LIMITED unless one gets the necessary add-ons. </p>
<p>And do you think a plan that covers all of those necessary add-ons would have a prayer of passing Congress?  Think again.</p>
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		<title>By: taters</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27806</link>
		<dc:creator>taters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you&#039;re right about Barry Goldwater RS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you&#8217;re right about Barry Goldwater RS.</p>
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		<title>By: graywolf</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27796</link>
		<dc:creator>graywolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So slandering a 4-star in time of war and supporting a patently treasonous organization is a set of balls?

Pretty typical of the no-balls crowd of ex-government pencil-necks who are still whining because Bush didn&#039;t listen to them. Aaaaaaawwwwwww.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So slandering a 4-star in time of war and supporting a patently treasonous organization is a set of balls?</p>
<p>Pretty typical of the no-balls crowd of ex-government pencil-necks who are still whining because Bush didn&#8217;t listen to them. Aaaaaaawwwwwww&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RAN</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27689</link>
		<dc:creator>RAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary Clinton, ABC News This Week, September 23, 2007:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3639624

at around the 18.30 mark:

&lt;strong&gt;George Stephanopoulos&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;em&gt;Mayor Giuliani also hit you pretty hard for failing early on to condemn that Move-on.org ad which called General Petraeus General Betrayus. Why not speak out earlier?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Hillary Clinton&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;em&gt;I don&#039;t condone attacks on any American who has served our country honorably and with dedication the way General Petraeus has. I&#039;ve said over many years how much I admire him, respect him he&#039;s been dealt a difficult hand and you know he&#039;s doing the best job he can under the circumstances. I also don&#039;t condone attacks on great Americans like Max Cleland and John Kerry who&#039;ve also served our country. But this is not a debate about an ad, this is a debate about ending the war in Iraq.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Larry Johnson&lt;/strong&gt;, September 10: &lt;em&gt;Then we have the fact that Petraeus and company are cherry picking the data and deliberately painting a false, rosy picture that security in Iraq is better and the violence is abating. Dave and his boys achieved this result by excluding car bombs and other sectarian casualties from the calculation.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Me&lt;/strong&gt;: An honorable man does not cherry-pick data to distort the true picture when our young soldiers are being slaughtered.

Yet Hillary Clinton said it herself today: It&#039;s not about the Move-on ad; Petraeus is an honorable man. 

Clinton fails the smell test. She indulges in pander politics.

I doubt I will ever convince the creators of this blog that Senator Clinton is just more of the same old crap the United States has had to endure for the past 20 or 30 years. I trust her as far as I can throw her...and my back would give out before I could even lift her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Clinton, ABC News This Week, September 23, 2007:</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3639624" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3639624</a></p>
<p>at around the 18.30 mark:</p>
<p><strong>George Stephanopoulos</strong>: <em>Mayor Giuliani also hit you pretty hard for failing early on to condemn that Move-on.org ad which called General Petraeus General Betrayus. Why not speak out earlier?</em></p>
<p><strong>Hillary Clinton</strong>: <em>I don&#8217;t condone attacks on any American who has served our country honorably and with dedication the way General Petraeus has. I&#8217;ve said over many years how much I admire him, respect him he&#8217;s been dealt a difficult hand and you know he&#8217;s doing the best job he can under the circumstances. I also don&#8217;t condone attacks on great Americans like Max Cleland and John Kerry who&#8217;ve also served our country. But this is not a debate about an ad, this is a debate about ending the war in Iraq.</em></p>
<p><strong>Larry Johnson</strong>, September 10: <em>Then we have the fact that Petraeus and company are cherry picking the data and deliberately painting a false, rosy picture that security in Iraq is better and the violence is abating. Dave and his boys achieved this result by excluding car bombs and other sectarian casualties from the calculation.</em></p>
<p><strong>Me</strong>: An honorable man does not cherry-pick data to distort the true picture when our young soldiers are being slaughtered.</p>
<p>Yet Hillary Clinton said it herself today: It&#8217;s not about the Move-on ad; Petraeus is an honorable man. </p>
<p>Clinton fails the smell test. She indulges in pander politics.</p>
<p>I doubt I will ever convince the creators of this blog that Senator Clinton is just more of the same old crap the United States has had to endure for the past 20 or 30 years. I trust her as far as I can throw her&#8230;and my back would give out before I could even lift her.</p>
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		<title>By: RS Janes</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27623</link>
		<dc:creator>RS Janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Taters. It&#039;s true -- a moderate Republican like Ford would be drummed out of the GOP these days; even the founder of modern conservatism, Barry Goldwater, would have had no place in the Bush Rove neocon GOP. (Can you imagine what Goldwater would have said about the White House leaking a CIA agent&#039;s name for political reasons?) 

To give you an idea of how far this country has drifted into the nutball fringe-right &#039;red zone,&#039; Justice John Paul Stevens was appointed to the Supreme Court by Ford as a conservative Republican -- today he is considered one of the most liberal justices on the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Taters. It&#8217;s true &#8212; a moderate Republican like Ford would be drummed out of the GOP these days; even the founder of modern conservatism, Barry Goldwater, would have had no place in the Bush Rove neocon GOP. (Can you imagine what Goldwater would have said about the White House leaking a CIA agent&#8217;s name for political reasons?) </p>
<p>To give you an idea of how far this country has drifted into the nutball fringe-right &#8216;red zone,&#8217; Justice John Paul Stevens was appointed to the Supreme Court by Ford as a conservative Republican &#8212; today he is considered one of the most liberal justices on the court.</p>
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		<title>By: RS Janes</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27621</link>
		<dc:creator>RS Janes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, Blue, did you say something? I guess I was distracted for a minute there. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Blue, did you say something? I guess I was distracted for a minute there. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Badtux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badtux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I do think Hillary is going to win the nomination. Sadly, because she is basically a Republican. As Alan Greenspan said of her husband (who had essentially the same policies), &quot;best Republican President of the past 20 years&quot;.

Take her health plan. Please. The real solution is to cut out the 1/3rd of health care spending currently going to health insurance company profits and administrative overhead by expanding Medicare eligibility to all Americans, not just those 65 years of age or older. Medicare spends 3% of its funds on administration, or roughly 1/10th of what it costs to run the health insurance industry in America.  Old people loves them their Medicare. If it&#039;s good for old farts, why isn&#039;t it good for the rest of us? But Hillary&#039;s plan is to force the American people at gunpoint to support the health insurance industry by forcing them, at gunpoint, to buy health insurance. WTF? How is that a plan for achieving universal coverage of all Americans?!

Still, Hillary isn&#039;t the only candidate without the guts to take on the health insurance mafia. Of the Democrats, only Dennis Kucinich, who has about as much chance of winning as Fred Flintstone, has come out for Medicare For All. And as Larry has pointed out, she appears to be the only candidate with the guts and experience to take on the VRWC, she&#039;s been doing it for the past 15 years and has gotten good at it. There is literally nothing that the VRWC says about Hillary Clinton anymore that will change anybody&#039;s mind in any way. The VRWC could publish photos of her dining upon dead kittens and people would just shake their heads and say &quot;there they go again.&quot; For better or for worse, everybody already has their opinion of Hillary, and it isn&#039;t going to be easily changed by Swift Boating or other such tactics, especially since Hillary isn&#039;t one to back down from that ilk. 

So I am slowly resigning myself to the thought of saying &quot;President Hillary Clinton&quot;. Okay, so she&#039;s a Republican. But she&#039;s a *smart* Republican. Which is why she&#039;s a Democrat, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I do think Hillary is going to win the nomination. Sadly, because she is basically a Republican. As Alan Greenspan said of her husband (who had essentially the same policies), &#8220;best Republican President of the past 20 years&#8221;.</p>
<p>Take her health plan. Please. The real solution is to cut out the 1/3rd of health care spending currently going to health insurance company profits and administrative overhead by expanding Medicare eligibility to all Americans, not just those 65 years of age or older. Medicare spends 3% of its funds on administration, or roughly 1/10th of what it costs to run the health insurance industry in America.  Old people loves them their Medicare. If it&#8217;s good for old farts, why isn&#8217;t it good for the rest of us? But Hillary&#8217;s plan is to force the American people at gunpoint to support the health insurance industry by forcing them, at gunpoint, to buy health insurance. WTF? How is that a plan for achieving universal coverage of all Americans?!</p>
<p>Still, Hillary isn&#8217;t the only candidate without the guts to take on the health insurance mafia. Of the Democrats, only Dennis Kucinich, who has about as much chance of winning as Fred Flintstone, has come out for Medicare For All. And as Larry has pointed out, she appears to be the only candidate with the guts and experience to take on the VRWC, she&#8217;s been doing it for the past 15 years and has gotten good at it. There is literally nothing that the VRWC says about Hillary Clinton anymore that will change anybody&#8217;s mind in any way. The VRWC could publish photos of her dining upon dead kittens and people would just shake their heads and say &#8220;there they go again.&#8221; For better or for worse, everybody already has their opinion of Hillary, and it isn&#8217;t going to be easily changed by Swift Boating or other such tactics, especially since Hillary isn&#8217;t one to back down from that ilk. </p>
<p>So I am slowly resigning myself to the thought of saying &#8220;President Hillary Clinton&#8221;. Okay, so she&#8217;s a Republican. But she&#8217;s a *smart* Republican. Which is why she&#8217;s a Democrat, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: taters</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/866/hillary-has-balls/#comment-27527</link>
		<dc:creator>taters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wells said RS. The entire dynamic has shifted dramatically to the right. Neither Ike nor Jerry Ford could run as a modern day Republican. There is no way anyone who was as strongly in favor of  Affirmative Action as Ford was -  be considered as anything but a fringer in today&#039;s GOP.
Do you remember Ford&#039;s piece in the NYT on Affirmative Action? It still stands as the best piece I recall on the subject.

August 8, 1999
Inclusive America, Under Attack 
By GERALD R. FORD 
Of all the triumphs that have marked this as America&#039;s century -- breathtaking advances in science and technology, the democratization of wealth and dispersal of political power in ways hardly imaginable in 1899 -- none is more inspiring, if incomplete, than our pursuit of racial justice. The milestones include Theodore Roosevelt&#039;s inviting Booker T. Washington to dine at the White House, Harry Truman&#039;s desegregating the armed forces, Dwight Eisenhower&#039;s using Federal troops to integrate Little Rock&#039;s Central High School and Lyndon Johnson&#039;s electrifying the nation by standing before Congress in 1965 and declaring, &#039;&#039;We shall overcome.&#039;&#039; 

I came by my support of that year&#039;s Voting Rights Act naturally. Thirty years before Selma, I was a University of Michigan senior, preparing with my Wolverine teammates for a football game against visiting Georgia Tech. Among the best players on that year&#039;s Michigan squad was Willis Ward, a close friend of mine whom the Southern school reputedly wanted dropped from our roster because he was black. My classmates were just as adamant that he should take the field. In the end, Willis decided on his own not to play. 

His sacrifice led me to question how educational administrators could capitulate to raw prejudice. A university, after all, is both a preserver of tradition and a hotbed of innovation. So long as books are kept open, we tell ourselves, minds can never be closed. 

But doors, too, must be kept open. Tolerance, breadth of mind and appreciation for the world beyond our neighborhoods: these can be learned on the football field and in the science lab as well as in the lecture hall. But only if students are exposed to America in all her variety. 

For the class of &#039;35, such educational opportunities were diminished by the relative scarcity of African-Americans, women and various ethnic groups on campus. I have often wondered how different the world might have been in the 1940&#039;s, 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s -- how much more humane and just -- if my generation had experienced a more representative sampling of the American family. That the indignities visited on Willis Ward would be unimaginable in today&#039;s Ann Arbor is a measure of how far we have come toward realizing, however belatedly, the promises we made to each other in declaring our nationhood and professing our love of liberty. 

And yet. In the last speech of his life, Lyndon Johnson reminded us of how much unfinished work remained. &#039;&#039;To be black in a white society is not to stand on level and equal ground,&#039;&#039; he said. &#039;&#039;While the races may stand side by side, whites stand on history&#039;s mountain and blacks stand in history&#039;s hollow. Until we overcome unequal history, we cannot overcome unequal opportunity.&#039;&#039;
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Small wonder Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford remained close, lifelong friends. And the irony of GWB commenting on the U of Michigan case  - a &lt;strong&gt;public&lt;/strong&gt; university where he would have &lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt; been accepted. He was denied admission to U of T&#039;s law school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wells said RS. The entire dynamic has shifted dramatically to the right. Neither Ike nor Jerry Ford could run as a modern day Republican. There is no way anyone who was as strongly in favor of  Affirmative Action as Ford was &#8211;  be considered as anything but a fringer in today&#8217;s GOP.<br />
Do you remember Ford&#8217;s piece in the NYT on Affirmative Action? It still stands as the best piece I recall on the subject.</p>
<p>August 8, 1999<br />
Inclusive America, Under Attack<br />
By GERALD R. FORD<br />
Of all the triumphs that have marked this as America&#8217;s century &#8212; breathtaking advances in science and technology, the democratization of wealth and dispersal of political power in ways hardly imaginable in 1899 &#8212; none is more inspiring, if incomplete, than our pursuit of racial justice. The milestones include Theodore Roosevelt&#8217;s inviting Booker T. Washington to dine at the White House, Harry Truman&#8217;s desegregating the armed forces, Dwight Eisenhower&#8217;s using Federal troops to integrate Little Rock&#8217;s Central High School and Lyndon Johnson&#8217;s electrifying the nation by standing before Congress in 1965 and declaring, &#8221;We shall overcome.&#8221; </p>
<p>I came by my support of that year&#8217;s Voting Rights Act naturally. Thirty years before Selma, I was a University of Michigan senior, preparing with my Wolverine teammates for a football game against visiting Georgia Tech. Among the best players on that year&#8217;s Michigan squad was Willis Ward, a close friend of mine whom the Southern school reputedly wanted dropped from our roster because he was black. My classmates were just as adamant that he should take the field. In the end, Willis decided on his own not to play. </p>
<p>His sacrifice led me to question how educational administrators could capitulate to raw prejudice. A university, after all, is both a preserver of tradition and a hotbed of innovation. So long as books are kept open, we tell ourselves, minds can never be closed. </p>
<p>But doors, too, must be kept open. Tolerance, breadth of mind and appreciation for the world beyond our neighborhoods: these can be learned on the football field and in the science lab as well as in the lecture hall. But only if students are exposed to America in all her variety. </p>
<p>For the class of &#8217;35, such educational opportunities were diminished by the relative scarcity of African-Americans, women and various ethnic groups on campus. I have often wondered how different the world might have been in the 1940&#8242;s, 50&#8242;s and 60&#8242;s &#8212; how much more humane and just &#8212; if my generation had experienced a more representative sampling of the American family. That the indignities visited on Willis Ward would be unimaginable in today&#8217;s Ann Arbor is a measure of how far we have come toward realizing, however belatedly, the promises we made to each other in declaring our nationhood and professing our love of liberty. </p>
<p>And yet. In the last speech of his life, Lyndon Johnson reminded us of how much unfinished work remained. &#8221;To be black in a white society is not to stand on level and equal ground,&#8221; he said. &#8221;While the races may stand side by side, whites stand on history&#8217;s mountain and blacks stand in history&#8217;s hollow. Until we overcome unequal history, we cannot overcome unequal opportunity.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Small wonder Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford remained close, lifelong friends. And the irony of GWB commenting on the U of Michigan case  &#8211; a <strong>public</strong> university where he would have <strong>not</strong> been accepted. He was denied admission to U of T&#8217;s law school.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue in ID</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue in ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, a lot of Americans have no clue of what a straw man argument means and have a maximum attention span of two minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, a lot of Americans have no clue of what a straw man argument means and have a maximum attention span of two minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan,
Please update your Bushie dictionary. They&#039;re no longer using the &quot;v&quot; word, and substitute it with the &quot;success&quot; word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,<br />
Please update your Bushie dictionary. They&#8217;re no longer using the &#8220;v&#8221; word, and substitute it with the &#8220;success&#8221; word.</p>
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