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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus the fact people outside of Chicago couldn&#039;t care less about which &#039;tribe&#039; they belong to, it is corrupt!  Even in 1960 they voted grave yards.  I for one will not spend energy on these long pieces that ramble on and on with no focus and incorrect facts.  Thanks, but no thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus the fact people outside of Chicago couldn&#8217;t care less about which &#8216;tribe&#8217; they belong to, it is corrupt!  Even in 1960 they voted grave yards.  I for one will not spend energy on these long pieces that ramble on and on with no focus and incorrect facts.  Thanks, but no thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James(San Jose) - As I read through your dissertation you made a few good points, but as you accused some, I don&#039;t think you paid close enough attention yourself.  It sounds like you even drank the kool-aid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James(San Jose) &#8211; As I read through your dissertation you made a few good points, but as you accused some, I don&#8217;t think you paid close enough attention yourself.  It sounds like you even drank the kool-aid.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...but he could buy off the media and DNC.&quot;

He didn&#039;t need to buy-off the media.  They were willing &#039;prostitutes&#039; even for free because he was a new story.  Hillary and the others were yesterday&#039;s news they said.  

He definitely did not have to buy off the DNC.  They chose him - not vice versa.  They insisted he run for president after he first said he wasn&#039;t &#039;ready&#039; (I say not qualified) to run for president at that point.  Neither is he qualified to BE POTUS on January 20th.  

Not to worry, though.  As in his campaign, all the people around him will run the government and he comes out smelling like a rose and claiming the credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;but he could buy off the media and DNC.&#8221;</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t need to buy-off the media.  They were willing &#8216;prostitutes&#8217; even for free because he was a new story.  Hillary and the others were yesterday&#8217;s news they said.  </p>
<p>He definitely did not have to buy off the DNC.  They chose him &#8211; not vice versa.  They insisted he run for president after he first said he wasn&#8217;t &#8216;ready&#8217; (I say not qualified) to run for president at that point.  Neither is he qualified to BE POTUS on January 20th.  </p>
<p>Not to worry, though.  As in his campaign, all the people around him will run the government and he comes out smelling like a rose and claiming the credit.</p>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....why I&#039;m so happy to see Richardson go down.  Did him a lot of good to sell out Hillary, no?&quot;

And as someone said today, &quot;all that butt-kissing for naught&quot;.  Karma??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.why I&#8217;m so happy to see Richardson go down.  Did him a lot of good to sell out Hillary, no?&#8221;</p>
<p>And as someone said today, &#8220;all that butt-kissing for naught&#8221;.  Karma??</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You just posted a gem, ACPD.</description>
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		<title>By: Katmoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katmoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, and agree, ACPD. Thank-You!</description>
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		<title>By: FranSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FranSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no, UBM!  The &quot;quarters&quot; you speak of were before Nancy Pelosi&#039;s money machine company located in her congressional district and secured BY her for BO, had honed it skills sufficiently to raise Obama&#039;s campaign money.  

Thanks to Mama Nancy&#039;s advice, his 2007 fundraising money was used to pay-off Superdelegates early, contributing an average of $5,000 to their campaigns and in some cases $11,000 (say the campaign finance reports) to insure their support. Then Pelosi&#039;s Silicone Valley fund-raising company used the high-dollar as well as the low-dollar social networking sites to do the rest.  Those Obama campaign offices in the different states were the cover-up operations his campaign proudly points to as if they were responsible for the millions.   What a joke.    

At the end he was amassing $50 million+ a month.  Obama had NOTHING to do with it other than he was the &#039;change&#039; candidate.  None of this was his idea.  He was clueless as to how to run a campaign since he had never raised over a $100,000 for any of his previous three campaigns.  

No need to worry, though.  Pelosi and Dean were fiercely working behind the scenes for him from at least 2006 on, if not soon after his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech.  Pelosi and Dean were determined to win at any cost and make sure Hillary was defeated.  So, stop making us gag over your comments that he was the superior candidate.  He was NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no, UBM!  The &#8220;quarters&#8221; you speak of were before Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s money machine company located in her congressional district and secured BY her for BO, had honed it skills sufficiently to raise Obama&#8217;s campaign money.  </p>
<p>Thanks to Mama Nancy&#8217;s advice, his 2007 fundraising money was used to pay-off Superdelegates early, contributing an average of $5,000 to their campaigns and in some cases $11,000 (say the campaign finance reports) to insure their support. Then Pelosi&#8217;s Silicone Valley fund-raising company used the high-dollar as well as the low-dollar social networking sites to do the rest.  Those Obama campaign offices in the different states were the cover-up operations his campaign proudly points to as if they were responsible for the millions.   What a joke.    </p>
<p>At the end he was amassing $50 million+ a month.  Obama had NOTHING to do with it other than he was the &#8216;change&#8217; candidate.  None of this was his idea.  He was clueless as to how to run a campaign since he had never raised over a $100,000 for any of his previous three campaigns.  </p>
<p>No need to worry, though.  Pelosi and Dean were fiercely working behind the scenes for him from at least 2006 on, if not soon after his 2004 Democratic National Convention speech.  Pelosi and Dean were determined to win at any cost and make sure Hillary was defeated.  So, stop making us gag over your comments that he was the superior candidate.  He was NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: ACPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Obama supporters are so &quot;touchy&quot; about our positions against him, because they know he is nothing but a fraud.  Even his speeches are written by others and come straight out of the traditions of black preachers and con men. (I&#039;m not equating the two--for the record.) Obama bought the election.  He was given most of his money, not by average guys, but by Hollywood and big business.  The notion that he could rise to political power in an environment that is so completely corrupt as Chicago without playing their game according to the rules of the party machine, is naive and ignorant.  I suspect that most of his defenders have never been in power and don&#039;t know how the process works.  Such intellectual laziness and lack of critical thinking is why our country is in such trouble.  Obama isn&#039;t going to save this country--no one can, if people don&#039;t grow up, start thinking for themselves and stop looking for a good time and someone to take care of them....No way, Jose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama supporters are so &#8220;touchy&#8221; about our positions against him, because they know he is nothing but a fraud.  Even his speeches are written by others and come straight out of the traditions of black preachers and con men. (I&#8217;m not equating the two&#8211;for the record.) Obama bought the election.  He was given most of his money, not by average guys, but by Hollywood and big business.  The notion that he could rise to political power in an environment that is so completely corrupt as Chicago without playing their game according to the rules of the party machine, is naive and ignorant.  I suspect that most of his defenders have never been in power and don&#8217;t know how the process works.  Such intellectual laziness and lack of critical thinking is why our country is in such trouble.  Obama isn&#8217;t going to save this country&#8211;no one can, if people don&#8217;t grow up, start thinking for themselves and stop looking for a good time and someone to take care of them&#8230;.No way, Jose!</p>
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		<title>By: ritamary</title>
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		<dc:creator>ritamary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are totally nuts if you think the South Side is in any way different from the rest of Chicago. Where did you get this idea? The whole bunch of them are corrupt. The South Side is where the Daley family comes from. Bridgeport is the name of the neighborhood. Ever hear of it?

And Michelle was an employee of Mayor Daley. And Valerie Jarrett hired Michelle to work for Mayor Daley. Michelle&#039;s father was a precinct captain and worked for the Department of Streets and Sanitation. Stick to worrying about San Jose. You don&#039;t know anything about Chicago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are totally nuts if you think the South Side is in any way different from the rest of Chicago. Where did you get this idea? The whole bunch of them are corrupt. The South Side is where the Daley family comes from. Bridgeport is the name of the neighborhood. Ever hear of it?</p>
<p>And Michelle was an employee of Mayor Daley. And Valerie Jarrett hired Michelle to work for Mayor Daley. Michelle&#8217;s father was a precinct captain and worked for the Department of Streets and Sanitation. Stick to worrying about San Jose. You don&#8217;t know anything about Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: ACPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just money; it&#039;s also psychology that bought BO the presidency.  A basic principle in marketing is you have to engage the person you are targeting. BO had the money and he had the pitch (first black to be president)that engaged 25% of our population.  The rest of the population was completely turned off by him.  That&#039;s why 52% of the Republicans who voted in the primaries didn&#039;t show up.  They were turned off by all the BO hype and they were sexist enough to buy into anything stupid BO&#039;s team put out about HRC and Palin. (The media, of course, bought into this and enabled BO throughout the process.) 

The Democratic primaries are too decentralized and too easily manipulated by local groups.  That&#039;s where the corruption came into it. Just a few corrupt caucuses, super-delegates and get-out-the vote groups in key places completely tipped the primaries away from HRC. 

Once BO had the nomination, it was just a question of playing up the country&#039;s frustration with Bush and sliming McCain/Palin with anti-Bush muck.  The media helped this process by buying into BO&#039;s celebrity appeal and by being completely mindless and lazy in their reporting of everything, but especially the economy. (I am not a Bush supporter, but even I know that our economic problems are largely the result of self-serving Democratic legislation, not Bush&#039;s tax cuts.)

The real problem with BO and his supporters is that they don&#039;t realize that 75% of the American population do not support him.  Some of us have completely turned him off and tuned him out.  But many of us are watching and some of us are actually doing our homework to keep him and his sleazy backers accountable. 

I always saw a strong similarity between Bush and BO in personality.  I now feel in time the similarities between BO and Nixon in governance will become stronger.  BO has bought the presidency on many levels, but he hasn&#039;t bought the American people. He thinks, like Nixon, the rules do not apply to him. (We don&#039;t even know if he is qualified to be president; he won&#039;t offer any of the documentation on his birth, schooling and personal life. He and his persona are complete marketing fabrications. Note: factcheck.com is just another branch of the BO industry.  They claim to be impartial, but are far from it. e.g. The birth certificate they looked at was not the certified &quot;long form,&quot; but merely a certificate of live birth which is neither proof nor complete, even if accurate.)   He is wrong and in time that will become clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just money; it&#8217;s also psychology that bought BO the presidency.  A basic principle in marketing is you have to engage the person you are targeting. BO had the money and he had the pitch (first black to be president)that engaged 25% of our population.  The rest of the population was completely turned off by him.  That&#8217;s why 52% of the Republicans who voted in the primaries didn&#8217;t show up.  They were turned off by all the BO hype and they were sexist enough to buy into anything stupid BO&#8217;s team put out about HRC and Palin. (The media, of course, bought into this and enabled BO throughout the process.) </p>
<p>The Democratic primaries are too decentralized and too easily manipulated by local groups.  That&#8217;s where the corruption came into it. Just a few corrupt caucuses, super-delegates and get-out-the vote groups in key places completely tipped the primaries away from HRC. </p>
<p>Once BO had the nomination, it was just a question of playing up the country&#8217;s frustration with Bush and sliming McCain/Palin with anti-Bush muck.  The media helped this process by buying into BO&#8217;s celebrity appeal and by being completely mindless and lazy in their reporting of everything, but especially the economy. (I am not a Bush supporter, but even I know that our economic problems are largely the result of self-serving Democratic legislation, not Bush&#8217;s tax cuts.)</p>
<p>The real problem with BO and his supporters is that they don&#8217;t realize that 75% of the American population do not support him.  Some of us have completely turned him off and tuned him out.  But many of us are watching and some of us are actually doing our homework to keep him and his sleazy backers accountable. </p>
<p>I always saw a strong similarity between Bush and BO in personality.  I now feel in time the similarities between BO and Nixon in governance will become stronger.  BO has bought the presidency on many levels, but he hasn&#8217;t bought the American people. He thinks, like Nixon, the rules do not apply to him. (We don&#8217;t even know if he is qualified to be president; he won&#8217;t offer any of the documentation on his birth, schooling and personal life. He and his persona are complete marketing fabrications. Note: factcheck.com is just another branch of the BO industry.  They claim to be impartial, but are far from it. e.g. The birth certificate they looked at was not the certified &#8220;long form,&#8221; but merely a certificate of live birth which is neither proof nor complete, even if accurate.)   He is wrong and in time that will become clear.</p>
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		<title>By: James (San Jose)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James (San Jose)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will some of you for the love of god get a grip of reality?

Obama is not a part of some conspiracy to loot the federal coffers for the benefit of the possible 2016 Chicago Olympics.

Blago and Obama belong to two different Chicago organizations.  Blago is part of the old Daley-Cook County machine. Obama belonged to Harold Washington&#039;s crew. It is like claiming the Hatfields and the McCoys are essentially the same because they all lived on the Tug Fork River. Blago is Cisero, Obama is South Side. Two totally different political realities that share only a party label. Very much like Colin Powell and Allan Keys.

If money were the only consideration in this election cycle dear readers then we would be looking at President elect Mitt Romney. Romney spent a ton of his own money trying to get the nomination and still lost.

If the Supers were so easily bought off why did it take Obama so long to purchase them? He is a very smart man, he could have saved the time, expense and bother of loosing in PA and gone shopping for Supers.  The Supers were Hilary&#039;s to loose and loose them she did.  Many of the Supers were only Supers because of the Clintons; they owed Bill and Hill big time.  They defected to Obama because they were smart politicians and saw that Obama had the more legitimate claim to the nomination.  He had the stronger organization, the more disciplined ground game, the better messaging.  They defected because there was no way in hell the party could have given Hilary the nomination after her narrow win in Indiana are her wipe-out in North Carolina. 

Far too many people here have thrown around baseless accusations of corruption and people being bought out.  Far too many have made baseless accusations of voter intimidation and other violations of law.  Do you have any real evidence of foreign money being pumped into the Obama campaign?  You do realize these are the same bullshit charges that Republicans used against Bill Clinton way back in 1992? Remember Bill&#039;s election being purchased with Chinese money?  

Obama is going to our next president, accept it.  He is going to spend at least the next four years cleaning up the epic fuck-up that is the Bush-Cheney administration.

Part of that clean up will be the most humongous WPA-type spending plan ever devised. This has nothing to do with Obama lining the pockets of some fictitious Chicago cabal and everything to do with the engines of capitalism freezing up.  Government will have no choice but to intervene because private equity and private investment has evaporated.  We are spending $700 billion because the alternative is a repeat of the Hoover administration. The only good news here is that with a little luck and whole lot of pressure from we the people that money will be spent rebuilding our  dilapidated infrastructure.  

No politician is pure as the driven snow, not Barack, not Hilary.  But no politician is as flat out evil as some portray Obama as.  This cartoon caricature that you display on the pages of NQ has no basis in reality.  This cardboard cut out that you toss mud at is in no shape or form a reflection of the man.  This poisonous over-focused rage is deeply unhealthy.  This rancid bitterness is unwarranted. In the end it is pointless.  

Obama did not create our present political climate where money is king. To blame him for his success is to miss the point. The more you obsess on one man or group of men, the more you miss the big picture. It is not about a Wall Street Cabal or a Chicago Cabal, it is about retaking our government. 

Here&#039;s the final news flash, Obama is not going to help us retake our government, Clinton is not going to help us either.  McCain is not on board and Plain will be of no help. Forget Pelosi and definitely forget Boehner they will be of no assistance.  The only way we get our government back is if WE pay for it.  We pay 100% of the election expense, we completely fund each and every candidate, we even match the self donations.  We take money out of the equation and we do it in a NON-PARTISAN way. It will cost us a whole lot less than the alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will some of you for the love of god get a grip of reality?</p>
<p>Obama is not a part of some conspiracy to loot the federal coffers for the benefit of the possible 2016 Chicago Olympics.</p>
<p>Blago and Obama belong to two different Chicago organizations.  Blago is part of the old Daley-Cook County machine. Obama belonged to Harold Washington&#8217;s crew. It is like claiming the Hatfields and the McCoys are essentially the same because they all lived on the Tug Fork River. Blago is Cisero, Obama is South Side. Two totally different political realities that share only a party label. Very much like Colin Powell and Allan Keys.</p>
<p>If money were the only consideration in this election cycle dear readers then we would be looking at President elect Mitt Romney. Romney spent a ton of his own money trying to get the nomination and still lost.</p>
<p>If the Supers were so easily bought off why did it take Obama so long to purchase them? He is a very smart man, he could have saved the time, expense and bother of loosing in PA and gone shopping for Supers.  The Supers were Hilary&#8217;s to loose and loose them she did.  Many of the Supers were only Supers because of the Clintons; they owed Bill and Hill big time.  They defected to Obama because they were smart politicians and saw that Obama had the more legitimate claim to the nomination.  He had the stronger organization, the more disciplined ground game, the better messaging.  They defected because there was no way in hell the party could have given Hilary the nomination after her narrow win in Indiana are her wipe-out in North Carolina. </p>
<p>Far too many people here have thrown around baseless accusations of corruption and people being bought out.  Far too many have made baseless accusations of voter intimidation and other violations of law.  Do you have any real evidence of foreign money being pumped into the Obama campaign?  You do realize these are the same bullshit charges that Republicans used against Bill Clinton way back in 1992? Remember Bill&#8217;s election being purchased with Chinese money?  </p>
<p>Obama is going to our next president, accept it.  He is going to spend at least the next four years cleaning up the epic fuck-up that is the Bush-Cheney administration.</p>
<p>Part of that clean up will be the most humongous WPA-type spending plan ever devised. This has nothing to do with Obama lining the pockets of some fictitious Chicago cabal and everything to do with the engines of capitalism freezing up.  Government will have no choice but to intervene because private equity and private investment has evaporated.  We are spending $700 billion because the alternative is a repeat of the Hoover administration. The only good news here is that with a little luck and whole lot of pressure from we the people that money will be spent rebuilding our  dilapidated infrastructure.  </p>
<p>No politician is pure as the driven snow, not Barack, not Hilary.  But no politician is as flat out evil as some portray Obama as.  This cartoon caricature that you display on the pages of NQ has no basis in reality.  This cardboard cut out that you toss mud at is in no shape or form a reflection of the man.  This poisonous over-focused rage is deeply unhealthy.  This rancid bitterness is unwarranted. In the end it is pointless.  </p>
<p>Obama did not create our present political climate where money is king. To blame him for his success is to miss the point. The more you obsess on one man or group of men, the more you miss the big picture. It is not about a Wall Street Cabal or a Chicago Cabal, it is about retaking our government. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the final news flash, Obama is not going to help us retake our government, Clinton is not going to help us either.  McCain is not on board and Plain will be of no help. Forget Pelosi and definitely forget Boehner they will be of no assistance.  The only way we get our government back is if WE pay for it.  We pay 100% of the election expense, we completely fund each and every candidate, we even match the self donations.  We take money out of the equation and we do it in a NON-PARTISAN way. It will cost us a whole lot less than the alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: PCPatrol</title>
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		<dc:creator>PCPatrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James from San Jose. You&#039;re still drinking that Kool-Aid. It fried your brain. Detoxing will start on Jan 20th when Bush III resumes his hold on America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James from San Jose. You&#8217;re still drinking that Kool-Aid. It fried your brain. Detoxing will start on Jan 20th when Bush III resumes his hold on America.</p>
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		<title>By: PCPatrol</title>
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		<dc:creator>PCPatrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James from San Jose, You still drinking that Kool-Aid. It fried your brain. Detoxing will start on Jan 20th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James from San Jose, You still drinking that Kool-Aid. It fried your brain. Detoxing will start on Jan 20th.</p>
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		<title>By: James (San Jose)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James (San Jose)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In politics money talks and bullshit walks.  The big difference in 2008 is that the Democratic Party finally gained an advantage over the Republicans.  If you had been paying any attention you would have noted that in 2006 Howard Dean and his happy band of internet pirates managed to gain parity with the Elephants.

Now what was the game changer in 2006?  That&#039;s right, six years of disastrous Bush Cheney rule. People finally understood that the only way they were going to rid themselves of the Republicans was by giving some of there hard earned dollars over to the Donkey Party.

As for Saint John and his reform bill it was mainly hokum from the start.  McCain&#039;s support of his eponymous legislation had much more to do with erasing the stain of his far too chummy relations with S&amp;L hucksters than with any real concern for good governance. In 2008 he was forced to make a virtue out of necessity and take public financing because his hilariously inept campaign was no good at raising money.  By 2008 the Republican brand was so toxic that one would have a better chance in raising money for the spread of flesh-eating bacteria than for the G.O.P. 

I have even less sympathy for our lady of the tastefully appointed pants suite.  In the early going she had an enormous advantage in money. She blew through a mountain of cash and still failed to kill off the Obama insurgency.  Lacking the strategic depth Obama enjoyed via his internet savvy fund raising efforts she got buried alive in latter part of the campaign. 

While we are on the subject let&#039;s take a look at the NetRoots and the definition of &quot;small donors&quot; It is quite easy for a small fish contributor to become a &quot;large contributor&quot; by giving small contributions of perhaps $75.00 every two weeks or $125 a month.  Over the space of the 20 month election cycle that is $2,500.00.  Defining only those contributions that total less than $200.00 over an election cycle is bogus.  All a person has to do to become a big fish by this definition is contribute more than $10.00 a month over 20 months. $10.00 a week over the 80 week campaign schedule raises $800.00 for PEBO. Multiply that out by millions of small donors or just one million small donors and you have more than PEBO raised for his run. One million small donors giving $10.00 a week for 20 months equals $800,000,000 dollars. It&#039;s called basic math; look into it.

You guys really need to stop your whining and look into the real reasons Obama won. It had nothing to do with being &quot;unfair&quot; or corrupt.  It had everything with running a super-disciplined campaign that found a path to victory. In the primaries it found a way to better translate votes into delegates. It had better message control and better damage control than the Clinton machine.  

Good people of NQ you just have to accept that PEBO is exactly what the electorate wanted in 2008.  They wanted a fresh new face from outside of Washington.  The complaint that Obama is inexperienced is totally beside the point. If the voters really wanted experience they would have voted for Mr. Resume- Bill Richardson or for Joe Biden.  The voters wanted wet behind the ears and they got wet behind the ears.  

The voters also voted for PEBO&#039;s cool demeanor.  Neither the Clintons nor McCain understood how PEBO&#039;s bland, unruffled, and downright professorial personality killed their &quot;be afraid of the untested black man&quot; message. More than anything else it was PEBO&#039;s rock steady demeanor that won him the presidency.  It is that same calm, cool, collected demeanor, that step-by-step caution, that personal conservatism that is so reassuring to the American public.  Voters are not nearly as foolish as you may think; in 2008 they voted for the polar opposite of George W. Bush.  Bush was a loud,brash, hyperkinetic, white Texan.  Obama is a cool, quite urbane black man from Chicago.  Bush was an uncontemplative ideologue who made decisions with his gut.  Obama is a cerebral pragmatist who likes to get all the opinions in the room and then makes a decision based on careful consideration.

Back to main point. Yes public financing as it is presently constructed is dead.  Realistically it was always less than the eye beheld.  The Republican Party was never really serious about changing the ground rules because they had such a huge advantage in fund raising. Now with the NetRoots vaporizing that advantage the Republican proposal is to let them regain the advantage by popping the donation cap. What a stupid idea. Why would the Democratic Party or any other sane organization agree to that? Now that the Democrats finally have an advantage in the money game they are going to surrender it out of the goodness of their own hearts? In what parallel universe is this supposed to happen?

No, the only real solution is 100% public financing of all elections.  If we want our public officers only answerable to the public we are going to have to pony up the cash to make it happen. For less than 1% of the total Federal budget of 2.7 trillion dollars we could totally end pay to play and not only clean up D.C. but every state and locality also. The only thing we truly lack is the will to reclaim our government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In politics money talks and bullshit walks.  The big difference in 2008 is that the Democratic Party finally gained an advantage over the Republicans.  If you had been paying any attention you would have noted that in 2006 Howard Dean and his happy band of internet pirates managed to gain parity with the Elephants.</p>
<p>Now what was the game changer in 2006?  That&#8217;s right, six years of disastrous Bush Cheney rule. People finally understood that the only way they were going to rid themselves of the Republicans was by giving some of there hard earned dollars over to the Donkey Party.</p>
<p>As for Saint John and his reform bill it was mainly hokum from the start.  McCain&#8217;s support of his eponymous legislation had much more to do with erasing the stain of his far too chummy relations with S&amp;L hucksters than with any real concern for good governance. In 2008 he was forced to make a virtue out of necessity and take public financing because his hilariously inept campaign was no good at raising money.  By 2008 the Republican brand was so toxic that one would have a better chance in raising money for the spread of flesh-eating bacteria than for the G.O.P. </p>
<p>I have even less sympathy for our lady of the tastefully appointed pants suite.  In the early going she had an enormous advantage in money. She blew through a mountain of cash and still failed to kill off the Obama insurgency.  Lacking the strategic depth Obama enjoyed via his internet savvy fund raising efforts she got buried alive in latter part of the campaign. </p>
<p>While we are on the subject let&#8217;s take a look at the NetRoots and the definition of &#8220;small donors&#8221; It is quite easy for a small fish contributor to become a &#8220;large contributor&#8221; by giving small contributions of perhaps $75.00 every two weeks or $125 a month.  Over the space of the 20 month election cycle that is $2,500.00.  Defining only those contributions that total less than $200.00 over an election cycle is bogus.  All a person has to do to become a big fish by this definition is contribute more than $10.00 a month over 20 months. $10.00 a week over the 80 week campaign schedule raises $800.00 for PEBO. Multiply that out by millions of small donors or just one million small donors and you have more than PEBO raised for his run. One million small donors giving $10.00 a week for 20 months equals $800,000,000 dollars. It&#8217;s called basic math; look into it.</p>
<p>You guys really need to stop your whining and look into the real reasons Obama won. It had nothing to do with being &#8220;unfair&#8221; or corrupt.  It had everything with running a super-disciplined campaign that found a path to victory. In the primaries it found a way to better translate votes into delegates. It had better message control and better damage control than the Clinton machine.  </p>
<p>Good people of NQ you just have to accept that PEBO is exactly what the electorate wanted in 2008.  They wanted a fresh new face from outside of Washington.  The complaint that Obama is inexperienced is totally beside the point. If the voters really wanted experience they would have voted for Mr. Resume- Bill Richardson or for Joe Biden.  The voters wanted wet behind the ears and they got wet behind the ears.  </p>
<p>The voters also voted for PEBO&#8217;s cool demeanor.  Neither the Clintons nor McCain understood how PEBO&#8217;s bland, unruffled, and downright professorial personality killed their &#8220;be afraid of the untested black man&#8221; message. More than anything else it was PEBO&#8217;s rock steady demeanor that won him the presidency.  It is that same calm, cool, collected demeanor, that step-by-step caution, that personal conservatism that is so reassuring to the American public.  Voters are not nearly as foolish as you may think; in 2008 they voted for the polar opposite of George W. Bush.  Bush was a loud,brash, hyperkinetic, white Texan.  Obama is a cool, quite urbane black man from Chicago.  Bush was an uncontemplative ideologue who made decisions with his gut.  Obama is a cerebral pragmatist who likes to get all the opinions in the room and then makes a decision based on careful consideration.</p>
<p>Back to main point. Yes public financing as it is presently constructed is dead.  Realistically it was always less than the eye beheld.  The Republican Party was never really serious about changing the ground rules because they had such a huge advantage in fund raising. Now with the NetRoots vaporizing that advantage the Republican proposal is to let them regain the advantage by popping the donation cap. What a stupid idea. Why would the Democratic Party or any other sane organization agree to that? Now that the Democrats finally have an advantage in the money game they are going to surrender it out of the goodness of their own hearts? In what parallel universe is this supposed to happen?</p>
<p>No, the only real solution is 100% public financing of all elections.  If we want our public officers only answerable to the public we are going to have to pony up the cash to make it happen. For less than 1% of the total Federal budget of 2.7 trillion dollars we could totally end pay to play and not only clean up D.C. but every state and locality also. The only thing we truly lack is the will to reclaim our government.</p>
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		<title>By: Undercover Black Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Undercover Black Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Please stop trying to pretend that Hillary had anywhere near the money that Obama did...&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, ye ceaseless spinners... ye of such short memories... ye sorest of sore losers.

Remember 2007? The year leading up to the primaries... wherein tens of millions of dollars were raised by various candidates?

Hillary outraised Obama in the third quarter of 2007 ($27 million to $20 million). And Hillary outraised Obama in the &lt;em&gt;fourth&lt;/em&gt; quarter of 2007 ($27 million to $23.5 million).

The money tide turned after Obama cleaned Hillary’s clock in Iowa. And why &lt;em&gt;wouldn’t&lt;/em&gt; the money tide turn? Obama was showing himself to be the stronger candidate, running a better campaign than Hillary&#039;s.

So, Ani, spin yourself into the ground pratting on about the sinister import of Obama outspending Hillary. He outspent her because he &lt;em&gt;outraised&lt;/em&gt; her. He outraised her because he was the superior candidate.

Which, indeed, was proven in November when Obama steamrolled McCain.

This is the way politics has always worked, people. It’s the way politics is &lt;em&gt;supposed&lt;/em&gt; to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Please stop trying to pretend that Hillary had anywhere near the money that Obama did&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Oh, ye ceaseless spinners&#8230; ye of such short memories&#8230; ye sorest of sore losers.</p>
<p>Remember 2007? The year leading up to the primaries&#8230; wherein tens of millions of dollars were raised by various candidates?</p>
<p>Hillary outraised Obama in the third quarter of 2007 ($27 million to $20 million). And Hillary outraised Obama in the <em>fourth</em> quarter of 2007 ($27 million to $23.5 million).</p>
<p>The money tide turned after Obama cleaned Hillary’s clock in Iowa. And why <em>wouldn’t</em> the money tide turn? Obama was showing himself to be the stronger candidate, running a better campaign than Hillary&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So, Ani, spin yourself into the ground pratting on about the sinister import of Obama outspending Hillary. He outspent her because he <em>outraised</em> her. He outraised her because he was the superior candidate.</p>
<p>Which, indeed, was proven in November when Obama steamrolled McCain.</p>
<p>This is the way politics has always worked, people. It’s the way politics is <em>supposed</em> to work.</p>
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