Poisons of the Year

Thank you. It is my view as well. I think of the disillusion to come and I want to weep. Instead, I’ll just be standing to the side pointing them in another direction. I can’t imagine what the backlash will be.

Human beings are the only creatures on Earth that allow their children to come back home.

Adolescence is a period of rapid changes. Between the ages of 12 and 17, for example, a parent ages as much as 20 years.

This is a very well written article. And it goes to the heart of the matter. Nothing but the truth.

Thank you New Hampster. I heartily agree. I might add, however, that Jay Carney, editor at Time magazine, is leaving the publication to become Vice President-elect Joe Biden’s director of communications. No surprise there–Time has chosen Barack Obama as its 2008 Person of the Year.

Is there no place where the sticky strands of this web do not reach?

What do they know of “ownership”? Texting at the speed of a teenager is a remarkable thing to watch.

They won’t what they had till it’s gone…and then what?

Great read New Hampster. I hope your wheel didn’t freeze up.

[...] Poisons of the Year : NO QUARTER They are trolls of the worst sort who have and show no respect for others who may not hold their opinions. They basically are the generation that we loused up by not teaching the simplest skills of adult human discourse. … [...]

I get that they voted against their own interests futures. They got screwed bamboozled and don’t even know it.

GLOBE breaks the story. Front page shows BO’s photo and question about his BC.

this is a test

The Times Person of the Year has been a joke for years. Total BS. So the BS feature of the Year crowns the Phony-elect…what else can be more appropriate?

Really great post, NewHampster – thanks from one old McGovern supporter to another. A great tonic for the aptly named Poisons of the Year would be enforced reading of John Kass’s Chicago Trib column for at least a solid year. The guy’s a genuine journalist (a nearly extinct species) and has that Real Sout’ Sider thing going – he knows just how phony Barky is. Kass’s recent Blago columns are pure gold.

I finally told my kids – I used to worry about the kind of world I was leaving for you… and now I realize that you are going to vote this upon yourselves, and I am going to have to live with it. The upside, I guess, is I feel no sense of guilt, you are doing it to yourselves. In the name of HOPE.

Unfortunately, the downside is, it may not be fixable.

they did a study on the “multi-tasking”. It was a news story on NPR. It basically ended up saying that these kids are, in essence, not good at anything. They are like junkies and get a high off of it. The study showed that even though they could do 5 things at once, they lacked sophistication. In other words, they can do 5 thinks Okay, but can’t do anything good or excel at it. Kind of like a mutli-tasking ADD, if you will.

The study also showed that it was addictive. The kids couldn’t concentrate long enough on one thing, without “jonesing” for the chaos that comes with this type of multi-tasking.

Which like you said, causes them to not read the whole story. This also can explain why they are so apt to spew one line propaganda. If its more complicated than a couple of sentences, they don’t want to go there. Give me a line to repeat, and on to the next thing. Laziness of the mind. Thats what i call it. No focus.

Before I got married I had four theories about bringing up children; now I have four children and no theories.

lol, thats a good one, harp.

An example would be, lets say your kid is studying for a test. In the middle of reading/writing question, whatever, he/she switches to texting, and then goes to look at the weather for tommorrow. By the time he/she goes back to the book, their short term memory has all but half forgotten what subject they were on. They have to re read to catch up, but wait, then they go back to texting, posting on a blog, and answering a question on yahoo answers. Back to studying. Oh wait where was I.

This seems to causes the neurons in your brain to work overtime. They start firing at a rapid rate. This firing makes you produce a limited amount of adrenaline. This feeling is what is addictive.

Just watch you kids next time they multi-task like that. Tell them to hold out their hands. See how they shake.

President elect’s have all received Time Magazine’s person of the year…nothing new here so give it up. are you that so hard up for topics to attack obama on?

Thats a very interesting explanation. I’ll have to keep that in mind if I get married and have kids.

touchet, I will see if my daughters hands shake. She doesn’t even have to look at what she texting…

Ah yes, humbling isn’t it?

I remember once before my daughter became a mother, she was complaining, railing away about what miserable decisions I had made (leaving the very lovely East Bay (not) for Big Sur where she and her brother grew up) that affected their lives…on and on she went until finally I said “OK, I made mistakes but that probably wasn’t one of them…but anytime you have a problem, blame me. I didn’t know what the heck I was doing most of the time. It was probably my fault.” It was like a light went off…and she said “Well…you must have done something right.” “We’re both happy.” LOL.

But of course, now I’m wrong, wrong, wrong again for voting Republican for the first time. I just respond with a smile and say “Plenty of time for I told you so later.” God love ‘um.

BTW after she became a mother, it was “Gosh, Mom, I don’t know how you did it alone.” Some consolation once in awhile.

Those brats do NOT type faster than I do.

Females back in the stone ages had to take typing. Most guys could not type — it was so unmanly for them to know how to type. They’d get their girlfriends or mothers to type papers for them. And then I took advanced college typing. THAT was the best computer class I’ve ever taken. I can zoom zoom out the words — and with spell check — when it’s working — my spelling improves.

Of course they thought that they were teaching us female to write letters dictated by males — ha. It was the secretaries who were supposed to make the males look good. And then the computers came along and suddenly the guys had to start typing — THEN typing became a manly art. (Such is the world of the sex role stereotyping.)

But I hear what you’re saying — and the 0bots make it so obvious that these kids are not well socialized and they are not well read — I’m not even sure that their reading comprehension skills are well developed.

Nearly every single 0bot who is “first” in responding — rarely READS the article.

Excellent choice for Poisons of the year –

I second that nomination.

NewHamster, hope you don’t mind but I’m copying this for the future…will be one of those I told you so’s.

Thanks again, nite.

All I can say is that I’m glad all I have is three dogs. But they wouldn’t vote for the Fraud as I raised them better than that. The kids who did this to themselves sadly did this to US too. I don’t see a way to excuse it. But I will be laughing my azz off when they are up at 4 am doing pushups in “Ballet Rahm’s” boot camp for the Civilian Military. These bratty, snotty kids think somehow they are going to get away with not working and the Good Lord God Jesus Messiah Fraudbama is going to hand them everything. Good luck with that. ROFLMAO.

not just texting. Didn’t you read what i wrote?

Rose, maybe one of the problems is the “dumbing down” in the school system. History books in public schools are inadequate and don’t tell the complete story of politics and government. Kids finish high school without any real knowledge of how our government works. Then when parents like you try to educate their children on voting, they don’t pay attention. We’ve been lucky to this point. We’ve had some incompetent presidents, but the balance of power envisioned by the founders has worked. It isn’t working anymore and we are in serious trouble, IMO.

Well, mass communication has evidently replaced one on one communication because from what I hear our current college population doesn’t even date anymore – they just hook up. Those of us that experienced the 1960′s and 70′s know that although our values started to change, we still had them.

Add to that the attention span of a gnat and no wonder they type so fast; they have to finish before they’re distracted by some shiny object.

Thank you for the article, New Hampster. It’s all too true, these kids have no clue. They live (?) for the moment, have no clue of the past, no clue about democracy and how it’s supposed to work, and think everything is a video game where all they have to do is hit reset if things don’t work out the way they want (which we adults all know the world doesn’t work that way). Everything is American Idol to them where you don’t have to look further than the glitz.

All you have to do is read the obot postings where they get nasty because they can’t relate to what’s happening (or can’t because they are all so caught up being Obama cult members) and figure if they get nasty they can beat the person(s) into submission – lack of social skills there and clearly abuser personalities; or they don’t understand a historical reference, or they haven’t done their research – too much work to look into that for them; or claim conspiracy theory because things don’t fit into their little world and they’d rather remain blind.

My first experience with an obot was a comment which said “die so we can fix this country.” It shocked the hell out of me! And that was only the beginning of the abuse cycle for this election, which we’ve all seen and been a part of. This is the new generation and I’m ashamed of them! They’ve helped continue to undo democracy and everything we’ve all fought for: civil rights, women’s right, gay rights, protecting the constitution and bill of rights, etc. If this is how they want to “fix this country”, then they’ve got a fight on their hands because I’m not going to sit back and watch them destroy it. I still vote and no party owns my vote or my allegiance any more.

NewHampster, I agree with this line:

Congratulations Kids. It’s your future and now you own it.

And I want to add: …and don’t expect us to take the blame for your idiocy! “We told you so” is already happening – take the time to read the news articles, the chickens are already coming home to roost!

paved paradise put up a parking lot ….

They are too self consumed with their ipods, bluetooth cell phones and oblivion. They will hardly notice. They strike me as the most isolated of all generations. I am saddened by them, really. Really sad.

Sometimes it’s good to let off steam, rant away.

Just remember that much of what you’ve written has been used as a slam at bloggers in general – overgrown kids in their parents basement playing keyboard warrior.

It’s pretty harsh to slam a whole generation. And I have to say that I’d spread the blame to us boomers as well. The vast majority of my Democratic friends are Obots – and nearly all of them have gray hair.

Let us not underestimate the power of MSM propaganda to convince otherwise thinking adults of any age that the sky is green.

I understand the kids being bamboozled, but the so called liberal elite, has me distressed. The college profs, the sierra club groupies, the envirnmental people. How were they so easily dimwiited? They would never listen to one fact. They didn’t want to hear the truth or be disturbed by anything that didn’t stroke The One. That scares me even more. Many of the ones who marched and voted for McGovern, have lost their minds, if you ask me.

They are all waking up with the slap up side the head of Rick Warren … the comments at HP are shocking.

HP?

What? You wrote more than a sentence so we refuse to read it.

Thanks touchet for taking this a little deeper which my ADD Hampster mind is not capable of.

Currently this 58 yr. old geek is editing 122 video tutorials on my desktop with Camtasia while blogging here on NoQ and Partizane. I’m also doing the morning eMail responses for customer support issues and just beginning the css customization for a new customer learning site.

Lucky it’s not a busy day.

but Liz. My main point was meant to be that I think the MSM was overly influenced by the blogs before they fell into line behind BHO. I bet those gray haired Obot friends, just like mine, don’t read the blogs. Most have never even seen dKos. Their Obotiness is I feel due almost entirely to white guilt. At more than one Senate campaign meet this fall, I heard Obots say things like “can you believe we finally nominated a black man”. It was all about the color of his skin, not the content of his character.

Great article.
thanks

As far as Obama being elected, a lot of the blame, IMO, goes to the huge percentage of Americans who don’t even bother to vote. And I, along with my fellow Boomers, are the ones who got on the change-train of the sixties and then ran it right off the tracks and let it plow down Main Street. WE are the ones who planted the seeds of the recent changes and then settled into our humdrum lives and let the weeds of radicalism grow out of control.

huffPo

If the electricity goes off…Can these kids still think..chuckle….or speak ?
Good article New Hampster…

Try giving change with your dollar bills to a kid cashier and watch their mind crash. The computer screen has decided the transaction and varying from what they are seeing on the screen is a total disconnect.

rflmao…funny that Bee…and astute…

Kass’ references to Gov. Blagojevich as “Governor Dead Meat”, and his name for Mayor Daley, “Mayor Shortshanks”, make his articles even more entertaining. I used to think that John Kass was a piss poor replacement for deceased Chicago icon, Mike Royko, but he really afflicts the comfortable, and I’m appreciating his articles a lot more now.

I have two 20 something children who voted for McCain, so know that there is hope out there.

LOL! I have seen this!

The only thing wrong with what you said is the word ‘kid.’ This issue affects not only them and us but the entire business world is affected by lack of focus and instant gratification.

And yes, NewHampster is suffering big time with this. He is still in his pajamas.

ROFLMBBO

Those brats do NOT type faster than I do.

You are then exceptional in this respect, NW Rain. My granddaughter’s keyboard speed and accuracy (high school girl) is staggering, and she has never had a typing lesson. She can “text” with her thumbs about as fast as I can type, and I am very fast and was a production typist. These children of the computer age are indeed developing skills that are very machine-like. I’m bewildered.

Oh yes–but this girl (my 18 year old granddaughter, who lives with us), as robotic as her motor-skills are, did on her own decide to vote McCain-Palin; so for whatever reason, unlike most of her peers, she did not meld into the Oborg. Maybe it was the lack of MSNBC in our household.

Well, apparently even Time doesn’t follow their low standards, because not only did they choose O-shit!, but last year they chose Vladmir Putin and I don’t think he made “the most effect”.

and why is Time in trouble? ‘Nuf said.

Excellent.

Now, don’t go slamming all kids. I have 2 sons, ages 14 and 17. The younger one, well, early on he was for BO and I was for Hillary, of course, my oldest was for Hillary also. The little guy changed his mind about BO after I showed him 3 times in one week where the fraud lied and kept changing his answer to the same question. Anyway, we were all strong for Hillary and then Mccain. My kids have always been informed about politics because I am. They could tell you anyone’s stance (if you consider BO having a real stance) on any issue. They know all about Rezko, etc. My youngest tried convincing teachers and other students that the guy was dirty in the Rezko scandal and not eligible to be POTUS. He printed out the indictments in the Rezko trial and told people how Obama was “the candidate” and also how he passed IL senate 1332 to change the number of board members. My kids are shocked and appalled that BHO won! They will never in their life listen to the MSM’s take on a candidate. They will research and decide on their own. They will keep up on issues and know who has been doing what. My kids are informed and I tell them they need to stay that way all their lives so we can stop crap like this from happening anymore. No more BHOs, if we can help it! I just wish to hell my kids had been old enough to vote!

Hello all. Reading all the articles and comments on “No Quarter” makes me feel not so alone in this crazy world. I have finally found people who are as old, angry and bitter as I am.

We’ve been in an ice storm the last week and on the TeeVee they interviewed a kid at a shelter. He said the tough part was that he’s never gone 2 days without his cellphone or Internet access. He was having withdrawal.

Over at my blog a commenter basically accused me of stereotyping. Here is my response because I’m too lazy to think of it again.
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You are in many ways correct except that you missed the fact and one of the site’s rules is that I love and use snark extensively. This is most likely to cover for my lack of formal education and my habit of hiding the truth in among a pile of rubbish. Really.

Point. Was I against the Vietnam war and is that why I supported McGovern? I marched with millions of others to protest the war but dang if I wasn’t happy as a lamb when my draft lottery number came up very high. Looking back, I know that from the day of the lottery in ’69 or ’70 my concern for the war dropped ever so slightly. My concern and I think the concern of so many others, was that middle class guys like me were dying in the rice paddies and I didn’t want to die over there.

I supported McGovern because I come from a Democratic family that taught us to make choices and then support them. My choice in ’68 was left on the sidewalks of Chicago.
Example of real feet on the street support, not bloggers or marchers but people who volunteer for a campaign and knock on doors and make phone calls. I’ve volunteered in almost every Presidential campaign. There are always the teen children of supporters which is what I was in ’72. Try to imagine the real opposition to the Irag war if we still had a draft. Just try and imagine the blogging, 20 something, Obama loving, white kid students quaking in their pants at the possibility of getting a letter from the draft board. Everything was different back then because of the draft. The two times cannot be fairly compared.

Those kids are there because Mom or Dad is there. My son voted for Obama because his mom did. In either case I will debate you all day that they have no real knowledge of the issues. And I wiould find the polls and videos to back up the argument that most voters, on all sides, have no knowledge of the issues. They vote GOP because they or their family always have. They voted for Hillary because we loved Bill or maybe thought a woman was good but I think that especially the young supporters of Hillary were no different than the Obama supporters of that age. They vote or give allegiance for peer pressure reasons, because of family and in some instances for real legit reasons. My daughter read all of Hill’s writings, met her, worked in NYC and cried with me when the nomination was stolen. Then she joined her boyfriend in supporting Obama and learned to ignore all the facts she had previously understood. That my friend is the real world not the fairy tale world of Bambi.

Obama is the PEBO because Axelrod ran the most incredible branding campaign in marketing history. You read at Fast Company and other places for articles about the Branding of Obama or even search dKos for a diary by NewHampster titled The Brand Called Obama. I refuse to link to that site.

You, the media and others ignore the value of the concerts. The free lead-ins to an Obama speech. The top German rock bands that preceded him before the Berlin event or the bands that pulled in the kids in Portland or any number of places. Axelrod and all good political operatives know that once you get them there, once people make a physical commitment, once they are part of a larger group, they are very tough to change. They may not know why they are there except for the music but the even has them cheering for Obama and offering their support by doing so. It is psychology plain and simple.

I’m full of crap you say. I stood for 3 days on a corner in Scranton, PA holding a sign for Hillary. Yes she won the state and the city and it was never in real doubt. Where I stood was at the entrance to U. of Scranton. A major intercection with walk lights and kids stopping to chat with friends while waiting to cross. Hundreds of college students walked by me every day, stopped to chat.

So, the day or two days before the primary, Obama came to Scranton and spoke that night at a rally in some field house. I heard one or two groups of kids speak about going to see Obama that night. More often and very often I heard kids ask their friends, “are you going to the free concert tonight?”.

Ah! You mistake Bitter for Pissed. There is a difference. We are pissed. We are also sad.

My stars. Imagine what he might inadvertently learn about something so old fashioned and quaint as eating a meal with his family!

And we are not fooled one little bit by the laser light show. After all. We were here at the inception!

NewHampster

Thank you! Thank you! Brilliant post!

I am saving this No Quarter Edition for posterity.
Well said….and how prophetic. Let’s hope the misogynist media frat-boys & gals will see the Light and get cured fast of their OBA-MYOPIA!!!

NorthWest Rain

Thank you for an insightful post here….I remember getting 120 words per min. Pitman Award/certificate in highschool and feeling vindicated for all those damn typing courses I signed up for! They helped me get a job in a law office as law clerk and a few years later I decided to go to Law School. The senior partner, Mr. Robertson, said kindly to me, and I shall never forget it: “Girls only go to law school through the back door, Mary! But go ahead. You’ll do fine.” The other, more savvy partner, who became a Chief Justice a decade later, wrote me a reference letter praising my research and “great typing skills”~! This was bacdk in the 70s, but I found I received great encouragement from the older partners whereas the younger ‘articling students-at-law’ were condescending and, yup, sexist. And guess what the sign above my typewriter said:

” YEAR OF THE WOMAN–WHY NOT?
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As Hillary’s campaign taught us, there are many NOTs for us still to overcome. But really, I don’t feel we’ve come such a long way, baby, after all these years. I feel there was more respect for us back then. Now we are, regardless of our professional standing, all prey to the “young poisons” and their misogynist proclivities. How the hell did they acquire them? Are we responsible? No! It’s the misogynist media.

So, let’s get more girls and women in 3 areas:

a) Media
b) Politics
c) Advertising (yes, images count!)

sorry for this digression, but I’ve enjoyed th

Crazy SAm

Agreed. It’s kind of cozy and warm here at NO QUARTER! I love the people, love the posts….
It’s my refuge and asylum from the insanity and inanity of this and every other “marketing election”

AMEN.20 years if not more….

Nicely done, Rodent. A wing nut call for civility is always acccompanied by a slew of childish name slinging, and people like you are immune to irony.

Like I said:

The laughing stock of the internet.

First I want to say that I was 22 once. I think I was 19 too but the image is a little hazy. I know what it’s like to join a youth movement for no other reason than everyone else is doing it. And that is actually ok because movements teach us about joining and teamwork, basics of a strong society. I worked my 18 year old tail off for George McGovern in 1972 and probably could not name one single thing he stood for other than ending the war. I marched and protested during the student strike of 1970 and a little known fact is NewHampster was the one who opened the door and walked into the ROTC building, starting the sit down and eventual legal confrontation. I have a hard time remembering the school or why we were protesting becuase once again the memories are hazy. A smokey sort of haze.

I wouldn’t change a thing.

Rodent admits: My concern and I think the concern of so many others, was that middle class guys like me were dying in the rice paddies and I didn’t want to die over there.

Isn’t that interesting. By way of reminder, the concern of those actually protesting the war at the time was the pointless destruction rained down upon southeast asia and its unlucky denizens.

I don’t believe your tale, rodent, and I pity those here who do. It seems far more likely, based on your post and comments here, that you watched on TV, and like Dubya, supported the war but didn’t want to actually fight it.

Your use of the third person in your post is the most basic tell, i.e., you do not say “I did this” but instead say “NewHampster did this”.

Odd that Dubya used the same phraseology you did in answer to a reporter’s question back in the day, when asked why he didn’t serve in ‘nam, despite his support for the war. He said he didn’t want to die face down in a rice paddy, and therefore joined the TANG to learn how to fly an airplane.

Brave man. And so are you.

rodent writes: You, the media and others ignore the value of the concerts. The free lead-ins to an Obama speech. The top German rock bands that preceded him before the Berlin event…

Paid off, though, didn’t it. I believe the German citizenry cast zero votes for McCain as a result.