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It Takes A Village to Defeat Terrorism: What President Obama Should Do to Correct the Bush Errors in Responding to Terrorism and Terrorist Threats

(bumped up by Susan from 2:00 p.m. Sunday)

I am fortunate to have something of an inside perspective on what the Bush Administration is doing ( and not doing) to combat the threat of terrorism and actually hold those who carried out terrorist acts responsible for their actions. I have served at the CIA and in the U.S. Department of State’s Office on Counter Terrorism. Although I left the Government in 1993, I have worked as a consultant supporting the Department of Defense in training the U.S. military forces that are specifically tasked with going after the terrorists since 1994. So what?

I have insight and understanding into the interagency monster that is the mechanism for tracking and going after terrorists. It is on this front that the Bush Administration, despite its success in preventing new attacks inside the United States since 9-11, has utterly failed. The failure is in two key areas:

1. They have pushed the false construct that terrorism must be fought as a military matter rather than a law enforcement/intelligence effort.
2. They did not to put in place an effective, functional coordination mechanism that compelled the various bureaucracies to work together, to share information, and to prioritize targets.

Let’s start with the military failure. Our military forces with the mission of finding and killing terrorists are being asked to do a mission that generally they are not capable of doing because of the nature of the terrorist targets. For starters, there are not that many terrorists. You think I’m wrong? Okay, let’s turn the question around. Outside of the U.S. military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and along Pakistan’s western border, where has the U.S. military conducted operations against terrorist targets and which terrorists did they get. It is a short list:

Somalia

Mali

The Philippines

Good luck trying to come up with an accurate list of the names of the “terrorists” that have been killed in these operations. No one knows for sure in many cases.

Please do not misunderstand or misinterpret what I am trying to communicate. I support the use of military force. But terrorists do not operate and live in ways that make them easy targets for the military to hit. The groups that engage in terrorist attacks rarely mass forces. Mass forces? That means they don’t come together in big groups. More often than not they are in clusters of two or three people interspersed among civilian populations. If you can find a camp of 50 jihadists training for mayhem then blow them to hell. Fine by me.

But here is the fact. We have rarely done that in the last seven years. It is not because the Bush Administration lacks the desire. Are you kidding me? If there were such targets they would hit them. We do not face a burgeoning army of jihadists training systematically in camps around the world. That is a fact.

We also face the problem of national sovereignty. The Washington Post has a fascinating article today that highlights this problem–Craig Whitlock’s Extradition of Terror Suspects Founders. Whitlock whines about the problems of relying on judicial systems and procedures:

Soon after al-Qaeda bombed two U.S. embassies in East Africa in 1998, a U.S. federal judge issued a warrant for Khalid al-Fawwaz, an accused conspirator in the attacks and a confidant of Osama bin Laden. . .

But a decade later, none of the defendants has moved any closer to a U.S. courtroom. One died of cancer in July. The other two, including Fawwaz, remain in prison here as their hearings drag on.

As the long-delayed British extraditions show, it is extraordinarily difficult to bring international terrorism suspects to justice by prosecuting them in U.S. civilian courts. The cases underscore the challenge facing President-elect Barack Obama as he tries to find a way to close the Navy prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and end the military tribunals set up by the Bush administration to handle terrorism cases from abroad.

Britain and other allies have long complained about Guantanamo, the tribunals and extralegal U.S. tactics used to fight al-Qaeda. At the same time, however, they have often blocked or resisted efforts by the U.S. government to prosecute accused terrorists in federal court.

All true. But what does this mean in terms of policy prescription? Invade the United Kingdom? At no point in the case raised by Whitlock was there a viable military option. I am not arguing that a judicial procedure is the cure all or the preferred solution, but at some point we have to come to grips with reality–our military forces can only operate in a miniscule number of countries without having to worry about getting permission from the local government to use airfields, deploy forces to a country, and conduct operations.

In the bullshit fantasy worlds of writers like Tom Clancy and Vince Flynn all things are possible and military units go where they want without a problem. Flynn put out some nonsense a few years back that had Delta force landing in Baghdad to grab a nuke stored below a hospital. Hell, we’ve had big Army in Baghdad for 5 years and haven’t found nukes. That’s the reality. I suppose we should not fault the likes of Clancy and Flynn–neither has military experience and are insufferable jock sniffers–but some Government officials, like Dick Cheney and Antonin Scalia, take these guys seriously. Despite telling good stories neither Clancy or Flynn know the first thing about the actual deployment of the units that would have to carry out the missions. In the real world, the U.S. military normally has to have permission to enter a country and an airfield or airfields for basing and staging operations.

The other problem is the military itself. The force footprint–i.e., the aircraft required to move the force and the logistical requirement to sustain the force in the field–normally is so large that it resembles a Barnum and Bailey circus parade rather than a covert, low visibility team of operators. If you could see the equipment list for what one of the highly classified units would carru with it on a mission you would readily understand that we are not talking about one guy schlepping everything in a hi-tech backpack.

I am not insulting or dismissing our military capabilities. The units that have counter terrorism missions are staffed with brave men and women who have made enormous sacrifices over the last seven years. But let’s get real and admit there are limits to what they can do. For example, why did our special operations forces stay home rather than deploy to Mumbai, India when Americans were being held hostage and being killed by terrorists a few weeks back? It is the answer to that question which explains why the military will rarely be given the opportunity to respond to terrorist incidents overseas–whether reactive or proactive.

This brings us to the coordination issue–or better stated, the lack of coordination. The interagency problems in sharing information and prioritizing targets that existed before 9-11 have not been solved and, in some cases, are worse than ever.

What is my evidence for this statement? Very simple. The U.S. Government does not have a single, coordinated list of terrorist targets. FBI has its own list as does the CIA. DOD has a couple of different lists. Consequently, each agency pursues its targets according to its own internally derived priorities.

It is important to recognize who is not at the table. The DEA is the only U.S. Government agency that has authority to operate internationally and domestically at the same time. They have some unique intelligence capabilities that the largely are ignored by the CIA, the FBI, and DOD. And those capabilities have not been harnessed to help with the counterterrorism mission. Here we are seven years since 9-11 and the government is still not being forced to work together to accomplish a single mission.

So what should Barack do?

He has made the right first move by selecting General Jim Jones to head the NSC. The people Bush chose failed him–I’m talking Condi Rice and Stephen Hadley at the top and Fran Townsend and Juan Zarate, who had the coordination task within the NSC.

On the afternoon of January 20th, after the oath is administered to Barack Obama, General Jones should convene a meeting of every major government department and agency that has a military, law enforcement, or intelligence mission. The tasking will be simple–go back to your home agency and prepare the list of the top ten terrorist targets/threats we need to eliminate and return to the White House on 26 January.

On January 26 General Jones will then convene an interagency task force that will consist of the following departments and agencies–Department of Defense, Central Intelligence Agency, Director of National Intelligence, Department of State, Department of Justice, FBI, Homeland Security, DEA, Department of Treasury, Secret Service, and Department of Energy. The people at that meeting must come up with a single list by January 31st of the priority terrorist threats and targets.

Who is the number one threat/target? I don’t care and I am not sure it matters whether Bin Laden is number one or number five. What needs to happen is the U.S. Government must assemble a prioritized list. Once that list is ready then we assign the personnel and resources to find and eliminate the people on that list. (By “eliminate” I mean capture or kill.) A specific task force should be set up to go after each target. We must use all of the resources available at every agency. Right now agencies, the CIA in particular, continue to act as if they have the monopoly on intelligence and in their arrogance refuse to take advantage of the skills and resources that exist in other parts of the U.S. Government. This is stupid and short sighted and must not be allowed to continue.

Here comes the hard part. It will be up to General Jones to ensure the mission is carried out. Remember when George Tenet claimed he declared a war on terror after the attacks on our embassies in east Africa in August 1998. The CIA developed a plan to go after Bin Laden. Let’s ignore for a moment that Tenet did not hold regular meetings to hold people accountable for implementing and executing that plan. Swell. But it was only a CIA plan. It was not the plan of the U.S. Government. It did not harness all of the resources of the U.S. Government–for example, the DEA’s operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan had relevant sources and resources that could have assisted the CIA effort and were not used. And we have seen that the CIA plan was a debacle. Bin Laden is still walking around, as is his deputy, Zawahiri.

Terrorism is not the greatest threat we face. There are worse things. But it is a serious threat that we can defeat if we approach it smartly in an organized, coordinated fashion. Let’s recognize we will need to use military force at times, but we will also have to rely on police work, diplomacy, intelligence collection, covert operations, and other nations. There is no single silver bullet. It takes a village to fight terrorism. Seems to me that someone in the Obama Administration is familiar with this concept.

  • rickrickrick

    The first thing he should do is throw Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn in Prison for life. Its hard to believe someone who has terrorist as friends is going to be tough on them.

  • bert

    It is obscene that our government still does not coordinate the job of keeping its citizens safe from terroists. Your plan sounds good to me, Larry. I hope Obama and General Jones are listening.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Excellent ideas, Larry. Now if we could only do away with the Last-Refuge-of-Scounderels Act.

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  • http://www.anvp.wordpress.com soldier4hillary

    Darn sorry about the pingback but great article Larry! Why the H$LL we cant have individuals like you up there running sh!t.

  • xax

    I always wondered why different agencies found it hard to coordinate.

    Is it that someone just has to be in charge all the time? What is the phenomena between various law enforcement and government agencies?

  • xax

    You always have such a way with words.

  • interested party

    Your arguments make much sense, Larry.

    Your 3 references to military involvment are limited indeed and may point to the proper role of the military in fighting terrorism. Two are restricted to sending advisers to aid local counter terrorism efforts (the Philippines and Mali) and the third was targeting of suspected positions in Somalia, something unrealistic in any other outside a broken, warring state. In none where ground troops committed or a ground assault attempted.

    Also, your coordination of intra-bureaucratic agencies within the U.S. also applies to cooperation with other countries’ intelligence operations. We at least have common goals if differing reasons for reaching them.

  • Mark

    Were Clancy and Flynn your source for the whitey tape story?

  • TeakwoodKite

    LJ, regarding that village, I hope it is not is not part of a fuedal culture that needs to sustain itself on the backs of those that serve with military or Infaguard members.

    Do you believe the co-ordination required to wage an asymetrical war is possible?

    I won’t miss Cheney.

  • Garry

    Why, are you a jock sniffer, too, Mark?

  • Mr. X

    Was the MSM your source for Obama?

  • hal

    http://www.poorrichardsalmanac.biz
    osama or obama? watch and decide!
    laugh or cry!

  • Garry

    What are your ideas on how to approach terrorism within a law enforcement/intelligence paradigm?

    Would the carrot and the stick be effective, while also utilizing an indirect, updated “cold war” method of containment on the governments funding terrorism?

    What about diplomatic engagement?

    I think some involved in the WOT, (on both sides), are simply thick, and if they’re thick, you have to take advantage of their mistakes, I suppose, working around them.

  • Lizzy

    Great analysis. I think you are right that the military is not the right group to fight terrorists. Our insistance that we are fighting a “War” on terror overstates what we need to do. Your suggestions of forcing cooperation among various agencies to accomplish our goals makes sense.

  • MrMike

    That nothing of any magnitude has happened in the U S sounds more like luck than any plan.
    On September 12 we should have started training people to go into these countries. If the terrorists can co-ordinate attacks using cell phones one person so equipped should be able to keep an eye on them.

  • jbjd

    The U.S. Government does not have a single, coordinated list of terrorist targets. FBI has its own list as does the CIA. DOD has a couple of different lists. Consequently, each agency pursues its targets according to its own internally derived priorities.

    These “internally derived priorities” are not just whether to go after terrorists; or which terrorists to go after, in what order; but whether their mandate is limited to Congressionally declared war or, military action; to domestic actions within the continental U.S. or, areas under U.S. military control wherever located; or under normal conditions or emergencies, declared or imminent. Who interprets the limits of statutory authority? Under what time frame? Too many agencies; too many cooks; too little oversight. More of a pissing contest than a strategic plan for pre-emptive self-defense.

    As for advising BO how to handle these national security issues…having failed to establish he is Constitutionally eligible for the job of POTUS, if he nonetheless occupies the Oval Office then, I would argue that, he knows more than anyone else about the ins and outs of national security.

  • Andy

    LJ,

    Excellent analysis and proposals. Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

    Pardon the ignorance of my questions : when Homeland Security was created, wasn’t part of its mission to coordinate the intelligence gathering between the different agencies, including CIA, DOD, FBI, DEA, etc?

    Wasn’t the lack of communication b/t agencies and the “not connecting the dots” problem that resulted from it in part responsible for the 9-11 attacks come to fruition?

    Besides coordination the various agencies “after an attack” was is Homeland Security’s mission?

    Thanks.

  • ritamary

    And exactly how would he legally through Bill Ayers and BERNARDINE DOHRN in jail? You can’t even spell their names correctly let along explain how this could be done legally. More than likely the statute of limitations has run out on whatever they did.

    Also I would think that currently active terrorists should have a much higher priority than two aging baby boomers who haven’t been active since the 1970s. Bernardine Dohrn has already served a prison sentence so would you try her for the same crimes? Or just throw her in jail? How Bushian of you.

  • catherine

    My source for OBAMA’S A BIG FAT LYING CHICAGO THUG are the numerous tapes now in the possession of the Feds.

    WE TOLD YOU SO, you pathetic bootlicking Obamajugend.

  • Steve1

    LJ

    Spot on review of Bush’s terrorist program! Very concrete suggestions to the Barry Soetoro adminstration. I believe Susan Rice will screw. muddle the whole foreign policy efforts regarding the fight against terrorism. She will undermine serious efforts by the Defense, State and National Security offices to organize the war against terrorism. Cabinet rank should not have been given to the position od Ambassdor to the UN!

  • Steve1

    ambassador

  • elliewyatt

    “More than likely the statute of limitations has run out on whatever they did.” No statute of limitations on MURDER.

    Bernardine Dorhn served some months in jail for REFUSING TO TESTIFY to a Grand Jury ivestigating the Brinks holdup, where four people were killed(it appeared that she supplied false IDs used by the murderers). She claimed that she “didn’t believe in grand juries”, that “they were illegal”, though she had a law degree. She was not imprisoned for any of her involvement in WU bombings, deaths or robberies, nor was Ayers. Because of law enforcement misconduct in illegal wiretapping, charges were dropped.

    HOWEVER, there is no statute of limitations on MURDER. Ayers implicated Dohrn (in planning, building and setting the bomb herself) to an FBI informant in the bombing murder of a police officer in San Francisco. This happened not to be one of the cases where charges were dropped.

    There was considerable renewed interest and investigation about 5 years ago by FBI and San Francisco law enforcement into the pursuit of Dohrn for the murder. Current status? Unknown.

    “whatever they did” Murder isn’t a “whatever”. They skated on many crimes including bombing the home of a judge with sleeping children. Maybe the murderess won’t skate in the end. So what if she’s now middle aged? Her grandchildren can send a card to her in San Quentin.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    Troll alert — this one is in an extreme delusional state.

    I would argue that, he* knows more than anyone else about the ins and outs of national security.

    *0blahblah

  • TeakwoodKite

    Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism and the Spread of Sunni Theofascism

    Nevertheless, Wahhabi penetration of US mainstream Islamic institutions is substantial. According to then FBI Assistant Director for Counterterrorism John S. Pistole, Umar was found to have “denied prisoners access to mainstream imams and materials” and “sought to incite prisoners against America, preaching that the 9/11 hijackers should be remembered as martyrs and heroes.”[25]

    Amb. Curtin Winsor, Ph.D. – 10/22/2007

  • jwrjr

    The military is suited for fighting armies. The bush regime has failed to notice that the terrorists do not fight as armies. So taking a military approach to terrorism is not only nearly certain to fail, it is likely to be a solution worse than the problem.

  • Strawberrybitch

    Um yeah and meanwhile we’re worried about Iran? Ugh. Thanks Teak.

  • http://ezinearticles.com/?Three-Basic-Parenting-Styles&id=744499 Northwest rain

    My guess is that the reason the various security agencies don’t cooperate is that if they gave away their “secret” list — then they would have less power and that would mean less money in the budget.

    Also, I suspect that the various security agencies, intelligence gathering services might not want to share HOW they obtain their intelligence — if they have real agents doing the leg work.

    Hasn’t there been a long history of duplication of efforts of Intelligence Gathering? For example both the Air Force and the Navy were doing fly overs of China, Russia and North Korea during the cold war years.

    And then it is far easier to spy on American citizens who mostly speak & write in English, then it is to hire translators who know the language and customs of several countries.

    begin snark

    Obama will have his frat boy speech writer crank out another speech to be sent to all known terrorists — these fanatics will then fall on their knees and acknowledge the superiority of the ONE — and all of our troubles will be over. NOT

    end snark

  • LAUREN

    My eight year old neighbor asked me this question the other day:
    What if there were no wars in the world and all the countries got along with each other, yet there were still terrorist attacks by a few groups from various countries all over the world? How would we “fight” terrorism?

  • truthtelling007

    “You can’t even spell their names correctly let along explain how this could be done legally. ”

    Look, if your superiority comes from finding a missing H in the name Dohrn…

    Now RickRick might have simply been rhetorical instead of really believing this would be a real legal path, but YOU were quick to catch that H…

    And as a lover of metaphors…how is what he said, Bushian?

    I’d love to throw them both in jail, but yes, I’m too stupid to know what double jeopardy is. I am not wise enough to understand how we can let Ayers walk as free as Bin Laden. I’m too ignorant to understand statue of limitations since my memory has faded in the last few years…what were we saying?

    Please keep your snipe on the level of the rest of your stuff and you too might be taken seriously.

    Now, I’ll go back to learning what Larry has to say to us here…(my request for forgiveness from the rest of the crowd. I just abhor the spell checker snobs. Stupid people do live in this world too and their views can be valuable to us if we don’t act so arrogant towards them.)

    Larry’s article demonstrates something that I relate to from a position as student of Sun Tzu’s writings. He would demonstrate that a large army was vulnerable to having supply lines cut, insurrections, and of course mobility.

    The rest of this crap the Bush admin engaged in, supported by its sycophantic Congress and ambiguous Supreme Court, was morbid theater to let us believe we were the might nation who could. Instead, we are now on the ropes economically, environmentally, politically, and morally. They’ve let their bravado go, and WE didn’t stop them from doing it. Whether by fear of enemy or too much time painting a protest sign, we are culpable in the outcome.

    With the new Admin, I want to see criminal prosecutions of the current Admin figures who willfully deceived us, accountability to those who collaborated in approval of illegal wiretaps, destroyed our intelligence operatives, and investigation into potential profits that Cheney and others made from this war.

    But to the merit of LJs article about succeeding, he’s spot on about the logistics to at least quell terror attacks and take out leadership.

    Master Sun Tzu demonstrated that the best militarists were those who could prevent alliances from developing.

    Master Sun Tzu then demonstrated that the next best militarists were those who could prevent plots from developing in case alliances existed.

    He juxtaposed this to the worst; those who seize cities (Bush and Co)

    Being in war means you failed.
    Bush and Cheney are indeed both jock sniffers (thanks LJ for that one!) too. It makes them feel tough. They are too fucking clueless to know what to do because bravado rules the day, aka Cowboy Diplomacy.
    Thanks LJ and NQ

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Fine analysis indeed, Larry. Hugely informative post.

  • TeakwoodKite

    The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King’s College London.

    If we are a “nation of laws” what does this say of our society at large, in terms of dealing with “terrorism” domestically. Mr. Johnson got me thinking about “the village” and the ability to the maintain vigilance required in a “free society”.

    Considering that terrorism has it’s roots in human nature and the co-opting of many a valid grievance, how a village goes about dealing with it’s own says a lot about the larger picture. The US did not go along with the UN General Assembly’s Historic Vote for LGBT Rights with the General Assembly declaration in support of the decriminalization of homosexuality.
    Sorry to say the government of the people , for the people and by the people…don’t support these efforts of equality. There in, are the seeds of destruction.

    Opposing the resolution, were the United States, the Holy See, and members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference. This latter group issued its own statement claiming the declaration would ease restrictions against pedophilia. The United States couched its opposition in legal technicalities. “We are opposed to any discrimination, legally or politically,” said Alejandro D. Wolff, the deputy U.S. ambassador. “But the nature of our federal system prevents us from undertaking commitments and engagements where federal authorities don’t have jurisdiction.”

  • truthtelling007

    Seems many of these divisions came with our progress through the civil rights issues of the last 100 years. As an agency developed, we seemed to have a need (and I would argue we would) to limit the agencies to specific tasks. But as these agencies have expanded their bureaucracies and the policies and precedents emerged, we must now act on the suggestions that came out of the 9/11 Commission related to sharing intelligence.

    I do believe if a sincere effort is made to do both, share resources and maintain reasonable limits on the agencies, we can achieve a consensus that will work. But that isn’t the game in DC, victory! is the game.
    Thanks LJ and NQ

  • NoTrollZone

    Northwest, I believe that was snark. Implying that if Obama could get around national security by being potus without evidence of eligibility, well then he’s pretty damn good at skirting national secutiy. I think that’s what poster meant.

  • oowawa

    NW Rain, I do not understand what jbjd means by that sentence. He may be being sarcastic. From stuff he/she has posted in the past, I do not believe he/she is a troll. Check out his/her website and make your own judgment:

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  • Hot Librarian

    One problem in this article is after deciding X is a terrorist threat to USA -Lj says Us govt agencies have the right to go out & kill them. (theoretical because they cant find most).

    And some people are complaining of that Guy in london getting done in by Moscow?

  • Garry

    Right.

    You’d think, you know?

    And the flexibilty of terrorists allows them to bait armies, in fact, wasn’t that the whole idea behind guerilla warfare, in part to break the method of defense used by established militaries?

    Seems obvious, I wonder why the Cheney people didn’t think of it?

  • Garry

    I didn’t quite get that impression from LJ’s article.

    But the two are hardly comparable, correct?

  • Strawberrybitch

    Maybe it’s too much Cabernet, but how in the world does decriminalizing homosexuality ease restrictions against pedophilia? Um, the last time I checked, all my gay friends like big, muscley, manly men…with abs you could grate cheese on, and my lesbian friends are in love with Nicole Kidman and Jodie Foster…not exactly examples of children. It makes you wonder about the people say that kind of crap.

  • TeakwoodKite

    With the new Admin, I want to see criminal prosecutions of the current Admin figures who willfully deceived us, accountability to those who collaborated in approval of illegal wiretaps, destroyed our intelligence operatives, and investigation into potential profits that Cheney and others made from this war.

    .

    Respectfully, You will not see them. If Pelosi was saying “no impeachment” you can be sure this phrase will be modified to “no investigation”.

  • rickrickrick

    dear ritamary~ I would prefer to live in a world/country where people don’t kill others to prove a point. You on the other hand must feel comfortable with the likes of Ayers/Dorn walking the street. You must have a death wish. Spell check this Beyotch

  • Strawberrybitch

    You’re an ass. And an insecure “male”. And yes, I am a BITCH. Back off little man. Misogeny has no place here.

  • Barr

    Over 90% of pedophiles are straight men. Even when clergymen abuse children, they are called “gay”. But they’re not gay – they’re straight. Because of their life-long devotion to the church to the exclusion of most everything else, their emotional and sexual level is around that of an adolescent, so they are threatened by grown women, and aren’t “allowed” to have sexual relationships. They’re pedophiles. Straight male pedophiles.

    For some reason a lot of people cling to the misperception that gays are pedophiles, and that all pedophiles are gay. Guess it’s “safer” to think that.

  • Hot Librarian

    Well -One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter or somewhat.

    Nelson Mandela was still a terrorist on US files until very recently.

    Hizz is not seen as terrorist org by many Lebanese.

    Uighars are terrorists to China .

    Chechnyans are almost globally seen as terrorists except to the British who have a blind spot there. Even Beslan did not lessen their devotion. Litvinov cames under this umbrella plus his Chechyan comrades resiling in London.to Russia they are terrorists but USA has o argment wit Russia’s handling of Chechnya.

    The US would need to involve their treaty intelligence partners eg the Uk as above but ,as in Chechnya – they dont necessarily agree.

    All in all the previous workings of American assassination plots may have been successful & we are not aware or they might have been comical eg the multi attemptsto do in Castro.

    IMo 9/11 was an economic attack. But what about Madoff? Who are the real terorists to USA. Might they be in Wall St wearing 3 piece suits?

  • Hot Librarian

    Make that _USA has no argument with russia ‘s handling of Chechnya.

  • mlr701

    Larry, thank you for this piece. I miss the more security-minded No Quarter! :-)

  • Tricia Spiegel

    Thanks Larry. Fascinating! Also scary, but we need to know these things. I hope Obama listens to you.

  • jwrjr

    They didn’t think of it because then KBR et al would not make as much of our money from it.

  • Rock

    Too bad you threw your credibility down the crapper with the Whitey Tape and Birth Certificate nonsense.

    At one time serious people actually listened to you.

  • http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com vbonnaire

    This was frightening to read. I wish the world looked different. I just came from Uppity’s. What scares me most about this whole deal is the corruption. It appears to be on all fronts. We can’t even trust leaders of corporations or Madoff types.

    You wonder how these people have done what they have done. It was that sentence “there are worse things” that worries me most.

    People who could care less about this country are responsible for this mess. It’s disgusting. Disgusting. And we still don’t know about Chicago, do we? We don’t. The dissent is not something we needed after the last eight years. It really isn’t. That is the scariest — and malignant narcissists?
    They could care less, Larry…

    It’s like what Uppity wrote about AIG. I see this time as the Crusades circa 2008. Warren? He is one to watch. He maybe wants to convert the world to his worldview…?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-O0I6onR_4

    Their alliance is going to be quite something in the eyes of the world.

    Merry Christmas to all of you at NQ.

  • Rob G in Chicago

    Rock:

    And the basis or source of your credibility is ?

    You come into someone elses house and crap on their floor and expect a pat on the back ?

  • Bazooka

    Larry,

    A good constructive piece on your website. Now if you can only convince the other wingnuts on your website to write about something interesting, relevant, insightful and actually about something they have some knowledge about your website would be much better.

    This continual re-living the election and bitching and whinning about Obama and how Hillary should have have won is getting old and extremely borrowing. We get it, you people hate Obama and think he is a fake and Hillary should have won. We get it.

  • truthtelling007

    Then we must make sure Pelosi doesn’t have such luxuries, don’t we.

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  • http://www.kerago.com Joseph

    wireless sniffers…

    I can’t believe I missed this! I’m going to have to do some more reading me thinks….

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