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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1106732</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather, I have one son and he is tall and muscular. When he was a child, I always to him to walk away from a fight if he could.

The guilt of Hamas is undeniable,but it&#039;s difficult to accept this response by Israel as due to Hamas rockets given the timing. We have always supported Israel in my family, but it&#039;s better for all of us to be objective.

We have lost the trust and admiration of much of the world because of our militaristic actions which gives us less credibility and influence in bringing about a peaceful solution in the ME. How can we find a solution fair to both parties, Israel and Palestine, if we don&#039;t consider a Palestinian State?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, I have one son and he is tall and muscular. When he was a child, I always to him to walk away from a fight if he could.</p>
<p>The guilt of Hamas is undeniable,but it&#8217;s difficult to accept this response by Israel as due to Hamas rockets given the timing. We have always supported Israel in my family, but it&#8217;s better for all of us to be objective.</p>
<p>We have lost the trust and admiration of much of the world because of our militaristic actions which gives us less credibility and influence in bringing about a peaceful solution in the ME. How can we find a solution fair to both parties, Israel and Palestine, if we don&#8217;t consider a Palestinian State?</p>
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		<title>By: WildChild</title>
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		<dc:creator>WildChild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem that jumps to mind with your analogy is that in the case of Israel and the Palestinians, the stronger sibling isn&#039;t allowing the weaker sibling free run of the house.  That makes the stronger sibling the antagonist every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem that jumps to mind with your analogy is that in the case of Israel and the Palestinians, the stronger sibling isn&#8217;t allowing the weaker sibling free run of the house.  That makes the stronger sibling the antagonist every time.</p>
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		<title>By: It's Not Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>It's Not Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s perfect, heather. That&#039;s exactly what the world expects of Israel.

My dad use to make my siblings and I sit in the middle of a room and hug and kiss for an hour after a fight. That was PURE TORTURE! There&#039;s nothing worse than having to sit down and hug and kiss someone you were just having a hair pulling fist fight with, but it did stop the fights....because no one wanted to have to sit down and hug and kiss each other again! LOL. 

Maybe the world community should make Olmert and the Hamas leaders sit down and hug and kiss each other for a few hours/days/weeks/months (until peace happens) :). Like that would ever happen? Hamas would rather blow themselves up before EVER hugging or kissing a &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;DIRTY JEW.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; That&#039;s how deep the hatred runs with Hamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s perfect, heather. That&#8217;s exactly what the world expects of Israel.</p>
<p>My dad use to make my siblings and I sit in the middle of a room and hug and kiss for an hour after a fight. That was PURE TORTURE! There&#8217;s nothing worse than having to sit down and hug and kiss someone you were just having a hair pulling fist fight with, but it did stop the fights&#8230;.because no one wanted to have to sit down and hug and kiss each other again! LOL. </p>
<p>Maybe the world community should make Olmert and the Hamas leaders sit down and hug and kiss each other for a few hours/days/weeks/months (until peace happens) <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Like that would ever happen? Hamas would rather blow themselves up before EVER hugging or kissing a <strong><em>DIRTY JEW.</em></strong> That&#8217;s how deep the hatred runs with Hamas.</p>
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		<title>By: It's Not Me</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1104138</link>
		<dc:creator>It's Not Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RW neocons are &quot;using&quot; Israel and Israel is &quot;using&quot; the RW neocons...as per my son&#039;s Israeli born and raised Hebrew teacher. I just HAD to ask her opinion on this because everyone knows WHY the RW wackos support Israel and I never understood WHY Israel didn&#039;t see it and accepted their support. She just laughed at me and said, &quot;Of course Israel knows about the Rapture and the religious right&#039;s reasons for supporting Israel.&quot; She said the Israelis think they&#039;re naive because the Israelis KNOW the Rapture is bunk. &quot;Someday, We shall see who&#039;s correct, won&#039;t we?&quot; 

Israel is just accepting help/support from whomever is willing to give it. They know what&#039;s up with the RW religious wackos. They&#039;re using each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RW neocons are &#8220;using&#8221; Israel and Israel is &#8220;using&#8221; the RW neocons&#8230;as per my son&#8217;s Israeli born and raised Hebrew teacher. I just HAD to ask her opinion on this because everyone knows WHY the RW wackos support Israel and I never understood WHY Israel didn&#8217;t see it and accepted their support. She just laughed at me and said, &#8220;Of course Israel knows about the Rapture and the religious right&#8217;s reasons for supporting Israel.&#8221; She said the Israelis think they&#8217;re naive because the Israelis KNOW the Rapture is bunk. &#8220;Someday, We shall see who&#8217;s correct, won&#8217;t we?&#8221; </p>
<p>Israel is just accepting help/support from whomever is willing to give it. They know what&#8217;s up with the RW religious wackos. They&#8217;re using each other.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1104134</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes...It&#039;s not me...Folks need to WAKE UP!
Jihad is a WAR on all things Western...Jews at the TOP of the list but the LIST is all of the corrupted WEST....nuff said...It is the one unifying principle that the Saudis and the Persians exploit...imho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;It&#8217;s not me&#8230;Folks need to WAKE UP!<br />
Jihad is a WAR on all things Western&#8230;Jews at the TOP of the list but the LIST is all of the corrupted WEST&#8230;.nuff said&#8230;It is the one unifying principle that the Saudis and the Persians exploit&#8230;imho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: It's Not Me</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1104130</link>
		<dc:creator>It's Not Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamas doesn&#039;t WANT peace. They never will. Hamas and most Arabs in the region want nothing but the land that is Israel and have vowed to fight until the day they get it. They will not stop until the blood of every Jewish man, woman and child flows through the streets (and that seems to be quite acceptable to many people who support Hamas). Read the Hamas Charter and they lay out precisely what their goals are. 

Golda Meir captured it decades ago with her observation that has become a truism: &lt;strong&gt;there will not be peace until they love their children more than they hate our children.&lt;/strong&gt;

Here&#039;s the Hamas Charter (It&#039;s a VERY long read): http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamas doesn&#8217;t WANT peace. They never will. Hamas and most Arabs in the region want nothing but the land that is Israel and have vowed to fight until the day they get it. They will not stop until the blood of every Jewish man, woman and child flows through the streets (and that seems to be quite acceptable to many people who support Hamas). Read the Hamas Charter and they lay out precisely what their goals are. </p>
<p>Golda Meir captured it decades ago with her observation that has become a truism: <strong>there will not be peace until they love their children more than they hate our children.</strong></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the Hamas Charter (It&#8217;s a VERY long read): <a href="http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1104076</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s a very good analogy, Heather.  And, of course, you&#039;re right--things are never fair and equal in the real world despite the efforts to pretend otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s a very good analogy, Heather.  And, of course, you&#8217;re right&#8211;things are never fair and equal in the real world despite the efforts to pretend otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may sound overly simplistic, but it reminds me of my children.  I have one boy who is made out of pipe cleaners and chewing gum and another who has always been naturally very muscular and strong.  The spongebob-like boy has a habit of running to me (usually with some sort of large welt beginning to manifest) screaming of the terror that his brother has just inflicted upon him with a well placed fist.  If I unravel the story (which I am sometimes not inclined to do), I usually find out that pipe cleaner-boy was the initial aggressor.  He has never perfected the closed fist and is often off in his aim, but is also most likely to lose it in a verbal battle and resort to fists.  His objection usually centers around the fact that he didn&#039;t hit his brother half as hard as he was hit in return.  While I don&#039;t condone violence amongst my children, I do think that it is unreasonable for anyone to believe that once they start a fight, the responder should pull punches in order to keep the fight fair.  When attacked, you use the strength that you possess in order to make the aggressor understand the futility and stupidity of his actions.  I&#039;m a tough love kind of mom and expect my kids to learn these lessons naturally so that when they go out into the world on their own, they won&#039;t expect everything to be &quot;fair&quot;.  The world, on the other hand, has gone squishy and expects that the naturally stronger should tie one hand behind their back in order to make everything fair. If the Palestinians could, wouldn&#039;t they inflict much more damage than they do?  It seems to me that the Israeli&#039;s are being faulted for the competence of their response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound overly simplistic, but it reminds me of my children.  I have one boy who is made out of pipe cleaners and chewing gum and another who has always been naturally very muscular and strong.  The spongebob-like boy has a habit of running to me (usually with some sort of large welt beginning to manifest) screaming of the terror that his brother has just inflicted upon him with a well placed fist.  If I unravel the story (which I am sometimes not inclined to do), I usually find out that pipe cleaner-boy was the initial aggressor.  He has never perfected the closed fist and is often off in his aim, but is also most likely to lose it in a verbal battle and resort to fists.  His objection usually centers around the fact that he didn&#8217;t hit his brother half as hard as he was hit in return.  While I don&#8217;t condone violence amongst my children, I do think that it is unreasonable for anyone to believe that once they start a fight, the responder should pull punches in order to keep the fight fair.  When attacked, you use the strength that you possess in order to make the aggressor understand the futility and stupidity of his actions.  I&#8217;m a tough love kind of mom and expect my kids to learn these lessons naturally so that when they go out into the world on their own, they won&#8217;t expect everything to be &#8220;fair&#8221;.  The world, on the other hand, has gone squishy and expects that the naturally stronger should tie one hand behind their back in order to make everything fair. If the Palestinians could, wouldn&#8217;t they inflict much more damage than they do?  It seems to me that the Israeli&#8217;s are being faulted for the competence of their response.</p>
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		<title>By: WildChild</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1103929</link>
		<dc:creator>WildChild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry was correct in his earlier threads concerning Israels heavy handed tactics.  Israel can station artillery batteries with counter battery radars strategically around gaza and respond with counter battery fire whenever a rocket is launched, but they don&#039;t.  Instead they wait for large quantities of rockets to be fired and then play the victim card.  Except how can the stronger power be the victim?  Israel has the means to respond to the threat each and every time with deadly accuracy.  They have the power to turn each rocket firing into a suicide mission, but they don&#039;t.  It&#039;s almost is if in playing the victim they are drawing out the time period in which they can justify their policy of concentrating the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas while Israel continues to expand into the west bank.  

I wonder if Israel has a final solution planned for the day when the Palestinians can be compressed no further and lash out that one last time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry was correct in his earlier threads concerning Israels heavy handed tactics.  Israel can station artillery batteries with counter battery radars strategically around gaza and respond with counter battery fire whenever a rocket is launched, but they don&#8217;t.  Instead they wait for large quantities of rockets to be fired and then play the victim card.  Except how can the stronger power be the victim?  Israel has the means to respond to the threat each and every time with deadly accuracy.  They have the power to turn each rocket firing into a suicide mission, but they don&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s almost is if in playing the victim they are drawing out the time period in which they can justify their policy of concentrating the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas while Israel continues to expand into the west bank.  </p>
<p>I wonder if Israel has a final solution planned for the day when the Palestinians can be compressed no further and lash out that one last time?</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im off to get my DNA analysed so I might go back to wherever my ancestors were in 3,000 BC &amp; claim me some land.</description>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, it&#039;s difficult to compose a counter argument to your post given the fact, as you stated, you have family in Israel. I have no family there or in Gaza, but the conflict effects us all. 

There was so much outrage over the Russian invasion of Georgia simply because it was Goliath vs David. Was Georgia the provocateur? Most of the world condemned Russia since it seemed to be an unreasonable response to a smaller, weaker country, although I believe the US was attempting to provide military aid.

Every time an issue is presented to the UN Security Council condemning Israel, the US uses it&#039;s power of veto. Israel is the strongest country in the Middle East and it&#039;s greatest ally, the US, is the most powerful country in the world. Our country has supported Israel with military aid for decades.

The questions arise when we are left to wonder if the situation is driving our foreign policy to the determent of our country. It makes it difficult to find a peaceful solution if we aren&#039;t willing to pressure both sides of the conflict and our government is really the only one which can make a difference.

Most Americans have been strong supporters and until recently have not questioned our policy. The war with Lebanon was a failure, not simply because Israel failed to accomplish it&#039;s goal, but many of us were shocked by the videos of large bombs going off in Beirut knowing there were civilians living there who were not Hezbollah.

Reports of civilians killed by cluster bombs after the end of the conflict were, for the most part ignored by the press here. Aside from the deaths, many lost their homes and parts of Beirut were leveled. 

No one is asking Israel to &quot;turn the other cheek&quot;, however, I would like some examples of their efforts to reach out to their other Arab neighbors to effect a diplomatic solution. The country&#039;s right to exist has been recognized by Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia and their neighbors to the east have, publicly at least, tried to remain neutral, but the anger is spreading.

Why don&#039;t you take a moment to think about Palestine? Israel has slowly been expanding the settlements on the West Bank, bulldozing the homes of people who have lived there for centuries and now, some have crossed into Egypt for food and medical care because they are walls separating them from the help they need. Israel is a rich and powerful country while the Palestinians are living in poverty so why was the West so surprised they elected a government which promised them a better life and dignity? Are Germany, France, Britain, China, Russia friends to the Palestinians? They have no friends, not simply because of Hamas, but because they have nothing to offer. No oil, no geographic advantage to the west. They are just an impediment to Israeli expansion. They weren&#039;t even responsible for the war in which they lost their land.

I don&#039;t know how I would feel if I have family in Israel so I&#039;m not sure I have a right to challenge you and it is a difficult situation and you offered no ideas as to the solution. I would be interested in knowing what you think is fair to both sides in a permanent way if Hamas were not a factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, it&#8217;s difficult to compose a counter argument to your post given the fact, as you stated, you have family in Israel. I have no family there or in Gaza, but the conflict effects us all. </p>
<p>There was so much outrage over the Russian invasion of Georgia simply because it was Goliath vs David. Was Georgia the provocateur? Most of the world condemned Russia since it seemed to be an unreasonable response to a smaller, weaker country, although I believe the US was attempting to provide military aid.</p>
<p>Every time an issue is presented to the UN Security Council condemning Israel, the US uses it&#8217;s power of veto. Israel is the strongest country in the Middle East and it&#8217;s greatest ally, the US, is the most powerful country in the world. Our country has supported Israel with military aid for decades.</p>
<p>The questions arise when we are left to wonder if the situation is driving our foreign policy to the determent of our country. It makes it difficult to find a peaceful solution if we aren&#8217;t willing to pressure both sides of the conflict and our government is really the only one which can make a difference.</p>
<p>Most Americans have been strong supporters and until recently have not questioned our policy. The war with Lebanon was a failure, not simply because Israel failed to accomplish it&#8217;s goal, but many of us were shocked by the videos of large bombs going off in Beirut knowing there were civilians living there who were not Hezbollah.</p>
<p>Reports of civilians killed by cluster bombs after the end of the conflict were, for the most part ignored by the press here. Aside from the deaths, many lost their homes and parts of Beirut were leveled. </p>
<p>No one is asking Israel to &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221;, however, I would like some examples of their efforts to reach out to their other Arab neighbors to effect a diplomatic solution. The country&#8217;s right to exist has been recognized by Jordan and Egypt. Saudi Arabia and their neighbors to the east have, publicly at least, tried to remain neutral, but the anger is spreading.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you take a moment to think about Palestine? Israel has slowly been expanding the settlements on the West Bank, bulldozing the homes of people who have lived there for centuries and now, some have crossed into Egypt for food and medical care because they are walls separating them from the help they need. Israel is a rich and powerful country while the Palestinians are living in poverty so why was the West so surprised they elected a government which promised them a better life and dignity? Are Germany, France, Britain, China, Russia friends to the Palestinians? They have no friends, not simply because of Hamas, but because they have nothing to offer. No oil, no geographic advantage to the west. They are just an impediment to Israeli expansion. They weren&#8217;t even responsible for the war in which they lost their land.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how I would feel if I have family in Israel so I&#8217;m not sure I have a right to challenge you and it is a difficult situation and you offered no ideas as to the solution. I would be interested in knowing what you think is fair to both sides in a permanent way if Hamas were not a factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favourite Jewish statement .

Icelandic  Pm to Israeli Pm 1995 = &quot;Welcome. You are the Chosen people &amp; we are the Frozen people&quot;.

Other than that what the f***k is it all about? 


Its The Chosens &amp; the rest of us. But not beleiving in God makes ,for me ,just a land grab.</description>
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<p>Icelandic  Pm to Israeli Pm 1995 = &#8220;Welcome. You are the Chosen people &amp; we are the Frozen people&#8221;.</p>
<p>Other than that what the f***k is it all about? </p>
<p>Its The Chosens &amp; the rest of us. But not beleiving in God makes ,for me ,just a land grab.</p>
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		<title>By: Strawberrybitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawberrybitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never understood why you would even accept support from the rightwing religious Neocons...you do realize that on the day of the &quot;RAPTURE&quot; if all the Jewish folk in Israel don&#039;t accept Jesus as their personal savior, they&#039;ll be slaughtered just like the Muslims.  Their support for you is the enemy of my enemy kind of thing.  There was a disgusting video game that was developed a few years back that shows what is in store for those who refuse to be saved.  I can&#039;t remember the name.  Perhaps YouTube still has some video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never understood why you would even accept support from the rightwing religious Neocons&#8230;you do realize that on the day of the &#8220;RAPTURE&#8221; if all the Jewish folk in Israel don&#8217;t accept Jesus as their personal savior, they&#8217;ll be slaughtered just like the Muslims.  Their support for you is the enemy of my enemy kind of thing.  There was a disgusting video game that was developed a few years back that shows what is in store for those who refuse to be saved.  I can&#8217;t remember the name.  Perhaps YouTube still has some video.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel going after Hamas is but a step in the peace process required by the US in concert with the Saudi peace plan. You can&#039;t simply look at the action taken against Hamas as an event out of context because there&#039;s a much bigger picture that&#039;s being ignored by nearly everyone.

Only 31% of Democrats support Israel in its effort while 62% of Republicans do. These numbers are quite ironic because the &quot;peace loving&quot; Dems are acting against their own intent but so are the hawkish Repubs. The peace process would lead to a much weaker Israel. By unseating Hamas from power in Gaza, the peace process, AKA the Saudi peace plan, could move forward which would divest Israel of all remaining acquired territories. The US under Obama could well distance itself from Israel and cut off or reduce aid once the new state of Palestine is created.

If you&#039;re pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, as a lot on the left are, you should be anti-Hamas and pro-Israel in this war. 

Personally, I&#039;m a very pro-Israel secular Jew who wants to see Hamas crushed but it may not be in Israel&#039;s long term interest to go along with the Saudi peace plan. Maintaining the status quo might be better in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel going after Hamas is but a step in the peace process required by the US in concert with the Saudi peace plan. You can&#8217;t simply look at the action taken against Hamas as an event out of context because there&#8217;s a much bigger picture that&#8217;s being ignored by nearly everyone.</p>
<p>Only 31% of Democrats support Israel in its effort while 62% of Republicans do. These numbers are quite ironic because the &#8220;peace loving&#8221; Dems are acting against their own intent but so are the hawkish Repubs. The peace process would lead to a much weaker Israel. By unseating Hamas from power in Gaza, the peace process, AKA the Saudi peace plan, could move forward which would divest Israel of all remaining acquired territories. The US under Obama could well distance itself from Israel and cut off or reduce aid once the new state of Palestine is created.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, as a lot on the left are, you should be anti-Hamas and pro-Israel in this war. </p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m a very pro-Israel secular Jew who wants to see Hamas crushed but it may not be in Israel&#8217;s long term interest to go along with the Saudi peace plan. Maintaining the status quo might be better in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen D</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9777/gaza-a-view-from-the-other-side/#comment-1103804</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as U.S. interests go - it would be different if there were more democratically elected U.S. allies around there. We don&#039;t have a lot of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as U.S. interests go &#8211; it would be different if there were more democratically elected U.S. allies around there. We don&#8217;t have a lot of choice.</p>
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