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		<title>[Updated] Chávez Calls Obama an &#8220;Ignoramus&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan&#8217;s Notes: Well!!! It&#8217;s happened, after all the conjecture the past few days speculating if the two men would meet. Today, they shook hands. From the April 18, 2009 Times UK, &#8220;President Obama in historic handshake with Hugo Chavez of Venezuela&#8220;: All the conjecture and today&#8217;s meeting reminded me of Truthteller&#8217;s excellent piece on March [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Susan&#8217;s Notes:</em> Well!!! It&#8217;s happened, after all the conjecture the past few days speculating if the two men would meet.  Today, they shook hands.  From the April 18, 2009 <em>Times UK</em>, &#8220;<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6117242.ece">President Obama in historic handshake with Hugo Chavez of Venezuela</a>&#8220;:</p>
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<p><em>All the conjecture and today&#8217;s meeting reminded me of Truthteller&#8217;s excellent piece on March 22, &#8220;<strong>Chávez Calls Obama an &#8216;Ignoramus&#8217;</strong>,&#8221; which we&#8217;re reprinting for your amusement:<br />
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<em>No Quarter</em> is a loose but raucous chorus of discordant voices.  Some of us are centrists, others are hawkish Democrats, some view themselves as reformers, a few are resolutely independent and others are <img style="margin-left: 10px; margin-right: 10px; margin-top: 4px; margin-bottom: 4px;" border="1" src="http://c0036113.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hugo-chavez-300x225.jpg" alt="hugo-chavez" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="4" width="200" align="right" />unabashed Leftists.  Consider me one of the latter.  In this essay I will not criticize Chávez, and I will not repeat all the threadbare rhetorical bludgeons such as socialist, communist, totalitarian or dictatorial many use to dismiss Chávez and his democratically elected government.  If that is what you are seeking, I recommend you take your dossier and go somewhere else.</p>
<p>But at least consider this before you rush for the exit: the candidate who claimed &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFSUbMWenU">negotiations without preconditions&#8221;</a> would yield amicable and cooperative relations with Iran, Cuba and Venezuela has literally had his Ferragamo shoe shoved squarely in his programmed mouth by Hugo Chávez.  I quote <em><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE52L19G20090322">Reuters</a></em>:<span id="more-18472"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Venezuela&#8217;s President Hugo <strong>Chavez said on Sunday his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama was at best an &#8220;ignoramus&#8221;</strong> for saying the socialist leader exported terrorism and obstructed progress in Latin America.</p>
<p>&#8220;He goes and accuses me of exporting terrorism: <strong>the least I can say is that he&#8217;s a poor ignoramus; he should read and study a little to understand reality</strong>,&#8221; said Chavez, who heads a group of left-wing Latin American leaders opposed to the U.S. influence in the region.</p></blockquote>
<p>Negotiations with Chávez and the Leftist Latin American coalition are now foreclosed as a result of Obama&#8217;s garrulity and glibness.  How else would one expect a country to react if one claims its largest export is terrorism?  Here is one effect:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Chavez said Obama&#8217;s comments had made him change his mind about sending a new ambassador to Washington</strong>, after he withdrew the previous envoy in a dispute last year with the Bush administration in which he also expelled the U.S. ambassador to Venezuela.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama really is the Democratic incarnation of Bush: so much for change, and so much for meaningful negotiations.  Not only are our relations with our neighbors Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Paraguay, El Salvador and Brazil strained; the Mexican government <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/17/business/worldbusiness/17fobriefs-TARIFFSPLACE_BRF.html?ref=business">has raised tariffs on our exports</a>, and we are the subject of much ridicule in the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7956469.stm">British</a> press.  </p>
<p>Venezuela, many of you may recall, is an ally of Iran, and Chávez will visit that and other countries in the Middle East in a few days for a <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/03/22/news/LT-Venezuela-Chavez-Tour.php">summit of leaders from South American and Arab countries</a>.  Iran just rebuffed Obama&#8217;s recent attempt at negotiations with television and teleprompter,  dismissing the staged spectacle as so many &#8220;slogans.&#8221;  Democrats in the US may be duped by Obama&#8217;s empty rhetoric, media simulations and other mass ornaments, but true Leftists are always ones to lift the hood and investigate the true operations of the apparatus power utilizes against them.  Unlike Andrew Sullivan, they are not mesmerized by <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200712/obama/3">brands and &#8220;faces;&#8221;</a> they need a bit more than just images and surfaces.  No wonder why Chávez calls Obama an &#8220;ignoramus.&#8221;  I imagine he thinks that term also applies to all of Obama&#8217;s easily duped supporters.</p>
<p>What can one expect now that Obama has alienated Iran, Venezuela and all their allies in the Middle East and South and Central America?  Oil prices will rise, trade agreements will become increasingly strained, tariffs on exports will probably increase, the price of imports will increase, and all the populist movements in countries wherein impoverished citizens are demanding something that resembles a suitable standard of living will be hostile instead of receptive to the United States&#8217;s particular version of democracy and global unity.  With our economy spiraling into bankruptcy this can only engender more problems abroad, especially if our European allies feel we are exacerbating the distrust many countries have for what can broadly be defined as the West.  Here is <a href="http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=246398">Russia admonishing the US</a> in the wake of Obama&#8217;s failed attempt to engage Iran:</p>
<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said there was no proof that Iran is trying to develop a nuclear weapon and urged the West to respect and reach out to the Islamic republic.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I opposed Obama during the primaries for his lack of an ideological compass and his lack of a bold domestic agenda that would expand social services and thereby provide more Americans with equal access to power and resources, I thought his foreign policy, however vaguely defined, however utterly naïve, however hopelessly optimistic, would enable the United States to marshall the energy generated by all the New Social Movements, populist upheavals and new articulations of ethnic identity occurring throughout the world and funnel it toward a global understanding wherein difference and empathy would be celebrated and cultivated.  Instead, we have more of the strained relations that were aggravated under Bush.  Chávez, who is the face of some Leftist and New Social Movements, views us as antagonists to be shunned, as colonizers to be ousted, as representatives of a late capitalist hegemony that for him and his followers is the latest iteration of enslavement to the West.  Obama promised to change this perception with his &#8220;negotiations without preconditions,&#8221; but instead all he did was reinvigorate it.</p>
<p>That Obama and his staff are reproducing the errors of Bush does not surprise me.  Hopefully Hillary will help Obama out of this latest problem he has created for us.  After all, it takes a Clinton to clean the mess created by a Bush.  And Obama, to be sure, is nothing more than the Democratic Party&#8217;s version of George W. Bush.  Indeed, he is nothing more than an ignoramus.</p>
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		<title>America&#8217;s Cuba Policy is the &#8220;Edsel&#8221; of the US Foreign Policy Portfolio</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Clemons</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Latin America policy uber diva Julia Sweig chaired a news-making gathering at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington yesterday morning. It was excellent, and the CFR has audio of the entire event here. In response to a question I posed to Sweig&#8217;s panel, Obama administration Summit of the Americas point man Jeffrey Davidow fell [...]]]></description>
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<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Latin America policy <em>uber </em>diva <a href="http://www.cfr.org/bios/4230/julia_e_sweig.html">Julia Sweig</a> chaired a news-making <a href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/19077/perspectives_on_the_fifth_summit_of_the_americas.html?breadcrumb=%2Fregion%2F">gathering at the Council on Foreign Relations</a> in Washington yesterday morning.  It was excellent, and the CFR has <a href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/19077/perspectives_on_the_fifth_summit_of_the_americas.html?breadcrumb=%2Fregion%2F">audio of the entire event here</a>.</p>
<p><span id="more-20853"></span><br />
  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">In response to a question I posed to Sweig&#8217;s panel, Obama administration Summit of the Americas point man <a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040606/news_mz1e6qa.html">Jeffrey Davidow</a> fell back on droopy anachronisms while <em>Foreign Policy</em> magazine blogger and best-selling writer and geostrategic interpreter <a href="http://rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com/">David Rothkopf</a> hit the ball out of the park with his statement:</span></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">&#8220;US-Cuba policy is the Edsel of American foreign policy.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="sweig twn.jpg" src="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/sweig%20twn.jpg" width="173" height="263" class="mt-image-right" style="float: right; margin: 0 0 20px 20px;" /></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The full line-up on Sweig&#8217;s panel included <a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040606/news_mz1e6qa.html">Jeffrey Davidow</a>, White House Adviser for the Summit of the Americas and former US Ambassador to Mexico; <a href="http://www.iadb.org/aboutus/iv/ma_moreno.cfm?language=English">Luis Alberto Moreno</a>, President of the Inter-American Development Bank; and <a href="http://www.carnegieendowment.org/experts/index.cfm?fa=expert_view&#038;expert_id=188">David J. Rothkopf</a>, President and CEO, Garten Rothkopf and visiting fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.</span></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="5th Summit of the Americas.jpg" src="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/5th%20Summit%20of%20the%20Americas.jpg" width="128" height="175" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" /></span>The <a href="http://www.fifthsummitoftheamericas.org/">Summit of the Americas</a>, which President Obama is attending, will convene in Trinidad &#038; Tobago from April 17-19.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">After Davidow successfully avoided mentioning the word &#8220;Cuba&#8221; in his primary remarks on the Obama administration&#8217;s game plan for the Summit of the Americas, the former US Ambassador to Mexico finally offered in his penultimate exhale an acknowledgement that &#8220;Cuba might come up&#8221; in the meeting.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">And then he finished stating that other &#8220;flamboyant personalities may &#8216;flambay&#8217;&#8221; &#8212; a clear nod to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">When I had a chance to pose a question, I pressed Davidow pretty hard on what he tried to avoid.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The exchange between Ambassador Davidow, David Rothkopf, and myself follows below.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">What is interesting and disconcerting is that Barack Obama&#8217;s point guy on this upcoming Summit gave the unreconstructed, neoconservative-friendly, ideologically vapid, &#8216;unchastened by five decades of embargo failure&#8217; answer to my question on Cuba.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Has Obama read the brief that his people are preparing for him on Cuba?</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Davidow embraced one of the worst single editorials I have read in years in the <em>Washington Post</em> titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/08/AR2009040803769.html">Coddling Cuba</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">And Rothkopf did his part to say that on US-Cuba policy, the American position has no clothes &#8212; and has become completely illegitimate in the eyes of the world and undermines America&#8217;s own, parochial national interests.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Here is the <a href="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/CFR%20Cuba%20Meeting%20Clemons%20-%20Davidow%20-%20Rothkopf.htm">exchange in full</a> between Sweig, Davidow, Rothkopf, and myself:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<strong>Council on Foreign Relations &#8211; Washington, DC<br />
April 9, 2009</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/19077/perspectives_on_the_fifth_summit_of_the_americas.html?breadcrumb=%2Fregion%2F">Perspectives on the Fifth Summit of the Americas: Cooperation on Development, Energy, and the Environment</a></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Speakers: 	<br />
Jeffrey Davidow, White House Adviser for the Summit of the Americas<br />
Luis Alberto Moreno, President, Inter-American Development Bank<br />
David J. Rothkopf, President and CEO, Garten Rothkopf</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Presider:<br />
Julia E. Sweig, Nelson and David Rockefeller Senior Fellow for Latin America Studies and Director for Latin America Studies, Council on Foreign Relations</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><u>Partial Transcript of Q&#038;A Exchange</u></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="clemons_02.jpg" src="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/clemons_02.jpg" width="240" height="180" class="mt-image-right" style="float: right; margin: 0 0 20px 20px;" /></span><strong><a href="http://newamerica.net/people/steven_clemons">STEVE CLEMONS</a>, Director, American Strategy Program, <a href="http://www.newamerica.net">New America Foundation</a> and Publisher, <a href="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com"><em>The Washington Note</em></a></strong></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">I would like to just start with what David Rothkopf said about the Cuban embargo, &#8220;the beginning of the end&#8221; and ask Ambassador Davidow if you would agree with David&#8217;s perspective on that, or perhaps his assertion.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">It&#8217;s very odd right now when one looks at Senator Richard Lugar and his statements on Cuba that seem to be running politically left of the President.  Brent Scowcroft has said recently that Cuba makes no sense at all as a foreign policy problem.  Russia&#8217;s lack of patronage of Cuba has shown that we can&#8217;t starve Cuba.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">So, part of the question is if Barack Obama is the change agent he said, is Cuba more than Cuba?  Is it a place where the steps you take there are so symbolic that they can have echo effects geostrategically on other parts of the world?  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Or are we leaving this in the same arena where Senator Martinez and others would like to have it which is we are going to create opportunities for a class of ethnic Americans but not look at the broader geostrategic equation?</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><strong>JULIA SWEIG, Nelson and David Rockefeller Senior Fellow for Latin America Studies and Director for Latin America Studies, Council on Foreign Relations</strong></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Ambassador Davidow?  It&#8217;s the &#8220;four letter word&#8221; &#8211; not Peru &#8211; that you are asked to address now.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="jeffery_davidow.jpg" src="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/jeffery_davidow.jpg" width="150" height="199" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" /></span><strong>AMBASSADOR JEFFREY DAVIDOW, White House Adviser for the Summit of the Americas</strong></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">I will try to answer that question. . .</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><strong>JULIA SWEIG, Nelson and David Rockefeller Senior Fellow for Latin America Studies and Director for Latin America Studies, Council on Foreign Relations</strong></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">And other panelists can chime in . . .</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><strong>AMBASSADOR JEFFREY DAVIDOW</strong></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Yes, why don&#8217;t they!  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Look it&#8217;s obviously a highly contentious issue. From my perspective, a few points to make.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">From my perspective, I think it would be unfortunate to lose the opportunity for this hemisphere, at the beginning of the Obama administration, to set down some guidelines and make some progress jointly by getting distracted by the Cuban issue.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Cuba is not an issue for discussion at the Summit if one reads the Summit declaration and the documents on all the past year of negotiation.  However, having said that, and given what we are reading in the press, it is probable that it will come up in some way.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The one point that I would respond to in Steve&#8217;s question specifically is, &#8220;Is Cuba something larger than itself?&#8221; and the answer is &#8216;yes, it is&#8217;. </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">And I think that whatever the reasons have been in the 1960s for initiation of elements of our Cuban policy, the fact is in today&#8217;s Hemisphere, Cuba is the odd man out.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Keep in mind that this meeting in Trinidad is a meeting of 34 democratic states.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">If we had been talking about a meeting of the hemisphere as little as twenty years ago, it would have been cast in a different light.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">There has been a remarkable historical transformation in this hemisphere, and a laudable one, toward democratically elected governments.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">We may have difficulty with some of the governments that have been democratically elected, of course, but this Summit is a reunion of countries and presidents, every one of which has been elected by their populations.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">There is not one government represented at this Summit whose population would willingly accept the kind of restrictions on their civil, political and human rights that are commonplace in Cuba &#8211; and that remain commonplace.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">So, I think as we talk about Cuba and talk about how we as a government deal with it and so forth, let&#8217;s keep in mind that it is something larger than itself, it is in a way a memory of that which existed in the past and a caution of what may exist in the future unless we are totally committed to the question of democracy, human rights and representation of people.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">And lest you think, and I&#8217;m sure some of you do, that I am some sort of ideologue on this, take a look at the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/08/AR2009040803769.html">lead editorial in today&#8217;s <em>Washington Post</em></a>. Maybe you think they are a bunch of ideologues as well, but I think they say it much better than I do.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">So, we have been struggling with Cuba as a nation for close to half a century and there is a real focus on what we should be doing, but to answer the question, it is an important place beyond a small island 90 miles off our shore</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="21_davidroth_lgl.jpg" src="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/21_davidroth_lgl.jpg" width="150" height="225" class="mt-image-right" style="float: right; margin: 0 0 20px 20px;" /></span><strong>DAVID J. ROTHKOPF, President and CEO, Garten Rothkopf</strong></p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">If I may make a couple of brief comments on this- and I am unconstrained by affiliation with the United States government right now &#8211; so perhaps they will be in a slightly different direction.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/08/AR2009040803769.html">editorial</a> in today&#8217;s <em>Washington Post</em> was absurd.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The position of the Florida contingent on this is Paleolithic.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The policy is indefensible on any grounds,</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">The reality is that Cuba may be special, but you have to ask yourself why it&#8217;s therefore easier to travel to or do business with the Stalinist, nuclear weapon-toting North Koreans, or whether it&#8217;s more comfortable for us to be totally economically integrated with the Saudi royal family and their depredations, or if we are concerned about human rights, why are we so integrated with and why are we the sole supporter of a government in Afghanistan that has just made rape in marriage legal and denies women the right to go outside without the approval of their husbands?</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">So this notion that some how democracy alone is the only criteria that we should use in defining the nature of relationship doesn&#8217;t stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever, and the reality is that only one country that has successfully been isolated by this fifty year embargo, and that is the United States of America.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Our [US-Cuba] policy dates back to the Edsel.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">It is the Edsel of American foreign policy.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">[END]</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p>David Rothkopf is absolutely right.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">Barack Obama has given few indications thus far that he is willing to move a five decade failed relationship forward in a meaningful sense &#8212; with the single exception that he may ironically codify &#8220;relaxation&#8221; for a class of ethnic Americans in a way that crudely discriminates against all other Americans.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">We did not open Vietnam by relaxing travel and remittances for Vietnamese-Americans.  </p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">And Obama&#8217;s team &#8212; for all of the ballyhoo about democracy promotion &#8212; is promoting a policy of the United States government that restricts the American right of free travel anywhere.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">I thought that we lived in a real democracy &#8212; and that it was supposed to be Communist governments &#8212; not democracies &#8212; that restricted the travel rights of their citizens.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;">President Obama is a busy man, but he better take a look at the brief that his team is preparing for him &#8212; otherwise he&#8217;ll learn too late that he&#8217;s driving &#8220;an Edsel&#8221; to the Summit of the Americas.</p>
<p>  <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><strong>&#8211; Steve Clemons</strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"><em>Editor&#8217;s Note: Steve Clemons hosts a venerable blog, <a href="http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/">The Washington Note</a>, is Senior Fellow &#038; Director, American Strategy Program, New America Foundation and Director of the Japan Policy Research Institute.</em></p>
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		<title>Bob Menendez Holds His Ground.  Harry Reid Is One Vote Short.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RobWarrior</dc:creator>
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<p>U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid needs 60 votes to close the debate on the $410 billion dollar omnibus spending bill and bring it to a Senate vote.  As of this morning, he is one vote short.  A few moderate Republicans that Reid was counting on have yet to climb on board.  The GOP has some amendments of their own they would like to add to this bill and are trying to leverage their votes to push their proposals through.</p>
<p>Reid may just have to give in to some Republican demands, thanks to a dissenting vote from his own caucus.  Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey, a member of the Democratic leadership is voting no and is downright pissed off.  </p>
<p>His anger has nothing to do with the massive spending by a government already in unfathomable debt or even the 9,000 plus earmarks attached to this drunken Capitol Hill spending spree.  </p>
<p>What infuriates Menendez is that when his legislative aides read through the legislation online, they discovered language that eases restrictions on travel to Cuba and importing Cuban goods.  Menendez would be the first to admit that he holds a minority view when it comes to dealing with the Castro government.  As the son of Cuban immigrants, he has always taken a hard line on Cuban policy.  He undoubtedly knew that with the Obama administration in charge, a change in policy was coming, but the way this was handled really has him steamed.</p>
<p>Shailagh Murphy reports in the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/09/AR2009030903019.html?hpid=topnews">Washington Post</a> that Menendez even held off support on some administration appointees in protest.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The process by which these changes have been forced upon this body is so deeply offensive to me, and so deeply undemocratic, that it puts the omnibus appropriations package in jeopardy, in spite of all the other tremendously important funding that this bill would provide,&#8221; the enraged son of Cuban immigrants said last week on the Senate floor. Menendez even slapped a hold on a pair of Obama nominees to draw attention to the issue. </p>
<p>Treasury officials, working with Reid&#8217;s office, continued yesterday to search for an administrative resolution with Menendez that would ensure a narrow interpretation of the legislative language in order to prevent gaping loopholes from developing. Menendez has pointed out that, had the bill sought significant changes in U.S. policy toward Iran or Venezuela, lawmakers would revolt. &#8220;What&#8217;s the difference with Cuba?&#8221; said Menendez spokesman Afshin Mohamadi. </p></blockquote>
<p>No doubt, that Reid at some point will wrangle that last vote and everyone on the hill will have their pork and eat it too.  He will even find a way to pacify Menendez.  Yet, this little incident is just another reminder of why our government is broken to begin with.  The Cuban issue is important enough to deserve its own debate on the floor.  In typical congressional fashion, it was tacked on to a bill that had nothing to do with the issue.  Whoever, added it to the omnibus spending bill was probably figuring that Menendez and his staff would not actually read the whole thing until it was too late.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing what happens when your legislators have time (or at least their staffs have time) to read what they are voting on.  The Menendez staff probably was going through this bill because lawmakers are starting to feel the heat after the e-mails and phone calls from angry constituents following the stimulus vote.  They never expected Cuban policy to be part of the legislation they were reviewing.</p>
<p>Whether or not, the Cuban policy needs change is not the issue.  The issue is that it shouldn&#8217;t have been in this bill in the first place.  So good for Bob Menendez.  Make Harry go find his vote somewhere else.  It will certainly cost him.</p>
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		<title>Sean Penn&#8217;s Blame America Cruise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Grumpy Guy</dc:creator>
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BTW Have you ever seen Sean Penn in an interview?  If so, have you ever come across anyone who gives a more boring, humorless interview?  i find it hard to think of anyone even coming close. </p>
<p>That said,  I hear his portrayal of Harvey Milk in the movie &#8220;Milk&#8221; is terrific, so I guess he can&#8217;t be all bad.  But I get so tired of these Hollywood pseudo-liberals and their political associates pontificating and running down America. </p>
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		<title>RBO: Team Cuba” — Ayers, Dohrn, just “two political activists” from Obama’s neighborhood, visited Cuba in September 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uppity Woman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cross-Posted from The Real Barack Obama. Sung to the tune of &#8220;The Way We Were&#8221;. ************************************ If the MSM had any difficulty, or even cared about, finding unrepentant domestic terrorist and Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers, or his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, during a week this past September, it was perhaps because they didn’t know where [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cross-Posted from <a href="http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/team-cuba-ayers-dohrn-just-two-political-activists-from-obamas-neighborhood-visited-cuba-in-september-2008/">The Real Barack Obama</a>.</p>
<p>Sung to the tune of &#8220;The Way We Were&#8221;.</p>
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<p>If the MSM had any difficulty, or even cared about, finding unrepentant domestic terrorist and Weather Underground leader Bill Ayers, or his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, during a week this past September, it was perhaps because they didn’t know where to look — or, most likely, weren’t looking.</p>
<p><a href="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/misurell-mitchell-janice-ayers-dohrn-cuba.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-8196" title="misurell-mitchell-janice-ayers-dohrn-cuba" src="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/misurell-mitchell-janice-ayers-dohrn-cuba.jpg?w=74&amp;h=96&#038;h=96" alt="" width="74" height="96" /></a>The radical couple had made a little offshore visit to that four-letter island off Florida’s coast in the company of this lady, Chicago composer, flutist, and performance artist — and <a href="http://www.hydeparkart.org/calendar/2007/11/talkingpoint_janice_misurellmi.php"><span style="color:#557799;">longtime Kenwood resident</span></a>, a.k.a. Obama neighbor, and <a href="http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&amp;lname=Misurell-Mitchell&amp;fname=Janice"><span style="color:#557799;">supporter</span></a> — <a href="http://www.cubeensemble.com/janice.html"><span style="color:#557799;">Janice Misurell-Mitchell</span></a>, Co-Artistic Director of CUBE Contemporary Chamber Ensemble in Chicago since 1989, and wife of University of Chicago English and Art History professor <a href="http://humanities.uchicago.edu/faculty/mitchell/tribune.pdf"><span style="color:#557799;">W.J.T. Mitchell</span></a>, also an <a href="http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?zip=15222&amp;last=MITCHELL&amp;first=TOM"><span style="color:#557799;">Obama supporter</span></a>.</p>
<p>How do we know? Well, thanks to sharp-eyed RBO reader jr, we have the Winter 2008 CUBE Ensemble newsletter that <a href="http://www.cubeensemble.com/test.pdf"><span style="color:#557799;">says so</span></a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayers-dohrn-cuba-09-08-top.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8198" title="ayers-dohrn-cuba-09-08-top" src="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayers-dohrn-cuba-09-08-top.jpg?w=436&amp;h=399&#038;h=399" alt="" width="436" height="399" /></a><br />
<a href="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayers-dohrn-cuba-09-08-bottom.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-8200" title="ayers-dohrn-cuba-09-08-bottom" src="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayers-dohrn-cuba-09-08-bottom.jpg?w=438&amp;h=373&#038;h=373" alt="" width="438" height="373" /></a></p>
<p>So, how did the Ayers-Dohrn “political activists” manage to travel to Cuba? <span id="more-5740"></span>Looks like they may have qualified as “<a href="http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/ascii/cuba.txt"><span style="color:#557799;">full-time professionals</span></a>“:</p>
<blockquote><p>Full-time professionals whose travel transactions are directly related to professional research in their professional areas, provided that their research:</p>
<p>(1) is of a noncommercial academic nature, (2) comprises a full work schedule in Cuba, and (3) has a substantial likelihood of public dissemination.</p>
<p>Full-time professionals whose travel transactions are directly related to attendance at professional meetings or conferences in Cuba organized by an international professional organization, institution, or association that regularly sponsors such meetings or conferences in other countries. The organization, institution, or association sponsoring the meeting or conference may not be headquartered in the United States unless it is specifically licensed to sponsor the meeting. The purpose of the meeting or conference cannot be the promotion of tourism in Cuba or other commercial activities involving Cuba, or to foster production of any biotechnological products.</p>
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<p><strong>Venceremos Brigade-Weatherman</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayers-68-dohrn-69-chi-pd-mugshots.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-8208" title="ayers-68-dohrn-69-chi-pd-mugshots" src="http://therealbarackobama.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ayers-68-dohrn-69-chi-pd-mugshots.jpg?w=205&amp;h=272&#038;h=272" alt="" width="205" height="272" /></a>This must have been a highly nostalgic walk down the international revolutionary “memory lane” for Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.</p>
<p>The following, which comes from an August 1976 <a href="http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf"><span style="color:#557799;">redacted FBI report</span></a>, provides a clear background. When, in July 1969, Vietnamese representatives met with “leading Weatherpeople” (including Dohrn) in Havana, Cuba,</p>
<blockquote><p>… the influence of Vietnamese representatives on the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) leadership became sharply pronounced. At the same time, the example of the Cuban revolution became the guide for the emerging American student revolutionary. With an increasing number of trips to Havana where the youthful revolutionary could learn at first hand how to create revolution, the influence of Cuba on the developing WUO was enormous.</p>
<p>The WUO obtained their revolutionary methodology from the Cubans and Vietnamese and, importantly, put into practice what they had learned from them. [...]</p>
<p>So, when Huynh Van Ba, representative of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), instructed WUO to “look for the person who fights hardest against cops…Don’t look for the one who says the best thing. Look for the one who fights,” the campus base was forgotten and the WUO began to recruit the greasers and assorted oddments who had displayed their hatred of authority in direct combat with police.”</p>
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		<title>Searching for Someone Who Doesn&#8217;t Love Obama In Florida</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the past few weeks, there have been many polls taken, but none seemed to include the Cuban-American Community. The Cuban-American community is a community that lives in exile. Many members of the community have not seen Cuba in 30 years or more. It seems it takes a Canadian reporter, Alan Abel, to go to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past few weeks, there have been many polls taken, but none seemed to include the Cuban-American Community. The Cuban-American community is a community that lives in exile. Many members of the community have not seen Cuba in 30 years or more.</p>
<p>It seems it takes a Canadian reporter, Alan Abel, to go to Florida to talk to the community. He joined them in a banquet hall, in a Cuban Restaurant. He tells his story in an article, <a href="http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=696014">Cuban-Americans sticking by McCain</a>. He sets the scene with descriptions of the meeting place and the number of people  in the hall. Abel took a hand count of the number of McCain supporters vs. the number of Obama supporters, 50 for McCain and 2 for Obama.</p>
<p>Abel puts a name and a face on the patrons in the hall: <span id="more-3937"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>It is a reunion of a group that calls itself the Municipal Council of the City of Santiago de Cuba in Exile. Santiago is where Fidel and Raúl Castro and 160 other upstarts wearing stolen military uniforms began their revolution on el 26 de Julio, 1953. Almost all the insurgents were killed or captured as they attempted to overrun an army base at six o&#8217;clock in the morning. The Castro brothers escaped to the high sierra, only to be surrounded, arrested, tried, convicted, condemned to death, reprieved, imprisoned, pardoned, and freed by the same Cuban government they soon would overthrow.</p></blockquote>
<p>He captures the conversations of the Cuban exiles in their own words. They talk about Raul (Castro). Here is what they said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Did you hear what Raúl said last night in Santiago?&#8221; an architect and contractor named José Gonzáles barks at me. The Cuban leader had chosen the scene of the rebels&#8217; original assault for a major policy address and the annual festival of Socialism or Death.</p>
<p>&#8220;He said, ‘Compañeros, I have bad news for you &#8211; we all must sacrifice even more,&#8217; &#8221; Mr. Gonzáles reports. &#8220;Well, that is exactly the same thing that Obama says!</p>
<p>&#8220;The left only wants to bring you down,&#8221; Mr. Gonzáles announces. &#8220;Obama doesn&#8217;t want to make everybody rich. When he talks about ‘equality,&#8217; he means that everybody should be equally poor, not equally up.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting that the Cuban Americans draw such a stark comparison between Obama and Castro. Obama says he will meet with Raul Castro, unconditionally, in a May 23, 2008 speech. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/3937/searching-for-someone-who-doesnt-love-obama-in-florida/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>This group of exiles wasn&#8217;t finished with Obama yet. This is one man&#8217;s view on Obama&#8217;s hope:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t need that kind of change,&#8221; another man named Felipe Fontanills agrees. &#8220;Fidel Castro achieved that already!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Abel captured more opinions on Obama from these exiles. Again they are very telling words.</p>
<blockquote><p>Señor Fontanills, another successful Miami architect, is just getting started.</p>
<p>&#8220;Read Fidel Castro&#8217;s speeches!&#8221; he commands me. &#8220;He is a much better speaker than Obama. In Germany, Obama was talking about the ‘unity of the world.&#8217; This idea that we&#8217;re all equal, it&#8217;s bull&#8212;t &#8211; you cannot accomplish that.
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<p>Senor Fontanills had this to say about Obama&#8217;s words in Germany, offering a bit of advice even.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Only a religious leader should use those words, because we are all equal in the sight of God. But in every human society, there is a nucleus of leaders who move the society forward. The promise of equality is a false promise. It is manipulation of human opinion!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Mr. Abel asked the people gathered in this hall why they liked McCain and not Obama. It seems our Cuban American friends have a strong opinion on the candidates.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Why do you like John McCain?&#8221; I ask the Cubans.</p>
<p>&#8220;When you have two pieces of</p>
<p>s&#8211;t,&#8221; one of them replies, &#8220;you pick up the one that stinks the least.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In essence they are picking the lesser of two evils. It made me a take pause, I wonder if Hillary was their true choice. But possibly not as one Cuban American woman had this to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;When you come over here, it&#8217;s like the other Cubans force you to be Republican,&#8221; she says. &#8220;It&#8217;s still because of Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was el 17 de Abril, 1961 &#8211; the botched liberation of the island by four boatloads of anti-Castro fighters. The young president John F. Kennedy had denied the invaders American air support on the grounds of &#8220;plausible deniability.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>In the end the talk turned to Obama&#8217;s lack of qualifications. They listed them as &#8220;too inexperienced, weak and young&#8221;. On McCain, they grudgingly accept him as the only other choice.<!--more--></p>
<p>They leave with a question. A question that many have been asking for sometime now.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;For such a large country, can these really be the only two men for president?&#8221; Mr. Gonzáles wonders.
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		<title>Che, Obama, and the Revolutionary Agenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud White</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s really not surprising that some Obama supporters &#8212; with their blinkered, cult-like worship of Obama &#8212; have Ernesto &#8220;Che&#8221; Guevara side-by-side with their icon of Hope and Change. Some attribute the use of Che&#8217;s image in Obama&#8217;s campaign offices to his naive young followers. The only Che they know comes from Hollywood, portrayed by [...]]]></description>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial;">It&#8217;s really not surprising that some Obama supporters &#8212; with their blinkered, cult-like worship of Obama &#8212; have Ernesto &#8220;Che&#8221; Guevara side-by-side with their icon of Hope and Change.</span></p>
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<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://bp2.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF8A68EKGLI/AAAAAAAAAmw/saAvzQ9pIYw/s1600-h/che.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5214887906074302642" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: pointer; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp2.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF8A68EKGLI/AAAAAAAAAmw/saAvzQ9pIYw/s400/che.jpg" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><span style="font-family:arial;">Some attribute the use of Che&#8217;s image in Obama&#8217;s campaign offices to his naive young followers. The </span><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:arial;" >only</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> Che they know comes from Hollywood, portrayed by Gael Garcia Bernal in the 2004 film </span><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:arial;" >The Motorcycle Diaries. </span><span style="font-family:arial;">That </span><span style="font-family:arial;">Che is commercial success, even</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> a </span><a style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535">commodity</a><span style="font-family:arial;">:</span></p>
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<blockquote style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><p>His likeness adorns mugs, hoodies, lighters, key chains, wallets, baseball caps, toques, bandannas, tank tops, club shirts, couture bags, denim jeans, herbal tea</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:arial;">But, as Alvaro Vargas Llosa writes in a </span><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:arial;" >TNR</span><span style="font-family:arial;"> piece titled </span><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic;font-family:arial;" ><a href="http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535">The Killing Machine</a></span><span style="font-family:arial;">, the idolatry of Che is another example of blind hero worship. His description of idolatry fits Obama as well as Che:</span><!--more--></p>
<blockquote style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><p>It is customary for followers of a cult not to know the real life story of their hero, the historical truth&#8230;It is not surprising that Guevara’s contemporary followers, his new post-communist admirers, also delude themselves by clinging to a myth—except the young Argentines who have come up with an expression that rhymes perfectly in Spanish: <i>“Tengo una remera del Che y no sé por qué,”</i> or “I have a Che T-shirt and I don’t know why.”</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:arial;">But Obama supporters have a flag of Che and they do know why. The Obama campaign is top-down to the extreme, going so far as to move the DNC&#8217;s political apparatus to Chicago. </span><a style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/13/the-bolshevikization-of-the-democratic-party/">Charles Lemos</a><span style="font-family:arial;"> writes:</span></p>
<blockquote style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><p>Obama is seeking to personify the Democratic Party. No one person personifies the Democratic Party. This is an internal coup following on the heels of the May 31st Rules and By-Laws Committee that was anything but democratic, the Democratic Party is now a Bolshevik party.</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-family:arial;">And like good Bolsheviks, Obama supporters know how to organize, to penetrate and to overtake an existing organization. As <a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSbolsheviks.htm">George Buchanan</a> reported from Moscow in 1917: &#8220;The Bolsheviks, who form a compact minority, have alone a definite political programme. They are more active and better organized than any other group.&#8221;</p>
<p>The picture above shows Maria Isabel, a Houston-based volunteer for the Obama campaign. The Houston Fox News 26 report of the Che flag caused a minor ripple when it was reported in February. The Obama campaign issued a weak press release targeted at Cuban-Americans, but they did not explain why the Che image is paired with Obama&#8217;s in their headquarters.</p>
<p>Below is another </span><a style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://perezhilton.com/2008-02-14-fill-in-the-blank-117">picture</a><span style="font-family:arial;"> from Houston:</span></p>
<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF8JYLczclI/AAAAAAAAAm4/kZ0OSSPOE3I/s1600-h/houston.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5214897204513436242" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: pointer; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF8JYLczclI/AAAAAAAAAm4/kZ0OSSPOE3I/s400/houston.jpg" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF_HJpRhPmI/AAAAAAAAAnw/d42JQvuD5qw/s1600-h/obama-che_judge.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5215105862030409314" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF_HJpRhPmI/AAAAAAAAAnw/d42JQvuD5qw/s400/obama-che_judge.jpg" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><span style="font-family:arial;">Che is the iconic representation for their revolutionary desires. They see themselves as a &#8220;enlightened&#8221; revolutionaries, people who support direct talks with Raul Castro and </span><span style="font-family:arial;">Ahmadinejad</span><span style="font-family:arial;">. See below Victor&#8217;s page at </span><a style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGv3LW">mybarackobama</a><span style="font-family:arial;">, one of many with pro-Che sentiments:</span></p>
<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" style="FONT-FAMILY: arial" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF8wZtE-PfI/AAAAAAAAAng/EQeOeXOQaU4/s1600-h/che.png"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5214940111673638386" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: pointer; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_etZFOK2xubc/SF8wZtE-PfI/AAAAAAAAAng/EQeOeXOQaU4/s400/che.png" border="0" /></a><br />
<span style="font-family:arial;">Although the images and words of Che are <a href="http://www.babalublog.com/archives/008682.html">ubiquitous</a> in the Obama campaign, Obama himself has silenced his more vocal supporters. Maria Isabel, interviewed on the Spanish language <em>Enrique Y Joe</em> radio show, told the hosts that the Obama <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/06/22/babalu-blog-bombshell-obama-personally-told-campaign-volunteer-shut-ab">campaign:</a></p>
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<p>advised her that she could continue to speak on behalf of the campaign but was &#8220;prohibited&#8221; from talking about the flag because &#8220;what happens, what happens is that is that there are a lot of groups that, well, some people like Che Guevara and other people don&#8217;t like Che Guevara and that if I appear on television talking about the flag it would cause a lot of distractions.&#8221; When asked who told her that, she answers flatly, &#8220;Barack Obama.&#8221;</p>
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<p></strong></span>Why did Obama himself muzzle one of his own volunteers? Could it be that Obama actually knows Che&#8217;s history better than his supporters? Or does Obama understand that much of his success is due to his own branding as a post-communist-Marxist, revolutionary figure who will transform the culture, end war, let the young run the country, and redeem the United States?</p>
<p>Is it because Obama is aware of Che&#8217;s allure? Is Obama familiar with &#8220;<a href="http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535">José Luis Montoya</a>, a Mexican police officer who battles drug crime in Mexicali, [and] wears a Che sweatband because it makes him feel stronger&#8221;?</p>
<p>Whatever the reason for Obama&#8217;s censorship of Isabel, it&#8217;s not because of the crimes and human-rights abuses Che committed; for Obama Che is purely political currency.</p>
<p>In reality, Che Guevara, the man adorning the walls and blogs of Obama supporters, stated his <a href="http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535">belief</a> in</p>
<blockquote><p>hatred as an element of struggle; unbending hatred for the enemy, which pushes a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him into an effective, violent, selective, and cold-blooded killing machine.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this revolutionary &#8220;hero&#8221; was guilty of many, many murders:</p>
<blockquote><p>In January 1957, as his diary from the Sierra Maestra indicates, Guevara shot Eutimio Guerra because he suspected him of passing on information&#8230;Later he shot Aristidio, a peasant who expressed the desire to leave whenever the rebels moved on</p></blockquote>
<p>Once the Batista regime was overthrown, Che was placed in charge of La Cabaña prison. During his brief time there, hundreds, and perhaps as many as two thousand people were murdered at the hands of Che and his <a href="http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1535">henchmen</a>:</p>
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there were about eight hundred prisoners in a space fit for no more than three hundred: former Batista military and police personnel, some journalists, a few businessmen and merchants. The revolutionary tribunal was made of militiamen. Che Guevara presided over the appellate court. He never overturned a sentence&#8230;I pleaded many times with Che on behalf of prisoners. I remember especially the case of Ariel Lima, a young boy. Che did not budge</p></blockquote>
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While Obama may have no scruples about seducing the young with a sanitized version of Che Guevara, the truth about the South American revolutionary reveals that his sentiments were more like Joseph Stalin than Robin Hood. Certainly with degrees from Columbia and Harvard, Obama knows this truth. What does this tell us about him? </p>
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