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		<title>Apparently, Holder Has Other Things To Do</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/20/apparently-holder-has-other-things-to-do/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Than look at ACORN.  Yet, the hits just keep on coming.  There is another tape out from James O&#8217;Keefe of filmmaker James O&#8217;Keefe and Hannah Giles going to ACORN offices in an expose of the lengths to which ACORN workers will go to assist in setting up an underage prostitution ring.  Here [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Than look at ACORN.  Yet, the hits just keep on coming.  There is another tape out from <a href="http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/19/the-la-story-part-iv-program-for-torture-victims/">James O&#8217;Keefe</a> of filmmaker James O&#8217;Keefe and Hannah Giles going to ACORN offices in an expose of the lengths to which ACORN workers will go to assist in setting up an underage prostitution ring.  Here is the latest video released by O&#8217;Keefe:</p>
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<p>Oh, boy.  So, did I get this right, ACORN has/is working with Larry Flynt, the king of pornography???  Holy crappydoo &#8211; I am sure so many people will be happy to know that&#8217;s to whom their hard earned dollars are going.<span id="more-36467"></span></p>
<p>Thursday night, James O&#8217;Keefe, Hannah Giles, and Andrew Breitbart were on Hannity (h/t to <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/">Bronywyn&#8217;s Harbor</a> for this video), and they have some mighty interesting thins to say about who is being scrutinized, and who is not:</p>
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<p>What, they expect AG Holder to go after ACORN?  Why, because of the numerous tapes revealing their wrong doing?  They want him to listen to the whistle blowers who are willing to come forward to expose what ACORN has done &#8211; with our tax dollars, I might add?  Hey, he&#8217;s BUSY working on bringing the 9/11 Masterminds to NYC for a Civilian trial, for pete&#8217;s sake (for recent posts on this topic, go <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/16/khalid-sheikh-mohammed-will-destroy-obama/">HERE</a> and <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/11/19/miranda-rights-for-terrorist-aliens/">HERE</a>).  I mean, really &#8211; he&#8217;s got his hands full <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIYbHc7kZU">being schooled by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)</a> on the whole military tribunal thing and all.  Sheesh &#8211; what do they expect?  For Holder to do his JOB???</p>
<p>I am sure they did not expect for Jerry Brown to go after THEM rather than the ACORN employees.  Then again, given the way this Administration has been going with ACORN, maybe they should have.  I mean, isn&#8217;t that why Obama brought in Bauer, to run interference for ACORN?  Oh, no, wait &#8211; that was to &#8220;<a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/67695-rep-steve-king-bauer-was-hired-to-erase-tracks-between-obama-acorn">erase tracks between Obama and ACORN.</a>&#8221;  Well shoot, in that case, for what are Jerry Brown and Eric Holder waiting??  Ahem.</p>
<p>Well, I don&#8217;t think any of us are going to be holding our breath for THAT.  And it is so typical that the people exposing the massive problems with ACORN are the very ones being targeted by the Powers-That-Be, rather than the organization engaging in questionable activities.  </p>
<p>Our justice system really has lost its bearings when war criminals are extended rights given to American citizens. And American citizens who expose wrong doing by a group receiving Taxpayers money are targeted by those with connections to the justice system.  I guess Obama HAS brought change to America&#8230;</p>
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		<title>President Clinton Responds To A &#8220;Heckler&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/08/16/president-clinton-responds-to-a-heckler/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the Netroot Nations &#8216;09 meeting recently, there was an interaction between President Bill Clinton and a member of the audience.  During Clinton&#8217;s speech, this man stood up to ask him some questions. I mean in the middle of Clinton&#8217;s speech. Major H/T to my NQ fellow writer, pm317 for the following video.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the Netroot Nations &#8216;09 meeting recently, there was an interaction between President Bill Clinton and a member of the audience.  During Clinton&#8217;s speech, this man stood up to ask him some questions. I mean in the middle of Clinton&#8217;s speech. Major H/T to my <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net">NQ </a>fellow writer, pm317 for the following video.  Check out the man&#8217;s questions, and Clinton&#8217;s responses (as pm317 noted, President Clinton responded without aid of even ONE teleprompter):</p>
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<p>Wow, right?  </p>
<p>And the following article is by the guy who interrupted President Clinton, Lane Hudson: <span id="more-30428"></span><br />
<blockquote><a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/090814 /p55#a090814p55"><br />
Why I Interrupted Bill Clinton’s Speech at Netroots Nation</a></p>
<p>I love Bill Clinton, but we all make mistakes. Sometimes we even are forced to do things we don’t want to. That’s why I was prepared to ask Bill Clinton a tough question last night as he delivered the opening keynote address at Netroots Nation 2009.</p>
<p>But it became clear there would be no questions. As I sat in the audience thinking about how Netroots Nation is about celebrating the most open forum of discussion ever to exist, it occurred to me that we were nothing more than a captive audience being talked to. One way communication was NOT what we were there to celebrate and advance.</p>
<p>As I considered this, I turned to my friend who had helped to formulate the question I wanted to ask and said, “I might just yell something out.” I couldn’t believe I said it. I mean, blogging and speaking my mind is one thing, but to yell it out in a large public forum to a former President of the United States is quite another.</p>
<p>He talked about a new progressive era and how America has changed. Yet, there was no reflection on how that change could undo some big mistakes from his Presidency. So, at the point that he said, “We need an honest, principled debate”, I knew I had to try to stimulate the discussion. So, I stood and said, “Mr. President, will you call for a repeal of DOMA and Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell? Right now?”</p></blockquote>
<p>That was some move on his part, though I kinda wonder about his characterization of President Clinton&#8217;s speech, and if it was listed as a speech, or as a Q&#038;A.  I&#8217;m just saying.  But still, this is rather surprising:<br />
<blockquote>The immediate response shocked me at the time and still does. Those surrounding me yelled at me, booed, and told me to sit down. One elderly lady even told me to leave. While I was among the supposed most progressive audience in the country, they sought to silence someone asking a former President to speak out on behalf of repealing two laws that TOOK AWAY RIGHTS OF A MINORITY. I was shocked.</p>
<p>The immediate Twitter stream with the hashtag #NN09 was not much different. I sent out a few tweets and once people who knew me saw it was me and that I was asking Clinton to call for repeal of those two discriminatory laws, there was plenty of support. Thanks y&#8217;all! Here is a link to the video. I’ll let you judge for yourselves the reaction of the audience (I especially LOVE the “I love you Bill!!!” while he was justifying DADT.)</p>
<p>What happened that was really important, however, is that President Clinton did address the issues that I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have without my forcing the conversation. Of course, he started with a strident defense of how DOMA and DADT went down on his watch. But, I already knew that story. It was the present that I cared about, not the past.</p>
<p>Thankfully, he got around to the present. He made the strongest objection to DADT he has ever made to the best of my knowledge. He clearly called for the policy being changed. On DOMA, he spent much less time, but lamented its passage and doing a half-hearted kind of call for repeal, “I don’t like the DOMA”.</p>
<p>It’s not spectacular, but it’s progress.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Clinton&#8217;s &#8220;half-hearted kind of call for repeal&#8221; is a HELLUVA lot more than Mr. Hudson will get from President Obama.  But hey, why quibble, right?  Ahem.  Mr. Hudson continues:<br />
<blockquote>Too often, we don’t challenge people to admit mistakes. Too often we hold idols up to a place they don’t deserve. Like I said, I love Bill Clinton, but we all make mistakes and live in a less than perfect world. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for the perfect.</p>
<p>He mentioned in his speech that he admired that we bloggers could speak our mind. That’s what I did. In today’s world, a former President that has now said he supports marriage equality should find it easy to say without equivocation that he supports repealing two discriminatory laws that he felt he had no choice but to sign into law. He didn’t do that, but he needs to.</p>
<p>So, to the folks in the audience at #NN09, I just wanted to make sure he talked about two issues that mean a great deal to me and many others. (I didn’t know it at the time, but Lt. Dan Choi was in the audience.) I wouldn’t have yelled from the audience and interrupted if we weren’t being held as a captive audience.</p>
<p>But at the end of the day, I’ll take the heckler title if you all want to give it to me. The yelling at me is okay, too. Heck, I’ll even take the initial comment from the President that likened me to a health care town hall protester. None of it matters because a little bit of progress was made. President Clinton even came around later in his speech saying he was glad “that young man challenged me tonight”.</p>
<p>There is hope for our heralded former President to make those unequivocal statements that I was hoping for. Even more importantly, I hope that my fellow progressive movement activists will never sit in a captive audience and talk down to others who are working hard to advance progressive issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, okay.  Whatever.  Yes, it is good that President Clinton made it very clear that it was those the people elected who are responsible for DOMA and DADT.  He has a point, does he not?  At some point, fingers should be pointed back at the ones pointing for electing those people in the first place.  But as President Clinton also said, we are in a different time and place now, and hopefully that will help us move forward, whether our current president wants us to or not (&#8221;actions speak louder than words,&#8221; you know).</p>
<p>Yes, actions speak louder than words.  This <a href="http://www.logoonline.com/video/misc/168000/hillary-clinton-on-dont-ask-dont-tell-hillary-clinton-part-2-visible-vote-08.jhtml?id=1595149">this</a> was what Hillary Clinton said about &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell&#8221; during the campaign.  She HAS demonstrated with her actions that she stands with the GLBT community long before her campaign, and has made great strides already at the State Department, as President Clinton highlighted.  </p>
<p>And Obama?  Not so much.  As of this writing, <span style="font-weight:bold;">352</span> service members have been discharged under Obama&#8217;s watch.  And I think we all remember what Obama&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/obama-justice-department-defends-defense-of-marriage-act-that-candidate-obama-opposed.html">Justice Department thinks of same-sex</a> marriage (think incest and pedophilia), and the <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/06/eye_opener_same-sex_partners_g.html">&#8220;benefits&#8221; he gave to Federal employees</a>?  Little more than MOVING expenses. That&#8217;s about it.  </p>
<p>So my suggestion for Mr. Hudson is, perhaps instead of targeting President Clinton on these issues, you could spend your time targeting President Obama.  After all, Obama campaigned on ending both, and he has done worse than nothing &#8211; he has evaded on DADT, and insulted beyond belief on DOMA. Obama has a &#8220;Super Majority;&#8221; Clinton not so much.  Alot has changed in the past 16 years &#8211; as Clinton noted, one of the main generals opposed to DADT then is for it now.  So,why don&#8217;t you go interrupt one of Obama&#8217;s speeches, why don&#8217;t ya?</p>
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		<title>Some Anniversary Celebration</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had planned on doing something completely different today &#8211; something snarky about John Edwards and Mark Sanford (maybe a video of &#8220;Your Cheatin&#8217; Heart&#8221; or something), but then I saw this article:
&#8220;Gays, Lesbians Rally Over Bar Raid in Fort Worth&#8221;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had planned on doing something completely different today &#8211; something snarky about John Edwards and Mark Sanford (maybe a video of &#8220;Your Cheatin&#8217; Heart&#8221; or something), but then I saw this article:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;<a href="http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_11499.php">Gays, Lesbians Rally Over Bar Raid in Fort Worth</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>About 18 hours after officers with the Fort Worth Police Department and agents with the Texas Alcoholic Beverages Commission raided a Fort Worth gay bar, about 150 to 200 people gathered on the steps of the Tarrant County Courthouse in downtown Fort Worth Sunday night, June 28, to protest the raid.</p>
<p>Sources have said that seven people were arrested in the raid although witnesses at the scene said many more people were handcuffed with zip ties and taken out of the bar.</p>
<p>One man, identified by his sister as Chad Gibson, was in the intensive care unit at Fort Worth’s JPS Hospital with bleeding in his brain after officers threw him to the ground and used zip-ties to handcuff him.</p>
<p>The raid happened on the 40th anniversary of the <span style="font-weight:bold;">Stonewall rebellion</span>.</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-26964"></span><br />
Well, that is some way to mark this inauspicious occasion, isn&#8217;t it??  To basically reenact it??  What in the world prompted this, is my question, and others, as well: </p>
<blockquote><p>Joel Burns, Fort Worth’s first and only openly gay City Council member, was in Houston for the weekend, but came back to Fort Worth in time for the rally at the courthouse.</p>
<p>“We want all citizens of Texas and Fort Worth to know and be assured that the laws of ordinances of our great state and city will be applied fairly, equally and without malice or selective enforcement,” Burns said at the rally, reading from a prepared statement.</p>
<p>“We consider this to be part of ‘The Fort Worth Way’ here. As elected representatives of the city of Fort Worth, we are calling for an immediate and thorough investigation of the actions of the city of Fort Worth police and Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission in relation to the incident at the Rainbow Lounge earlier this morning,” Burns said.</p>
<p>In an e-mail communication before noon on Sunday, Burns said he had already talked with Fort Worth Police Chief Jeffrey Halstead who had promised an investigation into the matter. Burns also said at that time that Mayor Pro Tem Kathleen Hicks, who represents the district where the Rainbow Lounge is located, and City Manager Dale A. Fisseler were also already aware of the situation.</p>
<p>Noting that the rainbow Lounge raid came on the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall Rebellion, Burns said at the rally, “Unlike 40 years ago, though, the people of this community have elective representation that will make sure our government is accountable and that the rights of all its citizens are protected.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yeah, maybe so, but AFTER the fact.  How about the citizens being protected in the FIRST place instead of being beaten and handcuffed?  Just asking.  But Representative Burns is dealing on that:<br />
<blockquote>Burns said he is working with Mayor Mike Moncrief, Halstead, the Fort Worth Human Relations Commission and “our state legislative colleagues” to get “a complete and accurate accounting of what occurred.”</p>
<p>Burns added, “Rest assured that neither the people of Fort Worth, nor the city government of Fort Worth, will tolerate discrimination against any of its citizens. And known that the GLBT community is an integral part of the economic and cultural life of Fort Worth.</p>
<p>“Every Fort Worth citizen deserves to have questions around this incident answered and we are all working aggressively toward that end,” Burns said.</p>
<p>Lisa Thomas, Burns’ appointee to the city’s Human Relations Commission, also spoke at the rally, as did Todd Camp and Chuck Potter, two men who were at the bar when the raid happened and who were the primary organizers of Sunday’s two rallies.</p>
<p>Camp, referring to eyewitness accounts of the raid and to photographs that Potter took as the raid was occurring, said at the rally that “evidence demonstrates that the Fort Worth Police Department and the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commissioner over-reacted and used excessive, perhaps brutal force … .”</p>
<p>“The circumstances of the police action strongly suggest that elements of the law enforcement community selectively targeted a recently opened gay and lesbian establishment for selective enforcement and harassment.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Ya think??  Evidently!!  Even their statement is a bit fishy, if you ask me:<br />
<blockquote>Fort Worth police have not returned calls seeking comment placed by Dallas Voice beginning at 10 a.m. Sunday morning. However, Fort Worth police released a statement to several mainstream media outlets saying that Rainbow Lounge was one of three bars targted by six Fort Worth police officers and two TABC agents and a supervisor.</p>
<p>The statement said that nine people were arrested at the first two bars — the Rosedale Saloon and Cowboy Palace, both on Rosedale Avenue — and that another seven people were arrested at Rainbow Lounge.</p>
<p>The statement also said that “an extremely intoxicated patron made sexually explicit movements toward the police supervisor” and that person was arrested for public intoxication.</p>
<p>A second “intoxicated individual” was arrested for public intoxication after making “sexually explicit movements towards another officer,” and a third person assaulted a TABC agent by grabbing his groin. That man was escorted outside and arrested for public intoxication, but was released to paramedics because of his “extreme intoxication” and the fact that he was vomiting repeatedly.</p>
<p>The statement said that while some officers were outside dealing with the vomiting suspect, another officer inside requested assistance in handling an intoxicated patron who was resisting arrest, and that this person was “placed on the ground to control and apprehend him.”</p>
<p>This person was apparently Chad Gibson, who was knocked unconscious and is now hospitalized with a brain injury.</p>
<p>Eyewitnesses to that incident said Gibson, who is “maybe 160 pounds soaking wet,” did not resist arrest but that he did stumble after the first officer grabbed his arm.</p>
<p>Rainbow Lounge owner J.R. Schrock said claims that patrons made sexual advances to the officers and that one patron groped an officer were lies.</p>
<p>“The groping of the police officer — really? We’re gay, but we’re not dumb,” Schrock said to the crowd that gathered at the bar Sunday afternoon. “That is a lie, and I am appalled by it.</p>
<p>“They treat us like outcasts. But even outcasts have a time to shine, and this is it,” Schrock said, pledging that he would not be “scared away” or intimidated into closing his bar. (E-mail nash@dallasvoice.com) </p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, is it REALLY a surprise that people might be intoxicated AT A BAR???  I mean, I&#8217;m no rocket scientist, but that just doesn&#8217;t seem so far out of the realm of possibilities.</p>
<p>I reckon it&#8217;s a pretty easy defense for the excessive use of force the police used to say these guys &#8220;groped&#8221; them.  Too many people would automatically accept that as more than enough reason to handcuff them, or throw them to the ground and cause a brain injury.  An appeal to homophobia to justify one&#8217;s actions still works in this country.  Sad to say, but true.  Just look at the recent statement by Obama&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/obama-justice-department-defends-defense-of-marriage-act-that-candidate-obama-opposed.html">Justice Department on DOMA</a>.</p>
<p>But I gotta say, the whole thing seems a bit suspect, so personally, I&#8217;m not buying what they&#8217;re selling.  I am glad the GLBT community has a representative on their side in the Fort Worth area, but I have to say, it sure will be nice when the day comes that these kinds of things no longer happen at ALL.  In the meantime, I am glad Mr. Shrock is keeping his bar open.  More power to him.  I hope this is the last of the police he will see in his bar, unless he calls them himself.</p>
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		<title>And The Hits Just Keep On Coming&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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Oh, boy.  Well, Obama recently showed his true colors on &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell,&#8221; (see this, this, and this) and he has REALLY shown them on &#8220;DOMA&#8221; (Defense of Marriage Act).  I&#8217;m sorry to keep harping on this, but hey &#8211; it IS Pride month, after all, and what [...]]]></description>
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<p>Oh, boy.  Well, Obama recently showed his true colors on &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell,&#8221; (see <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/20/passing-the-buck/">this</a>, <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/10/stop-making-excuses-for-this-guy/">this</a>, and <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/06/12/soldiers-and-worms/">this</a>) and he has REALLY shown them on &#8220;DOMA&#8221; (Defense of Marriage Act).  I&#8217;m sorry to keep harping on this, but hey &#8211; it IS Pride month, after all, and what better time to stab a community in the back than the month you proclaim for them?  At least that seems to be Obama&#8217;s Opposite World logic.</p>
<p>Before I go any further, let me just say, for the gazillionith time: <span style="font-weight:bold;">I TOLD YOU THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN</span>.  All of us who didn&#8217;t just blow off his anti-gay associates, those of us who saw his saying one thing and doing another, without making excuses (&#8221;well, yes, I am disappointed, but&#8230;&#8221;  Those of us who paid attention to his close associates KNEW this was coming.  Once again, for all of you groups who supported Obama, who just KNEW he was going to bring Hope!  and Change! on his little Rainbow Unicorn Pony, thus throwing the rest of us to the curb, I freakin&#8217; told you so.<br />
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John Aravosis, lays it all out in this article, &#8220;<a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/090612/p40#a090612p40">Obama Defends DOMA In Federal Court</a>.&#8221;  Here&#8217;s a little taste of it:<br />
<blockquote>We just got the brief from reader Lavi Soloway. It&#8217;s pretty despicable, and gratuitously homophobic. It reads as if it were written by one of George Bush&#8217;s top political appointees. I cannot state strongly enough how damaging this brief is to us. Obama didn&#8217;t just argue a technicality about the case, he argued that DOMA is reasonable. That DOMA is constitutional. That DOMA wasn&#8217;t motivated by any anti-gay animus. He argued why our Supreme Court victories in Roemer and Lawrence shouldn&#8217;t be interpreted to give us rights in any other area (which hurts us in countless other cases and battles). He argued that DOMA doesn&#8217;t discriminate against us because it also discriminates about straight unmarried couples (ignoring the fact that they can get married and we can&#8217;t).</p>
<p>He actually argued that the courts shouldn&#8217;t consider Loving v. Virginia, the miscegenation case in which the Supreme Court ruled that it is unconstitutional to ban interracial marriages, when looking at gay civil rights cases. He told the court, in essence, that blacks deserve more civil rights than gays, that our civil rights are not on the same level. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yep.  Pretty much.  But we already knew that, didn&#8217;t we?  When the military will gladly take people, check that &#8211; heterosexual people &#8211; with criminal records over keeping West Point grads, I think the message is clear.</p>
<p>I am disgusted beyond belief.  Not surprised, mind you, just disgusted.  And angry.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more, as this article highlights, &#8220;<a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/090612/p131#a090612p131">Gay Rights Groups Irate After Obama Administration Lauds Defense Of Marriage Act</a>.&#8221;  Make sure you check out the powerful photo in this one:<br />
<blockquote>As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama claimed &#8220;we need to fully repeal the Defense of Marriage Act,&#8221; which says states are not required to recognize other states&#8217; same-sex marriages.</p>
<p>That was then. This week, the Obama administration is facing the ire of gay rights groups after it filed a brief in California federal court defending the Defense of Marriage Act and calling it a &#8220;valid exercise of Congress&#8217; power&#8221; that is saving taxpayers money.</p>
<p>The Defense of Marriage Act, or DOMA, was signed into law by President Clinton in 1996. It doesn&#8217;t prohibit same-sex marriages; instead, it says that no state &#8220;shall be required&#8221; to honor same-sex marriages taking place elsewhere or any &#8220;right or claim arising from such relationship.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire&#8221; would be appropriate here, IF we weren&#8217;t talking about people&#8217;s LIVES.  And that&#8217;s what makes this so egregious.  Still disgusted beyond belief, but this time, not only with Obama, but these groups who jumped on his little American Idol bandwagon, lapping up his Teleprompter &#8220;Words, just words.&#8221;  And that&#8217;s JUST what they were &#8211; words.  The actions are telling the tale, and it ain&#8217;t good.</p>
<p>And in a related case, the DOJ weighs in on a related case, &#8220;<a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/090612/p93#a090612p93">DOJ Moves To Dismiss First Fed Gay Marriage Case</a>&#8220;:<br />
<blockquote>The government said Smelt and Hammer seek a ruling on &#8220;whether by virtue of their marital status they are constitutionally entitled to acknowledgment of their union by states that do not recognize same-sex marriage, and whether they are similarly entitled to certain federal benefits.</p>
<p>&#8220;Under the law binding on this Court, the answer to these questions must be no,&#8221; the motion states.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, yes &#8211; he is SUCH a friend to the LGBT community &#8211; in Opposite World, that is.  And this kind of backtracking, bamboozling, bullshit from Obama is precisely why I told the HRC guy who called me the other day to get me to reinstate my membership that there was no way in hell I would do that after the HRC supported Obama, and not HRC (you know, as in Hillary).  He kept telling me that Obama SAID he was going to this, and Obama SAID he was going to do that.  I told him Obama could say whatever he WANTED, but the fact remained he had done NOTHING yet, and his history led me to believe he wouldn&#8217;t.  I just didn&#8217;t realize that in one week &#8211; within a couple of days of each other &#8211; that Obama would prove me right.  And not just that he wasn&#8217;t going to do anything, but he did WORSE than that, screwing us six ways to Sunday.  What I told this man at HRC as I got off the phone was, &#8220;Obama is no friend to the GLBT community.&#8221;  Talk about an understatement.</p>
<p>Once again, I say that anyone who thought for one skinny second that Obama was going to do anything at all positive for the GLBT community was deluding themselves so they could vote for the one everyone said was the cool kid, the popular guy, the one whose razor thin resume would have been laughed at except for his marketing team who billed no experience, and no qualifications, as the Change We NEED!!  Well, this is change alright, but I sure as hell don&#8217;t need it, and frankly, I resent all of those people who mindlessly voted for this man, who attacked all of us who didn&#8217;t buy his hooey from the get-go, all those people who called (and still call) us racists, and on and on and on because we didn&#8217;t swallow the Kool Aide.  </p>
<p>So, during this Pride Month, let me just say, thanks shitloads for giving us this guy who is taking us back, no, <span style="font-weight:bold;">legislating</span> us back into the closet (a little poetic license &#8211; you know what I mean).  Yep &#8211; thanks a whole lot for a whole lot of grief.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; what are you gonna DO about it???</p>
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		<title>What? An ACORN Spokesman Lied??  And Justice Not Served&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hell to the yes, he did.  You want to guess about what he lied?  The Census and ACORN workers, that is.  Oh yeah &#8211; our fears come true:


Remember those Black Panthers who were arrested in Philly for voter intimidation?  Well, guess who&#8217;s got a friend in the White House?  That [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell to the yes, he did.  You want to guess about what he lied?  The Census and ACORN workers, that is.  Oh yeah &#8211; our fears come true:</p>
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Remember those Black Panthers who were arrested in Philly for voter intimidation?  Well, guess who&#8217;s got a friend in the White House?  That would be the three men charged &#8211; amazingly, the charges have been <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/">DROPPED by the Justice Department</a>!  Oh, you know I&#8217;m not making this up:<br />
<blockquote>Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned.</p>
<p>The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force &#8212; one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.</p>
<p>The three black panthers, Minister King Samir Shabazz, Malik Zulu Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were charged in a civil complaint in the final days of the Bush administration with violating the voter rights act by using coercion, threats and intimidation. Shabazz allegedly held a nightstick or baton that prosecutors said he pointed at people and menacingly tapped it. Prosecutors also say he &#8220;supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Obama administration won the case last month, but moved to dismiss the charges on May 15.<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=011008&#038;streamingFormat=FLASH&#038;referralObject=5450759&#038;referralPlaylistId=playlist"><br />
Click here to see FOX News video from the scene on election day</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU">Click to watch the incident on YouTube</a>.</p>
<p>The complaint says the men hurled racial slurs at both blacks and whites.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;">A poll watcher who provided an affidavit to prosecutors in the case noted that Bartle Bull, who worked as a civil rights lawyer in the south in the 1960&#8217;s and is a former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy, said it was the most blatant form of voter intimidation he had ever seen.</span> (Emphasis mine.)</p>
<p>In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote &#8220;I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters.&#8221;</p>
<p>He also said they tried to &#8220;interfere with the work of other poll observers &#8230; whom the uniformed men apparently believed did not share their preferences politically,&#8221; noting that one of the panthers turned toward the white poll observers and said &#8220;you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker.&#8221;</p>
<p>A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, &#8220;The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again. Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Golly, I am just SO surprised, aren&#8217;t you?  I just never expected that Obama&#8217;s Justice Department would let these three men who were engaging in extreme voter intimidation off!!  Ahem.  Who am I kidding?  Of course I did.  I&#8217;m just surprised it didn&#8217;t happen sooner&#8230;</p>
<p>One last note &#8211; as a follow-up to all of the GM news, including the closing of plants about which I just wrote, I recommend this post by Uppity Woman, &#8220;<a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/05/29/congratulations-comrades-and-comradesses-you-are-proud-owners-of-government-motors/#more-25213">Congratulations, Comrades and Comradesses!  You Are Proud Owners Of Government Motors</a>&#8220;!  That pretty much says it all!  What&#8217;s next?  California?</p>
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		<title>POTUS Blinks, Day 7 on the Torture Memos</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Batchelor</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ White House Plans to Release More Documents &#8212; and Photographs, Too. &#160;
&#160;Congressional leaders met on Thursday with POTUS at the White House to discuss comity, yet what dominated&#160;the headlines afterward were the Torture Memos. &#160;House GOP Leader&#160;John Boehner asked POTUS to release the documents that explicate what intelligence the Bush administration actually obtained from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">White House Plans to Release More Documents &#8212; and Photographs, Too. &nbsp;</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
<p><center><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="r3795431912.jpg" src="http://johnbatchelorshow.com/images/r3795431912.jpg" width="400" height="267" margin: 0 0 20px 20px;" /></span></center><br />&nbsp;<br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">Congressional leaders met on Thursday with POTUS at the White House to discuss comity, yet what dominated&nbsp;<a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21654.html">the headlines</a> afterward were the Torture Memos. &nbsp;House GOP Leader&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">John Boehner </span>asked POTUS to release the documents that explicate what intelligence the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">Bush </span>administration actually obtained from the suspects under torture. &nbsp;The POTUS made no commitment.&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><br />According to Boehner, the president said further disclosures were being discussed by the administration. However, the White House official, who asked not be named, said the president made no explicit statement about a review.&nbsp;</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">The NYT put the new information, if that&#8217;s what it is, in a more<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/us/politics/24cong.html?_r=1&amp;hp"> deeply ambiguous fashion</a>:<span id="more-22551"></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
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<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 11.0px 0.0px; line-height: 17.0px; font: 11.0px Georgia"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">The president did not foreclose the release of more documents, officials briefed on the session said. But Mr. Obama suggested to Mr. Boehner that the additional information would not be definitive on the value of the information obtained from the detainees, they said.</span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">More,&nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">Nancy Pelosi</span> may have reiterated her notion of a Truth Commission. &nbsp; &nbsp;<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">POTUS may have discouraged the Speaker. </span>&nbsp;This may be half of a blink. &nbsp;Majority Leader <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">Harry Reid</span> cagily declared that any formal inquiry of the Torture Memos and attendant material would be &#8220;unhelpful.&#8221; &nbsp; At the same time news emerged that the White House, through its obedient agent the DoD, is planning to release 44 photographs of abused prisoners in four weeks,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-interrogate24-2009apr24,0,4199113.story">on May 28.</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">The photographs are said not to be as disturbing as the original Abu Ghraib snapshots. &nbsp;But then, these will be <span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">official photographs</span> of suspected abuse. &nbsp; </p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">The Obama administration is releasing the 44 photographs in response to legal pressure brought by the ACLU over a long period of time. &nbsp;The Bush administration fought until the end. &nbsp;Now, the Obama administration will compromise, sort of.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">&#8220;This will constitute visual proof that, unlike the Bush administration&#8217;s claim, the abuse was not confined to Abu Ghraib and was not aberrational,&#8221; said Amrit Singh, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, which obtained the agreement as part of a long-running legal battle for documents related to Bush-era anti-terror policies</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">Meanwhile, AG <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">Eric Holder</span>&nbsp;(above at House hearings today)&nbsp;<a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hCTpLC0lQzvQjxI5bTpY2l9kwC8wD97OC1OG3">declare</a>d&nbsp;that he will not selectively release documents supporting or explicating the original four Torture Memos. &nbsp;No compromise, so far.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><br /></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold;">What of the CIA?</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://johnbatchelorshow.com/images/21cia_600.JPG"><img alt="21cia_600.JPG" src="http://johnbatchelorshow.com/assets_c/2009/04/21cia_600-thumb-300x169.jpg" width="300" height="169" class="mt-image-right" style="float: right; margin: 0 0 20px 20px;" /></a></span></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">The new damage here is twofold. &nbsp;First, all hope of &nbsp;cease-fire is wrecked between the most partisan rightist Republicans and the most partisan leftist Democrats. &nbsp;Like the Barnburners and the Abolitionists before the civil war, the two strident camps, small in comparison to the electorate, now can dominate every conversation about &nbsp;the Torture Memos. &nbsp;The civil war of talk is launched; the two self-elected champions will insist upon center stage until 2012. &nbsp;The POTUS cannot stop this wrestling. &nbsp;The blinking today at the White House may have been the POTUS suddenly realizing that the grudge match does not need him to do other than stand by and hesitate. &nbsp; </p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">Also, the always creative <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/George-Soros-joins-push-for-interrogations-investigation-43470087.html">George Soros has announced that he will join the brick-throwing </a>in demand for an investigation. &nbsp; The second damage is to the POTUS&#8217;s relationship to the spooks. &nbsp;The trip to Langley on Monday (right) was to seek to heal the rift caused by the original memo release.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">This is Day 7. &nbsp;News of the 44 additional photographs to be released, suggestions of a Truth Commission, blogosphere bloviating of a war crimes tribunal and a 9/11 search and destroy investigation, all this will deepen the paranoia and alienation among the spooks, present, past and future.</p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">The relations between Langley and POTUS may be compromised without possibility of repair. &nbsp;Too soon to be certain. &nbsp;One voice suggested it was <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-interrogate24-2009apr24,0,4199113.story">too late already</a>:<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></p>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">&#8220;My sense is the president was trying to please a lot of audiences at one time and that over the last [week] he has totally failed to put the mind of the intelligence community at ease,&#8221; said Mark Lowenthal, a former senior advisor to CIA Director George J. Tenet. &#8220;He is going to end up with a national clandestine service that will not be willing to do anything because they feel he will not be there for them when they need him.&#8221;</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"><br /></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Garamond, Palatino, Times, Times Roman; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"></span><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://johnbatchelorshow.com/images/020207.jpg"><img alt="020207.jpg" src="http://johnbatchelorshow.com/assets_c/2009/04/020207-thumb-665x890.jpg" width="440" height="" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span>
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