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Noam Chomsky, You, and Me

Whatever our radically different views in several areas, including views of some events in recent U.S history, I do not know anyone in my immediate circle who does not admire these qualities about Noam Chomsky, a world-renowned expert and professor emeritus of linguistics at MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology):

1) he has been investigating and explaining for a long, long time — what, ten-plus years? — that the media are purveyors of disinformation, beholden to their corporate interests; and

2) he sees completely through Barack Obama. He calls him a “brand.” That is a simple, apt description, isn’t it.

He also knows that Barack Obama is a creation of the media.

The phrase he often uses is “manufactured consent.” Have you ever seen elsewhere, besides the drive to unify the country through intensive public relations efforts leading up to both Gulf Wars, another more “manufactured” image of “unity” than that which was created during the candidacy of Barack Obama?

We take, from all great minds, what we can both find useful and also apply to our own lives.

It may, at first blush, seem nonsensical to Noam Chomsky that that some of us would avoid some of the totality of his views and collections of evidence. But let me explain why that is to any Chomsky-ites and, if we somehow are privileged to have him read these words here, directly to the man himself.

Belief versus Evidence. I choose to use, with explicit purpose, the terms “his views” and his “collections of evidence” because, if he is anything, Noam Chomsky is anti-belief. And that it because “belief” requires a “suspension of disbelief,” a faith, a dream, a mirage in the desert.

“Theories” Are Still Rationally Valuable in a World-View That Eschews Belief and Only Accepts Evidence. The above section, “Belief versus Evidence,” does not mean that Mr. Chomsky, you and I cannot develop “theories.”

That is because we develop our “theories” based on 1) evidence, 2) evidence, and 3) evidence. Note the video above. Mr. Chomsky refers to the Web site of Barack Obama. He has done the investigative work, and far more than he describes in this rather short snippet in checking out Mr. Obama.

Now, it is safe to say that Mr. Chomsky similarly disdains Bill and HIllary Clinton, John McCain, Sarah Palin, and the whole lot of the politicians in D.C.

But I think that even he recognizes that, although he disagrees with their views, their actions, and their past choices, he knows that — in their worldview — they do have the requisite experience whereas Barack Obama is nothing more than a “brand.”

  • Strawberrybitch

    Uh-oh. So how long will it be before all those “progressives”, whatever the hell that means, begin to call for Noam’s head or start saying Noam has lost his mind due to age related dementia? Thanks for this NQ.

    • truthtelling007

      Ah, Noam,…in many ways an inspiration to me, and his colleague, Ed Hermann is a friend of mine too. These guys are not into cliques. They aren’t into political posturing, or having a “movement” but into telling it like it is.

      But to the “progressives” of America…they are often misunderstood and taken only for the areas that criticize Bush and Cheney. When he directs that same criticism on institutions of the left, woaah…suddenly he’s naive.

      I’m very glad to see that yet again Noam and I arrived on the same side of the Obama coin. I’m not into belief. I do have beliefs rest assured, but…I don’t linger in them, I question them, and I shore them up with reality.

      Thanks NQ for this quick and insightful take on Noam, and to Strawberry for the accurate call of the outcome of questioning…The O

      • mary

        great comment!

        Noam’s DVD “Manufacturing Consent” is a favorite of mine. Great Xmas present. Not for OBUMMERS…
        Send one to Barack’s lover Jon Favreau….may make Noam’s comment part of his xeroxed speeches for the ObaMyopics

  • http://firefox AnnieCollier

    Clear, uncluttered thinking and interpretation. What a concept. Thanks Mr. Chomsky.

    How convoluted the Sullivans, Olbermanns and tingly leg persons are. Makes it doubly hard to figure out who the hell he is or what he’s going to be about. All I know is my gut has said from the start he’s a disaster.

    Sometimes he gets that snarky little half smile when he’s supposed to be speaking of something actually serious…as if he’s laughing at everyone. Guess he is since he’s in on the joke that he’s nothing but branding. Acting “as if” now won’t save you Barry.

  • http://www.rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/ Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy

    Thanks for this, NQ. Noam Chomsky is a voice crying out in the wilderness…

    DO you remember that the former Arizona Cardinal football player-turned-Green Beret,Pat Tillman, killed in action in Afghanistan, was a big Noam Chomsky fan? Chomsky (according to Wikipedia, I know, I know) confirmed that Tillman’s family had arranged a meeting between the two when Tillman returned from Afghanistan…Anyway, I think that says a WHOLE lot abt him…

    And abt Noam Chomsky. What a mind.

    • mary

      Yes Rabble Rouser!

      Noam Chomsky is an icon truly to be worshipped. Not the false idolatry of the Obama “brand”. I only wish Noam Chomsky would have a brief ‘conversation’ to put Obummer under the table where he could be fed some real truths. The “Manufactured Consent” dvd is a great way to provide some badly needed intellectual-political insights…it’ll never become ‘retro’. If only Obummer spent time reading Noam instead of writing fiction to prepare Himself for The Top Job.

      Seen the TIME Photos of OBAMA stoned back in 1980, taken by a fellow student at Colombia, photographer and now psychologist who put the photos of stoned Obama in her vault till after his election….amazing photos…Obama is 100% gay and closeted, like a couple of my friends, and is probably having a wonderful time with Jon Favreau behind the scenes…A fradObummer….no guts…in denial till the end…shame on BHO to invite neanderthal misogynist homophobe rickie Warren….SHAME!

      ***What happend to Larry Sinclair’s lawsuit since he retained this very illustrious and expensive litigation lawyer?????

      • FembotsForObama

        yeah, but what’s with the ring on Barry’s wedding finger?

        I second you on Barry being in the closet. Believed that since his 2006 national exposure. That’s gonna be the biggest secret of his administration, forget the birth certificate.

  • NoTrollZone

    Is there a written version of Chomsky’s video?
    This dial up really is way too slow. And I’d love to be able to get a written transcript of Chomsky’s expanded comments, if possible.

    He’s a brilliant guy.

    • yttik

      I think this is a transcript of the interview.The clip above begins at this part:

      “So, let’s go back to the evidence that we have, rhetoric and actions. Rhetoric, we know. Now, what are the actions? Well, so far, the major actions are a selection of—in fact, the only actions are a selection of personnel to implement Brand Obama.”

      http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/24/noam_chomsky_what_next_the_elections

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhXA3fXpCFk Woman Voter

        Thanks :-)

        • mary

          Noam is right! Women’s struggles never came as “gifts from above” Great commentary on Obama’s grassroots who are not “participants” but “meddlesome spectators”….

    • James
    • Diana L. C.

      What a coincidence for me. I spent some time last night reading most of Chomsky’s words from this video.

      I spent long hours reading and trying to fully understand Chomsky’s famous works on linguistics: his break through Syntactic Structures of 1957, the Aspects, Deep Structure, Surface Structure, and Semantic Interpretation, to name a few. I was always way more on his side than on Lakoff’s during the famous “Linguistic Wars.”

      So, still very angry at the DNC’s use of George Lakoff recent, very bad forays into politics with The Political Mind–a very snake oil kind of book–I went to GoogleNews and did this search: Chomsky on Obama. (I had already read Steven Pinker’s analysis of Lakoff’s political writings in his recent The Stuff of Thought, but knew I should have looked into what Chomsky said about it.) On GoogleNews you will find an article published November 28 with the text of this video and more.

      Chomsky is the one mind of this country that I admire the most. I still can’t imagine having his genius. I was one of those weird kids who loved to conjugate irregular verbs through all the English tenses in active and passive voice. I loved diagramming sentences in junior high: simple, compound, complex, and compound-complex. So when as an undergrad I found the generative transformational linguistics that Chomsky basically began in 1957, I was mesmerized.

      I always wished I could become a linguist, but motherhood and life got in my way.

      In any case, I remember seeing Chomsky in person in Boulder, CO, in the late seventies. He was giving a political speech, since it was Boulder, but I went to see the linguistic genius.

      So, of course I feel totally happy ay about that Chomsky had all this to say about Obama. I’m happy that I saw the same things; I am very sad for our country.

  • pm317

    Here is a longer article on Chomsky on Election and beyond

    View online here: http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/19749

  • http://liberalrapture.com/ John (from Liberal Rapture)

    Wow. Great Post. Thank you! Afghanistan has been the deepest sink hole for the Obama Pods. It is so good to see someone tell it like it is. The Code Pink wing of the Left is in for a severe jolt.

  • VRWC – Chomsky Dept.

    Chomsky? When it comes to linguistics, I’ll agree or disagree with him on the basis of linguistics. But his politics? This is a man who was a long-time apologist for Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, first denying the mass murders, then – years and years later – trying to explain them away as outcomes of an effort to save Cambodians from mass starvation. Look it up, I’ve no links handy, due to excessive Christmas-related revelries. Noam Chomsky, Pol Pot. Pol Pot, Noam Chomsky. Never think of Chomsky except that the Killing Grounds should flood your imagination. Who cares if Hitler’s or Stalin’s apologists and Renfields are right about the evil of tornadoes? It’s still Dracula’s apostles saying it.

    • Strawberrybitch

      Um, yeah, I wish you’d supply a link, because from all that I’ve ever read of Noam, he’s a humanist.

    • Lynn E

      I wrote a paper about it in graduate school. Chomsky was a so immersed in trying to prove that leftists were good and “Americans” were bad that he refused all evidence up to the present on the Pol Pot regime. He spent time arguing that the US press was emphasizing the evilness of a leftist regime while condoning rightist regimes in South America. It was not true and proven by the evidence that Chomsky tried to present, how many articles appeared in the major newspapers about the regimes of various countries. While Chomsky’s continued denial of the left’s (as in Pol Pot) fault in the Cambodian genocide (to him it’s still the US’s fault), I can’t deny all that Chomsky says. His research in Linguistics seems to be very valid and he is right about Manufactured Consent. The problem is that Chomsky is gifted enough to spread his own skewed messages across the media as well. Chomsky is right about Obama, but wrong on Cambodia. The US was wrong to drag the country into the war but Pol Pot was a monster who was willing and waiting to take advantage. He was also very charming like many psychopaths and many people were fooled by him.

      • truthtelling007

        If he “refused all evidence” then why did he clearly state:

        “”I mean the great act of genocide in the modern period is Pol Pot, 1975 through 1978 – that atrocity – I think it would be hard to find any example of a comparable outrage and outpouring of fury and so on and so forth.” — Noam Chomsky, in the documentary “Manufacturing Consent,” 1993.(1)”

        ?

  • socalannie

    God this was great! Obot heads must be exploding around the country. The obots I know love Noam Chomsky! Thanks Susan!

  • candymarl

    I did watch a video where Mr. Chomsky said swing state folks should vote for Obama over McCain. He said over time average folks tend to do better under Democratic administrations.

    I think in the past that might have been true to a certain extent. But when a candidate is an obvious “brand” and some of his own supporters crow about his being marketed better we have entered a new era.

    This is the era of the American Idol President. It doesn’t matter who has the most talent or experience or the ability to make the lives of the average American better. This is about giving America the most attractive and likeable candidate.

    Meanwhile Congress votes themselves another raise and bails out banks and corporate America.

    Well, I guess that minimum wage increase will kick in sooner or later. Of course when you factor in inflation and cost of living you’re right back where you started.

    But who cares? Obama is kewl!

    • pm317

      That is what makes all of us old time/style Democrats angry. We were Dems for a reason and this election they took away the reason. They became Republicans, or worse.

    • http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/puma_for_life/ Puma for LIfe

      I saw that video also. He suggested people should vote for Obama. I can’t tell if he has actually changed his mind, or if he is just interested critiquing Obama.

  • NoTrollZone

    Thanks for the Chomsky links!

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Noam_Chomsky curmudgeonly troll

    Chomsky is a brilliant and creative intellectual, and also a rather disingenuous intellectual bully.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Noam_Chomsky

    It’s a safe bet Chomsky doesn’t think Palin, Clinton or McCain, or for that matter anyone but Chomsky, has the requisite background for any political debate or decisionmaking.

    • truthtelling007

      “and also a rather disingenuous intellectual bully. ”

      And what do you base this on?

    • Diana L. C.

      Yes, he reminds me of Greg House on the television series. Mostly, though, he is right. We mortals often have a hard time understanding all the nuances of his statements.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls dgr

    The Brand is merely a puppet. The other day, The Brand stated his is the first presidency to establish his administration in uh uh such a “record” amount of time… well, what if the Puppet Masters actually had the administration pre-selected, down to getting most of the people involved to agree “to serve” ahead of this election. that is pure conjecture on my part, but really NQ, any idea who the Puppet Masters are???

    • Esther Morgenstern

      I have a feeling the puppet master is Axelrod, who created the ” Brand”, who pulled the strings ahead of time, in plenty of time for his ” cult of personality” creation;, Obama will be a sweetly smiling, making nicy-nice with everyone all around the world president, he has never made a decision in his life ( always voting ” present” )and will continue in that mode, because thats all he knows and thats all he really wants to do. –The selection of capable people to run the country is excellent, and truly worthy of a genial mind…. Thats why Axelrod comes to mind…

  • lute

    This is one time that I think you guys should get over to
    Orange Urinal and fight against the Caroline Kennedy coronation:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/20/17243/337/753/675546

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls dgr

      ugh, I’d rather go spend time in a porta-pottie on a hot summer day in Florida than go spend time in the spewing sewerage at kos…

    • interested party

      I wouldn’t spend too much time there. Any comments will be lost in the endless lines of debate, threads and sub-threads characteristic of Kos.
      “Progressives” will self-destruct by talking everything to death.

    • WildChild

      I don’t live in NY

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    It’s unbelievable that this happened to our country. But good to know the Obots are exploding. I know some of the folks in Hollywood started to raise eyebrows when Ballet Rahm was chosen. It must be getting worse now, although I refuse to even discuss it with them anymore. I hate stupidity. I also think the liberals who voted for Fraudbama deserve EVERY minute of their little America hating hearts breaking. Every minute of it. I have never heard so much America hatred in my life and maybe some day instead of spewing filth at what a piece of shit America is, liberals will one day appreciate what makes America special, unique and how grateful we should be for our freedoms. No offense but there’s so much of it. So much hate for America. Every single thing anyone does is wrong, although how many other countries in the world do people have the liberty to sit around and blog all day about how much they hate America? I mean, it must be nice to have a roof over your head, food to eat, security, and still have such hatred and contempt for every single thing America is and those who fight to keep us safe. America can’t win with liberals. Now we’re going to lose big time because of Fraudbama. Just once it would be nice for people to appreciate this country. That’s what I noticed this election about Republicans. There was no doubt about it. Going to McCain/Palin rallies patriotism was RAMPANT. People screaming USA, USA, USA. While at the Fraudbama rallies it was all about the hate for America. All about changing everything we are and how America has NO BUSINESS being America anymore. WTF? Sometimes whiny, spoiled people only appreciate what they have when it’s gone. It’s going, going and soon to be gone. When America is dead, over and to be no more, maybe a few liberals will say oops. We screwed up. In the meantime, those of us with the good sense not to support the Fraud and all of this insanity, get to sit back and watch Obot brain matter splatter across the country. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of losers.

    On another note…I thought I was safe not watching the news or reading the paper. I get all my info from the sites on the net I trust not to make me puke. However, I can’t even watch Home Shopping Channels LOL. Tonight on one of them…and you have to keep in mind that this particular one is in a small town in Tennessee, one of the show hosts was talking about a big cut in prices for their Christmas items. She then went on to say that we are “almost over the hump.” That the economy is so bad right now, but in January when we get our new President the economy is going to immediately change. ROFLMAO. Where do they get these people?

    • http://firefox AnnieCollier

      hahaha. I don’t watch the shopping channels…just more stuff we don’t need. I am noticing changes on HDTV just since the election…I’d say about 85% of the couples/families having remodels or selling their houses are mixed race couples…all kinds. I don’t have a problem with it…just that it has changed from all white or all black, asian, etc. Guess it’s the new PC.

    • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

      I would like to take offense to the word liberals. There are plenty of good liberals out there. The ones you’re talking about are “progressives”. Quotations intended.

      • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

        xax…I have tried that…I don’t know what you guys call the difference between “progressives” and “liberals.” Maybe someone can explain that better than the last person who tried. When I got my butt munched over it last time, I agreed to just say “the left.” The funny thing is…”progressives” are anything BUT “progressive” IMO. They are the people who set this country back to the Stone Age.

        • xax

          It’s often blurry. So no problem there. I guess for me, liberals believe in individual freedom while progressive believe in the state. I think the government has its role, but it should not be a nanny state.

          The lines between true liberalism and “progressivism” has been blurred deliberately to suit a “progressive” agenda. For me, I do care about the poor, but growing up in a poor city I also understand there are some who just live off the government teat and then feel entitled to more. So while progressives lobby for more money in the name of the poor and then throw it haphazardly in the street, liberals would help those who can get a job and for those who can’t you’ll give them money.

          I don’t know if it’s a good example, but that’s just my opinion.

          • FembotsForObama

            xax, interesting distinction

            I’m pretty much in agreement with you. Having worked in government for over a decade, you see the effect of bad policies based on good intentions, or those side effects that were unknown until the actual carrying out of a particular policy occurs. Also, I tend to see people as a split between those who don’t take responsibility for their actions and those who do (circumstances notwithstanding). I grew up fairly poor but at some point you have to get off the government trough. So I would guess I’m in the solidly Liberal camp.

            The term I like to describe the Bots is neo-Liberals or neo-progressives, because like Bush’s supporters when he had them it is devotion to a particular leader that separates them from us. What they refuse to do is see any bad in their leader. Even those of us who still supported Clinton during Monica knew he was guilty. These Bots seem to believe that Obama can do no wrong and is motivated by a higher spiritual source so he is immune from corruption and being a politician.

    • SportPolitics

      Haven’t you heard ? Patriotism is a very real danger. “Jingoistic love of ones nation means you would follow Hitler to the grave” only for the USA though, otherwise you are a minuteman freedom fighter. “Nations are BAD things in a global world, and anyone for the USA is crapping on most of the world’s people”… “remove the worlds borders!” they scream ( I guess their psychotic mind tells them that will bring world peace )
      That’s what they tell us nowadays – then the same preaching psychos scream about outsourcing and “America” losing jobs… (suddenly it’s 100% moral, honest, loving, defensive, beautiful, wonderful, the right thing to do, – to be a hardcore USA defender and supporter) – those same people SCREAMED decades ago the poor of the world needed to be brought up from the 3rd world to modernity (decades before Bush or “The Gap” study of PNAC) – and the neocons went to do business and make it happen – but now that’s exploitation, and worse, it’s now raping and taking… taking American jobs…- and those same people SCREAMED they HATE the rich corporate owners and ” rulers” – and those who were hated with such a vile, mean, searing hatred left the nation to be overseas closed down USA plants and put them overseas (I certainly don’t blame them *the most hated people ever*)- to get away from the protesting hate mongers- and those same people SCREAMED “you outsourcer!”–
      See, LYING PSYCHOS in the merriam webster for understanding. Alternately see: View from Mars

  • trixta

    Obama is a Fraud — don’t forget, the Repubs brought us GWB — and that is something they can’t be too proud of.

    • BernieO

      The MEDIA brought us GWB and now they have given us Obama. Without the media’s trashing of Clinton and then Gore and their fawning over “regular guy” George, he never would have been elected. Or selected.

      • derridog

        The media doesn’t work alone. They are paid to do what they are told and those who don’t go along with that no doubt find themselves under that handy bus. The question is: who is telling them?

        • SportPolitics

          Well they told themselves how much they love a mverick for how many years ? They told us GWB was a uniter – and he clearly pissed off every conservative past recall in the nation ten times each.
          So it looks to me like they tell themselves. The reason we got Palin under mcctraitor/mclame was that pick remains a public secret till anounced, so the media had no control and persuasion.
          Yes, the media, they all decide, group think, open focus grouping – copying copy 100 times a day – and bus wheels for dissenters. You know the NYT “sets the tone” and all the sheepleheads follow.

  • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

    I don’t hate Bush like everyone else here. I listen to who else voted for the War in Iraq – O’Biden, Ballet Rahm, etc. Even HRC did. It’s a joke to lay this country’s problems at the feet of Bush exclusively. I mean, COME ON. Even brain dead rats with lobotomies know that the Dems caused Fannie, Freddie and the Mortgage Crisis. Who can blame Bush for that? You mean people like Franklin Raines and his 90 Million Dollar theft on the backs of us regular Americans? I don’t see it your way. Liberals hate everything. Some poster here whined that Evangelicals are destroying his life. How? By practicing their faith? I saw Palin attacked by a total group of FREAKS – women who hate other women yet call themselves “feminist liberals” all because she wouldn’t abort her baby. I find that repugnant. The left has gone too far. Period. Now they get what they deserve. And, frankly, those of us who love this country are fed up. There are too many people now banding together to resist this liberal thing of having to burn America down, destroy it, and resurrect it as the Soviet Union or worse. We’re not going to have it and I am sickened by these people.

    • http://www.deathofthedemocraticparty.com xax

      I don’t thinks it’s about heting one politician over another. It’s more recognizing that they all have sucesses and failures- some of those more than others.

      For me it’s about facing the reality and not getting swept up in the emotion of it all or at least to not let your emotion cloud your sensibilities.

      I’m not a fan of W, but I can recognize some good decisions, the bad decisions and the just plain tough ones. It’ll be the same with Obama. But with Obama, you get the added pleasure of being able to silently say “I told you so” as the progs dreams die.

      I’m trying to be a better christian, but with each passing day I just get happier that my political cynicism about Obama was correct. It’s bad to wallow in the misery of others, I know.

      • bemused

        My catechism was that you should believe the best you can about others, due to your imperfect knowledge of their inner selves; but in any case G-d doesn’t require that we be complete fools about people whose actions are questionable, and allow others to take unfair advantage of us. I find that a useful guide.

    • FembotsForObama

      Doesn’t this follow my either people take responsibility for actions or they don’t meme?

      A lot of Democrats have consistently failed to take responsibility for their roles in these messes. Without the Democrats’ complicity, Bush couldn’t have done nearly as much as he did (that is, messing things up).

      When are they going to throw off the Daddy Obama and grow up?

  • Andy

    What Chomsky says at the beginning about Biden and the Bankruptcy laws is so true… Biden has been in bed w/all the credit card companies&banks for a very long time…. That’s one of the things I hated about Obama: he voted against stopping the predatory practices of Credit Cards. He voted Nay to the bill:
    “To limit the amount of interest that can be charged on any extension of credit to 30 percent.”.
    And so did Biden….

    Hillary Clinton voted Yea, of course.

    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00020

  • kgirl1028

    Obama is Fraud,

    Let’s be honest, bush lied to get us to go to war, bush approved the torture at GITMO which lead to the same treatment of mostly innocent detainees in Iraq. Bush ignored intel right up until nine-eleven that we would be attacked. Bush allowed certain members his cabinet to use our treasury as an ATM machine, i want my money back (i’m dead serious about that). I don’t care for people who lie to get the country into a costly wars that we can’t get out of. Bush uses peoples fear of terrorism, to get people to sign up for something he wanted to do anyway and had nothing to do with protecting this country from actual outside threats. These are the reasons i detest obama, i don’t like people who manipulate. GIve me the facts give it to me straight and let me make my own decisions. The main reason i am livid about people electing obama is, because bush is about to leave our country in a mess, and who do they get to clean it up, someone equally as arrogent, and with even less experience than bush, and even more prone to lie. The only reason i am so cool about bush right now is because A. there’s nothing i can’t do about it what’s done is done, and B. when we elected bush twice we said we trusted his judgment, and that’s what so few people understand about Obama, what ever he does or doesn’t do, it’s now on us. It’s about time people in this country started treating the presidency like what it really is, A job not a popularity contest! Maybe if we payed more attention to who we chose to hire we would have less complaints.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      kgirl…I respect what you are saying. I don’t agree and never will. I have said this 100 times here so I will say it again…I didn’t vote for Bush either time. I’m not part of that. I just know for a fact, 100%, that when Fraudbama is done with us the Bush years will be “the good old days.” Colin Powell and O’Biden both told us to be aware of some big “crisis” that will happen because of Fraudbama. I’m too busy not sleeping over that, and the fact that it will likely be bigger than 9/11 and ON OUR SOIL, IN OUR COUNTRY, to worry about a lame duck President I didn’t vote for and who I think has been wrongly blamed for everything wrong in this country. If and when the Dems accept their ENORMOUS part in the mess, I will listen to the Bush bashing. Not until then. Now, I have to worry about my family and loved ones being safe and the fact that the party in power has NO desire to defend this country, NO common sense with regard to foreign policy and defense, etc. Fraudbama is going to be too busy campaigning for 2012 to be bothered with our safety. O’Biden is a mess. And I would like to think HRC will be okay as SOS, but look who her boss is. The fish stinks from the head.

      I get called a “conservative” here a lot. That’s a joke. I didn’t vote for Bush, and I support gay marriage, abortion, etc. and I sure as hell am not an “Evangelical.” I would just prefer to live a little longer than six months from now, and I would like for the liberals to care about it and push for their unqualified candidate to do something about it.

      • Ferd Berfle

        There certainly is a lot of blame that can be spread around, from a do-nothing Congress under both democrats and republicans, to regulatory agencies that do not regulate but facilitate, to an administration that was incompetent to its core, to an electorate that can’t find the middle but swings from one extreme to another.

  • beaming

    Obama is a fraud. I concure.

    I’ve been hit with the ” 8 years of Bush ” by clients, friends and relatives when I have tried to tell them about Obama. And when I say there were 535 congress men and women also involved the response is, ” 8 years of Bush “.

    Congress and Obama are getting ready to make the U.S. a bankrupt nation. Keep an eye on your representatives who write the laws. By the time the laws, bills, spending packages get to Obama’s desk it will be too late. He’s ready to start signing now.

    Bush kept us safe. Is it just my imagination or did Obama seem ” different ” after his first security briefing. Oh what difference does it make. We haven’t been attacked since his security briefing so let’s talk about climate change and
    how much we can tax carbon footprints.

    • http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com OBAMA IS A FRAUD

      beaming…Yeah, it blows my mind. I see nuts arguing about people believing in Christmas, Christ, whatever. Liberals whining that Evangelicals have destroyed the country, but I ask “how” and don’t get any answers. People keep spewing about gay marriage and abortion and all this other social crap…and not one of these idiots is scared to death about our country’s security or economy. It’s like these treehugging nuts have to piss and shit on the memory of every dead person who lost their life on 9/11, because the wing nuts think we shouldn’t bother with our defense and we should embrace our enemies at a Kool Aid and Kumbaya Party. It’s nauseating. I’m too busy worrying about the Dems destroying what’s left of this country to lie about how politics work and ramble about how Bush and Bush alone made all the decisions. Maybe certain people should go back to school and learn how the three branches of government work in the US.

  • interested party

    Reading over the criticism of the man its evident that Chomsky has held a number of unpopular views, whether it be South East Asia, the Middle East or back home in the U.S. He’s been criticized by the right, left and every shade in between. He doesn’t appear to be too concerned about holding accepted opinion.
    His main bugaboo is U.S. hegemony, and he uses this point to argue what I would regard are some dubious political points, i.e. a clear disjunction between socialism and a totalitarian society or that realization of human rights will somehow result in “free” societies or because we are bad, they are good. Such arguments has led Chomsky to be characterized as an apologist for authoritarian, socialistic regimes and never ceases to be fodder for further assaults of his viewpoints.
    He by the way is, as mentioned above, not a denier of the Pol Pot atrocities, but that speculation in the Western media was incorrect to extent, that the “Killing Fields” were not irrespective of our intervention in Vietnam and as such, we share part of the blame.

    • Diana L. C.

      Yes, even a Christian writer like Scott Peck can place some blame on America. We can love our country without being the “Love it or leave it” variety of American.

      I am reminded of Scott Peck’s analysis of the Mylai Massacre. I have a copy of “Mylai: An Examination of Group Evil” that is at the end of his People of the Lie.

  • workingclass artist

    stumbled onto this over at Savagepolitcs…An interesting bit on Your Tax Dollars at Work…
    tp://savagepolitics.com/american-ginny-pigs

    • SportPolitics

      From your link: ” In April of 2008, President Bush signed into law S.1858 which allows the federal government to screen the DNA of all newborn babies in the U.S. …”
      The point is – THE PROGRESSIVE CONGRESS WROTE AND PASSED THE LAW – and wether or not Bush signed it, THE CONGRESS CAN MAKE IT LAW ANYWAY – A MERE OVERRIDE OF A POTUS VETO – OR THE POTUS IGNORES IT AND IT BECOMES LAW.
      The president did not do this- CONGRESS DID IT !
      _______________________________________________

      This nation will be DESTROYED unless people come to this realization, and the sooner the better.

  • workingclass artist

    http://savagepolitics.com/american-ginny-pigs
    I’ll try to post link again…*sigh*

    • Annie Oakley

      That’s scary. I remember when liberals used to care about this stuff, in the pre-Brand era.

      • FembotsForObama

        Annie, they also used to care about censorship, but that went out the window when Google was supporting Obama

  • I’m a Linda too

    A good piece, thank you.

  • CamdenRave

    Chomsky? Really, Chomsky? I have no problem with someone who is into him but the vast majority of people who contribute to this site bash Obama for hating America and hating Israel despite the fact that he has never said or done anything anti-American or anti-Israeli. But Chomsky actually does hate America and does hate Israel and has written and spoken about it extensively. To Chomsky America and Israel are terrorist states. This is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    • Ferd Berfle

      We all get it that your worship at the feet of That One. There are many sites for you to choose where they feel the same way you do. Kindly frequent one of them.

  • ownaa

    I am so glad I saw this post. I used to be of chomosky’s fans. I baught his books and listened to his lectures. Then doring the primaries I heard him saying some thing which kind of an Obama endorsment. Which of course to me is something like a blow to the head. So I just almost erased him totally from the list to go to, and almost threw away his books. Now I can go back to where I left of. I should have known he is too smart and clean for this BS.

  • gil

    Oh my goodness – you people praising Chomsky?

    He who has called the United States the greatest purveyor of Terrorism in the world?

    Who consistently denounces the militarist policies of Israel.

    Who has said that if the Nuremberg principles were applied today, every president since WWII would have been convicted of war crimes.

    That, Noam Chomsky?

    If anyone on “the left” who supported Obama or even the man himself had indicated even a smattering of support for these positions during the election, you guys would have had a freaking field day.

    Chutzpah, thy name is No Quarter.

  • FembotsForObama

    The reason I like Chomsky is he speaks “truth to power.” Some of it may be wrong, and I’ve heard him admit mistakes of which Pol Pot is one, but overall he questions authority.

    I didn’t like his in effect endorsement of Obama, thought he had bought the kool aid, but I’m glad to see that he does feel that Obama is a brand and at least is questioning him now about substantive things.

    WHO does that anymore?

    • FembotsForObama

      correction

      WHO does that anymore?

      except for the usual Fox, and Rush, Hannity, and now the alternative blogosphere?

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