Some days, nothing goes right.

Chauffeured by Jacques Cousteau

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YOU got into Ted Kennedy’s car, too?

What did I say about strangers with candy?

Oh, that was brutal.

So, one day, Madonna, Obama, moveon.org, Carpet Boy, and Mary Jo go for a ride in ted kennedy’s car…

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You summed it up right, YBNormal. But I have a complaint. Can everyone desist providing external links. It took me two hours to read all the information provided! Good stuff as it may be.

Thankyou for a well positioned post Leslie.

“F”oreign “O”wned e”X”crement will be glad to help facilitate this endeavor —- for what !?!

I wonder if any thought will ever be given as to; “What are Murdoch’s motivations”. What the hell is his problem anyway ? He isn’t even an American (Aussie) for Christ sakes. How is it that he chooses to provide the main platform for the de-stabilizing of America ? Whats it to him ?

It occurs to me that it may well be as plain and simple as the satisfaction of his own greed (no matter the costs to right and reason). As a business plan , he systematically manipulates hidden prejudices through antagonism with a goal of instigating descention and insurrection within our own ranks.

I can only hope his “loyal” followers (drones) will somehow , be made to “wake up” — they being played for CHUMPS.

Well [laughing] “brute force” is acceptable. “brutforce” might be Chris Matthews’ assessment of the formidability of the heavily perfumed Fred Thmpson.

In spite of this, right wing politicians spare no words characterizing Iran as the emerging evil in the world today. How do they do this, and what will it lead to?

The sense I get from the whole picture is that the right wing is using “the only thing to fear is fear itself” in reverse. By firmly implanting perpetual all-encompasing fear into our culture through exagurated threats of terrorism far beyond what it actually is, fear becomes a de-facto assumption for all discussion.

This is predictably followed by the self-righteous assumption that somehow the U.S. has the moral authority to obliterate the exagurated threat of terrorism through military force throughout the world.

Keeping in mind that fear and self-righteousness are the current driving force, while reason continues to be further ignored, my personal expectation for the next 15 months through Jan ’09 is that:
1. there will be no impeachment
2. funding for war without end will continue
3. public opinion of right wing policy will go down, while at the same time, public consent and congressional support of it will continue
4. there will at least be increased U.S. military action against Iran, if not a direct attack
5. I’m no better at predicting the future than anyone else – something could change un-expectedly

With all this, I’m not saying I or anyone should give up. What I am saying is that since the move towards an attack on Iran does not have reasoning as it’s primary basis, I DO NOT expect that it will be stopped by way of presenting logical arguments of reason to those who promote it. It will be more productive to find ways to disable fear and self-righteousness in those who consent to go along in spite of reasoning.

The Bushies figure, they don’t need the consent of the people anymore. They are just running out the clock while they raid the treasury.

Maybe we should just call it an Attack on Iran..for clarity….

All that you stated above does not involve the U.S. at all. They are internal fights within groups or factions. Most are even tribal and have been going on for many, many decades. Possibly, hundreds of years.

I’d bet that if you really dug, Rob, you’d find that there is probably a lot of CIA money in a lot of those ops that you did cite. And that IS what you’ll find when YOU’RE serious about terrorism to research it.

Actually, as a veteran of: URGENT FURY, EARNEST WILL, DESERT SHIELD, DESERT STORM, the run-up to ENDURING FREEDOM, ENDURING FREEDOM proper, the run-up to OIF, OIF 1,3 & 4, I am familiar with this maritime stressor.

And: “Rogers’ next assignment was Commanding officer of the United States Navy Tactical Training Group at Point Loma, a group responsible for training officers in handling combat situations. He retired from the United States Navy in August 1991.”

(per Wikipedia and USS VINCENNES history)

Not quite so big a screw-up as Marcus Arnheiter, but close…

And that last billet. Wow! That assignment makes about as much sense as hiring Hazelwood to teach Watchstanding at Kings Point.