Comments on: Remember this during 2009: Daily Kossacks ALL backed John Edwards, long before they went Obama

By: Ellen

Ellen — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:28:13 +0000

I may not have been banned from this site (although many of my posts were deleted soon after posting) but have certainly attacked and called names and told not to come back.
And why would I lie about this? Your comments certainly give reason to your name (and I am not referring to this comment – you have been one of the most offensive of no quarters ‘ posters).

By: Strawberrybitch

Strawberrybitch — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:32:17 +0000

Um, you are on probably the FIRST Pro Hillary site and you haven’t been banned. Liar.

By: Ellen

Ellen — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:27:49 +0000

I have been banned from every pro-Hillary site – if not outright (my posts were not posted), then absolutely vilified for anything favorable said about Obama. I have gone through Daily Kos and the postings of people such as Alegre, Uppity woman, etc. and frankly, I saw very little in the way of negative comments towards these people.
You Obama haters keep saying you are banned on obama sites – no different than what the Hillary sites did and continue to do. Whereas I see that daily kos and others are far more favorable to Hillary supporters and pro-Hillary comments now – willing to get over the primary antagonism. Hillary supporters? Not giving an inch.

By: Not Your sweetie

Not Your sweetie — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:52:21 +0000

Edwards’s vote for war was hardly identical to Hillary’s. Edwards co-sponsored the bill, didn’t just vote for it. And never explained the reasons.

By: Obamanos

Obamanos — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:15:02 +0000

Sigh…so typical of NQ.

Claude says that the problems Daily Kos had with Susan and Larry might have been avoided if they adhered to a higher standard of credibility than they applied to the “whitey tape” rumor.

And HC responds by calling Claude a troll and changing the subject.

NQ will never recover as long as this head-in-the-sand defensiveness persists.

The people who now dominate this blog can’t deal with problems like the “whitey tape” fiasco. Larry told nonsensical, contradictory stories about who his sources were and what was supposedly on the tape, and that was hugely damaging to his credibility and that of NQ in general.

As long as Larry and Susan and petulant name-callers like HC continue to reject the honest, reflective thinking called for by the “whitey tape” bust, NQ will remain a laughingstock for many reasonable people.

By: Obamanos

Obamanos — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:22:17 +0000

Comment by American Girl in Italy | 2009-01-02 11:49:36

why are you ragging on NQ for Winston’s comment, and not going after Winston? You are perfectly capable of replying to Winston, just as we are.

I think the answers to your questions were evident in my original post, but I’ll be more specific.

1. I did going after Winston. I called him a knuckle-dragging troglodyte racist. What you read was indeed me “replying to Winston.”

2. I’m ragging on NQ because, as I pointed out, I’d seen a case where a moderator deliberately erased criticism of a racist post — and left the racist comment untouched. It’s still there. The fact that the protected racism was directed towards Obama would seem to explain why it was acceptable to the anonymous NQ moderator who edited that thread.

This is far from a unique episode at NQ. Just yesterday, I commented on another racist message and got nothing but flack from readers. No comments from any moderators, either.

It’s a fact that former contributors (e.g. dcmediagirl) have abandoned NQ because the tone got so ugly here. Here’s what “Leslie,” another former NQ contributor, had to say six months ago (over at boomantribune) about racism at NQ:

While I was an NQ contributor, Larry Johnson repeatedly disowned racist remarks and banned anyone who made them. His blog is a nightmare now.

http://www.boomantribune.com/comments/2008/6/1/235757/2325/1

Outside this blog, NQ has a widespread reputation as a crazy, nasty place. That’s not just my opinion — that’s a fair observation of the comments anyone with a browser can read. This former NQ reader is typical:

But to say the things that SusanHu did about a candidate’s spouse… stuff that makes no sense at all except if she were recruiting for a white-supremacist organization…

http://www.boomantribune.com/comments/2008/6/1/235757/2325/37

Susanhu, in case you didn’t know, is NQ’s SusanUnPC. She wrote the article at the top of this thread. She appears to be the main administrator here. Do you see any comment from her about Winston calling McKinney a monkey?

By: sceptical

sceptical — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:19:02 +0000

No you don’t – you just fell for an urban legend.

By: sceptical

sceptical — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:13:19 +0000

Plains Radio is claiming it is “on it’s way from Hawaii” – the story is dubious in the extreme. Ed Hale is the same character who was about to publish the API tapes, but somehow never did. It’s always due in another 6 hours ….

By: sceptical

sceptical — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:03:32 +0000

Um… no. It’s another whitey tape, from the same people that promised you the API tape. You’ve been had …. again.

By: DanNY

DanNY — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:55:52 +0000

There are several blogs I once frequented daily including the daily kos. I pledge never to surf to any of them again after the treatment I received from the “Obama Squad” (site monitors) as well as others who frequented those blogs. One day when I did lurk back “in” it felt as though a pit developed in my stomach again and I never want to have to endure what that felt like to have walked into a vomit bin and feel trashed. I am not so inclined to pass through those vile blogs again. IMHO – I hope they all fall apart and fizzle into oblivion for being so closed minded and I can’t find the word but you all know them for who they are. They point fingers while three are pointing back at them.

By: Mort

Mort — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:04:25 +0000

I agree with you, I find the racism despicable, too.

By: FrenchNail

FrenchNail — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:01:46 +0000

I seems that the divorce record of Obama Sr and Durham has been found and mentionned a child, born in Kenya…. And that would have been stated by Obama Sr.

By: Mort

Mort — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:56:04 +0000

Tool.

ROTFLMAO.

Don’t ever change…

By: American Girl in Italy

American Girl in Italy — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:36:21 +0000

I posted this elsewhere, but will repost for your benefit:

And as far as the whitey tape goes, people love to trash Larry for that… But I know someone who was in the room, at an RNC fundraiser where the video was shown, and also heard how vile it was. I know of several different sources of people who knew of its existence, and I heard about it before I ever read it here on NQ (although I doubt I knew about it before Larry, but it was circulating before it was posted here). Also, Bob Beckel heard about it from inside sources, as did Roger Stone. I also heard from a source that the Clinton people knew about the tape.

So, people can still harp on it, but many, many people heard about it, and I know it exists. For some reason, it never got used, maybe it was edited to appear worse, whatever…but there is a tape.

That story about *why’d* vs. whitey was circulated by some blogger as an explanation on what the tape *probably* contained. It got picked up as fact.

The tapes originated with Giuliani, who, once he dropped out, turned them over to McCain’s group. They were used for fundraising purposes, but never surfaced. Larry NEVER claimed to have the tapes. Several sources were working to get their hands on the tape.

All I can figure out is that McCain refused to use the tape, much like he refused to go after Wright.

But this was not a made up rumor by Larry.

By: Claude

Claude — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:15:57 +0000

I am willing to engage in conversation on any of those topics if you have the sack to admit that the whitey tape was concocted out of whole cloth, and can exhibit enough maturity to realize that shrieking about stupid, spurious and easily debunked claims – like the white tape – might have caused reasonable people to regard you as less than credible.