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Gaza: A view from the other side

I am certainly no expert in Middle Eastern affairs. Like many here, I just gather all the information I can and then form my opinions based on my own internal belief system. Like all, I have built in biases and pre-dispositions that shape those beliefs.

I am Jewish and have thus spent a lifetime having the history of Israel and the Jewish People explained to be from a very Zionist perspective. I have family in Israel and through the modern wonders of instant electronic communication, I am privy to the facts as they see them instantly.

Even so, I am often critical of the Israeli government and how they respond to given situations. As someone, who has spent a life in politics and public relations, I often look at an event in terms of how it will be perceived. When it comes to world perception, Israel can rarely win unless it has suffered a catastrophic loss. Thanks to the efficiency of the Israeli military and intelligence communities, those catastrophic losses are few and far between. So a military response, as the current one in Gaza is sure to be condemned by most of world community (with the excpetion of Pro-Israel lobbies here in the States.) Knowing this, my first response to the recent Israeli measures is to ask, “what the hell are they thinking?”

And reading the responses from those here at No Quarter has shown me that I was pretty much on target with how the world would view what Israel is doing. I have enormous respect for Larry Johnson and the other writers who have openly condemned the Israeli government in the strongest possible terms. Israel is again losing the P.R. war. But, public relations isn’t everything. There is another side. Victor Hanson wrote a thought provoking piece posted over at Real Clear Politics that provides other points of view worth considering. You can read the entire piece here

I will summarize a few key sections.

Legitimate military action is strangely defined by the relative strength of the combatants. World opinion more vehemently condemns Israel’s countermeasures, apparently because its rockets are far more accurate and deadly than previous Hamas barrages that are poorly targeted and thus not so lethal.

Second, intent in this war no longer matters. Every Hamas unguided rocket is launched in hopes of hitting an Israeli home and killing men, women and children. Every guided Israeli air-launched missile is targeted at Hamas operatives, who deliberately work in the closest vicinity to women and children.

Killing Palestinian civilians is incidental to Israeli military operations and proves counterproductive to its objectives. Blowing up Israeli non-combatants is the aim of Hamas’ barrages: the more children, aged and women who die, the more it expects political concessions from Tel Aviv.

Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 to great expectations that the Palestinians there would combine their new autonomy, some existing infrastructure left behind by the Israelis, Middle East oil money and American pressure for free and open elections to craft a peaceful, prosperous democracy.

The world hoped that Gaza might thrive first, and then later adjudicate its ongoing disputes with Israel through diplomacy. Instead, the withdrawal was seen not as a welcome Israeli concession, but as a sign of newfound Jewish weakness — and that the intifada tactics that had liberated Gaza could be amplified into a new war to end the Zionist entity itself.

Hanson makes some valid points. The problem is, Israel can never win. It is a nation surrounded by “neighbors” who will always have large groups within their populations intent on seeking the destruction of the Jewish state. Hamas and other groups like it can only be defeated by their Arab brothers. The question is what is more likely to get them to stand up to the likes of Hamas. Turning the other cheek and ignoring the rockets aimed at your citizens while trying to negotiate or destroying the communities that house the missile launchers, munitions and terrorists?

Israel has chosen the second option. The collateral damage is horrific and unacceptable. This response will undoubtedly add to anti-Israel fervor and strengthen the resolve of those who are sympathetic to Hamas. At the same time, maybe, just maybe, it may cause others to not allow Hamas to set up shop where they and their children live. There is no black and white, it is all an ugly gray tinted with crimson Arab and Jewish blood.

  • bart

    Very interesting. Thanks for another perspective.

  • jbjd

    I am so sorry, this is OT but, I am in the middle of perfecting a Complaint and, I need some help.

    Someone sent to me a link to a posting of a letter from an official in HI in response to his inquiry, explaining how that state had determined BO was eligible to get his name on the state general election ballot. He posted the letter, explaining they took the word of the DNC. He also posted the 2 attachments to the letter: a copy of the “Official Certification of Nomination” signed by the RNC for John McCain; and the the DNC Certification, signed by Nancy Pelosi. But I noticed immediately, something was very wrong with the Certification provided by the DNC.

    This HI version of the Certification letter is different from the version of the Certification letter received by SC.

    Here is the material portion of that document from HI.

    THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/9344926/Hawaii-Dems-and-Repubs-Say-Constitutionally-Eligible

    Here is the same portion from the Certification received by SC.

    THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/foia-request-response-from-va-document-from-va-sos-signed-by-nancy-pelosi-stating-that-pelosi-certified-obamas-qualifications/dnc-certification_of_nomination-082908-2/

    See the difference? Also, the SC version was date stamped received by SC, whereas this HI version contains no stamp of receipt. However, the RNC Certification also attached to that letter from HI, does contain a receipt stamp.

    In addition, the signatures of Nancy Pelosi are different. Did she sign 51 Certifications, one for each state and the D.C.?

    So as not to hijack this thread, if you have any information, please email my blog. ALL COMMENTS ARE IN MODERATION.

    http://jbjd.wordpress.com/

  • RobWarrior

    You are welcome, there obviously are no easy answers.

  • JillD

    The US isn’t able to effectively police its own cities in many places. I wish Israel luck.

  • Mort

    Israel is again losing the P.R. war. But, public relations isn’t everything. There is
    _____
    See, this isnt a PR war, this is a real war.

    Probelm is, Israel is an aggressor, and as with any aggressor, they can be manipulated.

    After this attack, then what?

    Another?

    How will they occupy, do they have a secret the US missed in Iraq?

    And, if the Russians wanted to game the US through ISrael, say, all they would have to do is have Hamas launch a few rockets, initaite an ISraeli reaction, with the US approving? How many years will it take until the US is isolated like Israel, too? Did we see a preview under Bush and his pro neocon stance?

    Countires at war continually are broken, the model Israel is pursuing is no different than the Soviets in Afghanistan, or the US in IRaq, why would Israel’s fate be different?

    Removing the emotion and the PR, all one sees is amatuer flawed theory on the part of Israel, a country very easy to provoke.

    The US will, IS, suffering to, becoming isolated the same way Israel is due to it’s military actions.

    The other point is, when looked at a whole, ISrael’s history begets some very interesting patterns. The Arab terrorist groups are in no way an alternative, but the US needs to evaluate ISrael’s actions very honestly.

  • http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com vbonnaire

    The leader of the United Nations wants to use the Poet Rumi as a bridge between cultures. Rumi is a mystical poet from antiquity. Fostering a dialogue could be the only chance? Before this crisis escalates further.

    I feel if they keep on with this — and the “Clash of Civilizations” thesis is correct it is the only hope for the planet. The top scholars from around the world need to be on this, because this looks savage to the world. It really does. Humanitarians cannot stand more war on this planet. I wish our President would leave office by helping the UN foster that. The UN is the most powerful tool we’ve got. If we lose that ability to reason with each other, what will be left?

    We will no longer be human. This New Years Day can mark a change by looking back to WWII — and saying NO. Just stop making war. This day can make a turning point away from cruelty and inhumanitarianism.

    Agression and hostility will only beget more of that.

    Instead, the world could try a new tack. We all live under the same sky, pollution affects all of us, we all have a need for food and shelter, and water and love.

    That is the humanitarian way of looking at things. What good is a human life if it creates or is a victim of constant fear?

    Who would want to live in a world where the borders were all locked down? It would be like living in hell and no one would ever be able to travel.

    How did we get here from the 1970′s? It’s just not that long ago. It isn’t. All countries need to be on the UN team, working to help each other.

    All I know is that what is happening over there right now is inhuman. And there will be many who feel as I do, not just as an American. In the Western world.

    Diversity of cultures matter, and religions too.

    It makes the world interesting. Poverty and fear breed hatred, not kindness. This is just tragic. Just tragic. This is not the way to go out of one Presidency into another, either.

    And, I am very concerned for Hillary right now.

    McCain would know what to do, right now– if we help in a humanitarian way right now — the world will see us like that again. Americans aren’t bad guys.

  • Mort

    Problem is this isnt a PR war, this is a real war.

    ISrael will fail, for any number of reasons, looked at honestly, the Israeli military srategy is delusional.

  • Yinon

    What do you mean the casualties are horrific? The highest percentage of civilian casualties reported is 25%, and that’s from the UN agency specifically created for Palestinian refugrees. From my own count it’s around 20%. Do you know how good 20% is, considering what Hamas does with the Palestinian civilians? Unheard of. The U.S. military would have KILLED (no pun intended) for those numbers in Iraq. There’s nothing horrific about it – it’s amazing.

  • rolling_thunder

    OT
    In case you missed it…
    Hill and Bill at times square last night.
    Enjoy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjuI9zstmeY&eurl

  • Nocturnal Warrior

    While the accuracy and execution of the Israeli military is commendable, to me, all collateral damage is horrific.

  • helenk

    OT ALSO
    At Hillbuzz there is an article about Putin and the Ukraine that along with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that is scary.
    Does backtrack intend to do anything useful?
    It is like the whole world knows an empty suit has been selected for the White House.
    It will be an “anything goes” time in the world now.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • NoBamaNoWay

    I hear you, Rob. Israel is in a more difficult position than most people in the US can even imagine. The reality is that the average arab/muslim will accept nothing less than the total elimination of Israel. add to this that many of them have no connection with what most of us would call rationality or the real world. they will happily kill themselves if they can take a few israelis (men, women, or children) with them. how do you combat people who would rather die than live in peace?

    i think that a lot of “progressives” think that if israel will just make this or that concession or stop attacks like what is going on now, the palestinians and the rest of the arab world will make nice and they will all live together happily ever after. not going to happen. i don’t agree with all of israel’s tactics, but given what they are facing, i’m not going to second-guess them too much.

  • jbjd

    I have a partial answer to some of my questions. HI law requires the Party to certify the nominee is Constitutionally eligible.

    NOMINEE OF A QUALIFIED POLITICAL PARTY

    A. SWORN APPLICATION (HRS §11-113)

    1. The sworn application shall be filed not later than 4:30 p.m. on the 60th day prior to the general election with the chief election officer in the Office of Elections.

    The deadline to file the sworn application is Friday, September 5,

    2008.

    2. The sworn application shall include:

    a.
    the names and addresses of each of the two candidates;
    b.
    a statement that each candidate is legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution; and
    c.
    a statement that candidates are duly chosen candidates of both the state and national party, giving time, place, and manner of selection (where applicable).

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/radical/ kat in your hat

    Answering Israel’s critics

    “Six clichés you are likely to hear constantly in the coming days, and why they’re false”

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3647296,00.html

  • I’m a Linda too

    To be perfectly honest, I haven’t posted any comments on the other threads talking about the heavy hand of Israel, because I think it’s being “PC” without mentioning strong enough WHO THE HELL KEEPS STARTING THIS CRAP.

    I have always in the past condemned the strong action and unnecessary bully tactics, and like the last time, Israel got a bad rap when Hamas started firing the rockets.

    But this time, I actually almost split my gut when HAMAS broke the agreement AGAIN and started firing on Israel AGAIN and they cried….”now Israel has gone too far”. WELL EXCUSE THE F@CK OUT OF ME. GEE, NEXT TIME YOU START FIRING ON ISRAEL, HAMAS, ALSO LET THEM KNOW HOW MUCH RESPOSE Y O U THINK IS FAIR!!! I D I O T S.

    I’m starting to go the other way for Israel. I don’t have to be PC to say…”gee, a little too much and strong a response…after all, they didn’t get nearly the percentage kills.

    WHAT THE HECK DOES ISRAEL HAVE TO DO WHEN THEY HAMAS KEEPS FIRING MISSILES, ROCKETS, kidnapping, bombs. And now Hamas is making saps out of Americans, “gee, Israel, you are good so you don’t need to have such a strong response for Hamas breaking agreements and firing on you without reason. (snark)

    I’m getting pretty tired of Hamas and others crying foul when they keep starting this crap. What is it going to take for THEM to want peace? They just keep showing there is nothing that can be done without them terrorizing and starting war just because they are Israel.

    There, I hope I made up for the last few posts I haven’t commented on.

    Now, Israel can attempt again to stop and show they are bigger than these piss ant Hamas that apparently need a lot of attention. And if they continue firing as usual, then what?

    done.

    Peace out.

  • Sonic Ninja Kitty

    Thank you RobWarrior. This is an interesting article full of humaneness. What stands out to me it the point about perceptions:

    Israel is again losing the P.R. war. But, public relations isn’t everything. There is another side.

    Yes, there is another side (there are several, in fact–this place is a Rubik’s cube of sides), but for the US, I think our stance should boil down to one point only: what is in it for us? It is really the only sensible foreign policy a nation can have, and in that respect, Israel’s loss of the P.R. war is indeed everything.

    Israel is not, of course, one of the 50 United States of America. While we as private citizens have our personal loves and loyalties–and obviously many people in the US care deeply about the welfares of Israel and the Palestinian people–these personal loyaties should not necessarily become part of our nation’s foreign policy unless they are also in our national interest. This is not an anti-Israeli or anti-Palestinian statement, it is a pro-American statement. When crafting our nation’s foreign policy, we are American citizens only and should be looking out for American interests.

    And any argument in favor of aiding a people who are under threat, while well deserving of sympathy, is unfortunately not always reason enough for a foreign policy decision. There are plenty of examples of downtrodden people that we never came to the aid of.

    The only reason I can see for the US to be involved is to promote regional peace and stability, and to this end it really does not matter to the US which side is more downtrodden or deserving. While as human beings we can empathize with anyone suffering in the region, the crafting of our foreign policy must be based on rational calculations which involve the very real perceptions you mentioned. The perception in the Arab world is that Israel has gone too far and US policy must take this into account no matter how unfair it seems to Israelis.

  • Peggy Sue

    Rob, I found your essay reasoned and reasonable. We could only hope that the major players in this mess could approach the ongoing confrontation in the same vein. I have absolutely no sympathy for Hamas, Hezbollah or any of these terrorist groups. But no one wants to hear about or see children being killed or maimed. Then again, Israel has a perfect right to defend herself against those whose main aim is to destroy the Jewish state [whether the Palestinians are good shots or not].

    No easy answers, for sure.

    I was stunned by Nazrallah’s recent call to the Egyptian population and military to compel their government to reopen the Rafah Crossing, coming periously close to calling for armed insurrection in Egypt. Reckless and stupid. I don’t for a minute believe that Hezbollah has “honorable” intentions. All these groups will use vulnerable populations to reach their political ends. They’ve stated it often: they love death more than we love life.

    Insane!

    But I agree, the answer–if there is one–is certainly complex. And things in this world are never black or white. But I firmly agree with this:

    “Hamas and other groups like it can only be defeated by their Arab brothers.”

    Until the moderate Arab states decide to rein these fanatics in, this bloodletting will continue ad infinitum.

  • Ellen D

    As far as U.S. interests go – it would be different if there were more democratically elected U.S. allies around there. We don’t have a lot of choice.

  • Ron

    Israel going after Hamas is but a step in the peace process required by the US in concert with the Saudi peace plan. You can’t simply look at the action taken against Hamas as an event out of context because there’s a much bigger picture that’s being ignored by nearly everyone.

    Only 31% of Democrats support Israel in its effort while 62% of Republicans do. These numbers are quite ironic because the “peace loving” Dems are acting against their own intent but so are the hawkish Repubs. The peace process would lead to a much weaker Israel. By unseating Hamas from power in Gaza, the peace process, AKA the Saudi peace plan, could move forward which would divest Israel of all remaining acquired territories. The US under Obama could well distance itself from Israel and cut off or reduce aid once the new state of Palestine is created.

    If you’re pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, as a lot on the left are, you should be anti-Hamas and pro-Israel in this war.

    Personally, I’m a very pro-Israel secular Jew who wants to see Hamas crushed but it may not be in Israel’s long term interest to go along with the Saudi peace plan. Maintaining the status quo might be better in the long run.

  • Strawberrybitch

    I’ve never understood why you would even accept support from the rightwing religious Neocons…you do realize that on the day of the “RAPTURE” if all the Jewish folk in Israel don’t accept Jesus as their personal savior, they’ll be slaughtered just like the Muslims. Their support for you is the enemy of my enemy kind of thing. There was a disgusting video game that was developed a few years back that shows what is in store for those who refuse to be saved. I can’t remember the name. Perhaps YouTube still has some video.

  • Hot Librarian

    My favourite Jewish statement .

    Icelandic Pm to Israeli Pm 1995 = “Welcome. You are the Chosen people & we are the Frozen people”.

    Other than that what the f***k is it all about?

    Its The Chosens & the rest of us. But not beleiving in God makes ,for me ,just a land grab.

  • elise

    Rob, it’s difficult to compose a counter argument to your post given the fact, as you stated, you have family in Israel. I have no family there or in Gaza, but the conflict effects us all.

    There was so much outrage over the Russian invasion of Georgia simply because it was Goliath vs David. Was Georgia the provocateur? Most of the world condemned Russia since it seemed to be an unreasonable response to a smaller, weaker country, although I believe the US was attempting to provide military aid.

    Every time an issue is presented to the UN Security Council condemning Israel, the US uses it’s power of veto. Israel is the strongest country in the Middle East and it’s greatest ally, the US, is the most powerful country in the world. Our country has supported Israel with military aid for decades.

    The questions arise when we are left to wonder if the situation is driving our foreign policy to the determent of our country. It makes it difficult to find a peaceful solution if we aren’t willing to pressure both sides of the conflict and our government is really the only one which can make a difference.

    Most Americans have been strong supporters and until recently have not questioned our policy. The war with Lebanon was a failure, not simply because Israel failed to accomplish it’s goal, but many of us were shocked by the videos of large bombs going off in Beirut knowing there were civilians living there who were not Hezbollah.

    Reports of civilians killed by cluster bombs after the end of the conflict were, for the most part ignored by the press here. Aside from the deaths, many lost their homes and parts of Beirut were leveled.

    No one is asking Israel to “turn the other cheek”, however, I would like some examples of their efforts to reach out to their other Arab neighbors to effect a diplomatic solution. The country’s right to exist has been recognized by Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia and their neighbors to the east have, publicly at least, tried to remain neutral, but the anger is spreading.

    Why don’t you take a moment to think about Palestine? Israel has slowly been expanding the settlements on the West Bank, bulldozing the homes of people who have lived there for centuries and now, some have crossed into Egypt for food and medical care because they are walls separating them from the help they need. Israel is a rich and powerful country while the Palestinians are living in poverty so why was the West so surprised they elected a government which promised them a better life and dignity? Are Germany, France, Britain, China, Russia friends to the Palestinians? They have no friends, not simply because of Hamas, but because they have nothing to offer. No oil, no geographic advantage to the west. They are just an impediment to Israeli expansion. They weren’t even responsible for the war in which they lost their land.

    I don’t know how I would feel if I have family in Israel so I’m not sure I have a right to challenge you and it is a difficult situation and you offered no ideas as to the solution. I would be interested in knowing what you think is fair to both sides in a permanent way if Hamas were not a factor.

  • Hot Librarian

    Im off to get my DNA analysed so I might go back to wherever my ancestors were in 3,000 BC & claim me some land.

  • WildChild

    Larry was correct in his earlier threads concerning Israels heavy handed tactics. Israel can station artillery batteries with counter battery radars strategically around gaza and respond with counter battery fire whenever a rocket is launched, but they don’t. Instead they wait for large quantities of rockets to be fired and then play the victim card. Except how can the stronger power be the victim? Israel has the means to respond to the threat each and every time with deadly accuracy. They have the power to turn each rocket firing into a suicide mission, but they don’t. It’s almost is if in playing the victim they are drawing out the time period in which they can justify their policy of concentrating the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas while Israel continues to expand into the west bank.

    I wonder if Israel has a final solution planned for the day when the Palestinians can be compressed no further and lash out that one last time?

  • heather

    This may sound overly simplistic, but it reminds me of my children. I have one boy who is made out of pipe cleaners and chewing gum and another who has always been naturally very muscular and strong. The spongebob-like boy has a habit of running to me (usually with some sort of large welt beginning to manifest) screaming of the terror that his brother has just inflicted upon him with a well placed fist. If I unravel the story (which I am sometimes not inclined to do), I usually find out that pipe cleaner-boy was the initial aggressor. He has never perfected the closed fist and is often off in his aim, but is also most likely to lose it in a verbal battle and resort to fists. His objection usually centers around the fact that he didn’t hit his brother half as hard as he was hit in return. While I don’t condone violence amongst my children, I do think that it is unreasonable for anyone to believe that once they start a fight, the responder should pull punches in order to keep the fight fair. When attacked, you use the strength that you possess in order to make the aggressor understand the futility and stupidity of his actions. I’m a tough love kind of mom and expect my kids to learn these lessons naturally so that when they go out into the world on their own, they won’t expect everything to be “fair”. The world, on the other hand, has gone squishy and expects that the naturally stronger should tie one hand behind their back in order to make everything fair. If the Palestinians could, wouldn’t they inflict much more damage than they do? It seems to me that the Israeli’s are being faulted for the competence of their response.

  • Peggy Sue

    I think that’s a very good analogy, Heather. And, of course, you’re right–things are never fair and equal in the real world despite the efforts to pretend otherwise.

  • It’s Not Me

    Hamas doesn’t WANT peace. They never will. Hamas and most Arabs in the region want nothing but the land that is Israel and have vowed to fight until the day they get it. They will not stop until the blood of every Jewish man, woman and child flows through the streets (and that seems to be quite acceptable to many people who support Hamas). Read the Hamas Charter and they lay out precisely what their goals are.

    Golda Meir captured it decades ago with her observation that has become a truism: there will not be peace until they love their children more than they hate our children.

    Here’s the Hamas Charter (It’s a VERY long read): http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

  • workingclass artist

    Yes…It’s not me…Folks need to WAKE UP!
    Jihad is a WAR on all things Western…Jews at the TOP of the list but the LIST is all of the corrupted WEST….nuff said…It is the one unifying principle that the Saudis and the Persians exploit…imho…

  • It’s Not Me

    The RW neocons are “using” Israel and Israel is “using” the RW neocons…as per my son’s Israeli born and raised Hebrew teacher. I just HAD to ask her opinion on this because everyone knows WHY the RW wackos support Israel and I never understood WHY Israel didn’t see it and accepted their support. She just laughed at me and said, “Of course Israel knows about the Rapture and the religious right’s reasons for supporting Israel.” She said the Israelis think they’re naive because the Israelis KNOW the Rapture is bunk. “Someday, We shall see who’s correct, won’t we?”

    Israel is just accepting help/support from whomever is willing to give it. They know what’s up with the RW religious wackos. They’re using each other.

  • It’s Not Me

    That’s perfect, heather. That’s exactly what the world expects of Israel.

    My dad use to make my siblings and I sit in the middle of a room and hug and kiss for an hour after a fight. That was PURE TORTURE! There’s nothing worse than having to sit down and hug and kiss someone you were just having a hair pulling fist fight with, but it did stop the fights….because no one wanted to have to sit down and hug and kiss each other again! LOL.

    Maybe the world community should make Olmert and the Hamas leaders sit down and hug and kiss each other for a few hours/days/weeks/months (until peace happens) :) . Like that would ever happen? Hamas would rather blow themselves up before EVER hugging or kissing a DIRTY JEW. That’s how deep the hatred runs with Hamas.

  • WildChild

    The problem that jumps to mind with your analogy is that in the case of Israel and the Palestinians, the stronger sibling isn’t allowing the weaker sibling free run of the house. That makes the stronger sibling the antagonist every time.

  • elise

    Heather, I have one son and he is tall and muscular. When he was a child, I always to him to walk away from a fight if he could.

    The guilt of Hamas is undeniable,but it’s difficult to accept this response by Israel as due to Hamas rockets given the timing. We have always supported Israel in my family, but it’s better for all of us to be objective.

    We have lost the trust and admiration of much of the world because of our militaristic actions which gives us less credibility and influence in bringing about a peaceful solution in the ME. How can we find a solution fair to both parties, Israel and Palestine, if we don’t consider a Palestinian State?

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