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		<title>&#8220;If You Love Me&#8230;&#8221; *Open Thread*</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know about what I am talking &#8211; Obama&#8217;s exhortation to a bunch of college kids to tell Congress to pass his bill because they love him. Probably the worst reason on the face of the planet to pass legislation using a bill that the president insists be signed in its entirety, without studying the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know about what I am talking &#8211; Obama&#8217;s exhortation to a bunch of college  kids to tell Congress to pass his bill because they love him. Probably the worst reason on the face of the planet to pass legislation using a bill that the president insists be signed in its entirety, without studying the effects of the damn thing. Where have we heard this before? Ahem.</p>
<p>In case you missed it somehow, this is to what I am referring:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/61718/if-you-love-me-open-thread/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p><br />
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Holy cow. Thank heavens it&#8217;s Friday, and it&#8217;s time for some tunes, especially to get the image out of my mind of the last video. I&#8217;ll stick with Obama&#8217;s theme, though, because, well, it&#8217;s just so easy, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>First up &#8211; and I am sure you knew this was coming &#8211; is this old fave:</p>
<p><p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/61718/if-you-love-me-open-thread/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>Except, of course, Obama can&#8217;t dance. But you know what I mean.</p>
<p>And I have to hand it to Senator Jon Cornyn (R-TX) for coming up with this one as a result of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;If You Love Me&#8230;&#8221; manipulation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/61718/if-you-love-me-open-thread/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>How funny is that? He mentioned it in a press conference. Hilarious.</p>
<p>And if I can digress for a moment, as many of you know, there is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5xDBxE_0w">a video making the rounds</a> of  President and First Lady Obama at the 9/11/11 commemoration. In it, the First Lady seems to be making a derogatory comment about the ritual of folding the flag, and the President appears to agree with her. If indeed the First Lady made such a commen<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W5xDBxE_0w">t</a>, allow me to highlight for her the meaning behind each fold, and why the<a href="http://www.legion.org/flag/folding"> flag of the United States</a> is done the way it is:</p>
<blockquote><p>The <strong>first</strong> fold of our flag is a symbol of life.</p>
<p>The <strong>second</strong> fold is a symbol of our belief in eternal life.</p>
<p>The <strong>third</strong> fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life for the defense of our country to attain peace throughout the world.</p>
<p>The <strong>fourth</strong> fold represents our weaker nature; as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace, as well as in times of war, for His divine guidance.</p>
<p>The <strong>fifth</strong> fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong.”</p>
<p>The <strong>sixth</strong> fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.</p>
<p>The <strong>seventh</strong> fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.</p>
<p>The <strong>eighth</strong> fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother’s Day.</p>
<p>The <strong>ninth</strong> fold is a tribute to womanhood, for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great have been molded.</p>
<p>The <strong>10th</strong> fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first born.</p>
<p>The <strong>11th</strong> fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.</p>
<p>The <strong>12th</strong> fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost.</p>
<p>When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God We Trust.”</p>
<p>After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it has the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under Gen. George Washington and the sailors and Marines who served under Capt. John Paul Jones and were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the U.S. Armed Forces, preserving for us the rights, privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.</p></blockquote>
<p>Regardless of what she actually said, one would think the First Lady of the United States might act with a bit more decorum during such a solemn rite than rolling her eyes, but even more so  the PRESIDENT of the United States. At such a momentous occasion, nothing but the most respect and gravity for the rites and rituals of the day will do.</p>
<p>And this is how it is done:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/61718/if-you-love-me-open-thread/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t possibly roll my eyes at this ritual &#8211; I was too busy crying at the beauty, the solemnity, the care, and the precision with which they care for the flag. Roll my eyes? No.  Not even close. Rather, it makes me proud.</p>
<p>Okay &#8211; it&#8217;s your turn, friends. Talk about this or anything else on your mind, post some videos, whatever. After the week we have had, it&#8217;s time for a break, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>The Sorry State of Pakistan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nail Em Up</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Osama bin Laden: killed and al Qaeda: on the run. That&#8217;s the balance sheet &#8212; more or less &#8212; that the U.S. has to share with the world. Meanwhile, its biggest ally in the War on Terror &#8212; Pakistan &#8212; has nothing to present except that its own people have been terrorized by militants, with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osama bin Laden: killed and al Qaeda: on the run. That&#8217;s the balance sheet &#8212; more or less &#8212; that the U.S. has to share with the world. Meanwhile, its biggest ally in the War on Terror &#8212; Pakistan &#8212; has nothing to present except that its own people have been terrorized by militants, with thousands sacrificing their lives. Pakistan&#8217;s contribution to the War on Terror has been so limited that the U.S. was not willing to trust it with the Seal Six mission.</p>
<p>The world focused on the Northern areas of Pakistan to capture or kill the al-Qaeda or Taliban operatives. But the harsh reality is that even if these operatives are eliminated, there are other outfits in the rest of the southern part of Pakistan that have the same aims, will and training as that of al-Qaeda or Taliban.</p>
<p>After 2001 Pakistanis were spoon fed the propaganda that the violence in Pakistan is due to America&#8217;s presence in Afghanistan. As a result, many hate the U.S. intervention and see Islamists as the defenders of Pakistani sovereignty. <span id="more-61635"></span>Those who support the Islamists for their religious beliefs are relatively few in number, but they are better organized. The arrests of extremists depends on the willingness of Pakistan&#8217;s secret agencies and/or the influence of the Saudi government.</p>
<p>The dual policy of keeping the U.S. happy while supporting the terrorist outfits was charted out by the then-President of Pakistan Gen. Pervez Musharraf. He half-heartedly banned some 23 organizations but failed &#8212; deliberately &#8212; to bring their sponsors to justice.</p>
<p>The story of Southern part of Pakistan is much scarier than the Northern part. Just as the ten-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approached, those &#8220;banned&#8221; outfits were <a href="http://tribune.com.pk/story/234738/militant-groups-resurgence-dreaded-jaish-looks-to-rise-again/">on the rise</a>, exploiting the anti-Americanism in the country and misusing the name of religion.</p>
<p>Jaish-e-Muhammad, the group blamed for an attack on the Indian parliament, is the second largest jihadi group in Southern Punjab. It carries out regular public gatherings and has strong influence in the U.K., Europe, Dubai, Saudi Arabia and even in the U.S. Libya&#8217;s Moammar Gaddafi was their financial patron-in-chief at one point. Another major financer is Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>JeM changed its name a few times because of the &#8220;ban.&#8221; It went from Khudam-al-Islam to Al Rehmat Trust International to Usman Trust. Currently it is operating under the banner of Al Shafi Islamic Medical. Its publications were never out of print.</p>
<p>The failed Times Square bomber, <a href="http://www.washingtonian.com/print/articles/6/0/17217.html">Faisal Shahzad</a>, spent much of his time at a JeM madrassa in Karachi. He was transported to the North later by Laskhar-e-Jhangvi for further training.</p>
<p>LeJ&#8217;s parent organization &#8212; Sipah Sahaba Pakistan &#8212; changed its name from Millat-e-Islamia to International Quran Movement to Ehle Sunnat wa Jamaat. Its propaganda organ publications were available to the masses outside mosques and various market places.</p>
<p>The LeJ formed and operated its new wing, also known as Lashkar e Jhangvi al Almi (LeJ International). With its headquarters in Pakistan, it covers Europe and the U.K. The LeJ is organized into small cells of around eight cadres each, who operate independently of the others.</p>
<p>LeJ leader Malik Ishaq told an Urdu newspaper about his involvement in the killings of 102 people. He was allowed a stipend and provided a mobile phone in jail. Ishaq was released this year after the courts found <a href="http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/19/lashkar-e-jhangvi-and-the-lack-of-evidence.html">no evidence against him</a>.</p>
<p>Gen. Musharraf&#8217;s government carried out just one operation against the Islamic fundamentalists, under pressure from the Chinese government, when he ordered the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lal_Masjid">Red Mosque Siege</a>. Pakistani intelligence officials said they found letters from Osama bin Laden&#8217;s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to the leaders of the mosque, directing them to conduct an armed revolt. One of the leaders was <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/17/red-mosque-pakistan-cleric-bail">released by the courts</a> later.</p>
<p>The LeJ, JeM and Harkat ul Jihad-e-Islami (HuJI) formed a common front called Lashkar-e-Umer with countrywide branches for close cooperation and pooled resources. These groups still support each other in one form or another.</p>
<p>The Karachi-based Al Rasheed Trust, was &#8220;banned&#8221; and listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department on September 22, 2001. The group is still operating and its chief was one of the few who had direct access to bin Laden.</p>
<p>Similarly, another group, the Falah-e-Isnaniyat Foundation (FIF) is linked with Lashkar and Jamat-al-Dawa and protected by the security establishment. These groups are also supported and <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s3086132.htm">funded by the Saudis</a>.</p>
<p>The freehand operations of these groups have radicalized Pakistani society. Anti-Americanism spreads while <a href="http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/7663/arabization-of-pakistan-bringing-the-desert-home/">Arabization </a>has taken hold.</p>
<p>There are more and more mosques in each city, many run by such outfits. In some places three separate mosques of different sects are built next to each other. The sermons delivered there go unchecked and ultimately fuel the hatred and twisted ideology of dividing Muslims and bringing &#8216;sharia&#8217; of their liking to the world. Public Billboards promoting jihad and hatred of America are everywhere cloaked as appeals for &#8220;charity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pakistan&#8217;s internal crises include a deep cynicism that has seeped into every nook and cranny of everyday life. Politically, the army continues to run the popular narrative. Socially, if liberals talk about rapprochement with India, they&#8217;re accused of being controlled by RAW, the C.I.A. or the Zionists &#8212; or all three. The radical view that it&#8217;s acceptable to kill Shi&#8217;a, Ahmadis, Hindus and Christians and destroy their places of worship is widespread.</p>
<p>Because of this chaos, ordinary Pakistanis who want to travel, work and study abroad are finding it harder to do so. In the eyes of many immigration officials around the world, to be Pakistani is synonymous with being a criminal.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been said many times that 9/11 changed the world. After the attacks, Afghanistan and Pakistan felt the heat.</p>
<p>Ten years later, the diseases that had been contained in Pakistan metastasize more rapidly than ever. Pakistan&#8217;s militants, all of them, are a threat to international peace. If the West&#8217;s strategy for combating radicalism continues on its present parochial course, the world will feel the heat.</p>
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		<title>Taliban Ramps Up Violence Against US In Aghanistan; Israeli Embassy Under Attack In Egypt *Updated*</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update below the fold. In the midst of commemorations for 9/11/01, a day on which we remembered those who were killed, and reaffirmed the commitment to keep our nation safe, the Taliban was busy in Afghanistan. Our officials were concerned about a 9/11 attack &#8211; but we thought it would be on our shores, in [...]]]></description>
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<p>In the midst of commemorations for 9/11/01, a day on which we remembered those who were killed, and reaffirmed the commitment to keep our nation safe, the Taliban was busy  in Afghanistan. Our officials were concerned about a 9/11 attack &#8211; but we thought it would be on our shores, in an area already hit.</p>
<p>And in a way, it was. The <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan-base-attack-20110912,0,4114949.story">Taliban attacked our soldiers</a> at a military base:</p>
<blockquote><p>The massive <a id="ORCIG00001549" title="Taliban" href="http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/government/taliban-ORCIG00001549.topic">Taliban</a> truck bomb that exploded outside an American military base in a restive eastern district injured nearly 80 U.S. troops and killed five Afghans, Western and Afghan officials said Sunday.</p>
<p>The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, which took place Saturday evening in the Sayedabad district of Wardak province. That is the same district where insurgents last month shot down a U.S. Chinook helicopter, killing 30 American troops, the majority of them Navy SEALs, including some from the unit responsible for killing <a id="PECLB20372037" title="Osama bin Laden" href="http://www.latimes.com/topic/unrest-conflicts-war/terrorism/osama-bin-laden-PECLB20372037.topic">Osama bin Laden</a>.</p>
<p>The Chinook crash, which remains under investigation, was the worst single loss of American military lives in the nearly decade-long war.<br />
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Although no Americans died in Saturday&#8217;s blast, it appeared to be one of the biggest casualty counts in an insurgent strike on a Western military installation. The bombing also carried symbolic weight, coming on the eve of the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. [snip]</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank heavens none of our soldiers were killed, but for almost 80 of them to have been injured, is significant enough. That said, it is very sad that others did die in this attack on our base. And, thank heavens that the base was so fortified that more damage was not done to our troops or the base.</p>
<blockquote><p>The article continues:</p>
<p>[snip] Hours after the attack, a solemn ceremony was held at <a id="ORGOV000016138" title="U.S. Embassy" href="http://www.latimes.com/topic/politics/diplomacy/u.s.-embassy-ORGOV000016138.topic">the U.S. Embassy</a> in Kabul on Sunday morning to remember the victims of Sept. 11. Before an audience of several hundred embassy employees, military officials and Afghan dignitaries, the American flag was lowered to half-staff and a lone bugle sounded taps. [snip] (Click<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghanistan-base-attack-20110912,0,4114949.story"> here to read</a> the rest.)</p></blockquote>
<p>It was that very embassy in Kabul that the Taliban attacked on Monday. Though the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/world/asia/14afghanistan.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all">New York Times seems loathe</a> to cloak the attackers with that moniker:</p>
<blockquote><p>Insurgents launched a complex assault against the American Embassy and the nearby <a title="More articles about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/north_atlantic_treaty_organization/index.html?inline=nyt-org">NATO</a> headquarters on Tuesday, pelting the heavily guarded compounds with rockets in an attack that raised new questions about the security of Afghanistan’s capital and the Westerners working there.</p>
<p>At least 10 explosions — apparently from rockets launched by militants — and waves of automatic weapons fire were reported amid the drone of sirens and English-language warnings telling Americans inside the embassy to take cover.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>It was unclear precisely how many assailants were behind the assault or whether they were attacking from a single or multiple locations. The attackers were holed up on several floors of a tall, partly built concrete building that offered a bird’s-eye view of the secured diplomatic and military compounds about a half mile away. Flashes from gun barrels could be seen as the militants fired from their perch. Afghan security forces returned fire from the ground, sending puffs of concrete dust into the air as bullets slapped the building. [snip]</p></blockquote>
<p>So far, no Americans have been killed, but the Taliban is taking credit for this assault, which the Times has not yet verified, hence their hesitancy to label it as such. Other news organizations are claiming this is indeed the continuing actions of the Taliban insurgents.</p>
<p>Regardless who is responsible, these attacks, the <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-kabul-attackers-dealt-143616913.html">third since June</a>, cannot stand:</p>
<blockquote><p>Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says the U.S. will do everything it can to combat those who committed a &#8220;cowardly attack&#8221; on the U.S. Embassy and other buildings in Kabul.</p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_1_1315926173231422">Clinton said the U.S. was moving to secure the area in Afghanistan&#8217;s capital and &#8220;ensure that those who perpetrated this attack are dealt with.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I would certainly hope so. For live updates of the situation in Kabul, click <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/sep/13/us-embassy-under-attack">here</a> or <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8759579/Kabul-US-embassy-attack-live.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>I suppose this shouldn&#8217;t be a big surprise, considering what happened outside our embassy in England on 9/11:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/61608/taliban-ramps-up-violence-against-us-in-aghanistan-israeli-embassy-under-attack-in-egypt-updated/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>I am pretty sure they were chanting, &#8220;Burn, Burn, USA.&#8221;  We are mourning the loss of life and liberty in our country, and on that very day, this group is marching against us in England.  Wow. It is all a matter of degrees.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, rioters attacked the Israeli Embassy in Cairo, Egypt over the weekend. Yikes. This is not good. Especially since these rioters then turned on some of those who were reporting<a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-10/world/egypt.journalists.targeted_1_israeli-embassy-angry-crowd-embassy-attack?_s=PM:WORLD"> this attack, notably, CNN</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>An angry crowd lingering near the Israeli embassy in Cairo after an attack on the building a day earlier turned on journalists reporting the incident Saturday, accusing at least one of being an Israeli spy.</p>
<p>As a CNN crew filmed the embassy from across the street, another crew from American public television &#8212; led by Egyptian television producer Dina Amer &#8212; approached the building.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>&#8220;There was this older lady who decided to follow me and rally people against me,&#8221; Amer recalled. &#8220;She said &#8216;you&#8217;re a spy working with the Americans.&#8217; Then they swarmed me and I was a target.&#8221;</p>
<p>A growing crowd surrounded Amer and her colleagues, as they tried to leave the scene. Mohamed Fadel Fahmy, a producer working for CNN, rushed to help escort Amer through the angry crowd. But suddenly the two reporters were pinned against the railing of an overpass by young men who were accusing Amer of being an Israeli spy.</p>
<p>Yelling &#8220;I&#8217;m Egyptian,&#8221; Fahmy managed to pull Amer another 10 meters down the road, until the pressure from the mob overwhelmed the pair. Amer screamed as she and Fahmy were knocked to the ground and the crowd started to trample them.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>&#8220;I was thinking, how powerless I was because there was no police to save us,&#8221; Fahmy said. &#8220;I was worried that they were going to rape her.&#8221;</p>
<p>[...]<br />
Amer had few words to describe the terrifying ordeal. &#8220;They were animals,&#8221; she said.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would say that sums it up. But the CNN reporter and crew were not the only ones:</p>
<blockquote><p>[snip]</p>
<p>Other Egyptian journalists told CNN they were also attacked Saturday while trying to report near the Israeli embassy.</p>
<p>Ahmed Aleiba, a correspondent with Egyptian state television, said he was pursued by civilians and soldiers. (Click <a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-10/world/egypt.journalists.targeted_1_israeli-embassy-angry-crowd-embassy-attack?_s=PM:WORLD">here to read</a> the rest.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Holy cow, that must have been terrifying, especially for Amer. I cannot help but think of <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/58952/lara-logans-nightmare-unveiled/">Lara Logan and her ordeal</a> as she tried to report on the uprising in February.  This is all just disturbing as hell, especially now that the soldiers are joining in with the civilians.</p>
<p>I hope and pray that those inside these embassies in both Afghanistan and Egypt remain safe, but that those who are trying to report on these attacks do, as well. These are uneasy days, to be sure, and highlight that the lessons of 9/11 cannot be forgotten. Uneasy days are ahead, no doubt&#8230;</p>
<p>UPDATE: My buddy, Nunly, provided the link to this story, which is disturbing in light of the recent attacks: <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036390/Talks-Taliban-U-S-backs-let-Islamist-group-set-office-Qatar.html#ixzz1Xs4i7EFf">U.S. Backs Move To Let Taliban Open Headquarters In Qatar In The Hope Of Ending War In Afghanistan</a>. </p>
<p>Draw your own conclusions.</p>
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		<title>Hard To Believe &#8211; 9/11 Happened Ten Years Ago Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is harder to believe is that Mayor Bloomberg has decided that First Responders would not be invited to the memorial service. Huh? If you can explain that to me, I&#8217;d appreciate it, because I sure as hell do not understand it. How can he NOT invite the very people who ran into this horrific [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is harder to believe is that Mayor Bloomberg has decided that First Responders would not be invited to the memorial service.</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>If you can explain that to me, I&#8217;d appreciate it, because I sure as hell do not understand it. How can he NOT invite the very people who ran into this horrific situation with radios that didn&#8217;t work, doing whatever they could to save lives? There is no doubt that without them, more souls would have perished. But Bloomberg says there isn&#8217;t enough room for them.</p>
<p>Riiigghhhtttt&#8230;</p>
<p>There is no explanation, no rationale, no justification, no excuse good enough to explain how these brave people, firefighters, police officers, are to be left out of the tenth anniversary of this horrific attack on our country when they were the ones there, day in and day out.<br />
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This is for them, those courageous men and women who served this nation so well on that day, one seared into the national consciousness, one that changed our lives forever:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/61499/hard-to-believe-911-happened-ten-years-ago-today/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>For our nation, as we remember this day, truly a day seared into our national consciousness, we must never forget what happened this day in New York City, in a field in Pennsylvania, and at the Pentagon. We can never forget that there are those who wish to do America harm.</p>
<p>For all those who were lost that day, workers at the Towers, in the Pentagon, and passengers on a flight, the first responders who ran into harm&#8217;s way when everyone else was trying desperately to run as far away as possible from the danger, we will not forget you. No matter the ridiculous decisions by those in power to leave out these brave souls, we will not forget you. Nor will we forget the pain and suffering of the families and friends who lost loves ones that day.</p>
<p>It is the Tenth Anniversary of 9/11.  And we will never forget&#8230;</p>
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		<title>The Saudi Hollywood Makeover</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 21:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tense relationship between Pakistan and the United States has often been described as a bad marriage. Like a couple teetering on divorce but frozen in mutually dependent inertia, the U.S. wants one thing while Pakistan wants another, at least most of the time. This love-hate relationship long precedes the September 11th attacks. The last [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tense relationship between Pakistan and the United States has often been described as a bad marriage. Like a couple teetering on divorce but frozen in mutually dependent inertia, the U.S. wants one thing while Pakistan wants another, at least most of the time. This love-hate relationship long precedes the September 11th attacks. The last ten years just shed light on the ugly side of this relationship. But a relationship that is just as important in the War on Terror, but far less public, is the one the U.S. has with Saudi Arabia. If Pakistan thinks the U.S. has double standards when it comes to what they allow allies to get away with in exchange for cooperation in the WOT, that perception wouldn&#8217;t be entirely off-base.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/fahrenheit-911-facts/what-fahrenheit-911-says-about-the-saudi-flights-out-of-the-country-after-september-11">open secret</a> that hundreds of Saudi families and nationals were flown out of the States during the days after the attacks. The exodus was organized by Saudi Arabia&#8217;s<span id="more-60051"></span> Ambassador to the U.S., Prince Bandar bin Sulan bin Abdul Aziz, also known as &#8220;Bandar Bush&#8221; due to his closeness to the Bush family. The ambassador expedited the departures of two families: The Saudi royals and the bin Ladens. But not even the notoriously charming prince could adequately explain why or how 15 out of the 19 hijackers came from a country the U.S. had always claimed as a close ally.</p>
<p>It should, then, be safe to call the Saudi-U.S. relationship a &#8220;secret&#8221; marriage. Not many Americans know how strong or weak this marriage is, mostly because the Saudis spent billions &#8212; and more billions &#8212; to spruce up their image or stay hidden from the general public.</p>
<p>The Saudis&#8217; initial attempts at post-9/11 damage control backfired &#8212; badly. Exhibit A: Prince Alwaleed bin Talal&#8217;s public show of <a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2001-10-11/us/rec.giuliani.prince_1_saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-israeli-withdrawal-criminal-attack?_s=PM:US">contributing</a> $10 million to New York for disaster relief. Unfortunately for the Kingdom, the prince had the poor judgment to use the opportunity to lecture the U.S. about its foreign policy at the same time. Then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani made it clear that New York had no need for his money.</p>
<p>Realizing that their image needed bolstering, the Saudis did what troubled totalitarian regimes the world over do: They hired a <a href="http://www.qorvis.com/case-studies/media-and-government-relations-kingdom-saudi-arabia">PR firm</a> and a gang of high-powered Washington lobbyists. The PR blitz was a <a href="http://hir.harvard.edu/predicting-the-present/getting-a-facelift">flop.</a></p>
<p>But this did not stop the Saudis, and now, in an ironic twist, the prince is <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/news-corp-executives-actu_n_692790.html">the second-largest shareholder</a> in Rupert Murdoch&#8217;s News Corps, the parent company of Fox News Channel, a notorious source of anti-Muslim rhetoric.</p>
<p>The Kingdom&#8217;s ongoing image woes have long been exacerbated by reports of a <a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/11/24/saudi-arabia-witchcraft-and-sorcery-cases-rise">barbaric judicial system</a>, <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/11/501364/main20070651.shtml">beheadings</a>, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/saudi-women-defy-driving-ban/2011/06/17/AGNQDNZH_story.html">the second class citizen</a> status of women and the complete <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia">absence of human rights</a> and religious freedom. The flow of Saudi petrodollars into the coffers of terrorist groups around the world has been reported on, <a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/031215/15terror.htm">analyzed</a> and <a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-06/world/wikileaks.terrorism.funding_1_saudi-arabia-terrorist-funding-terrorist-groups?_s=PM:WORLD">criticized</a> for years, to little effect.</p>
<p>It is no secret either that Saudis have also been instrumental in bankrolling and backing discrimination and violence against the Shias, as described by <a href="http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Politics/InternationalStudies/?view=usa&#038;ci=9780195479560">Khaled Ahmed</a> in his book Sectarian War: Pakistan&#8217;s Sunni-Shia Violence and Its Links to the Middle East:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to Barnett Rubin, in 1989, the Afghan mujahideen government-in-exile came into being in Peshawar after the Soviet retreat from Afghanistan. At the behest of Saudi Arabia, the exiled Shia mujahideen of Iran were not included in this government. The Saudis paid over $26 million a week to the 519-member session of the mujahideen shura (council) as a bribe for it. Each member of the shura received $25,000 for the deal which was facilitated, according to Rubin, by the ISI Chief Hamid Gul.
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<p>But as the world is watching the developments in the war on terror, the Saudis are out to burnish their image as humanitarians. They know that the someone somewhere might mention the fact that Afghanistan was the training ground and Pakistan was the facilitator, but the majority of the hijackers were the nationals of the Kingdom. Over the last ten years, the situation is Pakistan and Afghanistan has gone from bad to worse, while a major player of this &#8216;great game&#8217; has kept itself at a distance with its petrodollars.</p>
<p>Given the Saudis&#8217; penchant for funding and exporting extremism and meddling throughout the Muslim world, how would you react if you heard a Saudi prince had bankrolled an expensive research project to create a genetically modified strain of corn that could eliminate world hunger?</p>
<p>The prince does this not for financial gain, but as a gesture of goodwill. The prince also speaks perfect English, appreciates female arm candy and is a target for Islamic extremists at home.</p>
<p>Apparently, the Saudis have found a way to uplift their image.</p>
<p>This prince is a hero, not in a real life of course &#8212; but in a Hollywood movie, Unknown. As America prepares to mark the ten year anniversary of 9/11, this pop culture moment is nothing short of extraordinary. The Saudis have achieved a PR coup: Positive product placement. The Kingdom is re-branding.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing particularly original about the plot, which consists of a series of predictable spy scenarios &#8212; a foreign city, inclement weather, amnesia, car chases, the Cold War, evil multinationals. It&#8217;s been done a million times.</p>
<p>But what is totally unexpected is the depiction of a Saudi royal as a generous benefactor, a plot point that is so rare it captures the attention. Even more remarkable is that there have been no debates, no protests, no boycotts, no outrage. The movie came and went without a peep.</p>
<p>Even more intriguing: The film Unknown is based on the novel Out of My Head by Didier van Cauwelaert. There is no benevolent Saudi prince in the original version of the story. So how did this plot twist come about?</p>
<p>Since no one in the press or the world of politics seems to care, it may be a while before we find out.</p>
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		<title>Pak-US: Charlie Brown, Lucy and the Football</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the most familiar story lines in the beloved comic strip &#8220;Peanuts&#8221; involved malicious prankster Lucy holding a football and encouraging poor Charlie Brown to kick it. At the last moment, Lucy would pull the football away. Year after year after year, Lucy played Charlie Brown for a sucker. The football remained unkicked. So [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most familiar story lines in the beloved comic strip &#8220;Peanuts&#8221; involved malicious prankster Lucy holding a football and encouraging poor Charlie Brown to kick it. At the last moment, Lucy would pull the football away. Year after year after year, Lucy played Charlie Brown for a sucker. The football remained unkicked.</p>
<p>So why did Charlie Brown keep trying? To quote Samuel Johnson, Charlie Brown&#8217;s determination was an example of the triumph of hope over experience.</p>
<p>Like the relationship between the United States and Pakistan for the last 60 years.</p>
<p>Following 1947&#8243;s bloody partition from India, Pakistan followed a more pro-Western policy whereas the Indian government defined its foreign policy as more leftist. Diplomatic relations between the U.S. and Pakistan were established shortly after Pakistan&#8217;s independence.<span id="more-59307"></span> In May of 1950, Prime Minister Liquiat Ali Khan made the first state visit to the United States, stopping in New York, Washington, Houston and Kansas City. The prime minister was seeking financial and military assistance. The U.S. did not see the usefulness of a strong relationship with Pakistan and her interests in Pakistan were limited.</p>
<p>1954 marked a turning point in the history of relations between the two countries, as the U.S. began providing Pakistan with military aid, which would increase over the years. It was in the same decade that Pakistan experienced its first military coup, when its Army Chief Ayub Khan took power in 1958.</p>
<p>It was at that point that the football, in the form of aid, support of civilian government and cooperation in the war on terror entered the picture. Over the years, the U.S. and Pakistan&#8217;s relationship would improve and worsen in increasingly dramatic cycles.</p>
<p>The U.S. refused to provide military assistance to Pakistan during the 1965 Indo-Pakistani War. In April of 1979 the United States suspended all economic assistance to Pakistan (with the exception of food assistance) over concerns about Pakistan&#8217;s nuclear program.</p>
<p>The tide shifted in 1981, when Pakistan and the United States agreed on a $3.2 billion military and economic assistance program aimed at helping Pakistan deal with the heightened threat to security in the region and its economic development needs. With U.S. assistance &#8212; in the largest covert operation in history &#8212; Pakistan armed and supplied anti-Soviet fighters in Afghanistan. Weapons flowed through Pakistan to arm the mujaheddin through General Zia Ul-Haq, another military dictator who rose to power through a coup.</p>
<p>But the relationship&#8217;s cracks were becoming more obvious. As Lawrence Wright wrote in his New Yorker piece <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/16/110516fa_fact_wright#ixzz1MebVgOD1">&#8220;U.S. Support for Pakistan: A Long Messy History;</a>&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>At the same time, Zia began giving support to an Islamist organization, Jamaat-e-Islami, the forerunner of many more radical groups to come. In November, a mob of Jamaat followers, inflamed by a rumor that the U.S. and Israel were behind an attack on the Grand Mosque, in Mecca, burned the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad to the ground, killing two Americans and two Pakistani employees. The American romance with Pakistan was over, but the marriage was just about to begin.
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<p>After 9/11, Pakistan, led by General Pervez Musharraf, reversed course under pressure from the United States and joined the &#8220;War on Terror&#8221; as a U.S. ally. This alliance began rather dramatically. According to Musharraf&#8217;s biography, In the Line of Fire, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage threatened to &#8220;bomb Pakistan into the stone age&#8221; if the country didn&#8217;t get with the program. It was an &#8220;offer&#8221; that Pakistan was in no position to refuse. General Musharraf was strongly supported by the Bush administration.</p>
<p>In return for their support, Pakistan has received about $10 billion in U.S. aid since 2001, primarily military.</p>
<p>Where did the money go? According to Military Inc., by Ayesha Siddiqa, Pakistan&#8217;s army, which has never won a war, found creative ways to take advantage of Western largesse, investing in hotels, real estate, and shopping malls. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/24/AR2008062401255.html">According to a 2008 GAO report</a>, more than a third of U.S. funds provided Pakistan since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were subject to accounting problems, including duplication and possible fraud.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the thorny topic of A.Q. Khan, the father of the &#8220;Islamic Bomb.&#8221; While Khan was operating a nuclear bazaar, the government of Pakistan argued that if there had been wrongdoing, it had occurred without the military&#8217;s knowledge or approval. Critics noted that virtually all of Khan&#8217;s overseas travels, to Iran, Libya, North Korea, Niger, Mali, and the Middle East, were on Pakistan government aircraft.</p>
<p>Then comes Osama saga.</p>
<p>For decades, the United States has made the mistake of equating &#8220;Pakistan&#8221; with its army and supporting military governments. The U.S., in the role of Lucy, has turned aid into a football. Unlike Charlie Brown, the Pakistani people, who do not benefit from this aid, have stopped trusting Lucy.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Pakistan has also played the role of Lucy, offering assistance in the war on terror. While Pakistan has been helpful and the country&#8217;s people have suffered immeasurably as a result of brutal and ongoing terrorist attacks, the army and the ISI, like Lucy, have at times been too clever by half. Despite outward signs that aid will continue to flow to Pakistan&#8217;s military, there are growing signs that the U.S. is tired of playing the Charlie Brown role.</p>
<p>Charlie Brown never stopped trying to kick the football. Hope triumphed over experience. Can the same be said for the future of U.S. &#8211; Pak relations?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bin Ladin is dead. Again. In the last ten years he has been reported &#8220;killed&#8221; at least four times. The only difference this time was that the President of the United States announced the death of the number one terrorist in the world. Above all, this time he was killed not in Tora Bora, not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bin Ladin is dead. Again. In the last ten years he has been reported &#8220;killed&#8221; at least four times. The only difference this time was that the President of the United States announced the death of the number one terrorist in the world. Above all, this time he was killed not in Tora Bora, not Karra Kurrum, but Abbottabad &#8211; close to an army garrison in Pakistan. As expected, his killing has raised questions, and more questions, and still more questions every time a new statement is added to the swirl of fact and myth that is turning the bin Laden raid into the stuff of legend.  </p>
<p>Basically, a foreign national has been killed by another foreign army. What does Pakistan have to do with this, then? Nothing and everything. And this nothing yet everything has placed Pakistan between a rock and a hard place. </p>
<p>If Pakistan admits that it helped US forces <span id="more-59037"></span>kill bin Laden it fears a backlash from the different militant organizations with in its boundaries, and if it denies any such cooperation then it will be labeled a supporter of Al Qaeda.</p>
<p>For this reason Pakistan &#8211; which is defined as the Pakistan Army and the agencies, including the infamous ISI &#8211; stayed silent. So silent that it&#8217;s scary. It&#8217;s the silence before the storm. This storm is not necessarily directed at the US, the CIA, Afghanistan or India. The tempest could be directed at foreign militants. Remaining silent was a wise approach and the best strategy so far for Pakistan. Be aware of that silence.  The pendulum could swing either way.  The forces that actually control Pakistan &#8212; and I&#8217;m not referring to politicians &#8212;  could back any horse at this point.  Or spread the wager across the board. Only time will tell. </p>
<p>The US media has been hammering Pakistan day and night. The media should consider Pakistan&#8217;s tight spot here.  The US needs help, not just rooting terrorist networks out of Pakistan but in Afghanistan as well.  It&#8217;s not easy for a country to sustain repeated bombardments, knowing that it depends on the country doing the bombing for large quantities of foreign aid.  Already, a number of politicians and the Pakistani media are defining the bin Laden raid as another example of infringement of sovereignty and using bin Laden&#8217;s death to goad the US to pull out of Afghanistan.  Rock, meet hard place. If only the US media understood that.  </p>
<p>Then there have been conflicting reports coming out of various US departments. But the fact is that the raid could not have succeeded without the ISI&#8217;s help. Clearly bin Laden&#8217;s time was up.  Given the ISI&#8217;s deserved reputation for treachery and intrigues,  wouldn&#8217;t there have been a strong and deep bunker under that mansion to hide bin Laden?  Or a maze of tunnels to help him and his family escape? Bin Laden was trapped, with the local support on the ground. </p>
<p>Obama said last night that he got confirmed reports of bin Laden&#8217;s location last week. I looked out for events that happened last week. President Obama was busy dealing with Trump&#8217;s nonsense, while the Pentagon was hosting ISI chief General Pasha. Coincidence? I don&#8217;t think so. There must have been a deal, a tit for tat.  </p>
<p>Pakistan&#8217;s religious quarters have already started to question then authenticity of the killing. Above all, they have started asking US to wrap up their &#8220;war&#8221; and leave the region. Which again the US or NATO cannot afford to do. Not yet at least. The US has to deal with Afghanistan, Karzai, the Taliban, the Quetta shura&#8230;and the list goes on. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s not get carried away here. The war is not over yet. Bin Laden killing has improved Obama&#8217;s approval ratings, but bin Laden&#8217;s death has hardly put a dent on al Qaeda. Keeping in mind that Al Qaeda&#8217;s's real ideological inspiration is al-Zuwahiri, who&#8217;s still very much alive. And probably on the ISI&#8217;s watch list too. </p>
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		<title>Osama bin Laden, Sleeps With the Fishes **UPDATED**</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update below the fold. I had another post all ready to go this morning of Lara Logan&#8217;s interview on &#8220;60 Minutes,&#8221; but that can keep until tomorrow. Today, the big news, as President Obama announced late last night, Osama bin Laden has been killed. The reports have been a bit conflicting on just how he [...]]]></description>
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<p>I had another post all ready to go this morning of Lara Logan&#8217;s interview on &#8220;60 Minutes,&#8221; but that can keep until tomorrow. Today, the big news, as President Obama announced late last night, Osama bin Laden has been killed.</p>
<p>The reports have been a bit conflicting on just how he died, however. Initially, reports stated <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/bin-laden-dead_b_856094.html">he had been killed by a drone attack last week</a>, and that they had kept his body to determine through DNA analysis that it was indeed him.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s <a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/158515-osama-bin-laden-is-dead-obama-announces">statement to the nation</a>, though, claimed that he had (reaffirmed) the order to the CIA to get bin Laden (Bush initially gave the order), and that bin Laden was killed yesterday. Now we are told it was a <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-inside-raid-that-killed-him_n_856158.html">Navy Seal who took him down</a>, on a mission aided by CIA intel, as well as information gleamed from Khalid Sheik Muhammad at Gitmo. Apparently, the Pakistanis aided the US in this mission as well. </p>
<p>Following are excerpts of <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/05/02/remarks-president-osama-bin-laden">Obama&#8217;s remarks</a> on this historic event (and I am glad he was finally able to use the word, &#8220;terrorist,&#8221; since it was one he and his Administration have worked hard not to use. Ahem.):<span id="more-59004"></span></p>
<blockquote><p> &#8220;Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda, and a terrorist who&#8217;s responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory &#8212; hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.</p>
<p>&#8220;And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child&#8217;s embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.</p>
<p>&#8220;On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, <span style="font-weight:bold;">what God we prayed to</span> (emphasis mine &#8211; you knew it was coming, right?), or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.</p>
<p>&#8220;We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda &#8212; an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against al Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.</p>
<p>&#8220;Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we&#8217;ve made great strides in that effort. We&#8217;ve disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, al Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.</p>
<p>&#8220;And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.</p>
<p>&#8220;Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.</p>
<p>&#8220;Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.</p></blockquote>
<p>I admit, while watching this, I was waiting for Obama to say, &#8220;I just returned from Pakistan where I, personally, took out Osama bin Laden, with the help of our military. And you thought George Bush was a cowboy. He doesn&#8217;t have anything on me.&#8221; Sorry, but there were just a few too many &#8220;I&#8221;&#8216;s in there for someone who has downplayed the whole issue of terrorism.</p>
<p>Yes, he gave the command to proceed, which is good. Yet many are acting as if this is showing great leadership on his part, while to me, it seems like a no-brainer. I mean, really &#8211; have our expectations of him sunk so low that the opportunity to take out this mastermind of terror is seen as a sign of &#8220;leadership&#8221;? Wow.</p>
<p>Back to the comments:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;For over two decades, bin Laden has been al Qaeda&#8217;s leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation&#8217;s effort to defeat al Qaeda.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There&#8217;s no doubt that al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must &#8212; and we will &#8212; remain vigilant at home and abroad.</p>
<p>&#8220;As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not &#8212; and never will be &#8212; at war with Islam. I&#8217;ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hillary Clinton just made the point that bin Laden killed many Muslims, too, just as Obama did, and that bin Laden had made threats against Pakistanis themselves. One can make of that what one will&#8230;</p>
<p>More from Obama:<br />
<blockquote>[snip] &#8220;Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.</p>
<p>&#8220;The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who&#8217;s been gravely wounded.</p>
<p>&#8220;So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defense of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to al Qaeda&#8217;s terror: Justice has been done.</p>
<p>&#8220;Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who&#8217;ve worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.</p>
<p>&#8220;We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.</p>
<p>&#8220;Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.[snip]</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a bit more to this speech, and you can <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/05/02/remarks-president-osama-bin-laden">click here</a> to read it. </p>
<p>Can I just say, though, listening and watching Obama last night really puts a lie to the meme that he is such a great speaker. He isn&#8217;t. His speech was stilted and halting, with a number of mistakes as he read the teleprompter. It was blatantly clear that he was &#8211; you could watch his eyes move. </p>
<p>I am confused as to why they chose to bury bin Laden at sea, and so quickly. I would have thought they would want to perform an autopsy, recover the bullet that killed him, see if he really was ill, all of that. So that choice is interesting to me. Why the rush to dispose of him? Oh, wait &#8211; here is why &#8211; it is in keeping <a href="http://video.foxnews.com/v/4671934/first-responder-on-news-of-bin-ladens-death#/v/4671932/burial-at-sea-for-bin-laden/?playlist_id=87485">with Islamic tradition</a>. </p>
<p>Huh? Okay, so Obama makes it crystal clear that bin Laden was not a Muslim leader. However, we do know he was the leader of Al Qaeda, a Muslim organization, but alright. Interesting distinction Obama (and Clinton) are making here. Still,we finally get this mass murderer, we have his body, and we forgo obtaining some answers to uphold his religious tradition? Wow. What do you think about that? Is it an attempt to stave off more attacks? </p>
<p>If so, that is a bit misguided. We KNOW there will be reprisals from Al Qaeda as a result,as <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-05-02/killing-of-bin-laden-hailed-as-officials-prepare-for-reprisals.html">Leon Panetta has acknowledged </a>we can expect. Honestly, these people are bound and determined to get us anyway, so taking out this one man who has caused so much damage to our great nation is a reason to be thankful, even if one abhors violence, or killing for any reason. </p>
<p>Bringing justice to this man who has done so much damage to our nation as a result of the tireless efforts of our intelligence community and our highly trained military, is a good day. Thanks to all of those who have worked to this end, though it is not an end to the war on terrorism. Bin Laden may be gone, but there are others out there wishing us harm. Our military and intelligence officers continue to have their work cut out for them, regardless of Obama taking the credit for this, it belongs, IMHO, to those who were on the ground. Well done.</p>
<p>There is a video I want to share with you. It is an impromptu celebration at Ground Zero after learning of bin Laden&#8217;s demise. This pretty much says it all, though there are many good videos out there of interviews with family members of those lost on 9/11, and first responders. I urge you to take a look and listen when you have time. Until then, I leave you with this:</p>
<p><iframe width="425 height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/75ljXyGIMwY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>UPDATE: A few of you have been kind enough to provide links regarding why <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42859914">Osama bin Laden was buried at sea</a>. Here are the pertinent facts:<br />
<blockquote>[snip] The official described the procedure to NBC News as follows:</p>
<p>    * The deceased&#8217;s body was washed and then placed in a white sheet.<br />
    * The body was placed in a weighted bag.<br />
    * A military officer read prepared religious remarks that were translated into Arabic by a native speaker.<br />
    * After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased&#8217;s body eased into the sea from the USS Carl Vinson.</p>
<p>The rites sparked a debate about Islamic customs, with some Muslim clerics calling the procedure humiliating and others saying it was proper.</p>
<p>A U.S. official said that the burial decision was made after concluding that it would have been difficult to find a country willing to accept the remains. There also was speculation about worry that a grave site could have become a rallying point for militants.</p>
<p>President Barack Obama said the remains had been handled in accordance with Islamic custom, which requires speedy burial. [snip]</p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, so there weren&#8217;t a lot of countries willing to accept his body. There is cremation, after all.</p>
<p>And how do you feel that so much care was taken to prepare his body according to Islamic tradition? Wow&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[* Bumped Up * (Or the more offensive, homophobic term for Tea Partiers.) Crosshairs! Targets! The list could go on of the labels attached to groups of people or concepts by the media when they want to discount, demean, belittle, discourage discussion, demonize a group, or frame the issue how they want it to be, [...]]]></description>
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<p>(Or the more offensive, homophobic term for Tea Partiers.)  Crosshairs!  Targets!</p>
<p>The list could go on of the labels attached to groups of people or concepts by the media when they want to discount, demean, belittle, discourage discussion, demonize a group, or frame the issue how they want it to be, rather than how it is.  </p>
<p>We saw this just recently with pundits rushing to frame the Tucson shootings as ratcheted up Republican rhetoric &#8211; falsely, as the facts later showed &#8211; from big time sources like the NY Times (<a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/assassination-attempt-in-arizona/">Paul Krugman</a>), Huffington Post <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/arizona-shootings-our-mom_b_807104.html?ref=fb&#038;src=sp#sb=683077,b=facebook">(Arianna herself</a>), DailyKos, and on and on.  The shooting of Rep. Giffords and the other 18 victims was immediately put in the context of Republican political rhetoric being to blame for the actions of the shooter within a few hours of the event.  Now, even though this meme has been proven wrong, pundits continue to say things like, &#8220;rightly or wrongly, the issue of civility is now front and center.&#8221;  Well, it is WRONGLY, but every time they mention it, they continue to perpetuate this false meme.  Civility had nothing to do with it at all, but now, whenever this issue comes up, like Pavlov and his dogs, that is what we think.<br />
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This ratchet response, ingrained in us by the media, is coming up again this week in terms of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate.  A couple of articles have surfaced in which the <a href="http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=252833">Governor of Hawaii, Neil Abercrombie</a>, in an attempt to dispel once and for all the allegations that Obama is not a natural born citizen, was unable to find his birth certificate.  Oops.  Apparently, there is a notation of Obama&#8217;s birth, but no long form has surfaced.</p>
<p>Additionally, a former <a href="http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=254401">Hawaii elections official, Tim Adams</a>, has sworn, under oath, that neither hospital in Honolulu has a record of Obama&#8217;s birth.  He doesn&#8217;t stop there &#8211; he goes on to say he was told there was no long form, and also to stop mucking around in this issue.</p>
<p>I am not getting into whether or not Obama is, or is not, a natural born citizen.  That is not the point here.  Check your response to what I wrote.  Even bringing up this issue, no matter how or what has been discovered, is generally discounted as a crazy conspiracy theory, and that it is CRAZY to even mention it.  </p>
<p>And that is because that is what we have been told by the media to think (pant, pant, pany, as Pavlov&#8217;s dog would do).  The mere mention of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate brings derision and scorn upon whomever has the temerity to mention it.  For the first time, for as long as I can remember, a presidential candidate was not required to present this document, one routinely required for a number of less important jobs.  Yet requesting this one piece of paper has created a maelstrom of gigantic proportions.  </p>
<p>We all know that by the mere fact of requesting this document, the requester is crazy.  The media told us so.  So, there.</p>
<p>Just like they told us Hillary was a cold, heartless Iron Bitch.</p>
<p>Just like they told us Sarah Palin was at the root of the Tucson shootings, or is a crazy &#8220;Mama Grizzly,&#8221; or that she could see Russia from her house (i.e., she&#8217;s stupid, got it?  C&#8217;mon, only a MO-RON would think something like that.  Never mind she never said it.  Picky, picky.).</p>
<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ohjlmIeE2rI/TUBLa57aoFI/AAAAAAAAAzw/j1r4TH3_Owo/s1600/Allen%2BWest.jpg"><img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 221px; height: 320px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ohjlmIeE2rI/TUBLa57aoFI/AAAAAAAAAzw/j1r4TH3_Owo/s320/Allen%2BWest.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5566532065028644946" /></a>Just like they told us Tea Partiers are a bunch of racist yahoos (someone might want to tell Representatives Tim Scott and <a href="http://sarahpalininternetcoalitionblogger.blogspot.com/2010/03/sarah-palin-endorses-lt-col-allen-west.html">Col. Allen West</a> that they are racists for belonging to the Tea Party. Ahem.).</p>
<p>I am sure you get the idea.  The media is not reporting the news, they are shaping what they want people to believe.  Even now, CNN and MSNBC continue to perpetuate this whole civility/Republican rhetoric meme for the Tucson shootings, regardless of the facts.  That is not news &#8211; that is propaganda.</p>
<p>We learned of the <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/20/documents-show-media-plotting-to-kill-stories-about-rev-jeremiah-wright/">JournoListers coordinating efforts</a> to advance Obama&#8217;s candidacy for president, keeping important stories that might impact his chances out of their respective mediums.  That was behind closed doors.  </p>
<p>But now, media personalities are getting more blatant about it.  Just recently, the Washington Post&#8217;s Dana Milbank calls out for a &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/20/AR2011012004349.html">Palin-Free February</a>.&#8221;  Yes, he has put a call out to his fellow commentators to not write or talk about Sarah Palin at all in the month of February.</p>
<p>Now, what kind of responsible journalist, or commentator, for that matter, would even consider such an action, except to continue to shape opinion about this figure?  In his article (which you can read if you really want to give him the traffic), he makes some other (predictable) snide comments about Sarah Palin.  That is the meme, after all &#8211; she is to be derided, demeaned, and ridiculed at every step, dontcha know, lest anyone start to take her seriously as a potential candidate.  We cannot have THAT, after all.  Rather than straight reporting, or basing commentary on, oh, I don&#8217;t know, let&#8217;s say, FACTS, now we just make shit up as if the person said or did it, then attack him/her for it mercilessly until the person become a mere caricature, and should anyone else still actually like them, they are nothing but a bunch of ignorant gun-totin&#8217; hayseeds who likely don&#8217;t have a row to hoe anyway, so who cares what they think?  Stupid heads.</p>
<p>And that is where our media is today.  They set up these ratchet responses to labels, and dare anyone to stray from their definition or their insistence on who/what those labels represent, tearing down anyone who is foolish enough to disagree.  They attack, deride, persecute until the person breaks, then respond with a, &#8220;see??  We TOLD you they were x, y, z&#8230;&#8221;  They create the meme, then do everything in their power to make it true.  </p>
<p>So, I reckon since I mentioned the whole Obama Birth Certificate thing now, no matter what I did or did not say, I will, forever after, be labeled a Birther.  So, what the hell &#8211; for good measure, the government carried out 9/11!!!  They did!  There is no evidence of a plane at the Pentagon!  Tea Party members are racist America-haters!  Sarah Palin is personally responsible for the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords, and should be thrown in jail immediately!!!  (Snark, snark, snark &#8211; just in case that was not abundantly clear.)</p>
<p>Hey, if you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em, right?  Wrong.  We must stop this insanity with our media.  When (formerly) great newspapers like the Washington Post and the New York Times become rumor-mongering rags, we are in serious trouble.  Legitimate questions deserve legitimate answers, not derision.  Serious investigative journalism must be restored to our media outlets, not regurgitating press releases from this or that party. Rather than allowing loud-mouthed pundits to determine the news, how about having some actual journalists (if you can still find them) to report the news, rather than craft the news?  We must stop allowing them to silence us if we do not agree with their manufactured outrage and meme.</p>
<p>Just a thought. But hey, I am just a Birther/Truther/Tea Partier/Mama Grizzly Wannabe/Crosshair Target-er. So what do I know?!</p>
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		<title>Did NPR Surrender To a Radical Group&#8217;s Demand for Political Correctness?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[* Bumped up * Many have written about the abrupt firing of NPR and Fox News commentator, Juan Williams, for comments Mr. Williams made regarding Muslims on a recent Bill O&#8217;Reilly program. There is no need for me to duplicate their worthy efforts (Bronwyn&#8217;s Harbor of NQ has two very good posts on the incident, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Many have written about the abrupt firing of NPR and Fox News commentator, Juan Williams, for comments Mr. Williams made regarding Muslims on a recent Bill O&#8217;Reilly program.  There is no need for me to duplicate their worthy efforts (Bronwyn&#8217;s Harbor of <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2010/10/21/breaking-juan-williams-fired-by-npr/">NQ has two</a> very <a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2010/10/21/what-a-day-open-thread/">good posts</a> on the incident, and some of the fall-out of the firing. <a href="http://logisticsmonster.com/2010/10/21/juan-williams-chilling-free-speech-in-america/">Logistics Monster</a> has two great posts, too, one highlighting the issue of free speech, and following the money with C.A.I.R., the other has <a href="http://logisticsmonster.com/2010/10/21/bill-oreilly-blasts-npr-over-williams-firing-10-21-2010/">Bill O&#8217;Reilly speaking</a> out.).  </p>
<p>I do not always agree with Mr. Williams, but what happened to him is simply unacceptable, especially since NPR apparently caved to pressure from the Muslim organization, C.A.I.R., about  which <a href="https://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/10/21/the-national-pravda-radio-firing-of-juan-williams/">Uppity Women commented</a> in her inimitable style:<br />
<blockquote>You remember CAIR don’t you? The organization whose founder said he thought SHARIA Law in the USA would be great and Islam is not in America to be equal but to dominate? CAIR, the organization accused of having ties to Islamofascism? That CAIR?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep.  That C.A.I.R.  </p>
<p>Well, it turns out that not everyone is so happy with C.A.I.R&#8217;s insistence, and NPR&#8217;s caving, as this article in the Daily Caller by Caroline May indicates, <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/muslims-speak-out-against-nprs-political-correctness/2/">Muslims Speak Out Against NPR’s Political Correctness</a>:<br />
<blockquote>While a Muslim advocacy group, the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), was instrumental in getting National Public Radio (NPR) to fire Juan Williams, some Muslims are speaking out against succumbing to the censorship of political correctness.</p>
<p>Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, took issue with those who wrap themselves in feel-good sensitivity, <span style="font-weight:bold;">while denying the fact that the majority of terrorists are Muslim</span>. (Emphasis mine.)<br />
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Indeed, the threat is real enough even for Fatah, a liberal Muslim, who looks at women in burkas with skepticism. “I am scared when I see women in burkas, how do I know what is behind that?” Fatah said, noting that many Muslims share his concerns.</p>
<p>“We are victims of these guys. A number of suicide bombers who have attacked have killed people [while] wearing the burka,” Fatah said. “This is the truth, we should be speaking the truth rather than what people expect us to say. ”</p>
<p>Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, told The Daily Caller that though Williams could have been more tactful, his ouster is symptomatic of the problems Americans continue to face when discussing Islam.</p>
<p>“As much as the way he said it was poorly chosen, the era we find ourselves — of political correctness — we are not able to address what this fear is,” Jasser said. “Anybody that starts talking about this fear gets shut down.”</p></blockquote>
<p>No kidding.  Those of us who have tried to discuss the building of a mosque chosen for both its proximity to the World Trade Towers and because it had part of one of the planes fall on it, know this all too well.  Heck, Bill O&#8217;Reilly (of whom I am not a fan) had <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/10/14/2010-10-14_views_whoopi_goldberg_joy_behar_walk_off_live_set_after_bill_oreilly_ground_zero.html">Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg storm off the set </a>of The View for his FACTUAL comment that the atrocities of 9/11 were perpetrated by Muslims.  What the heck?  9/11 WAS committed by Muslims &#8211; there is simply no denying that reality!  What does it serve Behar and Goldberg, or anyone, for that matter, to try and revise that reality?  They were extremists, sure, but they committed these acts as a RESULT of their Muslim beliefs.  Not all Muslims support that belief, but to deny that many do is just childish.</p>
<p>So, how are all of these &#8220;politically correct&#8221; folks going to deal with MUSLIMS saying they, too, get nervous when they see women in burkas because there is no telling what they might be hiding?  When Muslims acknowledge that, yes, the people who committed these acts, these people who continue to plan and plot against us, are Muslims?  </p>
<p>How in the world can NPR legitimately report news if they are unwilling to accept that, say Major Nassan, the Army psychiatrist who gunned down a number of his fellow soldiers, did so as a Muslim?  Or the Times Square bomber, who, despite failing at his task, &#8220;<a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2023483,00.html">spoke with pride</a>&#8221; about his attempt to kill people because he is a Muslim?  You know the one, <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39513363/ns/us_news-security">Shahzad, just sentenced to life</a> for this attempt, who said, &#8220;<span style="font-weight:bold;">Brace yourselves, because the war with Muslims has just begun</span>&#8221; (emphasis mine)?  </p>
<p>If NPR (and others) are willing to subject free speech, how in the WORLD can they be considered a reputable news source, especially when the opinions expressed by Mr. Williams are some shared by liberal Muslims themselves?  Or when there are Muslim extremists flat out telling us to brace ourselves?</p>
<p>The reality of Muslim extremists targeting us was emphasized again in this article:<br />
<blockquote>[snip] According to Jasser, the fact that the vast majority of national security threats emanate from the Muslim world makes Williams’ fear reasonable. Without open discussion, however, those concerns will never be conquered.</p>
<p>“I think that ultimately what we find when many thought leaders try to talk about it, [they say] ‘well there are some common elements to those who threaten national security,’ and the only one so far they have been able to nail down is that they come from some form of Islamic theology,’” Jasser said. “And because we have not become skilled in discussing theo-political threats, you’re having a lot of these little skirmishes happening.” </p>
<p>[snip]</p>
<p>Stephen Schwartz, executive director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, echoed Fatah and Jasser. Schwartz told TheDC that he and his organization opposed NPR’s reaction to Williams’ comments.</p>
<p>“Mr. Williams is basically an opinion journalist and he offered an opinion based on an undeniable reality: American Muslims have so far failed in our duty to prevent negative perceptions among our non-Muslim neighbors, and many, unfortunately, have taken the existing concerns among non-Muslims as a challenge to assert Muslim identity more aggressively, through forms of dress as well as speech that are often extravagant and excessive,” Schwartz wrote in an e-mail to TheDC.</p>
<p>“Mr. Williams spoke to this reality in an understated, candid way. He did not express hatred or incite violence against Muslims. He should not have been dismissed.” (Click<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/21/muslims-speak-out-against-nprs-political-correctness/print/#ixzz136Ir3hD7"> HERE to read</a> the rest.) </p></blockquote>
<p>What does it serve NPR, or Joy Behar, or any of the other &#8220;PC&#8221; people to deny the realty with which we are currently living?  It is one thing for Behar and Goldberg to storm off the set of an opinion show, but NPR is SUPPOSED to be a reputable news outlet, not one subject to the so-called politically correct demands of a radical organization.  The reaction of NPR says WAY more about them than Juan Williams&#8217; comment says about him.  They have allowed themselves to be manipulated, and seem intent on revising our history of just who attacked us on 9/11, and why.  </p>
<p>Should we fear all Muslims?  Certainly not.  But should we deny that it was, indeed, Muslims who attacked us on 9/11, shot our soldiers down at Fort Hood, tried to cause serious damage and loss of life in New York City&#8217;s Time Square?  Hell, no.  And that is basically what Juan Williams was saying.  Perhaps he said it inexpertly, but his reasoning was sound.  We have legitimate reasons to be suspicious of certain groups from their own mouths (Shahzad, for example), and to pretend otherwise is sheer folly.  </p>
<p>NPR should be ashamed of how it handled this situation, and that it allowed itself to be used by one organization whose motives are well documented.  They are an embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>The Conversation Continues&#8230;**Update**</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[**update &#8211; &#8220;Amy&#8217;s surgery went well and she now has a brand new titanium right knee!  Thanks to all for your good thoughts and prayers today.&#8221;** Well, this will be my last post for a while. Again, I want to thank everyone for their warm support and encouragement of me as I prepare to have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>**update &#8211; &#8220;Amy&#8217;s surgery went well and she now has a brand new titanium right knee!  Thanks to all for your good thoughts and prayers today.&#8221;**</strong></em></p>
<p>Well, this will be my last post for a while.  Again, I want to thank everyone for their warm support and encouragement of me as I prepare to have my knee replaced on September 9th.  It means more to me than I can say.</p>
<p>Before I go, I want to highlight a few of the issues that we have been discussing over the past few months.  First up is the Cordoba House, the mosque Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf wants to build close to Ground Zero.  Rauf penned an <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/opinion/08mosque.html?_r=1&amp;partner=rss&amp;emc=rss">Op-Ed for the NY Times</a> on the mosque, and the desire to build it there (though it seems short on an explanation of why there).  Below is a dialogue between Bill Hemmer and Father Jonathan Morris:</p>
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I think Father Morris summed it up when he said that along with rights, comes respect (paraphrasing there).  Rauf&#8217;s editorial may appear to be rational and reasonable, but there seem to be a few digs in there, to be sure.  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/opinion/08mosque.html?_r=1&amp;partner=rss&amp;emc=rss">Read it for yourself</a> and decide.</p>
<p>Next up is the issue of Obamacare, and what it is going to mean to us in the short run.  Oh, I think you can guess &#8211; it is going to cost us more money.  Surprise!!!  Except it isn&#8217;t to those of <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/03/17/shocking-ap-fact-check-premiums-will-rise-under-obamacare">us who were paying</a> attention.  We knew this was going to cost more money than save it, and we knew the numbers the Democrats used to get this passed were, um, inaccurate.  So, get ready to empty out your wallets:</p>
<p><script src="http://video.foxnews.com/v/embed.js?id=4331935&amp;w=425&amp;h=300" type="text/javascript"></script><noscript>Watch the latest video at <a href="http://video.foxnews.com">video.foxnews.com</a></noscript></p>
<p>Then there is Obama&#8217;s homage to the Unions with his new $50 billion proposal.  Why is it an homage to the unions?  Because the money is supposed to go for infrastructure purposes.  Which is fine &#8211; we need that.  But, as you may recall, in February, 2009, Obama signed an order that federal contracts have to look to the unions first.  And only 16% of construction workers are unionized.  Soooooo &#8211; this $50 billion is just a payback to his major supporters.  It also costs more, according to this <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/11/AR2009021103953.html">Washington Post </a>article.  Wheee!!!!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Stuart Varney to fill us in on the details:</p>
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<p>Well, I&#8217;ve said it before, and I&#8217;ll say it again &#8211; the unions are sure getting their money&#8217;s worth, aren&#8217;t they?   Not so much the rest of us, though.  Ha &#8211; there&#8217;s a surprise.</p>
<p>Finally, the 9th anniversary of 9/11 is just a few days away.  I want to leave you with this story about the World Trade Towers then, and what they plan for the future:</p>
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<p>Brings tears to my eyes.  I love the waterfalls they have planned in the foot prints of the towers.  They are beautiful &#8211; soothing, yet strong.</p>
<p>What a day that was, one we will not soon forget.  At least I hope we do not&#8230;</p>
<p>Again, thank you all for your loving support.  It means the world to me.  You will be in my heart while I am away.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is what people who claim there are mosques four blocks away from Ground Zero, so what&#8217;s the big deal with building one near Ground Zero? How far is far enough to suit these Islamaphobic bigots anyway? That is just apples and oranges &#8211; yes, there is a mosque four blocks away from Ground Zero, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what people who claim there are mosques four blocks away from Ground Zero, so what&#8217;s the big deal with building one near Ground Zero?  How far is far enough to suit these Islamaphobic bigots anyway?</p>
<p>That is just apples and oranges &#8211; yes, there is a <a href=" http://immigration.change.org/blog/view/the_ground_zero_mosque_thats_already_there">mosque four blocks away </a>from Ground Zero, but it has been there for DECADES.  Its site was not chosen specifically because it was close to an area targeted by Islamic extremists.  The Masjid Manhattan was not chosen precisely because [art of the landing gear of a jet that had been turned into a WMD fell into it, as was the case for the Park 51 mosque.  There is a world of difference between the two.  It is disconcerting that people like Alex DiBranco, who wrote the article linked above, or since you've probably not heard of him, <a href="http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&#038;orgId=574&#038;topicId=100007214&#038;docId=l:1252387343&#038;isRss=true">Mara Liasson of NPR</a>, who made that argument Monday, 8/30, on Fox News All Stars:<br />
<blockquote>[snip] Right, the critics of the project do have a responsibility to say where in Manhattan it would be OK, because there is a mosque four blocks from ground zero, currently. Would they like that one moved?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s just the location, and it&#8217;s not the fact that a mosque is being built, where would it be OK? On Staten Island, the upper west side? Where would it be OK? Because there have been other anti-mosque demonstrations elsewhere around the country that are very far from ground zero.</p>
<p>So I think it&#8217;s important for the people against this to be extremely clear about exactly what they&#8217;re against.[snip]</p></blockquote>
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Well, gosh, Ms. Liasson, I think people have been EXTREMELY clear about why they do not want this mosque built in that location by this developer and why.  </p>
<p>Good grief.  There is a serious lack of logic operating there (or rather, not operating).  How can these people be so obtuse?  Is it intentional, or do they really not see there is a huge difference between the two?</p>
<p>The same goes for Obama and his ridiculous, uh, I mean, &#8220;brilliant&#8221; statement to the effect if <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38907780/ns/nightly_news">Jews wanted to build a synagogue there, or Christians</a> a church, a Hindu temples, etc., that should be A-Okay.  No problem with that at all.  Well, for once I agree with him, but not because of the conflation and distortion he is utilizing, but because, yes, those groups should be able to build near Ground Zero if they wish (or perhaps an interfaith center to house them all).  Why?  Because THEY DID NOT MURDER THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS as a direct result of their faith (distortion that it may be).  That&#8217;s why. </p>
<p>Jews, Christians, Hindis, Buddhists, Wiccans, any other group you can think of, did not pick a location close to where a group affiliated with their religion murdered thousands of people BECAUSE it was close to that site.  </p>
<p>And it wasn&#8217;t their first attack on that site, either, though too many people seem quick to forget that.  This was the second time in less than ten years that Muslims attacked the World Trade Towers.  Again, they weren&#8217;t terrorists who happened to be Muslims, but because of their particular belief system, were terrorists because they were Muslims.</p>
<p>Just yesterday, we had <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/united-flight-arrested-terror-charges-amsterdam/story?id=11517664">two more Muslims from Detroit</a>picked up in Amsterdam who were conducting a dry run to see if they could get materials on board a US flight.  The scary thing is, they were able to do so.  There was the &#8220;<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-02-03-airline-suspect-cooperation_N.htm">Christmas Day</a>&#8221; bomber.  The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/02/nyregion/02timessquare.html">NYC bomber</a>.  There are Muslim extremists planning &#8211; actively planning &#8211; to do us harm.  </p>
<p>Of course, that does not mean all Muslims are bad, or out to get our country.  We understand that, too.  But to continue to deny that there ARE terrorists out there who want to harm the US because of their Muslim faith is the worst kind of &#8220;tolerance.&#8221;  That isn&#8217;t &#8220;tolerance,&#8221; that is stupidity. </p>
<p>So, yes, there are over 100 mosques in New York City.  We know this. That&#8217;s fine.  Whatever.  And yes, there is one four blocks away that was built decades ago.  So?  All these folks making that point, or what they think is a point, just need to stop trying to act like its the same thing.  It is not.  </p>
<p>As I have said before, it is about decency and compassion for those who lost loved ones at Ground Zero, and for the whole country, which may not ever fully heal from that attack on our soil.  Conflating this one mosque being built (by a developer with a rap sheet a mile long, I might add) near Ground Zero in a building that had part of the jet land in it has absolutely NOTHING to do with where other mosques are, especially ones that have been there for decades.  Nor does it have anything to do with other religious faiths being able to build near Ground Zero.  </p>
<p>These are red herrings, obfuscations, the sole purpose of which is to deny the reality of what happened at Ground Zero through the appearance of &#8220;tolerance.&#8221;  Maybe Mara Liasson can forget it.  Maybe President Obama can forget it.  But the <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/113747-poll-public-strongly-opposes-ground-zero-mosque-">majority of Americans</a> cannot, have not, and will not.</p>
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		<title>Does Anyone Else Find This Ironic? *Updated*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, yes, more about the whole mosque thing in New York, though this is about a different aspect of it. And that would be our First Amendment right to free speech. Remember how Obama went on and on about the mosque-builders and freedom of religion, as if this had anything whatsoever to do with freedom [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, more about the whole mosque thing in New York, though this is about a different aspect of it.  And that would be our First Amendment right to free speech.</p>
<p>Remember how <a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_694946.html">Obama went on and on about the mosque-builders </a>and freedom of religion, as if this had anything whatsoever to do with freedom of religion?  I know, I know, how could anyone forget THAT little debacle.</p>
<p>But get this.  Now the concern is about those of us who are speaking OUT about building the mosque near Ground Zero are inciting terrorists.  Yes, if we have the audacity to be upset that Imam Rauf wants to build his cultural center and mosque at a site he picked <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html?_r=1&#038;pagewanted=all">SOLELY for its proximity to Ground Zero</a> and as a site that was hit by part of the jet that disintegrated flying into the Twin Towers, we are empowering the terrorists.  </p>
<p>Oh, how I wish I was making this up, but it was reported by no less than NPR in this piece by Dina Temple-Raston, &#8220;<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129387963">Rancor Over Mosque Could Fuel Islamic Extremists</a>.&#8221;  Oh, oh &#8211; someone didn&#8217;t get the memo that we don&#8217;t use that term anymore &#8211; &#8220;Islamic Extremists.&#8221;  What, are they bigots or something?  Ahem.  Anyway, yes, by us utilizing our Constitutional Right Of Free Speech, we are giving ammunition to the Islamic Extremists who want to do us harm, according to this article:<br />
<blockquote>Experts worry the controversy surrounding an Islamic center near ground zero in Lower Manhattan is playing right into the hands of radical extremists.<span id="more-49481"></span></p>
<p>The supercharged debate over the proposed center has attracted the attention of a quiet, underground audience — young Muslims who drift in and out of jihadi chat rooms and frequent radical Islamic sites on the Web. It has become the No. 1 topic of discussion in recent days and proof positive, according to some of the posted messages, that America is indeed at war with Islam.</p>
<p>&#8220;This, unfortunately, is playing right into their hands,&#8221; said Evan F. Kohlmann, who tracks these kinds of websites and chat rooms for Flashpoint Global partners, a New York-based security firm. &#8220;Extremists are encouraging all this, with glee.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is their sense that by doing this that Americans are going to alienate American Muslims to the point where even relatively moderate Muslims are going to be pushed into joining extremist movements like al-Qaida. They couldn&#8217;t be happier.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, yes.  It is all our fault that we want just a little sensitivity from this Muslim cleric.  How dare we.  (And if you want to read the rest of the NPR piece, <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129387963">click HERE</a>.)</p>
<p>Hmmm &#8211; what does it say that there is a concern that even &#8220;moderate Muslims&#8221; in the US, because people are asking for sensitivity, not a pox on all things Islamic, could be coerced into acting against the country in which they live?  I can&#8217;t decide if that is a backhanded slap against moderate Muslims that they could so easily be pushed, or an attempt to silence critics in general.  </p>
<p>But here&#8217;s a little newsflash: We don&#8217;t have to do a damn thing but be Americans to incite these Islamic Extremists.  I&#8217;m serious.  All we have to do is be who we are, and that is sufficient.  Remember the first<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing"> WTC bombing in 1993</a>?  I don&#8217;t recall anyone going out of their way trash-talking Islam to incite that event.  Remember 9/11?  The WTC, the Pentagon, and whatever the target was of the plane that was wrested away from the terrorists and crashed into a field in Pennsylvania?  Was anyone going out of their way to talk smack about Islam?  No, I don&#8217;t think so.  How about the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000?  </p>
<p>If you want to get an idea of how much Islamic terrorists have wanted to attack us for a period less than a decade,  click<a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/100802hill.html"> here to read a statement</a> to the Joint Chiefs from 2002 listing the numerous terrorist attempts on the US or our territories.  That is just from 2/93 &#8211; 9/01.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I could go on and on and on.  No amount of political correctness, or respect for Islam in general, can negate the reality that there are Islamic radicals who want to attack Americans here and abroad.  And if we stop exercising our rights as American citizens to try and pacify them, to not raise their ire against us, then THEY HAVE WON.</p>
<p>If that is the case, then all of those who died in the attacks on the US Embassies, those 17 sailors who died on board the USS Cole, and the thousands who died on 9/11, did so in vain.  And that cannot stand.  </p>
<p>We cannot allow the threat of more violence to silence us, whatever the issue is.  We cannot be coerced to give up our Constitutional rights on the possibility that our fulfillment of these same rights might feel antagonistic to those who wish us harm.  We cannot stop being Americans lest we somehow, whether consciously or not, enrage a group by our sheer existence.</p>
<p>Can we?</p>
<p>*Update* Check out this interview of <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/08/24/andrea-mitchell-lectures-u-s-ground-zero-mosque-america-need-be-more">Andrea Mitchell and Ambassador Ahmed</a>.  Apparently, what we should be concerned about is how those of us who oppose the mosque in that location are going to impact President Obama&#8217;s desire to reach out to the Muslim World.  Oh, wow&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are some doozies in the news this morning. But first, in case you missed it, there was a big rally near Ground Zero on Sunday. Protesters and supporters of the mosque/cultural center plans to be built in that area showed up to make their voices heard. Clearly, this issue is not going away anytime [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some doozies in the news this morning.  But first, in case you missed it, there was a big rally near Ground Zero on Sunday.  Protesters and supporters of the mosque/cultural center plans to be built in that area showed up to make their voices heard.  Clearly, this issue is not going away anytime soon:</p>
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You know, when I saw the CNN report, I just knew that CNN was under-reporting the numbers of those opposed to the mosque being built near Ground Zero. And <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/22/new.york.mosque.protests/index.html">CNN  made it seem as if</a> there were a couple hundred protesters on BOTH sides.  I knew they were full of crap:<br />
<blockquote>[snip] Hundreds of critics and supporters of the proposed center in New York showed up despite an overcast and drizzly sky to express their views amid the national debate over the facility.</p>
<p>Police estimated that supporters of the center numbered up to 250, and critics numbered about 450 during the demonstration. [snip]</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh huh.  Nothing like inflating the numbers on one side, and deflating them on the other.  Oh, you just gotta love the LMSM (Lame Mainstream Media).  Or not.</p>
<p>By the way, if you think for one second Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf did not know that the landing gear from one of the planes flew into that building, and the relevance of it being so close to Ground Zero, you are sadly mistaken.  That is why he picked that location, and why Muslims started coming to that building to pray.  At least according to this December 8, 2009 NY Times article, &#8220;<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html?pagewanted=all">Muslim Prayers And Renewal Near Ground Zero</a>&#8220;:<br />
<blockquote>[snip]But for months now, out of the public eye, an iron gate rises every Friday afternoon, and with the outside rumblings of construction at ground zero as a backdrop, hundreds of Muslims crowd inside, facing Mecca in prayer and listening to their imam read in Arabic from the Koran.</p>
<p>The building has no sign that hints at its use as a Muslim prayer space, but these modest beginnings point to a far grander vision: an Islamic center near the city’s most hallowed piece of land that would stand as one of ground zero’s more unexpected and striking neighbors.</p>
<p>The location was precisely a key selling point for the group of Muslims who bought the building in July. A presence so close to the World Trade Center, “where a piece of the wreckage fell,” said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the cleric leading the project, “sends the opposite statement to what happened on 9/11.” [snip]  (Click <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html?pagewanted=all">here to read</a> the rest.) </p></blockquote>
<p>Nope, that site was no accident.  It was chosen PRECISELY because it is close to Ground Zero, and because part of the landing gear fell.</p>
<p>Again, to those who keep acting like this is just some random site and those opposed to it are off our rockers, here&#8217;s the proof.  From Imam Rauf&#8217;s own mouth.  Satisfied yet? Yeah, that&#8217;s about what I expected &#8211; no amount of facts will matter.  Whatever.</p>
<p>And then there is this story.  It is no secret that California has been struggling mightily with its budget and deficits.  That makes the following story even more disturbing than it would be otherwise:</p>
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<p>Have these people lost their minds?  Marble?  In a public high school?  While they are having to cut back on Education?  That is just nuts.</p>
<p>Okay, one more, if you can stand it.  This is the former head of the DNC, failed presidential candidate, and former governor, Howard Dean, giving advice to the Obama camp.  Wait until you hear it.  There is a bonus discussion about an organization funding Republicans:</p>
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<p>Oh. My. Gosh.  A bit of advice, Governor Dean &#8211; put down the Hopium pipe.  You have had way too much&#8230;</p>
<p>And George Soros doesn&#8217;t hide behind an organization?  Really?  Huh.  Is there an organization he funds that supports Democrats that has his name in it?  If so, lemme know.</p>
<p>There ya go &#8211; a few stories of the day.  Feel free to talk about these, or any other, stories. </p>
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		<dc:creator>Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might not want to be drinking coffee or anything right this moment. Why? Well, when I tell you just who the mosque supporters want to come out in support of building the mosque 60 feet from Ground Zero, whatever beverage you&#8217;re consuming may end up on your computer screen. Okay. Ready? George W. Bush. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might not want to be drinking coffee or anything right this moment. Why?  Well, when I tell you just who the mosque supporters want to come out in support of building the mosque 60 feet from Ground Zero, whatever beverage you&#8217;re consuming may end up on your computer screen.  Okay.  Ready?</p>
<p>George W. Bush.  No, really &#8211; I&#8217;m serious.  They want <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Mosque-supporters-beg-George-W-Bush-to-come-to-Obamas-rescue-100977179.html">George W. Bush to weigh in</a> on the building of this particular mosque near Ground Zero.  Would I lie to you?  No.  And wait until you see who a couple of the writers are requesting Bush&#8217;s input in this Byron York article in the <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com">Washington Examiner</a>, &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Mosque-supporters-beg-George-W-Bush-to-come-to-Obamas-rescue-100977179.html">Mosque supporters beg George W. Bush to come to Obama&#8217;s rescue</a>&#8220;:<br />
<blockquote>It&#8217;s time for W. to weigh in,&#8221; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/opinion/18dowd.html?hp">writes</a>  the New York Times&#8217; Maureen Dowd.  Bush, Dowd explains, understands  that &#8220;you can&#8217;t have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a  war on Islam.&#8221;  Dowd finds it &#8220;odd&#8221; that Obama seems less sure on that  matter.  But to set things back on the right course, she says, &#8220;W. needs  to get his bullhorn back out&#8221; &#8212; a reference to Bush&#8217;s famous &#8220;the  people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!&#8221;  speech at Ground Zero on September 14, 2001. </p>
<p>Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is also looking for an  assist from Bush.  &#8220;I…would love to hear from former President Bush on  this issue,&#8221; Robinson <a href="http://live.washingtonpost.com/eugene-robinson-0817.html">wrote</a>  Tuesday in a Post chat session.  &#8220;He held Ramadan iftar dinners in the  White House as part of a much broader effort to show that our fight  against the al-Qaeda murderers who attacked us on 9/11 was not a crusade  against Islam. He was absolutely right on this point, and it would be  helpful to hear his views.&#8221;<span id="more-49312"></span></p>
<p>And Peter Beinart, a former editor of the New Republic, is also  feeling some nostalgia for the former president.  &#8220;Words I never thought  I&#8217;d write: I pine for George W. Bush,&#8221; Beinart <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-08-17/ground-zero-mosque-controversy-america-has-disgraced-itself/">wrote</a>  Tuesday in The Daily Beast.  &#8220;Whatever his flaws, the man respected  religion, all religion.&#8221;  Beinart longs for the days when Bush &#8220;used to  say that the &#8216;war on terror&#8217; was a struggle on behalf of Muslims, decent  folks who wanted nothing more than to live free like you and me…&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on, isn&#8217;t that hilarious?  These are the same people who vilified Bush routinely, routinely!!!  And now, now that the man they supported after consuming massive amounts of Kool Aide, and smoking tons of Hopium, and shoved down our throats, refusing to do any vetting whatsoever, has made such a mess of this issue, they want BUSH to weigh in?  This is one of the funniest things I have heard in a while.  Maureen Dowd??  Eugene ROBINSON??  Oh, wow.</p>
<p>Well, someone else who has weighed in is Debra Burlingame, from the 9/11 Families.  Did she ever have something to say, especially about Madam Speaker Pelosi&#8217;s remarks about funding:</p>
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<p>Well, Ms. Burlingame certainly didn&#8217;t mince words.  Agree with her or not, there is no misunderstanding from where she is coming on this issue.</p>
<p>There is one group from whom we have not heard on this whole mosque business.  And that would be moderate Muslims.  What is their take on Imam Rauf&#8217;s building the mosque near Ground Zero?  They, too, are quite clear: don&#8217;t build it.  That is the upshot of this <a href="http://www.dailycaller.com">Daily Caller</a> article by Caroline May, &#8220;<a href=" http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/18/moderate-muslims-oppose-location-of-cordoba-mosque-%E2%80%94-on-religious-grounds/">Moderate Muslims Oppose Location of Cordoba Mosque &#8211; On Religious Grounds</a>.&#8221;  This article is well worth the read, but a <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/18/moderate-muslims-oppose-location-of-cordoba-mosque-%E2%80%94-on-religious-grounds/">few salient quotes</a>:<br />
<blockquote>[snip] Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, told TheDC that moderate Muslims have been silent on the matter, despite possible disagreements, due to religious concerns. According to Fatah, however, the need to avoid causing another person pain should trump such conflicts.</p>
<p>“There is a widespread belief among Muslim teaching that anyone who opposes the construction of a mosque, which is the house of God, is committing a sin,” he said. “So a lot of people who want to voice their opinion do not want to become a part of the controversy. But especially during the month of Ramadan it is important that our actions not cause pain to anyone. Any action by a Muslim that causes any pain to anyone else should be halted!” [snip]</p></blockquote>
<p>That explains a lot &#8211; the widespread belief, that is.  It helps to know why moderate Muslims have been quiet throughout this discussion.  There is more:<br />
<blockquote>Fatah believes the mosque plans are moving forward because they have the support of the American government. “I think they have an official green light either from the State Department or the White House telling them to, ‘Go ahead, you have our full backing,’ and they want to use this Islamic center as a place for diplomacy to the Middle East to demonstrate that the United States is a place where Muslims thrive. But that has backfired because this could have been done in many other ways.”</p>
<p>Jasser said that the building of this mosque is ‘fitna,’ a religious term meaning mischief-making, which is severely frowned upon in Islam. “‘Fitna’ is anything that causes chaos in society,” he said. “This mosque is causing chaos, it is causing ‘fitna’ and that is not the Islamic thing to do … This is ‘fitna’ and ‘fitna’ is wrong.”</p>
<p>Fatah agreed saying that ‘fitna’ is an ethical and moral issue that ought not be taken lightly. “If a step taken by an individual causes disharmony then it is ‘fitna.’ [The mosque] has caused so much pain. There are many mosques already in New York, nobody has ever opposed a mosque, if there is opposition to a mosque on grounds of hatred I would be the first to confront it. But over here it is a matter of sensitivity and there is no residential community even near the community center.” [snip]  (Click <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/18/moderate-muslims-oppose-location-of-cordoba-mosque-%E2%80%94-on-religious-grounds/#ixzz0x3sLZ0SX">here to read</a> the rest.)</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Mischief-making.&#8221;  Yes, that seems to be a good term for what Imam Rauk is doing, along with Obama, I might add.  And yes, the State Department sending Imam Rauf on a tour of the Middle East on our dime, <a href="http://politifi.com/news/US-Spending-16k-for-Raufs-Mideast-Tour-1226657.html">at a cost of $16,000</a>, certainly appears to condone the building the mosque by essentially endorsing Rauf.</p>
<p>But Fatah said it all.  This is not about hatred.  It is about sensitivity (<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/13/fox-news-poll-percent-think-wrong-build-mosque-near-ground-zero/">about which I wrote</a> recently, too).  This decision is causing pain, to a number of people.  <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/poll-63-of-new-yorkers-oppose-mosque-near-site-of-sept-11-attacks-1.308813">Two thirds of New Yorkers </a>oppose building the mosque there.  <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/13/fox-news-poll-percent-think-wrong-build-mosque-near-ground-zero/">Two thirds of Americans</a> oppose building the mosque within two blocks of Ground Zero.  Not because they/we/I oppose building mosques in general, but because we oppose it being built THERE, overlooking where Ground Zero stands, a hallowed ground to New Yorkers, to our nation.  </p>
<p>George W. Bush can say something or not, doesn&#8217;t really matter to me.  As far as I am concerned, the opposition is about sensitivity to those who lost loved ones, and to a nation that suffered a devastating attack there. It is not a matter of &#8220;freedom of religion,&#8221; or &#8220;freedom to practice religion.&#8221;  It is about ceasing the mischief making, an &#8220;ethical and moral issue&#8221; of some weight.  </p>
<p>I think that pretty much says it all, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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