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JJJ Is An Informant + Open Thread

As Patrick Buchanan insisted in his recent provocative, thoughtful essay, “What Obama Offered Blagojevich,” which I wrote about on December 13, 2008, it was incumbent on any member of Obama’s team to report any suspect “pay-to-play” conversations — immediately — to the F.B.I. and/or to the U.S. Attorney’s office in Chicago, Illinois.

Now we learn that one elected Illinois official did just that, but only in cases prior to the recent scandal over who would fill Barack Obama’s vacated U.S. Senate seat.

The question now is: Who is currently an informant to the F.B.I. and U.S. Attorneys overseeing the latest allegations against Blagojevich? Here are lists and biographies of the Obama team principals. TAKE YOUR PICK:

New York Times: The New Team (includes profiles and drop-down menus for cabinet level, key appointments, and browse by name) || Transition Team, American University || “Presidential Transitions” [pdf],” ongressional Research Service || “Presidential Transition,” General Services Administration

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From CNN’s “Jackson, Jr. an informant to Blago investigations“:

Sources close to Rep. Jackson, Jr. told CNN Tuesday that the Illinois congressman has supplied information regarding Gov. Blagojevich to federal law enforcement officials since 2006.

SPRINGFIELD, Illinois (CNN) — Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. — who was cited in a criminal complaint against Rod Blagojevich — has been an informant for at least a decade with the U.S. Attorney’s office, and has informed on the embattled governor of Illinois, though not in the case currently under investigation, Jackson spokesman Kenneth Edmonds told CNN Tuesday.

Below are a description of the “shakedown” of Jesse, Jr. demanded by Governor Blagojevich, as well as some theories being discussed on the blogs (which may or may not have merit):

In addition, two sources close to Jackson told CNN that, in 2002, Blagojevich — then running for governor of Illinois — solicited a $25,000 campaign donation from Jackson, which he did not get.

At the time, Jackson’s wife, Sandi, was a candidate for the job of director of the state’s Lottery Commission, a post she did not win, the sources said.

After Blagojevich took office, in early 2003, he told Jackson something to the effect of, “You see what $25,000 would have done?” the sources said.

In 2006, Jackson reported the incident, which he believed to have been an attempt at a shakedown, the sources said. …

Read all of CNN’s “Jackson, Jr. an informant to Blago investigations.”

Riehl World View offers this theory:

Uh “O”, … Connect These Two Dots

Allegedly Jessie Jackson Jr. has talked to the Feds about Blago since 2006 when he feels he was the target of a $25,000 shakedown over his wife being up for a slot with the state lottery. Now recall Jackson senior suggesting he’d like to remove a certain part of Obama’s anatomy for “talking down to black people” on this “faith based,” whatever he was referring to. There may well might be more to the animosity than that. In a sense, there are two camps emerging as Obama was definitely a Blago guy given his high profile in support of Blago’s political campaigns. One of them the very same one in which Jackson Jr. felt he was the target of a shakedown.

Inject some serious bad blood between groups of people, all inside players in a Chicago now engulfed in scandal, and it might lead to all sorts of interesting information coming out. If nothing else, I can understand why Obama might want a little vacation. Maybe he should wear a cup if he goes bodysurfing. He could get hurt if Reverend Jackson Sr decides he wants to collect his prize. …

Emptywheel at Firedoglake has other theories.

Check out more posts at Memeorandum.com.

Actually, so far, we don’t have enough to correctly surmise who else is cooperating with authorities and/or if any of Obama’s staff members have been reporting suspicious conversations to the F.B.I. or U.S. Attorney’s office — as they should have, all along.

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OPEN THREAD

  • heartland dem

    B-B-B-B BUT THIS IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN POLITICIAN FROM CHICAGO!!!!

    He MUST be corrupt!

    This post needs to be scrubbed, ASAP.

    • R2D2

      Don’t be silly. Being an Afro-American from Chicago has nothing to do with the corrupt practices that go back to the old Mayor Daily. Don’t insert race because it’s not what the issue is. If JJJr was an informant, it does not mean that he might have been willing to play ball for a bigger prize. It’s not the first time that someone makes a 180 degree shift for some material gain.

      • stodgie

        there is no way in hell that supporters come forward with offers of raising a million dollars for the gov without the ok from jjj. i can’t think of anyone worth their salt who allows people to run around popping off to the gov about that much money. and frankly i doubt a supporter who could do that would rush foward talking about that kind of money without some sense that it was kosher.

        • Diana L. C.

          Or with some sense that Blago may have found a way to accept it. Then if JJJr is an informant, they do have Blago.

          Caught the end of Lou Dobbs last night. They’re all going on about how inept Fitzgerald is, that there’s nothing on Blago, that Fizgerald may lose his job, that All politicians do what Blago does–it’s part of the process, etc., but they just don’t use language like Blago.

          I just want a resolution, and I don’t want it to fall on the Scooter Libby level of all of this. It needs to get everyone.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

            US representative Jesse Jackson Jr reportedly worked with investigators
            Jackson has been fighting to protect his reputation since the scandal over Rod Blagojevich broke
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/17/rod-blagojevich-jesse-jackson-jr-illinois

            A report on WLS-TV in Chicago, quoting unidentified sources, said Jackson, son of the civil rights activist Jesse Jackson, had told investigators about another alleged incident that predated the present scandal.
            …………

            Anyone seen the TV report?

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

              http://www.whataboutourdaughters.com/2008/12/statement-from-jesse-jackson-jr/
              “As a responsible citizen and elected official, Congressman Jackson has in the past provided information to federal authorities regarding his personal knowledge of perceived corruption and governmental misconduct.This was completely unrelated to the current federal investigation regarding the U.S. Senate appointment. And it is absolutely inaccurate to describe the Congressman as an informant.”

              Kenneth Edmonds, spokesman for Congressman Jackson.
              ………….

              JJjr’s statement for the press.

              • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

                Jesse Jackson Jr.’s Been Snitching On Blagojevich For YEARS (Maybe!)
                http://www.wikio.com/video/695942
                ………….
                JJjr, they put in the wikio.

                • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

                  Jesse Jackson Jr. – Informant for US Attorney
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmpewHomWdk&feature=related
                  ……..
                  Youtube link

                • lark

                  He also snitches on his neighbors failure to recycle plastics and parking illegally overnight.

                  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

                    Ah, come on now, JJjr is captain of his neighborhood watch, give the guy a break.

                    • beebop

                      He is just the kind of guy I wouldn’t want living next to me. Just sayin’ … and no, it has nothing to do with skin.

      • nancy sabet

        obama will pay to play, but Jessy? I doubt it!

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82qCwLX9piE Woman Voter

          The Plot Thickens…Illinois Supreme Court refusing to hear motion of Gov. Blago being ‘unfit’.

          • lark

            That says volume and I make a prediction.

            First I am not a lawyer and I knew it.

            Second that then says that the one unfit to perform her duties is Ms. Madigan and those who were supporting her. There now we now who are the unfit.

            Because she is unfit as AG now we know she goes to the top of the line to be named Senator to replace Obanana.

            Also voters will then endear themselves to her since she is unfit and now she should be leading in case of special elections.

            • Chicago Joe

              Yeah, that was all politics to make Lisa look like a dragonslayer. Her stepfather is Illinois Speaker of the House Mike Madigan, and she has been, and is being groomed for higher office. Generally, she is well thought of, but my opinion of her has decreased a little bit because this whole move smacks of politics rather than being the people’s lawyer.

    • uppity woman

      Oh look. The Race Card. That’s new.

    • candymarl

      Blago’s not black and he’s the one that was arrested. Being black neither makes you virtuous, dirty, nor gives you a get out of jail free card.

      You’re one of those that also missed MLK’s point.

      Not color of skin but content of character.

    • kgirl1028

      any body got a pair of stilettos i can throw at this gullible fool? I promise i won’t miss. But if she mentions race one more damn time i’m going to nail her right between the eyes unlike that iraqi jounalist cause i’m ging to practice.

      • Crippled Burbank Widow

        But if she mentions race one more damn time…

        What do you expect? This blog’s primary interest in Blago was to attempt to tie him to its number one scary negro, Obama, but when that fell flat, the primary interest shifted to an attempt to tie him to the backup scary negro, Jess Jackson, Jr.

        And when that fell flat as well, the focus was redirected to attempts to tie him to the number one scary negro again.

        Sorry, but the white fright contingent here, and I’m looking at you, Larry, is the laughing stock of the internet, and no amount of stories about slightly crazier bigots (see Steve Marmon piece above for example) will change that– although I’m sure you’re going to keep trying.

        • bemused

          CBW, you must be UBM’s soul mate, you are so ready to see white people hating black ones. Get over yourself and stop telling AAs they are scared of blacks, you look silly.

  • TeakWoodKite

    The chairs are sliding across the poop deck. In formant in some circles , Rat in others…

    – A perplexing new chapter is unfolding in Barack Obama’s racial saga: Many people insist that “the first black president” is actually not black. So now Obama is a self described ‘mutt”?
    (Not sure about the rules on quoting AP, if not allowed, please strike.)

    • kgirl1028

      yes obama is 1/2 black but for alot of AA that makes no difference. However he does not have the same history as african americans. Infact his fathers people sold my people to his mother people. Last time our history crossed we ended up chained to the bottom of boats. Another reason i do not trust him. I even think marrying michelle was something that for him had far more to do with politics than with love. Don’t get me wrong, she adores obama, i’m just not buying how he feels about her.

      • Diana L. C.

        He needed her for his image. He’s a young family man with nice children, etc.

      • Kal

        Or racial hierarchies. His own little plantation operation, so to speak.

      • Crippled Burbank Widow

        Last time our history crossed we ended up chained to the bottom of boats. Another reason i do not trust him.

        “our” history.

        “his” people.

        “my” people.

        “another reason.”

        Honey, you’ve just perfectly, if inadvertently, illustrated the tangled rationale of bigotry.

        • Pennsylvania Red

          kgirl1028 is African-American.

        • Wisewoman

          Crippled Burbank Widow: You just demonstrated your ignorance of the worst lying racist on the planet whose name is Barack Hussein Obama. I am black, marched with Dr. King, followed black issues and this election extremely close and I have never witnessed a more blatant racial game played during this election season than the one played on the Clintons by both Obama (race lies and statement sent to all media outlets) and Jessie Jackson (we have to analyze her meaning Hillary tears. she did not cry for the victims of Katrina). They made up racially tinged lies, got others to go along with them and had them issuing “condemning statements” through out the primaries and general election. They played with the race fire. For that I depise them both. They are without any measure of honor or integrity.
          After what these two did don’t come here accusing people on this site of being racial bigots. Those two and their cohorts are the bigots. I can guarantee you one thing those two and Michelle are laughing at silly peiople like you. If walls had ears you would be crying at their lack of respect for you. THEY USED YOU AND YOUR KIND TO ADVANCE THEIR CAREERS.

      • mimi

        kgirl1028,

        You and I are on the same wavelength.

        As AAs, you and I both understand that 0bama as a biracial man, especially, HAD to marry someone who emphasized his connection to the black community because he had none.

        So he picked a wife for whom there would be no doubt about her being AA. He would not have married a woman who looked like Halle Berry or Vanessa Williams, for example. Michelle was the right color tone and the AA community bought it hook, line and sinker.

        It was a marriage spawned out of his personal ambition.

        I’m also not buying how he feels about her.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Sounds like a whole lot of cya.

    The longer this stays in the news — the better it is for all of us — because the mess in Chicago really needs to be exposed to the sunlight. Everyone I know who is from Chicago tells me that politics in Chicago has always been dirty.

    One of my friends was born in Chicago and grew up there and then lived in New Orleans for a few years — so N.O. corruption wasn’t that much different to a Chicago native.

  • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

    The “sources” are obviously sympathetic to Jackson, so we need to take “informant” with a grain of salt. How do we know the FBI didn’t approach Jackson to ask him what he knew? Blago’s been under investigation forever. And, if Jackson was an informant who apparently talked to Blago about the Senate seat, why didn’t he cooperate with the US Attorney in this case?
    Spin.

  • WIldChild

    I wonder if an icy chill is going to sweep over every congressional office that JJJ enters from now on? Or do you think everyone will be face nice to him and proceed to talk about generalized pleasantries until he leaves and everyone can get back to business?

    • beebop

      Snitch has some rather unpopular cultural inferences doesn’t it?

    • Thinker

      lol @ JJJ being an informant.

      I’m guessing people won’t talk around him anymore.

      Kind of like the icy chill T.I gets when he comes around any of the other rappers. ** ha! **

      I know the streets say no snitching, but hey, if it keeps you out of jail…

      do you then.

      I want someone to “snitch” on Obama.

      Tell it all!!!

      • TeakWoodKite

        I want someone to “snitch” on Obama.

        They are.

  • uppity woman

    Sounds like Junior’s friends are conveniently helping him with PR. It certainly makes him look better. I don’t believe a word any of these chicago thugs have to say.He wants that seat.

    • stodgie

      i think hell will freeze over now before jjj get the senate seat. he thinks he is in clear because of spinning, but i noticed the fat lady warming up still as i came in today.

    • workingclass artist

      Spin…Spin…Spin…Oh Brother!

  • lark

    The problem with convicting Blago is that Blago in all of this has been doing what Governor’s do, what they get elected for, his job. All informants and dirt raisers have either an axe to grind or may misquote and misinterpret the facts to suit their purposes. So the FBI will with much difficulty prove their case or most probably fail to convict Blago.

    On the other hand those being exposed through Blago become targets since they themselves become carriers of goods or emissaries rising favors for others. They themselves are the violators of codes.

    If JJjr. was an informant at any place prior to Blagogate, then that complicates legal matters for the FBI every step of the way and makes Blago’s defense easier to produce. JJjr. may have probably planted dirt or subjected Blago to entrapment, or more probably misrepresented the facts.

    To me, Blago seems only doing his job and people around him trying to profit from getting him to act in a certain way. He may have solicited bribes but may also have a few alibis of his own – like ‘I did my job.’ To be convicted of soliciting a bribe for a politician is not that easy specially if everyone says the payment never happened, the good never went through.

    • wodiej

      So you think Blago was just doing his job trying to bribe his way into a Senate seat? The bribe might not have concluded but soliciting one is still a crime. Others trying to get him to act in a certain way…I’d like to see that defense in court.

      • lark

        I am saying Blago can put a strong defense. He can raise many doubts. Not so others like JJjr., Rahm, Obama and many others.

    • elise

      I’ve heard Patrick Fitzgerald has a very high conviction rate because he doesn’t bring the charges unless he believes he can win.

      JJJ hired a lawyer and he is also parsing his words. Why isn’t someone in the Windy City straight forward?

  • AF catfish

    Cruise Alternet and CommonDreams – the libs are ppiiissed.

    And Obama’s last three HIDEOUS cabinet picks – Tom Vilsack for Agriculture Secretary and Arne Duncan for Education, Salazer for Interior, are really bad.

    Vilsack for Agriculture, that is really really bad.

    • beebop

      Duncan for Education? Seriously? A white man fixing public education? From Illinois not particularly known for great schools?

      This would have been the PERFECT Latino pick. English as a second language is one of America’s biggest emerging problems. I guess when you only speak English like the 0bama’s, you may not be aware of that as an issue?

      • lark

        Obama is one disappointment after the other.

  • nan

    joe scraborough on msnbc very interesting now a days
    finally speaking out and questioning the fraud obamas connections to chicago crooks.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not your Sweetie

    And the fleecing of the B0bots never stops
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/fleecing-the-b0bots/

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JJJ himself said he was not an *informant*. From what it sounds like, when Rezko gotbusted, and there were ties to Blago, JJJ came forward and said that THREE years ealier, Blago made a comment that JJJ’s wife didn’t get the job because JJJ didn’t pay to play.

    Sounds to me like JJJ ran to tell his story, after three years, to CYA. And, the news reports are that JJJ had nothing to do with this current case.

    So…I think the claims by the media that JJJ has been an informant for a decade are quite misleading.

    His wife was screwed out of a job because JJJ didn’t realize that by not donating to Blago, she wouldn’t get the job.

    But THREE years later, once Rezko was arrested, and Blago was named, JJJ came forward.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/16/blagojevich/

  • yttik

    Just a few days ago Jesse Jr was crying on TV like a man in a panic. Now he’s beaming like the cat that swallowed the canary. I’m an informant,I’ve been an informant for years, yeah that’s the story!

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not your Sweetie

    Read the fine print: an informant, but not in this case. he very likely had no idea of the Senate for sle investigation, hence the fundraiser. Will his wearing a wire get him off? And how did the feds get him to wear a wire? It’s usually a trade off – he got off the hook from another crime.

    • lark

      May also get Blago off since he went to see Blago at his office and not the other way around.

  • Mandelay

    This story seems to be losing ground on the t.v. news due to the “outcry” of support of Caroline Kennedy for Hill’s senate seat (Harry Reid grabbed the headlines last night with his “endorsement”), and now this twist with JJJ. Also, some commentators were saying Fitzgerald broke this story to keep his job, giving it a different spin on some of last night’s news programs.

  • C.S.

    No matter who gets the senate seat, The People are the losers because none of this has anything to do with democracy and our Constitutional government that is about to be headed by the guy now called Obama who thinks he has a right to tell the governor who can have senate seats just because he used Chicago methods to “win” the use of Our White House for four years.

    This feud among the members of the Chicago machine is just a distraction from the reality of what is happening to our country and to us. More attention is being paid to this fallout among thieves than the reality of major economic systems failing, millions becoming homeless and hungry in “the land of plenty”, and two source draining 6 year wars that must be paid for from our dwindling tax dollars and our worldwide prestige in such tatters that other countries are throwing everything from grenades to shoes at our representatives.

    It is obvious from the last election that We the People have no say about who gets nominated or wins elections because there is a very distinct demarcation between Us and those who rule Us. We couldn’t even stop the blatant political stealing of our votes to give Obama this “win”! We want to believe that there is a White Knight that can restore our former power and glory but whether Fitzgerald can do more than scratch the surface of long established corruption is doubtful. Fitzgerald will certainly have to move more quickly than he is to get to the kernel of truth of Soertoro/Obama’s involvement, though, before the political parties that run the country turn the government over to him. I think one question that I’d like Fitzgerald to discover the answer to is why did the Chicago machine take a chance on unknown, mysterious Obama with citizenship issues over the young, handsome white governor? That answer would explain a lot about why Soertoro has gotten away with so much.

    • lark

      who thinks he has a right to tell

      Everyone what to do, everyday, on every case.

  • Linda C.

    I can figure this so many ways. 1. JJJ was upset that he wasn’t considered for a spot with Obama even after working so hard and crying all night after the election. This meant he would have to play Blago’s game to get what he really wanted, a Senate seat. 2. JJJ supporters upset with the pass over of JJJ in the Obama admin after all of his hard work and crying on election night went to Blago without JJJ’s knowledge. 3. Blago, knowing that JJJ was a snitch, set him up. Blago figuring he was going to go down anyway was going to take JJJ with him.

    It was “obvious”, (we still don’t have everything) that Blago didn’t trust either Obama or JJJ. Blago was unwilling to wait for the subtle tones of “appreciation” to be delivered at a later date by Obama versus wanting the money up front from JJJ. Is it only me who views the “appreciation” from the Obama camp as a tired line from the “Sopranos”?

    • lark

      I agree with 1 and 3 not 2. Yes, obvious. And think about it, if you put Blago on the stand to testify on his case, he will tell the jury that in every case his intention was to name himself to the post and that all these people were hell bent in bribing him as to sway him from doing so. So what that means? – to waste a question. It means that he puts everyone in jeopardy and raises a doubt onto himself. In my opinion, Fitzgeral may convict many others but may not be able to convict Blago.

      Blago shines the light on all these corrupted people and shines the light on their corrupted practices, loosing everything himself but taking the entire structure down with him.

  • ecoast

    I don’t think JJJ was an informant on this current wiretap. He would have advised his supporters against the fund-raising, etc. This was only a reference to some previous stuff that happened years ago. We know now that on the Saturday prior to Blago’s arrest, JJJ supporters (and these are Blago supporters too) held a luncheon fund raiser and Blago was there. On Sunday, JJJ held a hour and half meeting w/ Blago (in person, Fitz has no wire on this). Now JJJ was worried what Blago would tell Fitz about that Sunday mtg. That’s how Fitz squeezes JJJ. What does JJJ have to trade up?

    • lark

      I agree.

  • Evolve and Learn

    What if obama has been a fed informant the whole time? Hear me out.
    It would explain obama magically chosing chicago to live. It would explain why he is connected to so many bad characters- wright, pleger, farrankhan, ayers, rezko, blag. I have read more then once on this blog that obama has no good friends maybe it is by design. This is why nothing “sticks”. The thing that puzzled me was the mansion. Obama definitely played dirty and got in bed with the bad guys to get that mansion but maybe he had to get some dirt on him so he can be trusted. It has also been reported he was involve in those weekly poker games where people who wanted to influence pols would show up and “lose” big to the pols.
    I think we all need to remove our emotions from this thing and look at the logic. Obama being a fbi informant would explain alot for me. I am jusy saying.

    Evolve and learn people…evolve and learn.

    • lark

      Good theory but difficult to correlate with reality. If Obanana was hired by the FBI after graduating from Harvard then his ascension to power would not have been that swift. Obanana is rather what we know he is. No excuses.

    • sarainitaly

      i think if that were the case, they would have created a better back story on him, and provided more background, school transcripts, etc.

    • Ferd Berfle

      And the moon really is made of green cheese. LMAO.

      evolve and learn

      You’re a future Darwin Award winner.

  • DAB

    What is beyond comprehension is that ANYONE would have ANY conversations beyond the most mundane with Blago, knowing full well that he was under heavy surveillance and investigation. What a bunch of maroons!

  • AnnieO

    According to the CNN article, JJJ FORGOT about his wife not get the lottery job for 3 years, and the Rezko investigation jogged his memory. Whateva!

    As for him being an informant for over 10 years, I’m not buying it for a second. He’s just digging himself in deeper with bullshit like that, IMO.

  • Mandelay

    An informant? Obama? This makes me think of the t.v. show “Wiseguy,” except that Vinny got beat up a lot in the line of duty. But let’s say Obama did work for the Feds. How does this explain his path to the nomination via well-documented caucus fraud? Or his “birth certificate/birth place” cover-up? Or his moving the DNC headquarters to Chicago? (Is the entire DNC working for the Feds? Was the “Chicago Combine” planning to go national via the DNC?) Obama? An informant? I’d much rather watch “Wiseguy.” At least Terranova got it right.

    • csuzeq

      Damn I loved that show! Especially the story line with Kevin Spacey! That made his career!

  • workingclass artist

    agree with you AnnieO…Sounds like BS…Sheeesh!

    • AnnieO

      And based on those incredible assertions in the article, I’m thinking JJJ will try to lie to the FBI. Martha Stewart would tell him that’s a very bad move.

      • workingclass artist

        lol…She could have him on her show…

        • AnnieO

          Making license plates!

          • Pennsylvania Red

            don’t forget the grosgrain ribbon border around the plate

            • AnnieO

              LOL! Functional and attractive! It’s always a great day when you get to pull out the ole hot glue gun.

  • Indy G-Dog

    Has anyone read the cover story in this week’s Newsweek?

    (Normally I don’t bother with it, the corporate owned media no more than a PR organ for the politicians, and reading like one, but this one caught my eye, finally speaking up for someone who needs to be championed against the inexecrable Bush kooks).

    Anyway, the guy, Thomas Tamm, went to the NYT with info about Bush’s illegal wiretapping, (PROTECTING THE CONSTITUTION)and now is being persecuted by a kook of an FBI agent (who hires these morons, anyway?)

    It should stop.

    Another interesting tidbit regarded a woman named Maureen Baginski, former FBI agent(!), now an “intel memeber” of team Obama, up for a position as head of the NSA.

    (We were wondering about the leaks to Obama’s office re Blago, I’m not in anyway saying she had anything to do with it, but you can kind of see how info can be leaked, and compromised).

  • Indy G-Dog

    Dana Milbank, of the WAPO, has an interesting column, today, about Obama, and his press conferences, channeling Bush, apparently, down to using “the same techniques” of non answers when faced with a difficult question.

    Worth a read, and good to know not everyone is giving him a free ride.

    Obama will talk basketball, though.

    The country facing catastophic circumstances, and Obama talking B-Ball.

    Get the impression Obama isn’t really an intellectual?

    Smart people like to chew on ideas, smart people like to be challenged, smart people rise above the thought structure of David Axelrod.

    Well, maybe Obama will be only one term, maybe he’ll hire real talent, offering the press something to chew on, I would think no one wants to babysit another four years — with the exception of the Chris Matthews type, but they’re not asking for intelligent conversation, anyway.

    • Chicago Joe

      Run to DRUDGE to see the picture of BHO he has posted there.

  • stodgie

    desperate men say and do desperate things. jjj doesn’t want to wear orange anytime soon hence i am a bird singing for fitz. sure jjj, yeah right!

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6EVFvwubJQ&feature=channel_page

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLNo4zUok8&feature=channel_page

    FYI…these are videos we did of Dr. Orly Taitz, our angel who has a case in SCOTUS against Fraudbama in California. Listen to her argument. She’s going to spread this around big time.

  • educatedwhitewoman

    Sure looks like pay to play to me – from td blog:

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/5046-s-greenwood-ave-a-special-place/#more-5626

    “The deed for the house that the Obama’s purchased for $300k less than the asking price is from Frederic Wondisford and his wife, Sally Radovic, to the Obama’s Northern Trust Company Land Trust #10209 (established as such for “confidentiality”) is dated 15 June 2005 and is recorded 21 June 2005 as Document #0517233010.

    Declared value is $1,650,000.00.

    The deed for the vacant lot is from Wondisford/Radovic to Rita M. Rezko. This deed is dated 15 June 2005 and recorded a day earlier, on 20 June 2005 as Document #0517133004.

    Declared value is $625,000.00.

    Examination of the Cook County records very clearly indicates that Rita M. Rezko conveyed the entire lot to Obama’s Northern Trust Company Land Trust #10209 on 11 January 2006 and recorded 16 February 2006 as Document #0604733162.

    Declared value is $104,500.00.

    VERY IMPORTANTLY, thorough and careful examination of all Cook County land records fails to locate a deed back to Rita M. Rezko from the Obama’s Northern Trust Company Land Trust #10209.There is a “wild’ deed indicated from Rita M. Rezko to “5050 S. Greenwood LLC”. This is an Illinois limited liability corporation with the same address as Rezmar Corporation that is registered to the indicted Tony Rezko. (This deed is considered “wild” because it is not supported by any ownership deed from the Obama’s Land Trust.)

    Furthermore, Tony Rezko’s registered corporation, 5050 S. Greenwood LLC, then pledges the entire vacant lot in favor of a mortgage THAT IS STILL OPEN with Fifth Third Bank for the amount of $375,000.00.
    This is Document #0703357023 recorded 2 February 2007.

    THUS, THE ENTIRE VACANT LOT IS TITLED TO SEN. BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA (IN THEIR LAND TRUST FOR CONFIDENTIALITY) AND ALLOWED BY SENATOR BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA TO BE PLEDGED BY A TONY REZKO CORPORATION TO SECURE A LOAN.

    This is contrary to what has been stated by Senator Obama; contrary to what has been stated by Senator Obama’s campaign staff, and contrary to what has been reported. It must be noted that a seemingly intelligent Harvard educated attorney does not make such unknowing errors as stated above. The above is obvious intent not “oversight”.

    The home property description is 20-11-115-034-0000 The (entire) lot description is 20-11-115-035-0000.

    Originally, the entire piece of property was one description…so that the Obama’s could afford purchase, they pressed for the split. To do this, the county had to assign two property descriptions for each conveyance…and so that they could close on the same day as insisted by seller.

    Thus, to answer your question, which can very easily be determined…to sell only a portion of the lot, there would have to be assigned two (new) property descriptions for the lot…but that was never done and, obviously, not desired or requested. Proof positive that Obama and Rezko are partners. Everything that he said was false…Note, too, that Obama’s campaign stated that Rita Rezko sold the lot to Michael Sreenam, one of her husband’s attorneys…as the fable goes, for a profit…to make the whole scenario plausible…”

    • lark

      If this is the case, because this issue was one of the first issues that the campaign had to clarify and that Obama had to clarify to the press in order to build public confidence on his leadership and character, then one can assertively say that Obama committed public fraud or public deception and these are ground for impeachment of PEBO.

      Now we can say with certainty: Impeach PEBO. This is certainly a qualified petition in my mind that citizens can make to their Congresspersons.

    • lark

      If this is the case then Hillary should submit her resignation for SOS and hire an attorney and sue Obama for damanges against herself and her 2008 campaign.

    • lark

      If this is the case this issue needs to get a full page exposure in the Wall Street Journal and U.S.A. Today.

      Obama must be impeached for lying to the press during the campaign. This egregious behavior from Obama and his campaign needs to be brought to the courts and people need to be accountable to the public.

    • lark

      If this is the case we need to have NQ cover this issue in an article on its own with special comments from Larry, Susan and other contributors of NQ.

      NQ cannot allow this issue to go without challenge. We here can support some kind of activity directed at bringing this issue to the fore of MSM and other media.

      Obama has committed FRAUD against the people of the U.S.A.

    • stodgie

      there SHOULD BE A PAPER TRAIL with all the deed information. however? how can rezko borrow money on the land if it were deeded to the obamas. that would be even more questionable. you can’t borrow on what you don’t own. i have never read the zoning or special conditions for historic homes in chicago but i’d almost bet that the history commissioners of the city would have to approve this or at least the designated city official. there are very specific rules about breaking such lots up and in places like chicago i would be willing to bet that overall the rules are strict. i have read that the lot is now of no use what so ever. again it is still is big enough to build on but perhaps the restrictions don’t permit it. again i have never seen any rules regarding this.

      • bemused

        There is a Historical Society, and guess what, MO was on the board and shepherded through the zoning change just before buying the house.
        And the paper trail leads to a lawyer who seems to actually own it, through a trust.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    Isn’t this disgraceful? A whole bunch of idiot sheeple sitting around thinking that total FRAUD is legit and he’s quite possibly the most vile, crooked politician in America’s history. Why in God’s name doesn’t Fitzgerald just get this guy out of our hair and indict him for all the FRAUD? It’s getting to be every day that there’s some filthy scandal with Fraudbama’s name on it. And no one will touch him because the AAs have told us they will riot and burn this country to the ground if we do anything to their Jesus Lord Christ Savior the Fraud. Joke’s gonna be on them, and all the other Kool-aid drinking swine soon. Time to pull up a chair, pop a bottle of bubbly, and watch the fireworks. I don’t care who the Fraud thinks he is…he can’t stay above the law for four whole years. I say not even one full year. Cuff him Fitzie.

  • FembotsForObama

    what I want to know is why Fitzgerald has been talking to Connor, the bank appraiser in the Rezko/Obama land deal, and Connor’s lawyer these past few weeks.

    • AnnieO

      Someone said that there is a renewed interest in the Rezko/Obama land deal.

    • stodgie

      i don’t think connor was the appraiser. he was sort of the quality control guy for the bank that made the loan and actually hired a second appraiser for a value. then his comments were pulled from the file and he was fired. hence the lawsuit. now i believe the second appraiser may be been questioned. i would guess the first appraiser may have lawyered up by now.

    • Zeke

      I dropped the dime on the appraiser to the Illinois Appraisal Licensing people quite a few months ago and explained the particulars to them at that time.
      I quit appraisal when the mortgage stink was just starting and KNEW the deal was fraudulent from the start. There are rules on how financing works and there was no way that the appraiser could describe the transaction as fitting within the legal parameters for a Federally Insured Loan.
      There is no doubt that what Obama/Rezko did also violates the “Gift” rule to an elected official also.
      The crimes are not arguable. What remains is the question of whether they are ever prosecuted.

  • stodgie

    fitz could also have a renewed interest also due to the publicity about fraud in loans right now. he certainly isn’t a news hound by any means. but it might raise his interest more than it normally might. remember it is the small things that can get the big fish. i give you capone for example. in THE FIRM, it was mail fraud and overbilling.