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		<title>By: CentralMass</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102380</link>
		<dc:creator>CentralMass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That depends on how you let the DNC slice up Florida and Michigan. There are other untangibles like blatant meida bias for Obama and against Hillary as well as colusion from part leaders. False cliams of race-baiting in S.C.

From FactCheck
Q: Did Clinton win the popular vote?
Did Hillary Clinton actually end up with more popular votes than Barack Obama? Given that there is some discussion on whether to count the popular votes of Michigan and Florida, as well as how to count caucus votes, who did end up with the higher count? 
A: Obama won more votes unless you count Michigan, where he wasn&#039;t on the ballot.
After the primary season wrapped up on Tuesday, Clinton commended her supporters and claimed once again that she had won the popular vote: &quot;Nearly 18 million of you cast your votes for our campaign, carrying the popular vote with more votes than any primary candidate in history.&quot; 

Did she? Now that all the primaries and caucuses are over we can take one, final look.

Obama won more total votes than Clinton in the contests where they both appeared on the ballot. Clinton won the popular vote only if you count votes from Michigan, where Obama&#039;s name did not appear on the ballot. 

Any way you cut it, the candidates&#039; vote totals are within less than 1 percent of each other. Both candidates got roughly 18 million votes, but since four states don&#039;t list official counts, the precise totals can&#039;t be known.

The political Web site Real Clear Politics has an excellent tally, with links to official reports from state election authorities. Those show that even counting Clinton&#039;s win in Florida, where the two were on the ballot but did not campaign due to the state&#039;s violation of party rules, Obama beat Clinton in the popular vote by 41,622 votes – a small margin, only 0.1 percent. Obama&#039;s margin grows to 151,844 votes, or 0.4 percent, when estimates are included for Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, which did not release official totals of popular votes.

Only by counting Michigan, where Clinton&#039;s name was on the ballot but Obama&#039;s was not, can Clinton claim to have won more votes. Counting only officially reported results, Michigan puts Clinton&#039;s total ahead nationally by 286,687 votes or 0.8 percent. Once estimated votes from the four non-reporting states are included, the margin becomes less significant: 176,465 votes, or 0.5 percent. And if Michigan&#039;s &quot;uncommited&quot; votes were accorded to Obama, he&#039;d have a 61,703-vote lead (0.2 percent), counting estimates from the non-reporting states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That depends on how you let the DNC slice up Florida and Michigan. There are other untangibles like blatant meida bias for Obama and against Hillary as well as colusion from part leaders. False cliams of race-baiting in S.C.</p>
<p>From FactCheck<br />
Q: Did Clinton win the popular vote?<br />
Did Hillary Clinton actually end up with more popular votes than Barack Obama? Given that there is some discussion on whether to count the popular votes of Michigan and Florida, as well as how to count caucus votes, who did end up with the higher count?<br />
A: Obama won more votes unless you count Michigan, where he wasn&#8217;t on the ballot.<br />
After the primary season wrapped up on Tuesday, Clinton commended her supporters and claimed once again that she had won the popular vote: &#8220;Nearly 18 million of you cast your votes for our campaign, carrying the popular vote with more votes than any primary candidate in history.&#8221; </p>
<p>Did she? Now that all the primaries and caucuses are over we can take one, final look.</p>
<p>Obama won more total votes than Clinton in the contests where they both appeared on the ballot. Clinton won the popular vote only if you count votes from Michigan, where Obama&#8217;s name did not appear on the ballot. </p>
<p>Any way you cut it, the candidates&#8217; vote totals are within less than 1 percent of each other. Both candidates got roughly 18 million votes, but since four states don&#8217;t list official counts, the precise totals can&#8217;t be known.</p>
<p>The political Web site Real Clear Politics has an excellent tally, with links to official reports from state election authorities. Those show that even counting Clinton&#8217;s win in Florida, where the two were on the ballot but did not campaign due to the state&#8217;s violation of party rules, Obama beat Clinton in the popular vote by 41,622 votes – a small margin, only 0.1 percent. Obama&#8217;s margin grows to 151,844 votes, or 0.4 percent, when estimates are included for Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, which did not release official totals of popular votes.</p>
<p>Only by counting Michigan, where Clinton&#8217;s name was on the ballot but Obama&#8217;s was not, can Clinton claim to have won more votes. Counting only officially reported results, Michigan puts Clinton&#8217;s total ahead nationally by 286,687 votes or 0.8 percent. Once estimated votes from the four non-reporting states are included, the margin becomes less significant: 176,465 votes, or 0.5 percent. And if Michigan&#8217;s &#8220;uncommited&#8221; votes were accorded to Obama, he&#8217;d have a 61,703-vote lead (0.2 percent), counting estimates from the non-reporting states.</p>
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		<title>By: CentralMass</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102347</link>
		<dc:creator>CentralMass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we should try the purple thumb method.</description>
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		<title>By: BetterBashaBigotor2</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102264</link>
		<dc:creator>BetterBashaBigotor2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada does not want these bigots infecting their gene pool. This bunch of bigots will wipe themselves out anyway through their inbreeding. 

ID Cards, no early voting, &quot;scary black people&quot; at the polls. No wonder Stormfront loves this lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canada does not want these bigots infecting their gene pool. This bunch of bigots will wipe themselves out anyway through their inbreeding. </p>
<p>ID Cards, no early voting, &#8220;scary black people&#8221; at the polls. No wonder Stormfront loves this lot.</p>
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		<title>By: imustprotest</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102256</link>
		<dc:creator>imustprotest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well!  If you&#039;re looking for someone who doesn&#039;t have to try hard.....you&#039;ve picked the right guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well!  If you&#8217;re looking for someone who doesn&#8217;t have to try hard&#8230;..you&#8217;ve picked the right guy!</p>
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		<title>By: AOK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102247</link>
		<dc:creator>AOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty simple, get over it or move to Canada. I had to suffer for 8 years under Dubya and the neocons while they ruined my country. I&#039;m still alive, although pissed off, but still alive. You&#039;ll just have to suck it up and drive on like I did.  I, like most Americans, think Obama will do a much better job than Shrub. I&#039;m proud of my support of Obama and his policies. I can hold my head high and feel great pride in my country and my government like I did when Clinton was president. We voted in a guy who won&#039;t fall asleep at the wheel when America needs him the most. Although I didn&#039;t vote for him, I gained a modicum of respect for Bush after 9/11 for his leadership. He then ruined that with taking his eye off of the ball with Iraq and his mishandling of the Katrina disaster. He is still allowing Usama Bin Laden to practically get away with murder. This was an unforgivable and irreconcilable dereliction of his presidential duty. He will truly be known as the worst president ever. Obama doesn&#039;t have to try hard to surpass Bush&#039;s minuscule accomplishments as president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty simple, get over it or move to Canada. I had to suffer for 8 years under Dubya and the neocons while they ruined my country. I&#8217;m still alive, although pissed off, but still alive. You&#8217;ll just have to suck it up and drive on like I did.  I, like most Americans, think Obama will do a much better job than Shrub. I&#8217;m proud of my support of Obama and his policies. I can hold my head high and feel great pride in my country and my government like I did when Clinton was president. We voted in a guy who won&#8217;t fall asleep at the wheel when America needs him the most. Although I didn&#8217;t vote for him, I gained a modicum of respect for Bush after 9/11 for his leadership. He then ruined that with taking his eye off of the ball with Iraq and his mishandling of the Katrina disaster. He is still allowing Usama Bin Laden to practically get away with murder. This was an unforgivable and irreconcilable dereliction of his presidential duty. He will truly be known as the worst president ever. Obama doesn&#8217;t have to try hard to surpass Bush&#8217;s minuscule accomplishments as president.</p>
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		<title>By: reno</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102246</link>
		<dc:creator>reno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote early and vote often.. If you have a problem with that then you must be one of the stupid ones..</description>
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		<title>By: AOK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102235</link>
		<dc:creator>AOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that &lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt; votes should be counted, especially military and overseas votes, Obama won Virginia by 234527 votes. There were only 3285 votes not counted and who knows how many of them were for Obama. It&#039;s very unfortunate that these votes were left out, but they wouldn&#039;t have made that much of an impact in the grand scheme of things anyway. Even if they were all for McCain/Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that <strong>all</strong> votes should be counted, especially military and overseas votes, Obama won Virginia by 234527 votes. There were only 3285 votes not counted and who knows how many of them were for Obama. It&#8217;s very unfortunate that these votes were left out, but they wouldn&#8217;t have made that much of an impact in the grand scheme of things anyway. Even if they were all for McCain/Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: BetterBashaBigotOr2</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102232</link>
		<dc:creator>BetterBashaBigotOr2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So poor people who do not drive, or are homeless should not vote. Do you still think they should exclude black voters or are just wanting to hide your real views by introducing unconstitutional ID requirements?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So poor people who do not drive, or are homeless should not vote. Do you still think they should exclude black voters or are just wanting to hide your real views by introducing unconstitutional ID requirements?</p>
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		<title>By: BetterBashaBigotOr2</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102230</link>
		<dc:creator>BetterBashaBigotOr2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow you lot are nothing but insane bitter bigots. OOh there were big scary black people. I bet they made you all run away to scratch a B in your bigot faces. You complete and utter dumb fools. Just some facts you may need to have gone to one of them book learning places to understand though. (Thankfully you all still support Palin so at least 3 more Democratic terms are secure). 

2004 Election
Bush - Republican 62,040,610 	(who you lot vote for)
This was 50.7% of the vote.

Kerry - Democratic 59,028,444
This was 48.3% of the vote

2008 Election
Obama Democratic 69,456,897 	
This was 10,428,453 votes higher than the Democrtaic candidate in 2004. 10 million MORE. Lick that you stupid bigots. 

59,934,786 McCain Palin - Republican
This was 3 million less votes than Bush got in 2004. So McCain failed to even beat Bush. WOw you stupid bigots. I hope you cried like anything. Oh yeah you did you are still bitter bigots. He got 10 million less votes than Obama. Wow. You silly bigots still claim 18 million supporters. If that is true, McCain only got 41,934,786  votes on his own. I doubt you actually changed the figures by as many as 10 votes. 


The percentage share of the vote was 
Obama Pro America 52.9%
McCain Palin - Pro Illegal Drugs 45.7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow you lot are nothing but insane bitter bigots. OOh there were big scary black people. I bet they made you all run away to scratch a B in your bigot faces. You complete and utter dumb fools. Just some facts you may need to have gone to one of them book learning places to understand though. (Thankfully you all still support Palin so at least 3 more Democratic terms are secure). </p>
<p>2004 Election<br />
Bush &#8211; Republican 62,040,610 	(who you lot vote for)<br />
This was 50.7% of the vote.</p>
<p>Kerry &#8211; Democratic 59,028,444<br />
This was 48.3% of the vote</p>
<p>2008 Election<br />
Obama Democratic 69,456,897<br />
This was 10,428,453 votes higher than the Democrtaic candidate in 2004. 10 million MORE. Lick that you stupid bigots. </p>
<p>59,934,786 McCain Palin &#8211; Republican<br />
This was 3 million less votes than Bush got in 2004. So McCain failed to even beat Bush. WOw you stupid bigots. I hope you cried like anything. Oh yeah you did you are still bitter bigots. He got 10 million less votes than Obama. Wow. You silly bigots still claim 18 million supporters. If that is true, McCain only got 41,934,786  votes on his own. I doubt you actually changed the figures by as many as 10 votes. </p>
<p>The percentage share of the vote was<br />
Obama Pro America 52.9%<br />
McCain Palin &#8211; Pro Illegal Drugs 45.7</p>
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		<title>By: AOK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102225</link>
		<dc:creator>AOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight: 18 year olds shouldn&#039;t be able to vote just because you PUMAs weren&#039;t satisfied with the results of this election? Are you serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight: 18 year olds shouldn&#8217;t be able to vote just because you PUMAs weren&#8217;t satisfied with the results of this election? Are you serious?</p>
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		<title>By: BetterBashaBigotOr2</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102223</link>
		<dc:creator>BetterBashaBigotOr2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow you lot are nothing but insane bitter bigots. OOh there were big scary black people. I bet they made you all run away to scratch a B in your bigot faces. You complete and utter dumb fools. Just some facts you may need to have gone to one of them book learning places to understand though. (Thankfully you all still support Palin so at least 3 more Democratic terms are secure). 

2004 Election
Bush - Republican 62,040,610 	(who you lot vote for)
This was 50.7% of the vote.

Kerry - Democratic 59,028,444
This was 48.3% of the vote

2008 Election
Obama Democratic 69,456,897 	
This was 10,428,453 votes higher than the Democrtaic candidate in 2004. 10 million MORE. Lick that you stupid bigots. 

59,934,786 McCain Palin - Republican
This was 3 million less votes than Bush got in 2004. So McCain failed to even beat Bush. WOw you stupid bigots. I hope you cried like anything. Oh yeah you did you are still bitter bigots. He got 10 million less votes than Obama. Wow. You silly bigots still claim 18 million supporters. If that is true, McCain only got 41,934,786  votes on his own. I doubt you actually changed the figures by as many as 10 votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow you lot are nothing but insane bitter bigots. OOh there were big scary black people. I bet they made you all run away to scratch a B in your bigot faces. You complete and utter dumb fools. Just some facts you may need to have gone to one of them book learning places to understand though. (Thankfully you all still support Palin so at least 3 more Democratic terms are secure). </p>
<p>2004 Election<br />
Bush &#8211; Republican 62,040,610 	(who you lot vote for)<br />
This was 50.7% of the vote.</p>
<p>Kerry &#8211; Democratic 59,028,444<br />
This was 48.3% of the vote</p>
<p>2008 Election<br />
Obama Democratic 69,456,897<br />
This was 10,428,453 votes higher than the Democrtaic candidate in 2004. 10 million MORE. Lick that you stupid bigots. </p>
<p>59,934,786 McCain Palin &#8211; Republican<br />
This was 3 million less votes than Bush got in 2004. So McCain failed to even beat Bush. WOw you stupid bigots. I hope you cried like anything. Oh yeah you did you are still bitter bigots. He got 10 million less votes than Obama. Wow. You silly bigots still claim 18 million supporters. If that is true, McCain only got 41,934,786  votes on his own. I doubt you actually changed the figures by as many as 10 votes.</p>
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		<title>By: AOK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102219</link>
		<dc:creator>AOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They stayed home because the knew McCain/Palin had no chance. That&#039;s it in a nutshell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They stayed home because the knew McCain/Palin had no chance. That&#8217;s it in a nutshell.</p>
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		<title>By: AOK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102218</link>
		<dc:creator>AOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but he was voted in. Obama won and is wasn&#039;t close. Please stop trying to manufacture controversy when there&#039;s none present. Anything to make you PUMAs feel better about the butt kicking McCain/Palin in the GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but he was voted in. Obama won and is wasn&#8217;t close. Please stop trying to manufacture controversy when there&#8217;s none present. Anything to make you PUMAs feel better about the butt kicking McCain/Palin in the GE.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102210</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm....And these folks in DC gave themselves a RAI$E....SHEEESH!
&lt;strong&gt;A rousing article Rev....You Rock!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;.And these folks in DC gave themselves a RAI$E&#8230;.SHEEESH!<br />
<strong>A rousing article Rev&#8230;.You Rock!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: ACPD</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9478/possible-voter-fraud/#comment-1102196</link>
		<dc:creator>ACPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2008/12/30/news/doc495a1f0b4cb3f743609319.txt

Here&#039;s one guy who was caught.  I wonder how many got away with cheating during the election....more than one, I&#039;ll bet.....</description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s one guy who was caught.  I wonder how many got away with cheating during the election&#8230;.more than one, I&#8217;ll bet&#8230;..</p>
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