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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104412</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s &quot;the list&quot; and other than Osama Bin Laden I have doubts about the remainder being Muslim. 

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s &#8220;the list&#8221; and other than Osama Bin Laden I have doubts about the remainder being Muslim. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Asif Sheriff</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104382</link>
		<dc:creator>Asif Sheriff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were in their place I would say the following to myself:

I dont blame the passengers.  It is only my kind that has created this impression of folks that are dressed and talk like me.

I would scratch my head and ask myself if my family gave others ammunition to label us the way they did?

I would try to rate myself and my families reaction to the incidence.  What could we have done better?  Did we act with patience or react with fire?

I would ask the clergyman in my local mosque.  Mr. Mulana XYZ, what steps are we taking as a community to avoid such stereotypes.  I dont mean educating the passengers types about my kind....But about my kind trying to fit in the US of A?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were in their place I would say the following to myself:</p>
<p>I dont blame the passengers.  It is only my kind that has created this impression of folks that are dressed and talk like me.</p>
<p>I would scratch my head and ask myself if my family gave others ammunition to label us the way they did?</p>
<p>I would try to rate myself and my families reaction to the incidence.  What could we have done better?  Did we act with patience or react with fire?</p>
<p>I would ask the clergyman in my local mosque.  Mr. Mulana XYZ, what steps are we taking as a community to avoid such stereotypes.  I dont mean educating the passengers types about my kind&#8230;.But about my kind trying to fit in the US of A?</p>
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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104359</link>
		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a good egg Susan.  You have a big &#039;ole heart/a big &#039;ole brain/a big &#039;ole work ethic.     

I think that several of us comment and post to share experiences and knowledge and occasionally to &quot;vent&quot; because a post is provocative (well done!).

So, sometimes it feels like you got smacked in the face when someone comes back with an over the top or hateful/juvenile response or any response that isn&#039;t a kudo. 

Some people complain to you about it and some people don&#039;t.

Now back on point:

Is this isolated incident really a fair  indictment of our nation?  (Eg.: Haven&#039;t airlines treated people of all races like shit for years?)  

Do you recall your refusing to let people use PEBO&#039;s middle name?  Do you think that it&#039;s possible that as overly sensitive one way as these folks who complained at the airport were - maybe you are overly sensitive the other way?  Of course not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a good egg Susan.  You have a big &#8216;ole heart/a big &#8216;ole brain/a big &#8216;ole work ethic.     </p>
<p>I think that several of us comment and post to share experiences and knowledge and occasionally to &#8220;vent&#8221; because a post is provocative (well done!).</p>
<p>So, sometimes it feels like you got smacked in the face when someone comes back with an over the top or hateful/juvenile response or any response that isn&#8217;t a kudo. </p>
<p>Some people complain to you about it and some people don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Now back on point:</p>
<p>Is this isolated incident really a fair  indictment of our nation?  (Eg.: Haven&#8217;t airlines treated people of all races like shit for years?)  </p>
<p>Do you recall your refusing to let people use PEBO&#8217;s middle name?  Do you think that it&#8217;s possible that as overly sensitive one way as these folks who complained at the airport were &#8211; maybe you are overly sensitive the other way?  Of course not!</p>
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		<title>By: sayitisntso</title>
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		<dc:creator>sayitisntso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for this airlines in &#039;07 and they have some of the dumbest and meanest workers from the ticket agents to the ramp people to the pilots.  The company is hurting and an assistant manager told me off the record (before Thanksgiving this year) that  they are winding down and not competetive.  Translation:  They will go out of business soon or be bought out.  (This incident doesn&#039;t help.)  I would never fly this airlines, ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for this airlines in &#8217;07 and they have some of the dumbest and meanest workers from the ticket agents to the ramp people to the pilots.  The company is hurting and an assistant manager told me off the record (before Thanksgiving this year) that  they are winding down and not competetive.  Translation:  They will go out of business soon or be bought out.  (This incident doesn&#8217;t help.)  I would never fly this airlines, ever!</p>
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		<title>By: Fran</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104327</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are articulate. They did not even complain about being singled out. Only that they could not continue on their trip after the FBI interceded on their behalf. It was like, at that point, what more do they have to do?

WCA - No one is stopping you from speaking! But I do not blame them for calling you on what you&#039;ve said here. Sometimes I agree with you, but in this case, I think you response is really ignorant sounding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are articulate. They did not even complain about being singled out. Only that they could not continue on their trip after the FBI interceded on their behalf. It was like, at that point, what more do they have to do?</p>
<p>WCA &#8211; No one is stopping you from speaking! But I do not blame them for calling you on what you&#8217;ve said here. Sometimes I agree with you, but in this case, I think you response is really ignorant sounding.</p>
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		<title>By: The Obligatory Muslims removed from Plane Posting &#124; Political Byline</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Obligatory Muslims removed from Plane Posting &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miss H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not an attorney.  But I think a privately owned aircarrier should be allowed to  say who can fly on their airplane.  Do you think the federal government should control all American businesses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not an attorney.  But I think a privately owned aircarrier should be allowed to  say who can fly on their airplane.  Do you think the federal government should control all American businesses?</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104301</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if i had not received so many e-mails about your comments in other threads -- those e-mails have come from both other readers and writers -- I might have not been as harsh. Several people have been upset by your comments in other threads.  That said, I apologize for being so blunt.  But those other complaints were fresh in my mind as I wrote what i did above.  Again, though, I am sorry if you found my bluntness objectionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if i had not received so many e-mails about your comments in other threads &#8212; those e-mails have come from both other readers and writers &#8212; I might have not been as harsh. Several people have been upset by your comments in other threads.  That said, I apologize for being so blunt.  But those other complaints were fresh in my mind as I wrote what i did above.  Again, though, I am sorry if you found my bluntness objectionable.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point. If they had been more self-aware, they would have realized that such conversation might have been misinterpreted.

I will look for the other video that i saw, but which wasn&#039;t available when i posted this.

In that video, the man -- the tax attorney -- speaks at length. It is obvious that the guy is a BRAIN.  His vocabulary alone is wonderful.  It could be that they are all so intellectually inclined that they were jabbering amongst themselves utterly unaware that what they were saying might affect casual listeners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point. If they had been more self-aware, they would have realized that such conversation might have been misinterpreted.</p>
<p>I will look for the other video that i saw, but which wasn&#8217;t available when i posted this.</p>
<p>In that video, the man &#8212; the tax attorney &#8212; speaks at length. It is obvious that the guy is a BRAIN.  His vocabulary alone is wonderful.  It could be that they are all so intellectually inclined that they were jabbering amongst themselves utterly unaware that what they were saying might affect casual listeners.</p>
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		<title>By: trixta</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Weren&#039;t/aren&#039;t the Kennedys sympathetic toward the IRA?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Weren&#8217;t/aren&#8217;t the Kennedys sympathetic toward the IRA?</strong></p>
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		<title>By: stodghie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104268</link>
		<dc:creator>stodghie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can also be so politically correct that you border on downright silly too. the family along with other americans have been pulled off flights also. they should have been put on the next possible plane with apoligies after being cleared. enough already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can also be so politically correct that you border on downright silly too. the family along with other americans have been pulled off flights also. they should have been put on the next possible plane with apoligies after being cleared. enough already!</p>
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		<title>By: JulieD</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/9856/what-has-become-of-our-nation/#comment-1104266</link>
		<dc:creator>JulieD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How sad.  

During a discussion of discrimination you&#039;re threatening workingclass artist&#039;s being able to voice an opinion.

I would have expected better from you Susan.

BTW:  Some of us had loved ones who were killed on 9/11 and never noticed this Muslim family  giving press conferences about how wrong that was.  

Does anyone know if there is a Muslim airline they could use which might make them feel more comfortable in the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sad.  </p>
<p>During a discussion of discrimination you&#8217;re threatening workingclass artist&#8217;s being able to voice an opinion.</p>
<p>I would have expected better from you Susan.</p>
<p>BTW:  Some of us had loved ones who were killed on 9/11 and never noticed this Muslim family  giving press conferences about how wrong that was.  </p>
<p>Does anyone know if there is a Muslim airline they could use which might make them feel more comfortable in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes no sense at all. The problem is that common sense, which ought to be employed in these kinds of situations, has been replaced by the same kind of herd mentality and group-think that is behind the anointing of our saviour Barack 0bama.

&quot;Like it or not, these are the time we live in,&quot; someone posted above. &quot;Better safe than sorry.&quot; These are slogans that pass for thinking, just like &quot;Change we can believe in.&quot;

In the times I&#039;m living in, I can&#039;t recall the last time a group of Muslims with their children who were overheard talking of safety on an airplane went on to commit a terrorist act. When, for that matter, referring to another comment, did an 80 year old granny? Yet we are supposed to feel good about the TSA because they harassed her just as much as Ahmed Mohammed from Dubai? 

What this incident illustrates above all is the willingness of people to let others do their &quot;thinking&quot; for them. Which suits the forces of control just fine. How many lives could be saved  across this country with the investment in public health programs of a fraction of the amount now allocated for &quot;security?&quot; How many fatalities do we accept every year in other modes of transportation as the cost of &quot;the times we live in?&quot; Why not zero tolerance for highway fatalities, too? Standing up to terrorists is one thing. Diminishing our capacities as thinking human beings is another. We are steadily becoming an irrational society. And that means that the fanatics are winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes no sense at all. The problem is that common sense, which ought to be employed in these kinds of situations, has been replaced by the same kind of herd mentality and group-think that is behind the anointing of our saviour Barack 0bama.</p>
<p>&#8220;Like it or not, these are the time we live in,&#8221; someone posted above. &#8220;Better safe than sorry.&#8221; These are slogans that pass for thinking, just like &#8220;Change we can believe in.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the times I&#8217;m living in, I can&#8217;t recall the last time a group of Muslims with their children who were overheard talking of safety on an airplane went on to commit a terrorist act. When, for that matter, referring to another comment, did an 80 year old granny? Yet we are supposed to feel good about the TSA because they harassed her just as much as Ahmed Mohammed from Dubai? </p>
<p>What this incident illustrates above all is the willingness of people to let others do their &#8220;thinking&#8221; for them. Which suits the forces of control just fine. How many lives could be saved  across this country with the investment in public health programs of a fraction of the amount now allocated for &#8220;security?&#8221; How many fatalities do we accept every year in other modes of transportation as the cost of &#8220;the times we live in?&#8221; Why not zero tolerance for highway fatalities, too? Standing up to terrorists is one thing. Diminishing our capacities as thinking human beings is another. We are steadily becoming an irrational society. And that means that the fanatics are winning.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could happen...Best be careful of the beaches as they are immodest...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could happen&#8230;Best be careful of the beaches as they are immodest&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: HC</title>
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		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL yes it would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL yes it would.</p>
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